Proof That Homophobia Is Associated with Homosexual Arousal
source: http://www.politicususa.com/en/proof-that-homophobia-is-associated-with-homosexual-arousal
-
-
- WakeUpPeople
- added this
In a Department of Psychology, University of Georgia, Athens study published on PubMed.gov, the authors come to the conclusion that homophobia is associated with homosexual arousal:
"The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W. A. Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies."
This study is actually years old, and yet never as relevant as it is today as Republican candidates take to the stage to squeal that they will repeal DADT and make gay marriage illegal on a federal level, while ignoring jobs and the economy. It’s enough to make any sane person wonder.
Psychology Today broke it down:
"---
When viewing lesbian sex and straight sex, both the homophobic and the non-homophobic men showed increased penis circumference. For gay male sex, however, only the homophobic men showed heightened penis arousal.
Heterosexual men with the most anti-gay attitudes, when asked, reported not being sexually aroused by gay male sex videos. But, their penises reported otherwise.
---"
Darn penises (or peni as The Donald would no doubt say). The Republican Party flees in terror.
I haven’t seen additional studies on this, and one would want to see these results duplicated, but this study does differentiate from arousal that can result from anger and specifies the arousal measured as sexual. I think we can all agree that the penis doesn’t lie as often as a politician or demagogue con artist raking in millions by appealing to hate.
This theory has been out there since Freud posited it. It is predictable that the Republican Party suffers reliable and consistent public humiliation after their most ardent anti-homosexual puppets get busted in public bathrooms doing the dirty deed.
Many theories in psychology account for this other than the homoerotic enlarged penile circumference. There’s projection that allows the person to distance themselves from what they most fear and despise in themselves. There’s denial leading to all kinds of machinations meant to assist in avoiding facing the truth.
more at link...
-
- groups:
- Community, News and Politics, Culture, Science, 12 more
-
- recommended by:
- WakeUpPeople
-
-
WNYmathGuy
-
Afterthoughts...
So as a child in the 1970's AM radio taught me to hate gay's, then I met a few and they turned out to be just like everybody else.
I'm repulsed by gay's doing PDA way more than Hetero's doing PDA's, and I think that's mostly from a learned response from the culture of business before pleasure. PDA's are like saying pleasure all the time anywhere.
However, I have an instinct to look at women's boobs all the time, it just gives you that caffeine like boost of energy whenever you see a nice pair well framed for viewing; god-bless the tight sweater. So if I get that happy buzz, then the anti-gay folks who are repressing their true emotions are getting the same happy buzz from talking about hating gays and their methods of love making.
Since the gay-haters are getting arousal from the anti-gay rhetoric and such, it would explain why they do it all the time.
- 5 months ago
-
WNYmathGuy
-
-
EmperorThan
-
Think about it though, who would want sexuality to be a 'choice' more than anyone else you can think of?: Someone who is gay and Southern Baptist. Because then they believe it's something they can change if it's a choice. Vehemently opposing all gay rights of any kind to be right with the Lord fearing their own impending 'wrath' at the hands of the 'Good' Christian God.
I mean if you believe in that horseshit it would scare the shit out of you to be on the wrong side right? You would try harder than the apathetic Christians even to be on God's nice list, go to seminary even maybe? Right?
- 6 months ago
-
EmperorThan
-
-
GavinTheMother
-
I thought a careful analysis of GOP anti-gay policy proponents already proved this
- 6 months ago
-
GavinTheMother
-
-
nardo1224
-
Yeah, right. Like they will just go along and accept the study as fact when all their lives they have been denying that it actually exists. Of Course we know about homoarousal in homophobic men. where do you think the phrase
"me thinks thou dost protest too much"
comes from LOL
- 6 months ago
-
nardo1224
-
-
Valorie
-
This explains Perry... and I am not kidding. Many, many people from Texas who have known him forever have said all along he is gay, or at least bisexual. After seeing his speech in New Hampshire, my gay-dar started going off.
- 6 months ago
-
Valorie
-
-
crabbyoldguy
-
coolplanet:
Ok, no wood here, so I'm good.
- 6 months ago
-
crabbyoldguy
-
-
crabbyoldguy
-
-
This article is proof that a man will hump anything that doesn't bite (and somethings that do).
More research required. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZgZBn0Eyisno spam intended
- 6 months ago
-
crabbyoldguy
-
-
WakeUpPeople
-
crabbyoldguy:
What about the non-homophobic group which did not experience arousal at the gay porn?
- 6 months ago
-
WakeUpPeople
-
-
crabbyoldguy
-
WakeUpPeople:
Thus the "more research required" all conditions of titillation must be fully explored which in and of itself is titillating for some. A viscious web.
:)Ponder, for a moment, a career as a sex crime investigator.
- 6 months ago
-
crabbyoldguy
-
-
WakeUpPeople
-
crabbyoldguy:
No thanks. I would get too angry.
- 6 months ago
-
WakeUpPeople
-
-
Anonmaly
-
Alright alright... I'll confess, yes I have a serious attachment to the homosexual community and their well being.... Between watching numerous homosexuals dying of aids, one of whom was so cool I wished (as a small child) my mother would have married him, and just couldn't understand why they would never work out, getting to see him waste away... I loved that man....
Then there is the almost every girlfriend turned out to be a DYKE.... Mixed emotions... I'll try to refrain....
- 6 months ago
-
Anonmaly
-
-
Anonmaly
-
I just get tired of conscientious objectors being called "homophobes", Idk, don't mind homosexuals.... It's the flamers, and for the same reasons I don't like sloppy hookers.... Discretion people, I mean sure put it all out there, hell do a "homo-slut" walk around c u r r e n t for all I care but I really don't need another sodomy ad campaign to live through..... I mean I can't even learn how to interior decorate without learning from a flamer... horrible....
I do think mostly the assertion is correct.... Homophobia is often linked to homo-arousal... Not always, and many times any issue with a homosexual individual even gets turned into "homophobia" issue...
It's like; "I'm not a homophobe, now quit humping my leg..."
I know I hate these homosexual college coaches, and their complicit in child molesting perv wives.... Sorry, those coaches.... Aren't heterosexuals...
So there are those who aren't comfortable around the average homosexual, and it may be slight paranoia, over cautiousness, but some people won't hang out with alcoholics, meat-eaters, weed or cigarette smokers (not fair, not even the same context), I also won't hang out with the average church goer, so oh-f__king well.... So be an exceptional homosexual, without the "wow factor" homo mentality...
- 6 months ago
-
Anonmaly
-
-
MDBard
-
Its a well known fact that repression of natural sexual urges will lead to more aggressive behavior......and dare I say perversion. The men that repress homo erotic feelings will either end up doing something violent to homosexuals or themselves. Or go down the other road and start molesting the alter boys, repression in the clergy has lead to countless acts of perversion over the centuries which is why I think we should go back to the days when Nuns where there to relieve the priests tensions in the name of Jesus. One report isn't going to change the minds of the dementedly religious but its nice to have something I can use to say I was right nanner nanner boo boo with. That being said what have I missed since I've been gone?
- 6 months ago
-
MDBard
-
-
AreOh
-
Interesting.
Well, I've always thought most gov't officials make policy against what they can't be or have, i.e. a person of color, gay or a woman. It's usually a combination of those three when it comes who doesn't benefit from national policy.
- 6 months ago
-
AreOh
-
-
tverdell
-
So all Republicans are gay.
I knew it.
- 6 months ago
-
tverdell
-
-
WakeUpPeople
-
tverdell:
Not necessarily true. Perhaps some of the more outspoken ones, but we have to remember that politicians often play to their base and might not even technically be homophobic in reality.
- 6 months ago
-
WakeUpPeople
-
-
VoyagerFilms
-
tverdell:
Well, yes, many are. This is why sexuality is an issue with their group. Just look at their appearance. They all have a similar look, they all work had to have the same buzz hair cut, they all have a certain 8 year old quality about them indicating the approximate age their psychological development stopped. They look too clean, to sterile. To perfect.
- 6 months ago
-
VoyagerFilms
-
-
MSII
-
VoyagerFilms:
"indicating the approximate age their psychological development stopped."
Well said!, Well said!
- 6 months ago
-
MSII
-
-
GENERALNATTY
-
Proof? So what is this mean't to conclude exactly, that 50 percent of the 308 million americans that are against gay rights are somehow gay themselves?
That their disagreement with homosexuality is that these men are in the closet rather than social cultural and or religious upbringing?
i suppose every gay man who gets a tingle in his pants when a hot female walks by is secretly straight? according to the ambiguous study that doesn't list the amount of men involved in the testing.
A new study says females are turned on by monkey sex i suppose they're more into "cheetah" from tarzan than tarzan himself.
http://seedmagazine.com/content/article/girls_gone_wild_for_monkeys/
- 6 months ago
-
GENERALNATTY
-
-
WakeUpPeople
-
GENERALNATTY:
From the article:
"Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia"
I think you are jumping to conclusions. This study wasn't about religious beliefs and did not discriminate the sample groups in that manner. Why are you assuming that the non-homophobic men in the study weren't religious?
Would religion have played a factor in the arousal of homophobic men at the sight of gay porn?
- 6 months ago
-
WakeUpPeople
-
-
WakeUpPeople
-
GENERALNATTY:
Do you have a study that proves 308 million Americans are against gay rights?
- 6 months ago
-
WakeUpPeople
-
-
TanzaniteDiamonds
-
WakeUpPeople:
Religion can mess up a lot of things.
Some very good questions from different posters on this thread!
- 6 months ago
-
TanzaniteDiamonds
-
-
WakeUpPeople
-
TanzaniteDiamonds:
Agreed that religion can mess people up.
But GENERALNATTY's comment was non-applicable to the article/study.
- First of all, the study *did* list the number of involved in the testing, contrary to NATTY's claim.
- Secondly, NATTY claimed that 308 million Americans (practically the whole US population) are against gay rights - not true.
- Thirdly, NATTY was trying to distract from the results of the study by suggesting that "being religious" and "being in the closet" are mutually exclusive. This study was quite simply about homophobia and its connection to arousal with gay imagery - not how religious any of the participants are (including the non-homophobic group). It would be interesting to have a separate study that might find a connection between homophobia and religiousness, but that was not within the scope of this study.
- Fourthly, NATTY suggested that any gay man who "gets a tingle in his pants" at the sight of a woman would be straight based on this study. This completely ignores the possibility of bisexuality and also ignores the fact that our society doesn't have a problem with heterophobia, even within the gay community.
- Fifthly, I'm not even going to touch NATTY's odd jump to bestiality. This is an overreaching argument against a study about human sexuality and its correlation to homophobia. - 6 months ago
-
WakeUpPeople
-
-
GENERALNATTY
-
WakeUpPeople:
Well i concede i made a mistake, in saying that the study did not list the amount of participants, but you must re-read my comment and concede that you're wrong about me asserting the that 308 million people are against gay rights actually i will pull the quote.
"Proof? So what is this mean't to conclude exactly, that 50 percent of the 308 million americans that are against gay rights are somehow gay themselves?"
There are statistics readily available that around 50 percent of the population is against gay marriage, i don't think i am jumping to conclusions, when the article started off with the word PROOF that is a very strong statement, that suggests a conclusion, you cant start a article with the word PROOF and not be challenged on that basis and then complain i am jumping to conclusions.
The study does not account for factors like religious and cultural upbringing, these are points that had to be made when your article starts off with the word PROOF actually the ariticle started off like this.
"Breaking news! All that you thought you knew about homophobic people turns out to be true. You’ve been saying it for years, and it turns out that you were right. It’s scientific and stuff, too. Yes, imagine the fun you can have citing this study that proves that homophobia is associated with homosexual arousal to back up your claims that those who hate homosexuals are actually suppressing homoerotic urges. And this is bigger than Freud and his misogynistic, creepy theories."
Your assertion that i did not make room for the possibility for bi-sexuality is irrelevant because people who describe themselves as completely gay, have had many sexual relations with the opposite sex including having children, these the confessions of people who again describe themselves as completely gay, not bi-sexual, so your point about bi-sexuality in this context is moot.
The point of me bringing up the women and monkeys study, is to show that these kind of studies cannot really be proof of anything.
- 6 months ago
-
GENERALNATTY
-
-
WakeUpPeople
-
GENERALNATTY:
Your word choice wasn't very clear. You said 50% of the *308M that are against gay rights* are gay. I would have understood your intent if you said 'the 50% that are against gay rights of the 308M'. Your argument of religion has no bearing on this study. Whether religious or not, the homophobic men were aroused. Whatever reasoning they have for fearing homosexuals (religion, culture, self-loathing), they responded physically to the gay porn whereas the non-homophobic men did not.
- 6 months ago
-
WakeUpPeople
-
-
GENERALNATTY
-
WakeUpPeople:
It does have a bearing on the article you posted which is what im responding too(if it was just the study you had posted this would be a different conversation all together) that exclaims that this is proof that people who are against homosexuals are suppressing homoerotic urges, in 1996 when gallup ran a poll on gay marriage only 27 percent of people in america were for gay marriage and 68 percent against. Many of the people on this site were against it or thought it wrong at some point of their lives and changed their attitudes as time progressed i'm quite certain if you asked any of them if homo erotic urges were the reason for them being against it they would tell you no. The national gay and lesbian task force estimates lgbt people make up between 3-8 percent of the american public, between the 21 percent of change of opinion in favor of gay rights over 15 years vs the idea that homosexual urges are the source of the anti-gay sentiment 100 percent of the time as this study asserts, (as it does not give information that any of the homophobic men tested did not become aroused by homoerotic behavior) then it would be logical to assume that this idea would coincide with a significant increase in bi-sexual behavior amongst men, which simply has not shown itself to be true.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/williams-institute-report-reveals-million-gay-bisex...
- 6 months ago
-
GENERALNATTY
-
-
WakeUpPeople
-
GENERALNATTY:
From the article: "Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies."
Your quote: "Many of the people on this site were against it or thought it wrong at some point of their lives and changed their attitudes as time progressed i'm quite certain if you asked any of them if homo erotic urges were the reason for them being against it they would tell you no."
I guess we can agree on that. They would tell me no.
Your quote: "...then it would be logical to assume that this idea would coincide with a significant increase in bi-sexual behavior amongst men, which simply has not shown itself to be true."
Why is it logical to assume this? If gay rights is becoming more acceptable by society, why would it mean that we have to have more bisexual people? It could just mean that more people want equal rights for everyone. And you may also want to consider the info in the link you provided me:
"---
Bisexuals Are Most Closeted GroupThe 3.5 percent of those who identify as LGB may or may not include those who are "closeted," according to Gates.
"We actually did commission data within the survey and asked about to what degree they were closeted," Gates said, "and 13 percent who identified as LGB had never told anyone about it."
---" - 6 months ago
-
WakeUpPeople
-
-
noxidereus
-
Well, Hitler was a Jew. He did horrible things to the Jewish people who reflected what Hitler hated about himself. It's the same sort of thing with homophobes.
Think about it. What is the use of hating another person for doing something or being a certain way that has absolutely no effect on your life whatsoever? What motivates hate crimes against homosexuals? Why waste one's time and effort to gay-bash? Why risk going to jail to beat someone up for being different from you? It is highly irrational.
The reason has to do with one fearing undesirable reflections of oneself. Society tells us that being gay is wrong/evil and we should be embarrassed if we ever appear to be "gay" about anything. One who feels somewhat gay on the inside, but keeps it bottled up because society or "god" tells them to, hates to see openly gay people reflecting a trait that they wrongly hate about themselves. This can certainly be true without one even realizing it.
- 6 months ago
-
noxidereus
-
-
WakeUpPeople
-
noxidereus:
Well stated and very true.
- 6 months ago
-
WakeUpPeople
-
-
jamfan1921
-
I always thought the name for it was internalized homophobia, a gay persons fear of being gay.
- 6 months ago
-
jamfan1921
-
-
Leen61
-
-
I'm glad the proof is out there. Knew this all along. This explains Rick "man on dog" Santorum. This was talked about tonight on COUNTDOWN.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5eQpTCjNQI&feature=player_detailpage - 6 months ago
-
Leen61
-
-
MSII
-
Leen61:
As a Pennsylvanian I want to say those of us here in PA. who are sane are deeply disgusted and embarrassed by Santorum, he does -NOT- reflect sane Pennsylvanians, who we are, or what we believe. He's just a typical wrong-winger nutjob...
- 6 months ago
-
MSII
-
-
Leen61
-
MSII:
I hear you, MSII. It's a shame that Santorum is a representative of your state. Just like I'm disgusted and embarrassed that Scott Walker is the governor of WI but he doesn't reflect the sane amongst us, either.
- 6 months ago
-
Leen61
-
-
Johnny_Los_Angeles
-
of course why otherwise would any care?
- 6 months ago
-
Johnny_Los_Angeles
-
-
remanns
-
I promise to increase my awareness of my penis circumference. Most certainly.
- 6 months ago
-
remanns
-
-
eden49
-
remanns:
...okay...
- 6 months ago
-
eden49
-
-
remanns
-
eden49:
eden ! welcome to the ,...uhm,..."upover" internet from your perspective !
- 6 months ago
-
remanns
-
-
eden49
-
remanns:
...before I throw myself into a full on rant, explain "upover" ...is it, U-pover, UP-over, UPO-ver, or that oldie but a goodie, UPOV-er...xo
- 6 months ago
-
eden49
-
-
remanns
-
It all boils down to "When I think of ME,.....I touch myself" .
I think.
I think,....therefore I jism . ( copyrighted,...don't even THINK about touching that. )
- 6 months ago
-
remanns
-
-
COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
-
remanns:
LMAO! originally brilliant!
- 6 months ago
-
COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
-
-
Anonmaly
-
So it really has nothing to do with multiple homosexuals sexually harassing heterosexuals in some instances?
Cute, if I wanted my prostate massaged my girl would probably do it (I mean I toss her salad and all)......
Cute assertion (on authors part) but things are never so cut and dry.....
Let me guess every emotion or reaction is based on either fear or love.....?
- 6 months ago
-
Anonmaly
-
-
remanns
-
Anonmaly:
You sir,....have an ax to grind,.....I'm not sure against precisely WHAT,......but I do like the cut of you ax . . . .
- 6 months ago
-
remanns
-
-
MSII
-
Anonmaly:
"homosexuals sexually harassing heterosexuals", now that made me laugh, like that is going on, err... NO, the harassment is most definitely the other way around, always has been, the -idea- for even a fleeting instance that it's otherwise is pure bullshit.
- 6 months ago
-
MSII
-
-
Incredulous
-
"But, their penises reported otherwise."
LOL, LOL, LOL!
Anti-Oedipus (1972) is a book by the French philosopher Gilles Deleuze and the psychoanalyst Félix Guattari. It is the first volume of Capitalism and Schizophrenia, the second being A Thousand Plateaus (1980).
Anti-Oedipus analyses the relationship of desire to reality and to capitalist society in particular; it addresses questions of human psychology, economics, society, and history. The book is divided into four sections. The first outlines Deleuze and Guattari's "materialist psychiatry" and its modelling of the unconscious in its relationship with society and its productive processes; in this section they introduce their concept of "desiring-production" (which inter-relates "desiring machines" and a "body without organs"). The second section offers a critique of Sigmund Freud's psychoanalysis that focuses on its theory of the Oedipus complex. The third section re-writes Karl Marx's materialist account of the history of society's modes of production as a development through "primitive," "despotic," and "capitalist" societies and details their different organisations of production, "inscription" (which corresponds to Marx's "distribution" and "exchange"), and consumption. In the final section, the authors develop a critical practice that they call "schizoanalysis."
The book draws on and criticises the ideas of a vast range of thinkers; as well as Marx and Freud, these include Althusser, Foucault, Lacan, Reich, Laing, Cooper, Jung, Klein, Oury, Jaspers, Hjelmslev, Peirce, Bateson, Clastres, Lévi-Strauss, Klossowski, Lyotard, Monod, Mumford, Turner, Wittfogel, Fourier, Kant, and Spinoza. Deleuze and Guattari also draw on a wide range of creative writers and artists during the course of their argument; these include Artaud, Beckett, Büchner, Butler, Kafka, Kerouac, Kleist, Lawrence, Miller, Proust, Schreber, and Turner. Foremost among its influences, however, stands Nietzsche—Anti-Oedipus may be considered a kind of sequel to The Antichrist.
Some of Guattari's diary entries, correspondence with Deleuze, and notes on the development of the book were published posthumously as The Anti-Oedipus Papers (2004).
- 6 months ago
-
Incredulous
-
-
remanns
-
Incredulous:
Oh,..........you. . . .
- 6 months ago
-
remanns
-
-
COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
-
Incredulous:
OMG! w'stp?
- 6 months ago
-
COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
-
-
Milieu
-
Incredulous:
You had me until you pulled in Foucault, Kerouac, and Nietzsche.
- 6 months ago
-
Milieu
-
-
eden49
-
Incredulous:
...I'm not quite comprehending Anti-Oedipus being considered a kind of sequel to The Antichrist...I'll get back to ya...(matey)...
- 6 months ago
-
eden49
-
-
Incredulous
-
Milieu:
I didn't pull them in....they are part of the Deleuze and Guattari critique, and part of the larger landscape of literary, economic and psychoanalytic theory and practice. The delightfully intriguing aspect of Deleuze and Guattari's work in Capitalism and Schizophrenia is that no one escapes the magnifying glass, neither the rebellious, nor the conformist, and in many ways, their work indicts capitalism itself as the necessary underpinning of the schizophrenic behavior that passes for normal.....
- 6 months ago
-
Incredulous
