The Obama Administration Will Not Veto Defense Authorization Bill!

Thanks for this info and your comment, Day0.

That's correct, Common.

If the SCOTUS makes their decisions based on prior constitutional law, there is no way they can let this law stand. And if they do, we know who the real "activist" judges that the right wing loves to talk about are.

Right on, Jan!!!!

I called all my reps before this thing passed. It doesn't do anything. Your government is bought and paid for in full. If you were contributing 50k to his campaign he may listen, or if you Rep is Ron Paul and actually believes in the constitution then you are in luck ;) other than that you are S.O.L. Ron Paul is the only hope for American Liberty!

You're correct, zoomy. Here's the link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta

"I am so sick of this whole A-RAB terrorist lie as an excuse to dismantle everything that we've created over the last 235 years IT'S ALL A LIE, PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERY BIT OF IT. FROM 9/11 TO NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A MONSTROUS LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

I agree, zoomy!

Thanks for affirming that for me Leena.

You're welcome, zoomy.

Sorry, no thanks. I care about clean air and water.

No thanks! I need my social secuity just to survive.

He promised he would not touch social security or medicare. Jan: Why do you feel the Federal government is better positioned to enforce regulations on clean air, water ect than the state governments are? Is the Federal government actually doing that good of a job in its current state riddled with corruption and revolving door politics? Would we not be more capable to hold a state agency accountable for corruption and failure to maintain standards? Would not state agencies be more difficult to buy out as special interest would have to buy them 50 times over instead of just once? Is the Federal government as knowledgeable about what your states individual needs and requirements are? Just think about it for a second, we could still do everything we need to do (I am all for standards for clean air, water ect) just at the state level just like: The Fire department, police, ambulances, libraries ect. If there has been one thing proven it is that the Federal government is not very efficient at anything save starting unsustainable wars and curtailing personal liberty.

Strict property rights would protect air and water think about it. Who do you think a corporation would rather deal with the EPA or a million really pissed off people... Ill give you a hint it's the EPA. Ron Paul 2012!

Do you really believe that an average Joe could go toe to toe with the likes of a BP or Occidental in court? I assure you that a strict property rights approach would be buried in years of discovery orders and motions. By the time you ever sat at the plaintiff's table, you'd be years older and tens of thousands of dollars in debt.

Then you made some VERY poor life choices. I would start looking for an alternative because unless you are in your 80's chances are SS will run out before you do.

Yeah I absolutely do think that an average joe could go toe to toe with the likes of a corporation in court, especially with a good case like harm to their property, and especially if corporate personhood is repealed.

At my age there is only one choice,DEATH! But thanks for being such a compassionate conservative. Talk about an oxymoron.
Now if you'll excuse me. I'll go off someplace and die quietly so as not to inconvience those Republicans who all made better life choices than me.
I was a fan of Ron Pauls' at one time. Thanks for showing me that walking away from him was one of my few good choices, If you're an example of his followers, then I know I made the right choice.

So true, zoomy. Voted up!

Absolutely. This extends to all subsequent presidents, and is very dangerous to the continuation of freedom in this country.

Obama may not be a viable option but neither are any of the other candidates. They are all, with the exception of Ron Paul, in the back pocket of some corporate overseer leading back to the banking industry. The system of checks and balances is completely broken. The three branches of government no longer act as watch dogs keeping each other in check; they follow each other, marching to the same corporate drumbeat. This legislation is just another goose step toward the end of the Constitutionally governed United States with a complete oligarchy to follow.

Thanks for the link, tlsmith63. I understand where you're coming from.

Thanks for the list, maasanova.

Thanks for posting that, Bill.

I totally agree with you, Bob. This will be the result from this decision. It is very sad and very bad news for us.

I like that... the "nothing to see here, folks, just move along now" approach to getting people's attention; guaranteed to get the base riled up. And while we're here, maybe we should take a closer look at all the other provisions salted throughout NDAA.

True, it is "Much Ado About Nothing" only in the sense that procedurally nothing will change in law enforcement. But add the context of the Occupy movement and its kettlings and beatings and gassings and arrests and denial of access to journalists, and suddenly it looks like much ado about something important.

We do... the only reason to not care to know is if you don't care what happens. Whoever ignorance was bliss for, they never made things happen.

Perfect - love it! TTFN - I promise I'll be back more often ;)

I shall expect nothing less!

'Til the morrow! Or the day after....so long as you don't tarry too long, Terri! (I made a rhyme!)

LOL

+^d

Take care!

The man's a poet! ;)

Absolutely, dinm76.

At this point, all I can do at the next election is vote for progressives for congress and leave the presidentcial box blank.
How long before they declare (Words = Deeds) and we are all rounded up for posting comments on this site?
Or how about the time comes when you go to board a plane and your name is suddenly on a no-fly list because of posting comments!
I"M SERIOUS!

I know you're serious and it's not far fetched. When it comes to the 2012 election, I will vote to get Walker out of office, that is if we are successful at recalling Walker....which I hope we are. As for the presidential election.....I'm at a loss. As my husband says, it's a dog and pony show.

Seriously right back atcha...if we can't get a Republican supporter to follow suit and not vote for the presidency then we'll have to fear being run by an insane individual who will win the election under the guise of being a Patriot yet will be traitorous to the working class and beholding to his, or her, masters, i.e., the wealthy and big business.

It won't be pretty, either.

Goodbye Social Security. Goodbye MediCare. Goodbye to the middle class, too!

We can always hope Newt can find us a job cleaning restrooms and mopping floors...oh, wait, if one is older than 16 that may not be an option!

then we'll have to fear being run by an insane individual who will win the election under the guise of being a Patriot yet will be traitorous to the working class and beholding to his, or her, masters, i.e., the wealthy and big business.

So...you are discribing Obama... right?

Thanks for posting, CarlosBobthe3rd. Very scary. I'm glad Cenk let's us know what is going on and how wrong it is. They are killing US citizens abroad, and now they will kill us here.

I worked as a Volunteer Coordinator for the Obama campaign in St. Louis. I spent hours going door to door, making phone calls, attending debates, house parties, etc., to ensure his election. I am by no definition a "hater" with an ax to grind. I even think many of his policies have been steps in the right direction, and he was certainly better than the alternative.

But no sane or honest person can look at this betrayal of clear and fundamental human rights as excusable. It is blatantly unconstitutional and unjustifiable in any context. Worse, it's unneeded and probably counter-productive to counter-terrorism measures (just ask the many experts who have come out in opposition to this measure). So dismissing this criticism of the President as partisan ranting is factually wrong, at the very least. I'm afraid it is also indicative of someone who puts loyalty to party before the truth. I hope that is not the case.

Wow just amazing. I think its safe to assume Obama could do anything and you would be right there to support him. What other powers would you like Obama to have, you know the ones he needs to be president? Sounds like you are both in love and in line.

Thinking like that is why things will never change. If most people still actually fall for the Democrats vs Republicans act, and we don't realize both parties are in the pockets of the elite then I don't see how anything is ever going to get any better. Do you really sincerely honestly think that Obama has the American people's best interest in mind? Seriously? So expanding the patriot act, assassinating American citizens without due process, indefinite detention without due process, cracking down on whistleblowers, lining his administration with wall-street cronies, arming the Egyption military crackdown, internet censorship, cracking down on medical marijuana, shielding the Bush administration's war crimes and committing his own, pushing for cuts to social security and medicare, etc, etc, etc -- these are all really good for the people, right? I hardly think so.

The reason why you are still blindly supporting Obama is because you either ignore all the legitimate criticism against him, you don't understand what is really going on. I mean seriously, your argument against criticism is seriously going to be just calling people 'haters'? That shows that you don't really even know or understand what the criticism is actually about. Obama is not very distinct from George W Bush. I can't tell the difference at all, but all you need to see is the (D) next to his name and you're in love.

You have blind faith, the reality is quite different.

Obama is a huge disappointment. These are not the changes I voted for.

a good reply

because those republicans will do what? Unconstitutionaly imprison without trial and hold/torture indefinately any Amercan they deem an enemy? god damn do you have on blinders or something? or do you just like being a complete dope and advertizing it to the world? you and this corupt group in power can make your lists we patriots will be making our own. If you realy think obama has your intrests at heart then I have a concentration camp to sell you and a tatoo just for you and your family.

Thinking the way that you think contributed to the George W Bush Presidency. Al Gore would have received more votes if it hadn't been for those Americans who divided the vote by supporting a Third Party candidate who had no chance of being elected. Ralph Nader was the spoiler in 2000/2004.
I am very disappointed in many of the president's decisions, most of the ones you have posted including this one, however I know that he is a much better choice than his opponents.
I want to clarify my opinion on so-called haters, I don't mean that everybody that disagrees with President Obama is a hater, because they are not. Only those people who hate him because he is Black and want to see him fail, never give him credit for anything.
If you can't tell the difference between President Obama, and George Bush then you are blinded by the magnitude of lies/propaganda/misinformation circulated about him...

showing off that nievity again nanac? Bush and the republican party stole that election with the help of a completely unprecidented and unprecidental decision in GW Bushes favor. all your coment proves is your unwaivering ignorance to the true coruption plauging (in no small part to appologists like yourself) this nation and its highest offices of power. Thanks by the way the rest of us just love bleeding and dieing to restore what you all have squandered with your complaicency.

You are correct about one thing! I have more faith in President Obama's concern for the 99% than any of the politicians who want to take his place. Their first/last priority is the top 1%.

Calm down! There is no reason for name calling. Until a better candidate for president comes along, I will be supporting President Obama. Republicans don't want to support their own group of grossly inept/delusional/unscrupulous politicians.
Maybe you have an ideal candidate, I am curious to know your choice for president.

Obama has no concern for 99%. Nearly 4 years later Obama following Bush's footsteps.

I didn't mean to suggest that everyone who critiqued President Obama on his decisions are haters, because that is not the case. You and anyone else have a legitimate right to voice your opinion.
I am not in agreement with this decision, nor do I agree with all of the president's decisions. I will not give up on him at this point, because I know that under different circumstances, he could be more effective.
My loyalty is with the party that represents the 99%. So far the Progressive/Democrats is the only political party who advocates on their behalf. Both parties are bad, but the Tea-Bagger/GOP is completely controlled by Grover Norquist/Koch brothers/ALEC.
I am aware of the fact that a third party is severely needed, I came to that conclusion decades ago, however as long as we have a two party system, I will support President Obama!

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Obama doesn't have to sign it. Democrats helped pass it.

You hit the nail on the head, Bill. When it's all said and done, both parties are on the same side when it comes to accumulating power to use against the American people. We are in deep shit and sinking.

Good god man stop and re-read your post. You are either being sarcastic or have lost your mind.

I take it your not being sarcastic in these post

I'm glad Cenk is on Current TV as well. Nice to see you again, dems!

I agree, zootz. We spend way too much on defense.