ACLU deputy legal director: NDAA ‘still awful’ despite changes
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Wednesday, December 14, 2011
Jameel Jaffer, deputy legal director at ACLU, said Wednesday night that the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) of 2012 was still highly problematic despite changes to the bill.
“It was an awful bill before and it is an awful bill now,” he told MSNBC host Rachel Maddow.
Provisions within the legislation would authorize the U.S. to indefinitely detain suspected terrorists anywhere in the world without charge or trial, and require them to be held in military custody. Civil liberties advocates and others were furious at lawmakers for the broad scope of the provision, which could have allowed U.S. citizens on U.S. soil to be indefinitely detained without trial.
Obama threatened to veto the entire bill because of the provisions, which he said were “inconsistent with the fundamental American principle that our military does not patrol our streets.”
The latest version of the bill, drafted by the House-Senate conference committee, kept the provisions. But it exempted U.S. citizens from the requirement for terror suspects to be held in military custody and included language stating that the bill did not extend new authority to detain U.S. citizens.
Due to the changes, the White House announced Wednesday it would not veto the bill.
“It is a bill that would make permanent as an American law this fixture of worldwide indefinite detention without charge or trial, it is a bill that would further militarize counter-terrorism policy, it is a bill that would make it harder to close Guantanamo,” Jaffer added.
“It has all the problems that we identified earlier and it is really quite astonishing and disappointing that President Obama is withdrawing his veto threat.”
“This theory that we have indefinite detention authority, the power to detain people picked up anywhere in the world without charge or trial until the end of hostilities — whatever that means — that is a power that many other countries are uncomfortable with and that many people in the United States are uncomfortable with,” he added.
“Even the Obama administration we thought was uncomfortable with it, until today, but apparently President Obama was willing to go to bat for presidential power.”
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"BO has some nerve thinking he will be elected for another 4 years, or is he now a Dictator, you decide!!!"
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Just as a blind squirrel can find an acorn once in a while the American Criminal Lawyers Union is right on this one. Doesn't happen often folks.
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alexandrek:
This is pretty good. Most of McCarthys allegations were correct.
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You wanted Democrats, now you've got them. Glad I'm old and won't see the results of this.
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cabinettags:
I am Envious... =(
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COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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The People have no government. The corporate coup against the United States has merely instituted an illegitimate facsimile of what would have been the People's government.
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COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM:
Bought and Paid for, elected and even paid for by the Tax Payers... =)
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nardo1224
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Why can't we do like Rethuglicans and train em up young. I figure the Democrat Party has enough money to school a few youngsters in the art of politics and embed them with progressive dogma so that we actually have someone to vote for!
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Leen61
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Excellent! Saw this last night. You bet NDAA is still awful! Obama wanted MORE power. He got it. If something happens to this country......as the old saying goes......"What goes around, comes around."
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Leen61:
I am guessing, if Anything happens, it would be at their hands, ie, they passed this for a reason...
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KB723:
Sure they did, KB.
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Leen61
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Leen61:
Can you imagine what the next 6 months may hold for us??? I am by the way giving the lee way of 2 months give or take... I really cannot find any other thoughts that make these actions seem Reasonable... =(
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KB723:
The powers that be, which know no party, will always win out.
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Leen61:
I have been thinking about that Leen, I wonder what part of that 1% actually live here in the states... I asked Kenny and he was just as curious...
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KB723:
We've been controlled by foreign influences increasing over the past 2 decades.
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Leen61:
Sure, I can agree, I was however looking at the 1%... Who are these people and do all of them reside in the USA... Odd how they can know soo much about us and we know so little of them...
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KB723:
Think Bilderberg Group. Nobody really knows who makes up their roster but they certainly call the shots around the world.
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Leen61:
Yes Bilderberg... =(
Happy TGIFF Leen... =) - 5 months ago
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KB723:
Happy TGIFF KB! :)
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nardo1224
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No flippin kidding. and just how long did it take him to figure that piece of news. I knew Barak Obamination was going to sign it since he had a say in commissioning it.
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nardo1224:
Now the question is... Who to vote for in 2012...
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KB723:
I will go third party. No choice.
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WakeUpPeople:
Me too . If they steal the election , this time , we will be ready .
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WakeUpPeople:
Anyone in particular??? No one from the democratic party has yet arisen as a challenger, there are very few that may that I would support...
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ACLU deputy legal director: NDAA ‘still awful’ despite changes
"BO has some nerve thinking he will be elected for another 4 years, or is he now a Dictator, you decide!!!"
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KB723:
Well, look at the reptard choices we have ... and the total lack of choice we have on the democratic side ... it appears no one is willing to take him on, and THAT makes him look more like a dictator on a daily basis.
Pwr 2 the 99%! Dismember the 1% and their political WHORES!
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wolfess:
I have always thought this was all theater, and it was, but that's just my opinion... I am sorry I did not see this reply earlier... =(
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KB723:
Mike and I went out to supper with friends 2nite and this is the first chance I've had to check so you had perfect timing :-)!! And what I meant, in my roundabout way, was that you were right about the dictator thing -- the total LACK of choice leads to dictatorship, and the sad thing is I really don't want to even consider that is what's actually going on, but by now I'm also afraid to not have a 'plan B' :-(.
Pwr 2 the 99%! Dismember the 1% and their political WHORES! - 5 months ago
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wolfess:
Yup, I wonder what a plan B would entail... I wonder what my republican coworkers think about this news??? Happy TGIFF... =)
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