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Recipe for Revolution! Will the new poverty numbers finally be a wake-up call?

source: http://www.uscatholic.org/blog/2011/09/will-new-poverty-numbers-finally-be-wake-call

Seems too me the numbers are adding up rather quickly! The Fascist state we are quickly becoming, has almost all the ingredients necessary.

State (Corporate) Controlled Media
Representatives that don't represent
20% or higher unemployment
A wealthy 1% controlling everything
No hope for upward mobility by our children
New laws for detaining regular Americans
An oppressive police force
Out of touch higher oligarchy
Justice system that is clearly different at two separate levels
An economy that has been on the verge of total collapse for a decade
Etc, etc, etc


Wednesday, September 14, 2011
By Scott Alessi


Anyone who follows the news is well aware of the nation's current economic troubles and high unemployment rates, but yesterday's report from the U.S. Census Bureau showed just how broad the scope of the problem really is.

The numbers are staggering: 46.2 million Americans, or 15.1 percent of the population, are living below the poverty line. Those numbers have been steadily climbing every year, and the total number of people in poverty is now the highest it has been in the entire 52-year period that the Census Bureau has tracked these numbers.

And while those numbers are making headlines, you have to read a little bit further to get to the even more disturbing reality--poverty is defined as an income of $22,314 for a family of four, or just over $11,000 for a single person. Stop for a moment and think about those numbers. Think about your own income, and what limitations you think it places on you. And think of how many more Americans are probably making enough money to be just above the defined level of poverty but who still can barely afford basic necessities like food, rent, and utilities.

In a statement released today in response to the Census report, Father Larry Snyder, president of Catholic Charities USA, said what many were probably thinking--that these numbers need to be a wake-up call to our country's leaders. "Today's report is further evidence that the United States of America needs comprehensive reform of the nation's service delivery system," Snyder writes. "This reform should be focused on innovative solutions to the individual needs of the now 46.2 millions of Americans living in poverty...

"Catholic Charities USA is hopeful that today's release of the U.S. Census Bureau's report will help to draw the attention of American policymakers to the moral obligation we have as a country to address this growing crisis."

But the truth is, there was plenty of evidence that major changes were needed long before this report was released. Last year's poverty statistics were only slighly lower, umemployment has been a major concern, and the realities of the recession and the damage it is doing to the lives of millions have been clearly visible.

Yet on the same day the Census report was released, policymakers were arguing among party lines over how to create jobs and stimulate the economy. Republicans took exception to the president's idea of tax increases for individuals earning more than $200,000 a year to cover the cost of his job plan. In other words, it was business as usual in Washington.

The argument over taxing the wealthiest in society to help the poorest is one that will likely never end. Nonetheless, it is worth stopping again to think about the numbers, and what it means for someone to live on more than $200,000 a year.For those closer to the $11,000 level, it would be hard to imagine how one could even spend a six figure income. For the rest of us--those living somewhere in between the two extremes on the wealth spectrum--we need to seriously ask ourselves which group needs us to be looking out for their best interests.
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82 comments // Recipe for Revolution! Will the new poverty numbers finally be a wake-up call?

  • Metal4freedom
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      Metal4freedom  
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    • We all ...have ' it' in us to change this hell... we live in. We just need to rise up pray and unite our Love in each other and in our mother earth. I 'm... that I'm... I'm a healer to the brain washed minds I'm the change . Free your mind and the rest will follow. I'm ...the PUSH that makes you move...(slipknot) Peace and Love ........

    • 5 months ago
  • SoCalFramer
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      SoCalFramer  

    • We have elections, they are far from perfect. The two parties are completly corupt. Not all the people in those parties are bad but enough to keep the system broken for us. I hope the masses find a way to back some good canidates publicly and put them to work. My other hope is we remove the bastards that are set on forking us and at the very least get rid of the radical right. Open revolution will not help unless it is non violent. I hope we make the change and send the bastards back to thier homes and out of the people's house.

    • 5 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
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      Buckeye_Bill  
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    • “Children often began their careers as chimney sweeps at 4 or 5, thus fulfilling Gingrich’s hopes that they would have a work ethic instilled in them at the earliest feasible moment.”

      These are words are from an Op/Ed written by Alexander Cockburn of NationofChange, today, Friday December 16, 2011.

      To read the entire article please feel free to click on the link below. It's a well written piece worthy of the couple of minutes it takes to read it.

      http://www.nationofchange.org/suffer-little-children-1324044643

    • 5 months ago
  • Mark701
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      Mark701  

    • Each time the GOP stymies an attempt to help the poor they drive another nail into their own coffin. How long do they think people will accept their bullshit before open revolution has the GOP fleeing the country to save their pathetic lives?

    • 5 months ago
  • VFORVENDETTA
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      VFORVENDETTA  
    • Mark701:

      I guess they're keeping those private Lear jets fueled up these days huh....
      BTW, I can't believe I don't remember this, but was Batista able to successfully flee when Castro took over? if so, do you happen to know how he got out? helicopter? airplane? I simply can't remember, oh and good to see you again Mark.

    • 5 months ago
  • Mark701
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      Mark701  
    • VFORVENDETTA:

      He died of a heart attack on August 6, 1973, at Guadalmina, near Marbella, Spain, two days before a team of assassins from Castro's Cuba could carry out a plan to assassinate him. (Wiki) No word on how he got out.

      Good to see you too my friend.

    • 5 months ago
  • VFORVENDETTA
  • NEVERSCARED
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      NEVERSCARED  

    • There is still blood in the turnip called the poor and middle class, not until there are hoards of homeless, and staving Americas will people begin understand. Not until the police departments are closed and the hospitals turn away everyone that is not rich, will the people snap-out of the massive hypnotization of the 1960’s American nightmare. That dream where if you work hard and follow that laws you will be rewarded with the white picket fence dream home, two car and a retirement plan, money to send your kids to college (ROFL), all of it was a pipe dream sold to the public. People have been lied too for so long that they cannot realize the truth until it is beating them upside their heads and by then of course it is too late.

    • 5 months ago
  • VFORVENDETTA
  • Buckeye_Bill
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      Buckeye_Bill  

    • This video of Bill Moyers, one of my all-time favorite journalists, is from nearly four years ago. The issues raised has only grown since then. The points made in this video clarify the underlying problems of poverty and hunger in America....and the world, too.

      Bill Moyers' PBS Show (Uploaded by litxlit on Apr 14, 2008)

      No one wants to pay taxes, give away money or pay for the lazy, but if we cut welfare to the wealthy, we could feed the poor and have money left over. The Agriculture Bill funds food stamps and food banks, but also pays agricultural subsidies that flow primarily to the wealthy, without regard to need or profitability. How much? Billions of your tax dollars wasted, while the government can't find the millions of dollars it would take to feed children and working poor, most of whom are rural families.

      Worse, it subsidizes corporate farms, competing with non-subsidized subsistence farmers in third world countries. So much for Free Markets. If this sounds familiar, see the video on Corporate Welfare, below.

      Visit the PBS archives to see the complete show and more of Bill Moyers.
      http://www.pbs.org/moyers

    • 5 months ago
  • kvb1
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      kvb1  
    • Buckeye_Bill:

      Corporate welfare is what is killing this country. Why do we give corporations that make billions in profits a deduction for plant & equipment depreciation? Shouldn't this huge corporations be putting money aside to purchase new without us subsidizing them? Should we create a small business tax system that is completely different from large corporations?

      The only subsidies for agriculture should be for small, Family owned farms, not farms that are owned by a corporation and run by a family. The same should go for small business and the rich. We should create thresholds for when deductions end based on gross income from all sources. When we end that rich man's welfare, we will become a strong, more prosperous nation (massive pipe dream).

    • 5 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
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      Buckeye_Bill  
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    • The Rethuglican Party and their minions show no fear of reprisal for their inane remarks about how the unemployed are lazy and just need to go out and find a job...like where in America does this Republican majority held Congress and the Fixed Noise Propaganda machine think these jobs exist? ONLY in their minds, I tell you! And their minds are so small and disconnected from reality that I would laugh if it WAS funny....but if you're looking....no BEGGING for work, you don't have the patience to laugh at their total lack of compassion for those that NEED a job! And now we are faced with the loss of even MORE jobs by way of the United States Post Office's new "plan" to save money by laying off over tens of thousands of employees and what's House Speaker Boehner's idea to address the deficit? Why laying off another 200,000 Federal employees, ten per cent of the total government workforce and freezing the pay of those that are left with a job! AND to break the backs of unions that do give a chitola about the working class. For without unions, there would never have been a middle class in the first place!

      What was the Republican Party's "promise"? To be the best dang "job creators" we the people have ever voted into Office a year ago? Liars everyone of them!

      About the only jobs they have created is the need for more employees at the unemployment offices around the country to handle the influx of the huge numbers of the newly unemployed that are lining up for the few checks they will receive after being kicked to the curb! And many states have reduced the number of UI checks and in one they will receive up to 20 weeks and then they will be in the same boat as the millions that will not be getting UI checks after their benefits run out in the next few weeks! Quite a few states have reduced the amount of those checks paid out in UI benefits, too! http://hrstrategiesblog.com/2011/09/22/state-unempl...

      And the kick in the gut from the Republican Party is to cut the Federal Food Program funds, just because they think there's some imaginary lottery winner who is receiving imaginary food stamps somewhere in Pondunk, PA!

      What I see happening is the turning of the clock back to a time when Americans lived a hard scrabble life existing on anything that they could find with no assistance from the government whatsoever. Before there were safety nets to catch those that had nothing left to lose but their dignity. That time was called the Great Depression and through all the struggles of the past 80 years to prevent those same occurrences from ever happening again programs that have been in place are now being attacked under a barrage of simple-minded, selfish politicians that paint a picture of poverty as something that is due to the poor's own making. That all one needs to do is go out and find a job and all their problems will be solved. Especially for this batch of Politicians we have in Washington today!

      I used to think these people that preach this message were naive.

      But I now know they're just plain stupid.

      They truly are CLUELESS!

      (Picture: Facing life head on Jack Whinery, homesteader, and his family in Pie Town, New Mexico, October 1940)

    • 5 months ago
  • kennymotown
  • kvb1
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      kvb1  
    • Buckeye_Bill:

      Unfortunately those needed jobs at the unemployment office are getting harder to come by as states cut budgets and lay-off more of their workers. The RIPublican strategy is to push the unemployment rate over 25% as quickly as possible. Ron Paul would kill 5 cabinate departments alone. How is that going to fix the deficit? Only if we go back to 26 weeks of unemployment insurance. That way the government can stop making those lousy payment to all those lazy people.

    • 5 months ago
  • cmc101
  • Buckeye_Bill
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      Buckeye_Bill  
    • kvb1:

      Information equals knowledge. Knowledge equals power.

      Power to change false ideas before they take hold only to perpetuate even more ignorance of what poverty in America is and what to do about it.

      We the People need to educate our leaders in Congress what we want them to do about hunger in America.

      Since they haven't a clue what's going on out here in cities and towns from Alaska to Florida.

    • 5 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
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      Buckeye_Bill  
    • cmc101:

      "take a deep breath and keep up the good work"

      I wish I could catch my breath, but...as Warren Zevon used to say, "I'll sleep when I'm dead"...or take a deep breath then, also. I do not wish to toot my own horn, but I see these scenarios in living color almost on a daily basis and do what I can to help those who need assistance or they would go to bed hungry.

      I have intimate knowledge of fellow citizens that are some of the hardest working people you could ever meet and yet, because there are no jobs for them to apply for their empty stomachs don't have ears to hear why there's nothing being "served" today.

      I get so angry with politicians that turn their heads and refuse to listen to the cries of those that want to work and provide for their families, but when the car is out of gas, the pocketbook is empty, the landlord is demanding rent, the utility company is threatening cut-off, what can a person do but soldier on hoping that SOMETHING will happen tomorrow! That they somehow will find employment....but when tomorrow comes and it's just a repeat of yesterday, a human being can live on dreams only so far.

      People are getting desperate out here in the real world. I fear that what could happen if things don't improve in this country...and soon...we may see an ugly side of the poverty stricken when they run out of patience seeing their children going to bed hungry night after night.

      A greedy man will try again tomorrow if he can't take from you what he wants today.

      A hungry man may not have a tomorrow.

    • 5 months ago
  • cmc101
  • kvb1
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    • Let's take a moment to consider this.

      OK, for a single person the poverty level is $11,000. That is $916.67 per month to spend on food, clothing and shelter, and in some cases transportation to and from work. For a family of four it comes out to $1859.50 per month, and the number of poor is underestimated even according to the government.

      The Census Bureau says short of sleeping on the streets, many more people are doubling up — living with friends and relatives. Since the start of the recession, the number of doubled-up households has grown about 10 percent to almost 22 million. And this past spring, almost 6 million young adults ages 25-34 were living with their parents — more than a million more than before the downturn began. The bureau says almost half of these young adults would be considered poor if their parents weren't supporting them.
      http://www.npr.org/2011/09/13/140438725/census-2010-saw-poverty-rate-increase-in...

      Driven by the persistent weakness in the economy, the poverty rate in 2010 reached its second-highest point since 1965, median income declined, and the number and percentage of Americans without health insurance stood at record highs, the Census Bureau said yesterday. The share of Americans in "deep poverty" — with incomes below half of the poverty line — also hit the highest level on record, with data going back to 1975 (see Appendix Table 1).

      APPENDIX TABLE 1:
      Poverty Worst in Decades by Several Measures
      Worst... In 2010
      Share of overall population in poverty
      Since 1993 15.1%
      Number of people in poverty
      On record* 46.2 million
      Share of people below half of the poverty line
      On record *6.7%
      Share of poor people below half of the poverty line
      On record* 44.3%
      Share of children in poverty
      Since 1993 22.0%
      Share of adults aged 18 to 64 in poverty
      Since 1966 13.7%
      Share of people living in suburbs in poverty
      Since 1967 11.8%
      * Data on the number of people in poverty are available from 1959. Data on the share of people below half of the poverty line are available from 1975. These figures use the official Census Bureau definition of poverty — which does not count non-cash benefits and tax credits such as the EITC, a number of which were created or expanded over the period from the 1960s to the present. Under alternative poverty measures that include such benefits and that analysts generally regard as superior measures of poverty, such as a revised measure of poverty proposed by a National Academy of Sciences panel in the mid-1990s, many of the 2010 figures shown here likely would not represent such long-term highs. Data using an NAS-type measure of poverty are not yet available for 2010, however, and are available for past years only on a limited basis.
      Source: U.S. Census Bureau
      APPENDIX TABLE 2:
      Key Changes in Poverty, Income and Health Insurance
      2010 Change from 2009 to 2010
      Number Poor (millions of people)
      46.2 million + 2.6 million*
      Poverty Rate (percentage points)
      15.1% + 0.8 pts*
      Poverty Rate for Children (percentage points)
      22.0% + 1.3 pts*
      Real Median Household Income
      $49,445 - $1,154*
      Real Median Income of Non-Elderly Household
      $55,276 - $1,466*
      Number of Americans without Health Insurance (millions of people)
      49.9 million + 0.9 million*
      Percentage of Americans without Health Insurance (percentage points)
      16.3% + 0.2 pts
      Percentage of Children without Health Insurance (percentage points)
      9.8% + 0.2 pts
      * Denotes statistically significant change
      Source: U.S. Census Bureau
      End Notes:
      [1] Fully comparable data on health insurance are available back to 1999. Census has earlier data back to 1987 but cautions users that the earlier series is not fully comparable and likely understates the number of people with some forms of insurance. If fully consistent data were available from 1987 onward, they would show an even larger increase in people with no health insurance.
      [2] The poverty rate increased significantly in 2001-2004, 2008, 2009, and 2010. (It edged upward in 2007, and downward in 2005, but those changes were not statistically significant.) The poverty rate fell by a statistically significant amount in only one year in this period, 2006.
      [3] Hannah Shaw and Chad Stone, "Tax Data Show Richest 1 Percent Took A Hit In 2008, But Income Remained Highly Concentrated At The Top," Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, October 21, 2010, http://www.cbpp.org/files/10-21-10inc.pdf.
      [4] Arloc Sherman, "Safety Net Effective at Fighting Poverty But Has Weakened for the Very Poorest," Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, July 6, 2009, www.cbpp.org/files/7-6-09pov.pdf.
      [5] Yonatan Ben-Shalom, Robert Moffitt, and John Karl Scholz, "An Assessment of the Effectiveness of Anti-Poverty Programs in the United States," available at http://www.irp.wisc.edu/publications/dps/pdfs/dp139211.pdf. See also Arloc Sherman, "Public Programs Keep Millions Out of Poverty, New Study Shows," Off the Charts blog, May 18, 2011, http://www.offthechartsblog.org/public-programs-keep-millions-out-of-poverty-new... .
      [6] Erica Williams, Michael Leachman, and Nicholas Johnson, "State Budget Cuts in The New Fiscal Year Are Unnecessarily Harmful," Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, updated July 28, 2011, http://www.cbpp.org/files/7-26-11sfp.pdf; Liz Schott and LaDonna Pavetti, "Many States Cutting TANF Benefits Harshly Despite High Unemployment and Unprecedented Need," Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, May 19, 2011, http://www.cbpp.org/files/5-19-11tanf.pdf.

      http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3580

    • 5 months ago
  • kennymotown
  • kvb1
  • sawwow
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      sawwow  

    • Compared to the rest of the world our poverty stricken Americans have so much to be thankful for. Over 98% of our poor own a TV, a car, and a cell phone. Try getting on the internet in the Congo! Over 60% are obese from eating every thing they can get for free. Most all of our poor have a house to live in and some even have the government paying their rent and electricity bills. How about a grass shack and no running water - take a trip to Cambodia! Ever been to Ethiopia or Kenya? How about living in Manchuria. Oh yes, our poor tired masses, I could go on and on but, whats the point in the end I will just be called a bigot and raciest.

    • 5 months ago
  • Itsbatman_Durr
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      Itsbatman_Durr  
    • sawwow:

      not a bigot, just boring, and misguided. so it seems your point is fuck off poor homeless guy, cause someone in africa is doing worse.. and the rest of you idealists, screw off cause you shouldnt be helping anyone if you arent resolving everything everywhere?

    • 5 months ago
  • kennymotown
  • cmc101
  • mybologna
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      mybologna  
    • sawwow:

      Of course the poor have TVs. Just imagine if they didn't. They would not be hypnotized and persuaded to constantly vote against their best interest. Maybe they would organize with their neighbors and fight for their welfare. In the book 1984 Winston lived in a small weathered apartment which featured a large TV that watched his every move. It was there to control his thoughts and actions. Think of a TV as means to control the masses. TVs in poor homes benefits the wealthy more than it benefits the poor. For the poor it is one of the cheapest forms of entertainment available to them. You can buy a second hand TV at the salvation army for about the price you can buy groceries for one day. The government even provided a free voucher for the purchase of a converter box that will allow you to receive corporate and religious propaganda through the airwaves. The poor have a TV? big f@##king deal.
      A Car? Not all poor have a car and if they do have one it is a great monetary hardship. When it comes to public transportation in the United States, there is not big support for it because it is mostly the poor who use it, and they do not have much political power.
      A cell phone? They have gotten so cheap that even in the Congo and the poorest in India and Kenya have them. Laddy f@#king da.
      As for the poor who are fat? The poor have limited access to healthier foods such as fruits and vegetables. Instead, the cheapest foods that the poor can afford come from highly government subsidized corn products and processed foods. These "foodstuffs" that have a long shelf life, are loaded with waste byproducts such as casein and fats, loaded with chemical preservatives, and packed with salt and/or highly subsidized corn syrup. All these foods are cheaper and therefore part of the diet of the poor. The ones who benefit from producing this "food" are the multinational corporations who can produce low quality food at lower prices. Even school lunches have been taken over by large food conglomerates. The lunch ladies no longer cook, they heat up highly processed, sodium and preservative filled, corn sugar sweetened sh#t. Geez, I wonder why our poor are often fat?
      Wake up and stop polluting the world with misinformation and half truths. Get informed and stop talking about what you don't know.

    • 5 months ago
  • VFORVENDETTA
  • Mark701
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      Mark701  
    • sawwow:

      You've set a pretty low bar for comparison. You are comparing a country that brags about having the highest living standard in the world to poverty stricken third world nations. A better comparison would be to compare the US definition of poverty (i.e. 11,000 for a single person and 22,300 for a family of four) to other developed nations to see if it's in the same ball park, then compare the numbers of poor.

      How well do you think you'd do if you had to live on that amount of money?

    • 5 months ago
  • cmc101
  • nardo1224
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      nardo1224  

    • It's not that that the American people have a memory lapse, it's we are constantly bombarded with 24/7 365 bullshit and do not ever have time to think. We scramble home to watch stars dance or kids sing and never a moment to actually reflect on exactly what is going on. Also can someone please tell me when did our media become flooded with British talk show hosts. every where I turn I see someone British in from of me on the TV.

    • 5 months ago
  • nikonwilly
  • nardo1224
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      nardo1224  
    • nikonwilly:

      We have been taught to never Question authority, never speak up for yourself, you cannot win so why try and we have very few examples to show the American people that this is not true. Even our elected representatives never fight for their constituents. Once the people see that there can be change and it is possible they will jump on the bandwagon. The last Presidential election shows people will act when they believe it will be effective.

    • 5 months ago
  • wally60
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      wally60  
    • nikonwilly:

      absolutly right i have no faith in the american people as long as we have monday night football,danceing with the stars and all the other crap they feed us it wont change.the problem with america is everyone is looking out for themselves we forgot how to be a country .

    • 5 months ago
  • Itsbatman_Durr
  • cmc101
  • cmc101
  • Luna2na
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      Luna2na  
    • wally60:

      And the recently recovered aristocracy has determined that we're better off if we aren't united. They truly don't want us to be a country anymore....

      We have been so conditioned by the TV and its offshoot media that many US citizens under twenty years of age can't read or spell in their own native language!

      I gave up on corporatocracy, I mean capitalism, a long time ago. I have no assets, per se, and only participate when absolutely necessary in order to survive...... And I live on an income of < $8K a year, because there isn't enough of a job market and there are no wage increases where I live - for anyone but the rich fulks in town.

      It's not easy or pretty, but I don't care much about appearances anymore either... Over qualified, under employed, underpaid and over fifty... try that one on you naysayers. I worked for the US Census Bureau for nearly a year last year. As a low-level supervisor, it was the most money I've earned in a decade... and not from a lack of trying. Age discrimination is as bad as any other kind of discrimination. All forms, and there seem to be more of them every month, are intended to eliminate large portions of the workforce from gainful employment. These corporate "people" want serfs, a lot of them, to work at slave-labor jobs with no recourse of any kind... It's almost that time of man... or maybe it already is.

    • 5 months ago
  • wally60
  • Mark701
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      Mark701  
    • nardo1224:

      The only reason I kept cable TV in the past was because my girlfriend wanted it. Last month I convinced her to let me cancel and she admitted she didn't miss it. TV is an abject wasteland the sole purpose of which is to keep you mesmerized with crap programming so they can air crappy commercials intended to get you to buy crap products. It has no redeeming characteristics whatsoever.

    • 5 months ago
  • nardo1224
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      nardo1224  
    • Mark701:

      I so agree with you, especially when we are paying sometimes thousands of dollars a year for it. All that money goes to buying congressmen to enact laws that will allow the corporatists to keep their foot on our neck. I don't think Americans realize we are paying for the rope that is used to hang us.

    • 5 months ago
  • Itsbatman_Durr
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      Itsbatman_Durr  

    • sadly, probably not. stealing our freedoms didnt do it. killing our young doesnt do it. sadly, even here on current, people are too stupid to realize they are being played, and would rather choose sides in a rigged game than change the world for humankind.

    • 5 months ago
  • LT4456
  • cmc101
  • Luna2na
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      Luna2na  
    • cmc101:

      The banks fund the MICs, All of them; the military industrial complex, the medical industrial complex, the religious industrial complex, the financial industrial complex and all the other corporate industrial complexes... It's all one big happy nonhuman family.

    • 5 months ago
  • ThirdSection
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      ThirdSection  

    • General worsening of conditions don't cause revolutions (though it helps). A spark -- an incident that happens at exactly the right time that resonates with exactly the right people -- is what will cause a revolution, and those things come quite unexpectedly.

      In Tunisia, some guy got harassed by the cops for selling fruit...

    • 5 months ago
  • cmc101
  • ThirdSection
  • cmc101
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      cmc101  
    • ThirdSection:

      how far does that report goes when the major news won't publish it
      and the 400 cable and satellite stations are talking food, sex and religion that entertain the masses of couch potatoes. meanwhile back at the ranch along comes Jones
      to the rescue

    • 5 months ago
  • ThirdSection
    • 0
      ThirdSection  
    • cmc101:

      Perhaps the couch potatoes aren't the right people for such a spark to resonate with. This, of course, leaves it to the rest of us. And so what if the TV stations don't pick it up and feed it into the tube, we have other means of communicating now.

    • 5 months ago
  • coolplanet
  • cmc101
  • bailey78
  • kennymotown
  • bailey78
  • kennymotown
  • hombre76
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      hombre76  

    • He pulls a prayer book out of a sleeping bag
      preacher lights up a bud and takes a drag
      waiting for when the last shall be first and the first shall be last
      in a cardboard box beneath the underpass
      got a one way ticket to the promised land
      got a hole in your belly and a gun in your hand
      sleeping on a pillow thats sollid rock
      bathing in the city aquaducts

      The highway is alive tonight
      where its headed eveybody knows
      So im sitting down here in the camp fire light
      waiting on the gost of Tom Joad.....

    • 5 months ago
  • hombre76
    • +3
      hombre76  

    • yes it will, that and the fact that Obama is about to sign into law the use of millitary on American soil against Americans while waiving the right to trial and allowing indefinate detention and torture. these are not the actions of a legitimate authority under the constitution and should be resisted by all free people.

    • 5 months ago
  • CasparMilquetoast
  • hombre76
  • wally60
  • CollegiateMind
    • +4
      CollegiateMind  

    • We need to watch 'who' it is that we're spending our dollars with. Business and banks need Our dollars, and we can dispense them with non-Corporate business/banks, helping the middle class.
      And as far as our representatives in Congress: I'm sure most of us know people who are much smarter and have more ethics than most people in Congress. Likely They're too ethical to want to hobnob with the caliber of politicians we seem stuck with. Good post, kennymotown!

    • 5 months ago
  • FattyArbuckle
  • bailey78
  • nardo1224
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      nardo1224  

    • We need to stop depending on the compromised media to indicate the status of our country and look at our lives. No only does our Government not give a damn but they are taking steps to make sure we are powerless to speak up concerning our situation. There are strength in numbers and we need to unite state by state, county by county, town by town with one message."POLITICIANS RESIGN OR YOU WILL BE THROWN OUT"!

    • 5 months ago
  • kennymotown
  • VFORVENDETTA
  • nardo1224
    • +2
      nardo1224  
    • VFORVENDETTA:

      Works for me! By the way I just watched V for Vendetta and I must say I'm surprised that I am just now seeing this movie and I only found out about it when I googled to find out where to purchase the masks. Excellent movie. I think I'll watch it again.!

    • 5 months ago
  • VFORVENDETTA
    • +1
      VFORVENDETTA  
    • nardo1224:

      Thanks for letting me know, one of my very favorite lines from the film:

      "A people should not be afraid of their government, a government should be afraid of its people"

      Thanks for the input.

    • 5 months ago
  • VFORVENDETTA
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      VFORVENDETTA  

    • I'll tell ya what I think the irony is here Kenny. Does anybody else out there notice, how utterly detached the MSM (and I'm including NPR at this as well) is from the fact-never missing an opportunity to miss an opportunity-to call out these corporate owned treasonous bastards for what they are, doing anything looking around rolling their eyes, anything but informing the American public of the truth, that unless the American population has a memory span of a canary, it was Republicans at the helm that have practically destroyed everything they could possibly get their hands on, which of course includes the economy.

      But what does the MSM and NPR do, they sit around with these treasonous ass clowns like Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich bat shit crazy Michele Bochmann, and that Secessionist Prick Perry, and have friendly banter, speaking politely and asking the same old stupid questions (not anything too deep important or significant mind you) And getting the same stupid fucking answers I've heard for 40 years-they plan on cutting spending (that means for all social programs not the military of course) cutting taxes (not for the poor or middle class of course only for the rich) which will create jobs, jumpstart the economy, blah blah fucking blah ad Nauseaism, guess what assholes, you had eight fucking years to do that, apparently your "ideas" don't seem to work very fucking well, but does anyone in the media talk like that to these treasonous ass clowns? no, because those pricks are bought and paid for as well.

      The bottom line, is instead of having televised "debates" amongst these groups of criminals, they should be on the run from the law -if our laws were not owned by the corporations-and the last thing on their minds would be holding any public office, but simply not being captured and imprisoned, or better yet, being publicly crucified-literally.

      I remain, V

    • 5 months ago
  • kennymotown
  • VFORVENDETTA
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      VFORVENDETTA  
    • kennymotown:

      Actually I prefer spikes, much larger surface area, much more pain inducing. To be perfectly honest, my favorite method of disposing of human trash, was used by the ancient Romans, they would wait until a Full Moon, then take said garbage out into the wilderness and slowly disembowel them with a wooden cooking spoon! No...hold on... that wasn't the ancient Romans....It was George Carlin, Still, sounds like a good idea to me! you can debate about capital punishment all you want, but I think that after somebody would witness something like that, they would think really long and fucking hard, about doing anything which is contrary to the benefit of their people, just a thought.

    • 5 months ago
  • Ambill94
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      Ambill94  
    • VFORVENDETTA:

      Well said...one thing though that bothers me..."...unless the American population has a memory span of a canary..."...that is problematic, because the American population does have the memory span of a canary and will get distracted by any sort of eye candy, ear candy etc...

      If we are ever to rescue our nation it will take a critical mass of the population to accomplish that end...we are facing an increasingly militarized presence in our domestic lives that has the potential to create a level of fear in the populous like we have not seen since April 19, 1775.

      OWS better stay focused and get some of the internal challenges settled because if it loses the spotlight between now and spring, it could become irrelevant for the reasons above...

      Just some thoughts...and as you can tell, tinged with a little frustration...

      Thanks Kenny!!!!

    • 5 months ago
  • kennymotown
  • VFORVENDETTA
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      VFORVENDETTA  
    • Ambill94:

      Very true, About the canary thing, and I also agree about the militarization of our population, I could say much more, but I need to crash, thanks for your input, hopefully we can speak again when I'm fresh, good night everybody.

    • 5 months ago
  • Ambill94
  • nardo1224
    • +1
      nardo1224  
    • VFORVENDETTA:

      We need to wake people up and the media will not be the way. We need bodies out in the street filming and posting ourselves, We can make videos we create go viral and go around this asshole media that we are currently being subjected to. There is a way and we must take it if we are to survive. Overcome the fear or the end may be near.

    • 5 months ago
  • nikonwilly
  • VFORVENDETTA
  • Vic_Romano
  • kennymotown
  • wolfess
  • artemis6
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      artemis6  
    • Vic_Romano:

      Maybe so , it VERY important to do it intelligently . Globally . The very first strike . ALL of them ( the very short list of war criminals , profiteers and such ) must be put in prison and charged . There are so few of the ultra elite , the dragon's head , if we disconnect the head the body might be subdued .

    • 5 months ago
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