If I Were A Poor Black Kid

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“This is the defining issue of our time.” He said. “This is a make-or-break moment for the middle class, and for all those who are fighting to get into the middle class. Because what’s at stake is whether this will be a country where working people can earn enough to raise a family, build a modest savings, own a home, secure their retirement.”
He’s right. The spread between rich and poor has gotten wider over the decades. And the opportunities for the 99% have become harder to realize.
The President’s speech got me thinking. My kids are no smarter than similar kids their age from the inner city. My kids have it much easier than their counterparts from West Philadelphia. The world is not fair to those kids mainly because they had the misfortune of being born two miles away into a more difficult part of the world and with a skin color that makes realizing the opportunities that the President spoke about that much harder. This is a fact. In 2011.
I am not a poor black kid. I am a middle aged white guy who comes from a middle class white background. So life was easier for me. But that doesn’t mean that the prospects are impossible for those kids from the inner city. It doesn’t mean that there are no opportunities for them. Or that the 1% control the world and the rest of us have to fight over the scraps left behind. I don’t believe that. I believe that everyone in this country has a chance to succeed. Still. In 2011. Even a poor black kid in West Philadelphia.
It takes brains. It takes hard work. It takes a little luck. And a little help from others. It takes the ability and the know-how to use the resources that are available. Like technology. As a person who sells and has worked with technology all my life I also know this.
If I was a poor black kid I would first and most importantly work to make sure I got the best grades possible. I would make it my #1 priority to be able to read sufficiently. I wouldn’t care if I was a student at the worst public middle school in the worst inner city. Even the worst have their best. And the very best students, even at the worst schools, have more opportunities. Getting good grades is the key to having more options. With good grades you can choose different, better paths. If you do poorly in school, particularly in a lousy school, you’re severely limiting the limited opportunities you have.
And I would use the technology available to me as a student. I know a few school teachers and they tell me that many inner city parents usually have or can afford cheap computers and internet service nowadays. That because (and sadly) it’s oftentimes a necessary thing to keep their kids safe at home than on the streets. And libraries and schools have computers available too. Computers can be purchased cheaply at outlets like TigerDirect and Dell’s Outlet. Professional organizations like accountants and architects often offer used computers from their members, sometimes at no cost at all.
If I was a poor black kid I’d use the free technology available to help me study. I’d become expert at Google Scholar. I’d visit study sites like SparkNotes and CliffsNotes to help me understand books. I’d watch relevant teachings on Academic Earth, TED and the Khan Academy. (I say relevant because some of these lectures may not be related to my work or too advanced for my age. But there are plenty of videos on these sites that are suitable to my studies and would help me stand out.) I would also, when possible, get my books for free at Project Gutenberg and learn how to do research at the CIA World Factbook and Wikipedia to help me with my studies.
I would use homework tools like Backpack, and Diigo to help me store and share my work with other classmates. I would use Skype to study with other students who also want to do well in my school. I would take advantage of study websites like Evernote, Study Rails, Flashcard Machine, Quizlet, and free online calculators.
Is this easy? No it’s not. It’s hard. It takes a special kind of kid to succeed. And to succeed even with these tools is much harder for a black kid from West Philadelphia than a white kid from the suburbs. But it’s not impossible. The tools are there. The technology is there. And the opportunities there.
In Philadelphia, there are nationally recognized magnet schools like Central, Girls High and Masterman. These schools are free. But they are hard to get in to. You need good grades and good test scores. And there are also other good magnet and charter schools in the city. You also need good grades to get into those. In a school system that is so broken these are bright spots. Getting into one of these schools opens up a world of opportunities. More than 90% of the kids that go to Central go on to college. I would use the internet to research each one of these schools so I could find out how I could be admitted. I would find out the names of the admissions people and go to meet with them. If I was a poor black kid I would make it my goal to get into one of these schools.
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Oh-wait.... I am, "Black Irish".... So "ethnic" looking been asked many times if I have any "black" in me....
No it's dangling.....
Didn't read, took a pass, black enough, so kiss my ass.....
(racism sucks.... it's real cute when they can go "but you're white", but you know you aren't "white enough" to suit the actual ultra racists....)
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Empathy is the No.1 leading cause of liberalism.
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Yes,....if you were a "smart kid", ( of any class/color/nationality )....and focused your energies to an almost obsessive degree,....you just MIGHT,......perhaps pull your wheels out of the cultural mud - and the smarter the better.
Ballet and impressionist painting and ice dancing . . . . .hmm,.....I think you are MUCH better off if you can start off as an "elite",....good luck with that,.....not much paint and canvas at the salvation army.
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Oh look, another white dude telling another group of (non-white) people what they should be doing. Ha, this is getting old.
I've said it a million times before. You cannot have an honest discussion about why Black Americans have such difficulty and just gloss over the context of racism. I know it's hard for some people to fathom, but it still effects millions of people on a day to day basis.
This fellow is just adding to the problem by no informing himself of the entire situation and ends up just coming off as yet another ignorant, condescending yuppie whose views only illustrate how out of touch he is with anyone that doesn't look like him.
Lame.
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Life is not fair. Get over it. Don't do drugs, don't sell drugs, don't get pregnant or get anyone pregnant, don't do felony crime, don't be a thug, stay in school and graduate. These things are what kids need to do and their parents need to reinforce daily. It transcends race. Black kids don't fail because they are black, they fail because their parents don't do their job and the kids don't do theirs. The SAME thing for white kids.
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Paratus:
Let's just take your first 4 words.
A majority of people try to make it fair. Governmental laws are implemented and programs initiated so people get the fairest possible chancee at life.
Just the most basic thing as an education k thru 12 is guaranteed.
The problem is that there is a select minority ( conservative rich white folk ) that want to take and have all others pay as much as possible. They want to discriminate based on the color of someone's skin and that is unacceptable to society as a whole and not fair.
To have a white guy try and simplify the struggles that people of color go through just to achieve the chance at equality is unfair even moreso.
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ArtBaron:
Fine, your opinion. I disagree with most of what you say.
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Obama is all talk. This man is the Potus and if he really gave a damn there are thing that he could have done. The first thing would have been to not appoint the same crooks that got us into this crap in his cabinet. seconD, he could have campaigned against all elected Democrats that would not go along with his progressive agenda (had he created one). And third, he could have united the 99% against the right and wealthy republicans who would stand in his way preventing him fom accomplishing change. I don't want to hear a dam thing from someone who is all talk but no action.As my mother used to say
" SHIT OR ELSE GET OFF THE POT" !
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nardo1224:
The thread is really about race relations and this white guy thinking that people of color can just open up their laptops and get to work....but if you want to pop off on the President ...ok.
Republicans stripped bare the country BEFORE President Obama even took office. They left a hole for him so big , that they thought he could not get out. They would do their usual dance and then promise to come back in to fix things. It worked to a degree during the mids only because we stayed home in sufficient numbers for republicans to eek out slim margin victories in the house.
If the President had come in and did a full on progressive move , he would have gotten nothing and less than nothing done. America and the world would be in a greater depression than the great depression. So many do not have a concept of that.
The President had to keep some of the badassmotherfucker money men there to keep things moving along and keep as many things as solvent as possible . He succeeded in doing that and achieved the chink in the armor health care policy leading to single payer.
( among so many other things )To disregard all of that and the reality of the bought and paid for republican filibustering senate is naive.
I am not happy ( like you ) with so many things , but I am giving the man a chance and AT LEAST 4 years to improve things -- he has .
I would be very surprised if he does not move sharp left after 12' and further in 14' with hopefully a true supermajority in the senate.
We shall see.
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ArtBaron:
Thank you!
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You're not a poor Black kid and you never will be, so go away and shut up.
SHIT TITLE !
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keithponder:
Not sure why you were downvoted so much , but anyways that is the title of the original article by Gene Marks , and i have posted the various responses from others downthread.
I agree.
A middle aged white man does not have a clue as to know what it is to be a person of color growing up in America and should have not have even tried the exercise.
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alexandrek:
a grade in creationism will help him find god... but no food work or anything else that might be important
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alexandrek:
just like santa, until you realize its your mom the whole time wrapping those gifts
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yeah, but does he really care...
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CalgarC:
I think the answer is within the attempt at the article in the first place.
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Oh puleeze...what a pompous crock of bullshit...he has no more clue than I, what he would do if he were a poor black kid...that is the most condescending bunch of crap...every time I here someone preface a statement by saying "if I were this or that" (meaning someone or something they are not), it alerts me to get prepared for some absolutely stupid rhetoric to follow...
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Education is indeed the key .
Against bigotry and hate.
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Is that what you would have done? Really? How would you know? Frankly, I'm a pretty smart guy and get along well with others (despite my disagreements with people on this site, I assure you I'm very social and really easy to get along with). If I were in their situation, I bet I'd be the best damn drug dealer on the block but I'm just guessing. So is this guy.
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pompous verbosity, tempered with hubris, displaying an astonishing insensitivity
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This requires an evolutionary facepalm.
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Nice!!! I am saving this image for later... =)
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The pontificated facepalm.
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You are trying to make the exceptional , normal . It will never be . Most people need a lot more from their community to actually get through . Until you really live it you cannot know . You cannot know how much abuse you would have to overcome , how much hopelessness . You got yours , you were lucky . That is all .
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artemis6:
If only the people in those poor communities had a more of a voice through the media with truthful video, photos and their own stories , then people such as Mr. Marks couldn't float or get a platform for this nonsense at all .
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ArtBaron:
True . Occupy is the only one to get through in a long time ...
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artemis6:
And even that message has been tried to be hijacked from a multitude of groups.
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‘If I were a poor black kid’ gets it wrong
By Fahima HaqueSo let’s get this straight, Gene Marks (and by extension, Forbes magazine) really thought he was helping when he posted his ‘If I were a poor black kid?’ piece? Because its facetious tone came across as the clueless musings of a guy who’s full of himself.
The structural inequalities facing young black kids face--or poor children of any race--will never be remedied through an ill-advised and preposterous tutorial of bookmarking Web sites like Cliffnotes or Khan Academy. Marks clownishly writes about what young black kids can do in a way that can only be categorized as bigoted and stereotypical.
And I’m not the only one with a negative reaction to the piece published Monday, readers across the Internet reacted and responded.
Dominion of New York, a New York City based black magazine wrote :
Now, it’s obvious that hard work, intelligence, and assistance from others are necessary to succeed. I grew up in a trailer in rural Alabama and I graduated from Stanford University. I am publishing this blog post at a start-up magazine that I founded with capital that I — along with my African-American husband, a Brown University graduate — saved from our wage earnings. We work hard and our families have always worked hard too (See slavery). The problem is that Marks seems to think it’s okay to require black kids to be “special” to “succeed.” I don’t.
Good magazine weighed in as well:
You find this sort of thing a lot among the white, moneyed, conservative set: "If only blacks and Latinos would work harder, they'd be fine." I don't think Marks and people who think like that are malicious, but I'd love to ask them how best to focus on your studies when all you can think about is the very real possibility that your mother is being assaulted in the bedroom where you're supposed to find sanctuary at night. How best to prioritize learning to read rigorously over scheming to get home and be the man of the house in the stead of the father who left?
Imani Gandy, voice behind the Angry Black Lady Chronicles blog wrote:
Privilege and racism are embedded in the system, and grand statements like “Try harder! Get a computer (which a poor black kid likely can’t afford in the first instance)! Get into private school!” are offensive in their banality.
So Mr. Marks, the next time you want to opine about life as a poor black kid, just stop. You know nothing of growing up black. You know nothing of growing up poor. You know nothing of the systemic problems in education that result in many black kids, poor or otherwise, being left behind. It’s not a matter of just “trying super hard and really wanting to succeed.” Your assumptions are faulty, and frankly, you sound like a jackass. A well-meaning jackass, perhaps, but a jackass all the same.http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/therootdc/post/if-i-were-a-poor-black-kid-ge...
Out of all the responses ( so many ) I like this one the best,
Especially the last line . - 5 months ago
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Jeneé | Kids can’t fight poverty alone
By JENEÉ OSTERHELDTGene Marks is not a poor black kid. He doesn’t know their blues.
He’s a middle-aged white guy living a good life who comes from a middle-class white background. Yet he wrote an entire commentary earlier this week for Forbes.com on what he would do to if he were in their shoes.
If I was a poor black kid I would first and most importantly work to make sure I got the best grades possible. I would make it my #1 priority to be able to read sufficiently. I wouldn’t care if I was a student at the worst public middle school in the worst inner city. Even the worst have their best. And the very best students, even at the worst schools, have more opportunities.
He’s right. School is important. Good grades are a must. We all know that. The “poor black kids” know that. I grew up in those low-income neighborhoods. I knew that.
But Gene Marks thinks it’s up to these kids to find a way. He says the biggest problem we face isn’t inequality. No, Marks thinks the big problem is ignorance. And he seems to be pointing his pretentious finger at the kids.
“Yes, there is much inequality,” he writes. “But the opportunity is still there in this country for those that are smart enough to go for it.”
He argues that the poor children should get scholarships to magnet schools, use the computers at the library and become familiar with technology and get to know their guidance counselors so they can go to college. Easier said than done, Marks.
His own children are lucky enough to attend a well-funded school and have two parents who aren’t overworked and underpaid to push them in the right direction. He admits it’s harder for a poor black kid. But I don’t think he realizes just how much harder it is for poor kids — of any race.
I don’t think Marks factors in that many of our nation’s poor children have problems beyond the fact that their parents have a hard time paying the bills. It’s hard to focus on grades when your stomach is growling. Did he think about the fact that there are some kids in our country who count on school lunch as their lone meal of the day?
What about the kids who take care of their siblings while their mothers work two jobs to pay the bills? Does he know there are kids who live in neighborhoods so crime-ridden that a trip to the library might need to take a backseat to personal safety? Those are just a few problems some of them face. It’s easy for Marks to say what a poor black kid should do. He has never lived their life.
“Technology can help these kids,” he writes. “But only if the kids want to be helped.”
You think Derrion Albert didn’t want help? He was the 16-year-old honor student who was beat to death just blocks from his Chicago high school while people stood by and recorded it two years ago.
There are lots of smart kids in the poor neighborhoods nationwide. But it takes more than them wanting the help. Those children are getting lost in that ever-widening gap between our country’s rich and poor. They can’t dig their way out alone. Being a self-starter helps, but it’s not always enough to combat the inequality.
President Barack Obama put it best last week when he stopped in Kansas:
I believe that this country succeeds when everyone gets a fair shot, when everyone does their fair share, when everyone plays by the same rules. These aren’t Democratic values or Republican values. These aren’t 1 percent values or 99 percent values. They’re American values. And we have to reclaim them.
If ignorance is the problem, it’s not the lack of knowledge the kids have that we’re talking about. It’s how incredibly unaware of their reality people like Gene Marks are.
Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/12/15/3321093/jenee-kids-cant-fight-poverty.html#...
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Condescending White Forbes Writer Pens ‘If I Was A Poor Black Kid’
by James Crugnale | 2:41 pm, December 14th, 2011This week, Forbes tech (!?) writer Gene Marks wrote “If I Was A Poor Black Kid”, a bold exercise in white privilege myopia, detailing what he would do to teach African-American children how to succeed in life, like “learn Google scholar.”
Marks, a self-described “middle-aged white guy” wrote this ill-advised article in response to President Obama’s speech about middle-class struggle in Kansas. Nowhere in the President’s speech is race mentioned, but Marks took it upon himself to actually go there.
“Even a poor black kid in West Philadelphia” can succeed in “2011,” Marks writes, as if he’s a volunteer at the local Boys and Girls Club.
Marks writes:
If I was a poor black kid I would first and most importantly work to make sure I got the best grades possible. I would make it my #1 priority to be able to read sufficiently. I wouldn’t care if I was a student at the worst public middle school in the worst inner city. Even the worst have their best. And the very best students, even at the worst schools, have more opportunities. Getting good grades is the key to having more options. With good grades you can choose different, better paths. If you do poorly in school, particularly in a lousy school, you’re severely limiting the limited opportunities you have.
Those down-on-their-luck black kids of West Philadelphia must thank Marks for these chestnuts of wisdom.
It’s mind-boggling in the way that Marks completely ignores all external factors — that these kids won’t have to overcome any obstacles relating to their race, just buckling down.
But here’s the kicker in his piece — Marks then lectures them to know how to turn on their computers:
If I was a poor black kid I’d use the free technology available to help me study. I’d become expert at Google Scholar. I’d visit study sites like SparkNotes and CliffsNotes to help me understand books. I’d watch relevant teachings on Academic Earth, TED and the Khan Academy. (I say relevant because some of these lectures may not be related to my work or too advanced for my age. But there are plenty of videos on these sites that are suitable to my studies and would help me stand out.) I would also, when possible, get my books for free at Project Gutenberg and learn how to do research at the CIA World Factbook and Wikipedia to help me with my studies.
Marks ignores that many of these urban school districts suffer from serious economic shortfalls and red tape. Many lack the essential resources necessary to help kids of all races succeed. As a quick aside — SparkNotes? Really? Come on, when I was a high schooler, I used those as slacker tools, not because I genuinely wanted to learn the material.
Poor black kids aren’t blind to the realities that surround them. They have to deal with them every day. Many of their families are struggling to put food on the table. Marks should stick to bashing smartphone apps and leave those kids alone.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/condescending-white-forbes-writer-pens-if-i-was-a...
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Forbes's Epic Fail:
Why Getting Into A Good School Is Hard For A "Poor Black Kid"Yesterday, Forbes' Small Business contributor, Gene Marks, laid out the solutions for a poor Black kid in West Philadelphia in his article, "If I Was A Poor Black Kid." There have been excellent responses to the privileged laden inanity that Marks writes, but I want to focus specifically on the realities of a Philadelphia public school student.
And I would use the technology available to me as a student. I know a few school teachers and they tell me that many inner city parents usually have or can afford cheap computers and internet service nowadays. That because (and sadly) it's oftentimes a necessary thing to keep their kids safe at home then on the streets. And libraries and schools have computers available too. Computers can be purchased cheaply at outlets like TigerDirect and Dell's Outlet. Professional organizations like accountants and architects often offer used computers from their members, sometimes at no cost at all.
Marks' lists technology access as the key to success, but even if Marks' mythical poor black kid was as resourceful and driven as was portrayed in the article, it is highly unlikely that he has access to technology. This is the state of computer and library access in Philadelphia:
Most Philadelphia public schools no longer have libraries where Marks' "poor black student" could access the wonders of the Internet. Just 19 percent of city public schools have a certified librarian this year and the district currently has only 48 librarians. (source)
Only about 50 percent of Philadelphia residents have daily Internet access, even fewer at home. That is supplemented but not replaced by the resources of the 54 branches of the Free Library of Philadelphia, which have been hit by budget cuts.
Want to help: Library Build is a new non-profit organization that seeks to provide that seeks to provide Philadelphia public school students with fully functional, complete libraries, and access to dedicated librarians. West Philadelphia Alliance for Children (WePAC) renovates school library spaces, collects and donates books, and provides trained volunteers to staff and run the libraries in West Philadelphia.
Marks' doesn't begin to explain how mere knowledge of the existence of tools such as Google Scholar, Diigo, Evernote and Skype is enough to transform the education of the "poor black kid." More than likely a knowledgeable adult would need to be available for guidance.
Next, Marks' mentions Philadelphia's magnet schools, highlighting Masterman, Central and Girls High as possibilities for the "poor black kid." Focusing on these three schools, they are very difficult to get into and their demographics are markedly different from the larger School District of Philadelphia. Out of the 11,438 9th graders in Philadelphia, 990 or 8.7% attend those three schools. Admission to those schools is fierce. J. R. Masterman School accepts fewer than 1% of the students that apply from outside of its middle school. Due to its larger size, Central High School is easier to get into, accepting 24% of its applicants. Admission to the Philadelphia High School for Girls is of course limited to girls.There are other great magnet schools in Philadelphia, including George Washington Carver High School of Engineering and Science, Girard Academic Music Program, Philadelphia High School for Creative And Performing Arts, Bodine High School for International Affairs, Science Leadership Academy, and others. Yet there are not enough seats in these magnet schools for every "poor black kid" to attend.
To be a "poor black kid" in West Philly and receive admission to one of these magnet schools, you can't just show up on the first day of ninth grade. All of these magnet school have admissions requirements that must be met for consideration, including excellent grades, excellent standardized test scores, and excellent attendance not just in 8th grade, but in all middle school grades. You need to know the application process, and have a parent, teacher, or guidance counselor that can help you navigate this process. None of which was addressed in Marks' privileged article.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gene-demby/post_2681_b_1149303.html
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Thanks for the truthful posts, (and mainly for listing several helpful resources).
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No problem.
It's a very important issue that a few are trying to hijack ( as usual ) - 5 months ago
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Trolling The Internet With 'If I Were A Poor Black Kid'
Kashmir Hill, Forbes StaffThis week, Forbes contributor Gene Marks wrote a story titled “If I Were A Poor Black Kid.” As soon as I saw the title, I groaned. “This is going to be offensive,” I thought. And it was. There have been many responses around the Web, including this and this and this and this and this and this and this.
In addition to staff writers (of which I am one), Forbes has a stable of 850+ writers who are “contributors” — they get a little special tag on their pages that says, “The opinions expressed are those of the writer.” Forbes pays these folks for the unique visitors and repeat visitors they attract. They are recruited based on their professional track records and journalism expertise, and editors don’t usually see or approve of their posts in advance. Does having a payment model that rewards controversy encourage writers to bait readers with offensive material?
When I first became a blogger, I discovered very quickly that the Internet has pressure points — inherently controversial topics that, if pressed, will cause the Internet to go crazy. This usually translates to lots of readers and page views. When I was a legal blogger writing for law students and corporate lawyers, those pressure points included race, gender, prestige, and fashion. The first two are universal; the latter two were, I think, unique to legal readers obsessed with hierarchies and rankings, and a profession in which women still argue about whether high heels should be required footwear in court.
Writing a post in one of these categories meant you were assured a rush of comments and readers. And if you wrote a story in one of these categories that contained offensive ideas, you were guaranteed even more readers. Case in point: The post to get the most traffic in my three years as an editor at Above the Law was about a Harvard Law student who entertained in an email the idea that “African Americans are, on average, genetically predisposed to be less intelligent.”
While I was not paid by the page view, it was always gratifying to have a lot of people read and debate something that I wrote. That’s what often drives “trolls” — those anonymous commentators in blog comments and message forums that say outrageous things and make offensive claims; they desperately want a response. In an Internet world where money is made off of page views and user engagement, that can be good for business. And on a platform where writers are paid by visitor count, controversy and the resulting spike in readership can be lucrative for the writer.
Gene Marks has proved to be pretty awesome at trolling the Internet. He wrote a post shortly after Steve Jobs’s death about how he was a jerk, and another about how most women will never become CEOs. Like his current post, these produced a lot of outrage — and also a lot of traffic.
Marks’s current piece would have been far less offensive had it not been about race, if it had instead been framed as a piece about poor kids in terrible schools and the resources on the Internet they can use to supplement their educations (assuming they have high-speed Internet access). Without the “if I were a poor black kid,” this graf from his story is unobjectionable to me (except for the part encouraging kids to read Cliffs Notes):
““I’d use the free technology available to help me study. I’d become expert at Google Scholar. I’d visit study sites like Spark Notes and Cliffs Notes to help me understand books. I’d watch relevant teachings on Academic Earth, TED and the Khan Academy. (I say relevant because some of these lectures may not be related to my work or too advanced for my age. But there are plenty of videos on these sites that are suitable to my studies and would help me stand out.) I would also, when possible, get my books for free at Project Gutenberg and learn how to do research at the CIA World Factbook and Wikipedia to help me with my studies… I would use Skype to study with other students who also want to do well in my school.”
(I *wish* Ted had been around when I was a kid.)
Of course, a post about “tech tools for schoolkids” wouldn’t generate 200,000+ page views.
So what keeps people from trolling? When your name and face are attached to what you write, you start to develop what our CPO Lewis D’Vorkin loves to call “a personal brand.” I think of it as voice, authenticity, and reputation. As writers’ bylines become bigger and our photos become more prominent, this comes to matter more. After a certain amount of race- and gender-baiting, you establish a “troll” brand and that brand may become so toxic that you become irrelevant. And that is the worst fate for any writer (and every troll): to be ignored.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2011/12/14/trolling-the-internet-with-if...
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The right and the top 1% are going to try and make this election about race.
( again )They say that if you are poor , then it is your fault.
They say that if you have nothing or less than nothing , then it is your fault.They say ( want ) government to be out of the business of helping you.Social spending is only for them and bailouts are only for them and tax cuts are only for them , but if you require something -- seek charity.
This IS a black and white issue, but not of skin color. It is CLASS warfare and not race warfare. Any color of person is affected , but predominately a person of color starts out in life with roadblocks against them.
It is NOT as easy as just going online -- so many do not have access
It is NOT as easy as signing up for this and that -- discrimination still exists
It is not as easy as just following a path -- there is not one marked for so manyWhen ALL of society succeeds , then we will be one .
Right now , all there is a gate and a tribe living beyond it with all of us left out.
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ArtBaron:
The right are going to make the election about race? So it was the right that was calling me a racist on almost a daily basis in 2008 because I supported Hillary over Obama? Wow.
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JohnA:
I don't think anyone called you a racist for supporting Hillary. You would've likely been called a racist for saying some disparaging remarks about Obama regarding his racial status, ethnic background, or perceptions on his opinions on race. However, since I do not expressly remember any of these issues verbatim, I will only say that supporting Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama is not racism as long as you are not voting for her because she is white or because Obama is black. I will also say that instead of focusing on issues that divide us as people, we should be focused on ways to unite us as people. The political divide between people is shameful and I liken it to two rival sports teams. Our politics should never be dumbed down to the point where debates are merely pep rallies and elections are poorly attended popularity contests.
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lifestudentno83:
Oh yeah they did, right here on this very website. And all I ever spoke about was his voting record, experience (or lack thereof), and policy differences. I agree with what you are saying, but unfortunately debates are pep rallys and elections are popularity contests, that's where we are.
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Letter from a poor black kid:
Baratunde Thurston responds to Forbes' Gene MarksThe following letter is a response from a hypothetical child to Gene Marks' article in Forbes, titled "If I Were A Poor Black Kid." While completely fabricated, the letter below has a stronger basis in reality than does Marks'. In his article, Marks, a business and technology contributor to Forbes, argues poorly that poor black children should use technology to improve their station in life. The article is terrible.
Dear Mr. Gene Marks,
I am a poor black kid. I don't have great parental or educational resources. I'm not as smart as your kids. These are facts. In 2011.
The one smart thing I do everyday is read Forbes. It's what all us poor black kids do. Forbes is constantly reporting on issues of relevance to me and my community. This week, I found your article "If I Were A Poor Black Kid" printed out and slid under my door like all Forbes articles.
Thank you Mr. Marks. You have changed everything about my life. Thanks to your article, I worked to make sure I got the best grades, made reading my number one priority and created better paths for myself. If only someone had suggested this earlier.
But that was just the beginning of how your exceptionally relevant, grounded and experience-based advice changed my life. Thanks only to your article, I discovered technology.
Why did my teachers not teach this? Why isn't this technology mentioned anywhere in popular culture? I don't understand, but you do.
You listed so many different websites and resources, at first it was overwhelming. But I didn't let that deter me. I thought to myself, "If a successful, caring, complicated, intelligent man like Gene Marks says to do it, then I'd better head over to rentcalculators.org right now!"
I did not stop there. I became an expert at the CIA World Factbook, started using Evernote and made it my goal to get into one of those private schools you wrote about. Before your article, I never wanted anything more for myself. I used Google (thanks for the tip!), found the names and addresses of the school admissions officers, and showed up outside of their homes. It's like they were waiting for me. They smiled, waved and immediately told me about their secret scholarship programs.
Private school was exactly like you said it would be. I went straight to the guidance counselor, and I said, "You know everything there is to know about financial aid, grants, minority programs and the like."
And she said, "I sure do! And even though I don't know your name, I'm going to help you get summer employment at a law firm or a business owned by the 1% where you could meet people and show off your stuff." I love showing off my stuff, sir. You have no idea.
I took more of your advice. I got "technical." I had no idea I could get technical. I learned software!
From there it was just a quick hop to a top college, marketable skills and an immediate job offer from a businessman starved for talent. Did someone say recession? I can't see it!
The amazing part is that I did all of this in two days! All thanks to your article!
I didn't know any of these opportunities existed. My parents and I were too tired. We were all ignorant, and quite frankly, I could have figured it out sooner on my own if I'd had the brains to do so. Your article provided those brains. It wasn't about my parents or ways to improve the school system or how to empower the community. It had nothing to do with history or accumulated privilege or social psychology. No, I simply needed to want success more and combine that with technology. You taught me that I can do all this by myself, and I have!
With that one article, you solved the problems of millions. Imagine the good you could do with three or four articles! Please don't stop with poor black kids! What about children trapped in sex trafficking? How about undocumented migrant workers? And of course, there's women. Have you ever wondered why there aren't more women CEOs? I'm sure you have. You've thought about everything and figured everything out. You are a great man. Thanks again for teaching me about technology.
http://inamerica.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/14/letter-from-a-poor-black-kid-baratunde...
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If I Were a Middle Class White Guy Writing About Being a Poor Black Kid
If I were a middle class white guy writing on Forbes.com about being a poor Black kid I’d be clueless. I’d be so clueless that I wouldn’t realize that I’m clueless, so I would not know that I should really, really step away from my expensive computer and not press send on my condescending, paternalistic and simplistic little essay that breezily fixes the problems of poor Black kids. I wouldn’t think, well, if these steps are so easy — use the Internet to get more learning and try real hard — then why don’t more kids do that? I mean, wouldn’t some of them have thought of that already? No, they wouldn’t because none of them are middle class white guys.
I wouldn’t think about how my cheery advice doesn’t really interact with the challenges of being a poor Black kid — from the lack of role models to poor schools to depressed employment opportunities to the lure of the drug game to the day-to-day difficulties of being poor that makes it hard to get out of being poor because of a system that’s constructed to keep you poor. I wouldn’t think about those things because I wouldn’t really know anything about them because I don’t have to. I could potentially solve some of my ignorance by interviewing some poor Black kids before I write about them, but I wouldn’t go do that because, you know, what if I get robbed. I saw that happen in a movie.
In my pithy, encouraging, bootstrappy message to the poor, Black kids of America I wouldn’t include a discussion of overcoming the challenges of racism — from the mind-numbing messages society sends to broken families to the paucity of opportunity to the overpolicing of poor Black communities, which leads to the prevalence of criminal records which makes it nearly impossible to get jobs. I wouldn’t realize that Black people who are applying for jobs with a clean criminal record are treated the same as white people with a criminal record, so the struggle to find a job is complicated by Black skin. I wouldn’t know that the recession has hit Blacks harder than it hit whites, so no matter what a Black kid does he cannot find a job if few exist.
I wouldn’t think about these things if I were a middle class white man because I never really think about racism because I don’t have to. Racism is something that happens to other people and I don’t really think about it that often because it’s complicated and it makes me uncomfortable to think about. I don’t even think about how race impacts my life, but I have a race card. You didn’t know I have a race card? Of course, I do. I don’t even have to pull out my race card for it to work. It works automatically. It’s accepted everywhere you want to be. Membership has its privileges.
If I were a middle class man writing about a poor Black kid I would assume that anyone who knows the world in the way that I do would make the decisions that I would make so I need only share with them the knowledge that I have. I wouldn’t think about how their environment might impact their ability or willingness to use that information. I mean, everyone has access to the Internet, right? Just turn it on and become a Google Scholar, and then Skype away to a better education. I wouldn’t think that some of them may lack Wi-Fi. I mean, everyone has Wi-Fi, right?
Look, I’m a middle class white guy on deadline at a big-time magazine, with no idea of the hornet’s nest I’m about to step into — I’m just trying to be nice and give some advice to some poor poor Black kids. I’m doing the right thing. I’m not even aware that the very gesture and the breezyness of my discussion is insulting because I’m wrapped up in a cocoon of white privilege that blinds me to the realities of being a poor Black kid, so I’m not even aware of how difficult it is to be a poor Black kid because my life has never been anywhere near as difficult. Thank God for that.
http://ideas.time.com/2011/12/15/if-i-was-a-middle-class-white-guy-writing-about...
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Or even a private school. Most private schools I know are filled to the brim with the 1%. That’s because these schools are exclusive and expensive, costing anywhere between $20 and $50k per year. But there’s a secret about them. Most have scholarship programs. Most have boards of trustees that want to give opportunities to kids that can’t afford the tuition. Many would provide funding for not only tuition but also for transportation or even boarding. Trust me, they want to show diversity. They want to show smiling, smart kids of many different colors and races on their fundraising brochures. If I was a poor black kid I’d be using technology to research these schools on the internet, too, and making them know that I exist and that I get good grades and want to go to their school.
And once admitted to one of these schools the first person I’d introduce myself to would be the school’s guidance counselor. This is the person who will one day help me go to a college. This is the person who knows everything there is to know about financial aid, grants, minority programs and the like. This is the person who may also know of job programs and co-op learning opportunities that I could participate in. This is the person who could help me get summer employment at a law firm or a business owned by the 1% where I could meet people and show off my stuff.
If I was a poor black kid I would get technical. I would learn software. I would learn how to write code. I would seek out courses in my high school that teaches these skills or figure out where to learn more online. I would study on my own. I would make sure my writing and communication skills stay polished.
Because a poor black kid who gets good grades, has a part time job and becomes proficient with a technical skill will go to college. There is financial aid available. There are programs available. And no matter what he or she majors in that person will have opportunities. They will find jobs in a country of business owners like me who are starved for smart, skilled people. They will succeed.
President Obama was right in his speech last week. The division between rich and poor is a national problem. But the biggest challenge we face isn’t inequality. It’s ignorance. So many kids from West Philadelphia don’t even know these opportunities exist for them. Many come from single-parent families whose mom or dad (or in many cases their grand mom) is working two jobs to survive and are just (understandably) too plain tired to do anything else in the few short hours they’re home. Many have teachers who are overburdened and too stressed to find the time to help every kid that needs it. Many of these kids don’t have the brains to figure this out themselves – like my kids. Except that my kids are just lucky enough to have parents and a well-funded school system around to push them in the right direction.
Technology can help these kids. But only if the kids want to be helped. Yes, there is much inequality. But the opportunity is still there in this country for those that are smart enough to go for it.
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