Liberals more unhappy than Conservatives

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Liberals respond this way: “If we’re unhappier, it’s because we are more upset than conservatives over the plight of those less fortunate than ourselves.”
But common sense and data suggest other explanations.
For one thing, conservatives on the same socioeconomic level as liberals give more charity and volunteer more time than do liberals. And as regards the suffering of non-Americans, for at least half a century conservatives have been far more willing to sacrifice American treasure and American blood (often their own) for other nations’ liberty.
Both of these facts refute the liberals-are-more-concerned-about-others explanation for liberal unhappiness.
So, let’s look at other explanations.
Perhaps we are posing the question backwards when we ask why liberals are less happy than conservatives. The question implies that liberalism causes unhappiness. And while this is true, it may be equally correct to say that unhappy people are more likely to adopt leftist positions.
Take black Americans, for example. It makes perfect sense that a black American who is essentially happy is going to be less attracted to the Left. Anyone who has interacted with black conservatives rarely encounters an angry, unhappy person.
Why?
Because the liberal view on race is that America is a racist society. Therefore, for all intents and purposes, a black American must abandon liberalism in order to be a happy individual. It is very hard, if not impossible, to be a happy person while believing that society is out to hurt you. So, the unhappy black person will gravitate to liberalism and liberalism will in turn make him more unhappy by reinforcing his view that he is a victim.
The unhappy gravitate toward the Left for a second reason. Life is hard for liberals and life is hard for conservatives. But conservatives assume that life will always be hard. Liberals, on the other hand, have utopian dreams. At his brother Robert’s funeral, the late Sen. Edward M. Kennedy recalled his brother saying: “Some men see things as they are and say, ‘Why?’ I dream things that never were and say, ‘Why not?’”
Utopians will always be less happy than those who know that suffering is inherent to human existence. The utopian compares America to utopia and finds it terribly wanting. The conservative compares America to every other civilization that has ever existed and walks around wondering how he got so lucky as to be born or naturalized an American.
Third, imagine two Americans living in essentially identical socioeconomic conditions. They earn $45,000 a year, they have the same amount of debt on their homes, and both have the same number of dependents. One seeks governmental assistance wherever possible; the other eschews any governmental help. Which one is likely to be the liberal and which one is likely to be the happier individual?
This is not a question only an oracle can answer. The one who yearns for governmental help is the one who is likely to be both liberal and less happy. Conservatism, which demands self-reliance, makes one happier. The more a man or woman feels like captain of his or her ship (as poor as that ship may be), the happier he or she will be.
A fourth explanation for greater unhappiness among liberals is that the more people allow feelings to govern them, the less happy they will be. And the further left one goes, the more importance one attaches to feelings.
It is liberal educators and liberal parents who have clamored for protecting young people from the pain of losing games. The liberal world came up with the idea of giving trophies to kids who lose; they don’t want their children feeling bad. Conservatives, on the other hand, teach their kids how to lose well. They are less worried about their children feeling bad.
A couple of years ago, I gave a speech on happiness to the students and faculty of a prestigious high school in the Los Angeles area. The subject was the need to act happy even when one isn’t feeling happy — because it is unfair to others to inflict our bad moods on them and because we will never be happy if we allow our feelings to dictate our happiness.
From what I experienced that day and learned later, liberal students and faculty generally loathed my speech; conservative students generally loved it (there were no conservative faculty to speak of). Why? Because conservatives are far more likely to be comfortable with the idea that feelings are not as important as behavior.
Those who know that feelings must not govern us, but that we must govern our feelings, are far more likely to be happy people.
The upshot of all this? There is an amazingly simple way to defeat the Left: Raise children who are grateful to be American, who don’t complain, who can handle losing, and who are guided by values, not feelings. In other words, teach them how to be happy adults.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/253768/why-unhappy-people-become-liberals...
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remanns
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Just be Liberal with the way you treat YOURSELF,.....and be KIND to your Pee Wee Herman ! - happy HOLIDAYS !
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remanns:
i gave up masterbating in theaters years ago my friend. but thanks for the well wishes. merry christmas to you as well
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congoboy [removed]
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RevKen
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I do not recall being polled about this but I can say I am one happy Liberal that personally knows a lot of unhappy conservatives. I've never been a big believer in polls.
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RevKen:
then can we discount yours as well? regardless im happy to hear that you are one of the few happy ones:)
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congoboy:
You're free to do as you wish.
I hope happiness finds you as well.
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congoboy [removed]
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RevKen:
already there as well my friend, guess you and i are a couple of the lucky ones. merry christmas
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remanns
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"Happiness" should not be mans primary goal,....just to be fair,.....or opinionated,....I suppose, depending on how you want to look at it.
Better to be a miserable but honorable and self-reliant self-directed man than a happy slave or dupe of the forces of social inertia.
Besides,....there is always beer to drink and Nietzsche to fretfully read.
HUZZAH angst !
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remanns:
you have a point but my belief is that one who is honorable, self reliant and self directed are more likely to be happy. take me for instance:) merry christmas and have one for me
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congoboy:
will do ! +^d
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Nabe8
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IGNORANCE IS BLISS.
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Nabe8:
no doubt, and since you grew up in the shelter of country living you must be in heaven
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congoboy:
Are you proposing that country people are ignorant?
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Judgian12365:
nope, just the liberal/progressive ones
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congoboy:
Actually, People who vote Democrat (progressive liberals) are better educated than those who vote Republican (regressive neoconservatives).
Liberals have the highest education level of any typology group – 49% are college graduates and 26% have some postgraduate education. Just 15% of Pro-Government Conservatives have completed college.
The Gallup Poll provided a pretty comprehensive look at what you were looking for, and it is from the latest election (D: Blue, R: Red)
Sub-High School: 51% 49% (Currently in High School or Drop Outs)
High School: 47% 53% (Finished High School, no College)
Some College: 52% 48% (Currently in College or Drop Outs)
College: 55% 45%
Grad School: 67% 33%
Post Grad School: 65% 35%
Here are the education stats (once again, Ds on the left, Rs on the right):
No High School 63% 35%
H.S. Graduate 52% 46%
Some College 51% 47%
College Graduate 50% 48%
Postgraduate Study 58% 40%
VOTE BY EDUCATION
TOTAL Democrat Republican
No High School (3%) 64% 35%
H.S. Graduate (21%) 55% 44%
Some College (31%) 51% 47%
College Graduate (27%) 49% 49%
Postgraduate (18%) 58% 41%
TOTAL...................Democrat........Republican
No High School (3%)64%...............35%
H.S. Graduate (21%)55%...............44%
Some College (31%)51%...............47%
College Graduate (27%)49%..........49%
Postgraduate (18%)58%................41%
Democratic
No High School 64%
H.S. Graduate 55%
Some College 51%
College grad 49%
Postgraduate 58%
GOP
No High School 35%
Some High school 44%
Some college 47%
College graduate 49%
Postgraduate 41%
http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/search/detailmini.jsp?_nfpb=true&_&...
http://www.ers.usda.gov/StateFacts/US.htm
http://umich.academia.edu/JosephSerwach/Papers/115617/Political_Perceptions_of_H...
http://www.duke.edu/~hillygus/documents/HillygusPB.pdf
http://www.scu.edu/ethics/publications/submitted/simas/politicalbehaviour.html
http://www.jstor.org/pss/2778029
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/813/gen-dems
http://people-press.org/http://people-press.org/files/legacy-pdf/242.pdf
http://www.gallup.com/poll/112132/Election-Polls-Vote-Groups-2008.aspx
http://www.gallup.com/poll/106381/Obama-Education-Gap-Extends-General-Election.a...
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#USP00p1
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/results/states/US/H/00/epolls.0.html
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html - 1 year ago
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Judgian12365:
actually if you deduct all the leftylib graduates who wasted their time, scholarship and grant money on liberal arts, polisci, and english majors. the skewed results you show would be significantly lower
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congoboy:
"who wasted their time, scholarship and grant money on liberal arts, polisci, and english majors"
How, exactly, are any of those things a waste of time or money?
The most prestigious accredited colleges in the nation are liberal arts universities.
The relatively few members of Congress (mostly democrats) who have postgraduate college and university degrees have at least some education in Political Science.
English majors are largely responsible for the contents of every public library in America. - 1 year ago
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Judgian12365:
you made my point. an education in a liberal arts college is also a total waste of time, scholarship and grant money. "English majors are largely responsible for the contents of every public library in America." no wonder kids prefer online gaming"
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Paratus
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I don't know about more unhappy but they sure are more hateful.
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Paratus:
Actually, although hatred isn't something that most people associate with being happy; in this case, if the study results are correct happiness does equal hatefulness, since the majority of the hate generally is on the right (particularly the reactionary regressive evangelical religious fundamentalist neoconservative "Teabagging Party" "Republican" right wing), where, seemingly paradoxically, according to this study, the majority, however slim, of the happiness also just so happens to be.
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Judgian12365:
What, do you live in some parallel universe?? How in the world can you even say this???? If you really believe this you need a twelve step program. The left has refined, polished, taken to a new art form and perfected character assassination, class warfare and hatred. Go read some of the replies to my posts. As far as that goes read your own and your referring to the Tea Party as "Teabagging party". Res ipsa loquitur.
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Paratus:
i believe unhappiness breeds hatefulness and vice versa
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Paratus:
"your referring to the Tea Party as "Teabagging party"
They actually called themselves that.
[http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/04/freedomworks-long-history-of-teabaggi...]
[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-hamsher/a-teabagger-timeline-koch_b_187312.ht...]"The left has refined and perfected class warfare"
WRONG
the reality is that those most in favor of class warfare are one the right, not the left.
->Class warfare is abolishing the working class's ability to negotiate for better working conditions and higher wages. [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41774667/ns/politics-more_politics/t/wis-assembly-pa....Tu9zsiNWq7o]
[http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wisconsin-assembly-approves-bill-stripping-union-....Tu9z0SNWq7o]
[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/25/wisconsin-assembly-passes-anti-union-bi...]
->Class warfare is staying silent about an unelected authoritarian regime that increases budget deficits by trillions of dollars while causing a collapse of the western developed world's economic system by deregulating multi-trillion dollar trans-multinational for-profit corporate conglomerations, just so long as said regime slashes taxes by billions of dollars on the wealthiest 1% of all Americans [http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/12/04/381510/upton-cant-explain-tax-cuts-j...] [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-13/rich-americans-save-money-from-tax-cuts...], so that those same multi-billionaire industrialists, while profiting billions of dollars into their personal wealth, can then proceed to lay of thousands of American workers from their companies; [http://www.mediaite.com/tv/maddow-draws-contrast-between-kochs-record-revenue-an...] but decrying and an attempt by a democratically majority-elected administration to put millions of people back to work which would DECREASE budget deficits by billions of dollars, [http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/budget/186307-cbo-obama-jobs-bill-reduces-...] while reducing taxes for the overwhelming majority of all Americans. [http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/jan/28/barack-obama/tax-...]
->Class warfare is pressing for the elimination of public health and safety regulations that save millions of lives on a nearly daily basis [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-conyers/eliminating-regulations-t_b_1111356.h...], and of the agencies to enforce them [http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/03/sen-paul-unveils-5-year-budget-plan...], because they cost too much of a reduction in the multi-billion-dollar profits of the most profitable industries and corporation the world has ever seen.
->Class warfare is staying silent about super-massive increases in budget deficits when they are caused by super-massive tax cuts to the wealthiest 1% by an unelected authoritarian regime of your own political ideological party [[http://www.politifact.com/ohio/statements/2011/apr/29/dennis-kucinich/rep-dennis...], but decrying an attempt by a democratically majority-elected administration to provide life-saving medical coverage to the overwhelmingly vast majority of all Americans [http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/03/cbo_health-care_reform_bill_...] which, according to every non-ideologically-driven independent analysis, would actually result in a net DECREASE in deficits of billions of dollars for years to come [http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/03/18/us-usa-healthcare-idUSTRE61O4NV2010031...].
->Class warfare is repeatedly insisting that billions of dollars in tax slashing for multi-millionaires are "free" or "pay for themselves (in blatant contradiction of facts) [http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/13/can-tax-cuts-pay-for-themselves/], while insisting that benefits for unemployed must be "paid for" [http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2010/07/bachmann-pay-for-unemployment-benef...] by slashing sociological safety net benefits and raising taxes on the poorest of all citizens.
->Class warfare is the elimination of Social Security [http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/06/house-republicans-look-to-privatize-s...] and Medicare [http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/25/us-usa-budget-medicare-idUSTRE7443Q320...], the sociological infrastructure of the western democratic industrialized developed "first" world.
->Class warfare is forcing tax increases on 90% of all Americans [http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2011/09/07/why-the-republicans-want-to-ra...] in order to hold the American Representative Democratic Republic hostage [http://www.examiner.com/economic-policy-in-national/republicans-offer-to-raise-t...] for billions of dollars in tax cuts for multi-billion-dollar industries and corporations and the wealthiest 1%. [http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2011/08/25/do-republicans-really-want-to-cut...]
->Class warfare is giving multi-billion-dollar tax slashing to multi-billionaires. [http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/11/23/375654/bush-tax-cut-one-percent/]
[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/14/tax-cuts-for-wealthy-americans_n_101160...]
->Class warfare is giving multi-trillion-dollar trans-multinational corporate conglomerates the voting power of american citizens in elections. [http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/supreme_court_dispatches/2010/01...] - 1 year ago
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"The left has polished, taken to a new art form character assassination and hatred."
WRONGSpeaking of character assassination, how about ACTUAL assassination?
Beck Again Wishes Obama Be Assassinated
http://www.politicalarticles.net/blog/2010/03/27/psychopath-beck-again-wishes-ob...Fox News Threatens President Obama’s Life
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201106130022Radio host Glenn Beck "thinking about killing Michael Moore"
Glenn Beck, responding to the question 'What would people do for $50 million?', Musing about what he would do for $50 million from the May 17, 2005 broadcast of "The Glenn Beck Program":
BECK: "Hang on, let me just tell you what I'm thinking. I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I'm wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. ... No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out. Is this wrong? I stopped wearing my What Would Jesus -- band -- Do, and I've lost all sense of right and wrong now. I used to be able to say, 'Yeah, I'd kill Michael Moore,' and then I'd see the little band: What Would Jesus Do? And then I'd realize, 'Oh, you wouldn't kill Michael Moore. Or at least you wouldn't choke him to death.' And you know, well, I'm not sure."
http://mediamatters.org/research/200505180008And speaking, as we were of hatred: How's this?
Glenn Beck referred to survivors of Hurricane Katrina who remained in New Orleans as "scumbags." discussed his “hatred” not only for 9/11 victims’ families, but also for victims of Hurricane Katrina.
From the September 9, 2005 broadcast of The Glenn Beck Program:
BECK: "“It took me about a year to start hating the 9/11 victims’ families… I’m so sick of them because they’re always complaining… We did our best for them… But the second thought I had when I saw these people and they had to shut down the Astrodome and lock it down [because of rioting while supplies were being distributed], I thought: I didn’t think I could hate victims faster than the 9-11 victims.” He continues to say, “This is a 90,000-square-mile disaster site, New Orleans is 181 square miles… And that’s all we’re hearing about, are the people in New Orleans. Those are the only ones we’re seeing on television are the scumbags… It’s just a small percentage of those who were left in New Orleans, or who decided to stay in New Orleans, and they’re getting all the attention.”
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200509090003"do you live in some parallel universe"
Maybe you'd rather get your "news" HERE:
Limbaugh Suggests Democrats Hate America and Like Dictators:
"These people have become the mainstream thought -- thinkers, generators of the Democratic Party. It's who they are. They hate this country. They hate the military of this country." [4/15/04]
[Speaking about Democrats] "I don't know who they are, I don't know what they believe, but I can't relate. I can't possibly understand somebody who hates this country, who was born and raised here. I don't understand how you hate this Constitution. I don't understand how you hate freedom. I don't understand how you hate free markets, but that's who elites are, because freedom and free markets challenge their power. It's the only thing I can come up with. I know it's much more insidious and hideous than that, but I still can't relate to it." [3/16/04]
http://mediamatters.org/research/200405020008CNN's Glenn Beck: "A Handful Of People Who Hate America...Are Losing Their Homes In A Forest Fire Today"
Beck: "[A] handful of people who hate America ... are losing their homes in a forest fire today"
Glenn Beck, on why people who lost their homes in forest fires in California had it coming, from the October 22, 2007 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' 'The Glenn Beck Program':
BECK: "Schwarzenegger came out over the weekend and he said the Republicans need to run to the center and they need to grab the center. And the headline -- I looked at it, and I went "OK, OK, what is this? What is this? Oh, it's Schwarzenegger. I'm probably going to disagree with it." And then I started reading it, and I absolutely disagreed with it. He said they need to start talking about health care and education. That's not the way to win. Let's talk about health care and education? That's not the way to win. That's not the way to win on any front. I'm not even talking about -- the least I care about is winning the election. How about winning the war? How about saving our country? And, you know, it made me think. I want to make this very clear. When I say on the air, and I've said it a lot lately, that we need to come together and we need to get back into the center, we're being pushed on to the edges -- I want you to understand, that is not on policies. I don't mean that we come in the center on policies. We come to the center on principles. We come back to the center of the melting pot, that we're all one America, that just because I disagree with you doesn't mean you hate America, and I love America. We all love America. We just disagree on how we should function, what we should do, big government, small government. It doesn't mean you hate America. I think there is a handful of people who hate America. Unfortunately for them, a lot of them are losing their homes in a forest fire today. There are a few people that hate America. But I don't think the Democrats are those. I think there are those posing as Democrats that are like that. But you don't come into the center. You have to stand up for what you believe in."
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200710220003 - 1 year ago
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How is this for "taking character assassination to a new art form"?
CNN's Beck to first-ever Muslim congressman: "[W]hat I feel like saying is, 'Sir, prove to me that you are not working with our enemies' "
Interviewing Representative Keith Ellison, (D-MN), the first Muslim U.S. Congressman, From the November 14, 2006 edition of Glen Beck's show on CNN's Headline News:
Glenn Beck: "OK. No offense, and I know Muslims. I like Muslims. I`ve been to mosques. I really don`t believe that Islam is a religion of evil. I — you know, I think it`s being hijacked, quite frankly. With that being said, you are a Democrat. You are saying, “Let’s cut and run.” And I have to tell you, I have been nervous about this interview with you, because what I feel like saying is, “Sir, prove to me that you are not working with our enemies.”
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200611150004Limbaugh Finds Common Cause Between Democrats and Terrorists:
"I'm going to tell you is what's good for terrorists is good for the Democratic Party in this country today. All you got to do is check the way they react." [3/15/04]
"You don't hear the Democrats being critical of terrorists. In fact, you hear the Democrats saying, "We've got to find a way to get along with them." [4/5/04]
"They [Democrats] celebrate privately this attack in Spain." [3/16/04]
http://mediamatters.org/research/200405020008 - 1 year ago
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"the doctrine of res ipsa loquitur (Latin for "the thing speaks for itself")
That it most certainly does indeed:
August 6th - Rush Limbaugh compares Democrats to Hitler's Nazi party and compares President Obama's health care logo to a Nazi swastika:
"... the Democrat Party and where it's taken this country, the radical left leadership of this party bears much more resemblance to Nazi policies than anything we on the right believe in at all..." [The Rush Limbaugh Show, 08/06/09]Beck said Gore using "same tactic" in fight against global warming as Hitler did against Jews
Glenn Beck, linking Al Gore's campaign against global warming to Hitler's campaign against the Jews:
"Al Gore's not going to be rounding up Jews and exterminating them. It is the same tactic, however. The goal is different. The goal is globalization...You got to have an enemy to fight. And when you have an enemy to fight, then you can unite the entire world behind you, and you seize power. That was Hitler's plan. His enemy: the Jew. Al Gore's enemy, the U.N.'s enemy: global warming. Then you get the scientists — eugenics. You get the scientists — global warming. Then you have to discredit the scientists who say, 'That's not right.' And you must silence all dissenting voices. That's what Hitler did. That's what Al Gore, the U.N., and everybody on the global warming bandwagon [are doing]."
http://mediamatters.org/research/200705010003Beck compares Fox News to Jews during Holocaust, other news organizations to silent bystanders
Likens Criticism of Fox News To Murder Of 6,000,000 Jews:
BECK: "When they're done with Fox, and you decide to speak out on something. The old, "first they came for the Jews, and I wasn't Jewish." When you have a question, and you believe that something should be asked, they're a -- totally fine with you right now; they have no problem with you. When they're done with Fox and talk radio, do you really think they're going to leave you alone if you want to ask a tough question? Do you really think that a man who has never had to stand against tough questions and has as much power as he does -- do you really believe after he takes out the number one news network, do you really think that this man is then not going to turn on you? That you and your little organization is going to cause him any hesitation at all not to take you out? If you believe that, you should open up a history book, because you've missed the point of many brutal dictators. You missed the point on how they always start."
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200910130016Beck: Stem-cell research will lead directly to the search for a new ‘master race.’
Glenn Beck, comparing health care reform to Nazi eugenics, "The Glenn Beck Program," March 9, 2009
BECK: "'So here you have Barack Obama going in and spending the money on embryonic stem cell research, and then some, fundamentally changing – remember, those great progressive doctors are the ones who brought us Eugenics. It was the progressive movement and it science. Let’s put science truly in her place. If evolution is right, why don’t we just help out evolution? That was the idea. And sane people agreed with it! And it was from America. Progressive movement in America. Eugenics. In case you don’t know what Eugenics led us to: the Final Solution. A master race! A perfect person. …. The stuff that we are facing is absolutely frightening. So I guess I have to put my name on yes, I hope Barack Obama fails. But I just want his policies to fail; I want America to wake up. You have three people in the White House that are in love with eugenics or whatever it is you would call it today. ... Please dear God, read history. Please dear God read the truth of what these people have said in their own words, and ask yourself this one question: Do you trust these people enough to give them control over who lives and who dies? Because that's what health care is when you have no other choice but to go to the state."
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/03/09/36660/beck-eugenics/"In the common law of negligence....states that the elements of duty of care and breach can be sometimes inferred from the very nature of an accident or other outcome, even without direct evidence of how any defendant behaved."
That is so true that it's actually frightening:
88 Year Old White ‘Tea-Bagging’ Supremacist Terrorism
Posted on 11 June 2009
James Von Brunn, 88, a white supremacist, Holocaust denier and a member of the Obama “Birther” Movement assaulted the Washington Holocaust museum with a .22 caliber rifle — killing one guard.
http://www.politicalarticles.net/blog/2009/06/11/great-grand-daddy-terrorism-an-... - 1 year ago
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Judgian12365:
wow, for a self proclaimed brainiac you dont know jack
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congoboy:
I know who is waging the real class war in this country.
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congoboy:
He's a legend in his own mind already! I'll bet if he was limber enough, he'd reach around and kiss his own ass!
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english majors?
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congoboy:
English majors aren't rich enough to wage war on the poor, and we're too poor to wage war on the working class.
We're also too smart to have any desire whatsoever to oppose the 99% of all of the people in this world who aren't rich. - 1 year ago
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"He's a legend"
No,
I'm just not willfully blind. - 1 year ago
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wow! and you consider yourself intelligent? compared to most of the world americas so called, self titled and delusional 99% are the 1%
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Judgian12365:
so it comes naturally then?
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congoboy:
"you consider yourself intelligent"
Demonstrably, provably both qualitatively and quantifiably nearly exponentially more so than an ignorant anti-education anti-intellectual ideologue such as yourself could ever possibly dream of being
(that is not to say that actually being intelligent is or would ever be something that those, like yourself, whose willfully-ignorant reactionary religious-fundamentalism-motivated ideology is in diametric opposition to intellect and education, in and of themselves, would ever have any desire whatsoever to aspire to) - 1 year ago
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congoboy:
"so it comes naturally then"
What does?
Being educated?
No, education doesn't.
If you haven no desire whatsoever to ever learn anything, then i can guarantee to an absolute certainty, and without fear of contradiction, that learning of any kind whatsoever will never, ever come to you.
And if you never learn anything, then you can never know anything.
And so you get to stay ignorant forever.
If, like yourself, you oppose education in and of itself, then there is quite literally no conceivable possible way that you ever can be, nor ever will be, educated.
If, like yourself, you are opposed to intellect, and indeed to the very concept of knowledge, then you could never, ever be anything even remotely approaching being considered "intelligent" by any reasonable definition of that term.
In order to be intelligent, you have to know facts.
You have repeatedly demonstrated your religious-fundamentalism-motivated anti-education and anti-intellectual ideology's diametric opposition to the concept of facts, and your more general zealotry against the idea of learning.
If you don't believe in facts, as you have repeatedly demonstrably shown yourself not to, then you can never know anything. - 1 year ago
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youre correct education doesnt come naturally, although something you sorely lack does, intelligence and common sense. but if one is genuinely happy and gets laid often, what more in life is there?
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wow, you know more words than i do. you win!
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congoboy:
"you know more words than i do"
What's because i am educated, whereas your ignorant reactionary regressive anti-intellectualist ideology diametrically opposes the very idea and concept of education in and of itself in its entirety as a whole. - 1 year ago
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congoboy:
"although something you sorely lack does, intelligence and common sense"
This is not a sentence.
This is a non sequitur.
Care to try that again in english?"if one is genuinely happy...what more in life is there"
The correct term for what you call being "genuinely happy" is actually "blissfully oblivious"
Such oblivion derives from utter in-cognizance.
Empty-mindedness and happiness are not one and the same thing, nor are they interchangeable.
The reality is that you just simply don't know enough to really be happy.
In order to be happy, one must actually know how the world works and what is going on in it.
Paranoid delusional schizophrenic deranged insanity, or evangelical religious fundamentalist zealotry, does not qualify as that.
The fact is that you are "happy" for no other reason than only because you are ignorant.
You ask what more to life there is, and indeed you answer your own question.
We should all strive to be, as you say, "genuinely happy".
This requires each and every single one of us to learn as much as we possibly can about the world around us and its happenings.
It also, not coincidentally, requires that we utterly reject incognizant obliviousness outright, as being satisfied or contented with being ignorant will never gain us anything on our path to happiness.
So what else to life is there besides being incongnizantly oblivious?
There is learning.
And then, and only then, there is happiness. - 1 year ago
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wow, whatever you just said, my guess is that it is somehow a slam and an attempt to be offensive? so from what i gather you voted for obama and will do so again?
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who needs to know all about the world outside of my own? i enjoy a good beer, and get laid more than a man deserves. if there is more to happiness than that i would prefer my sweet ignorance thank you.
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congoboy:
Question: "who needs to know all about the world outside of my own"
Answer: Anyone who does not wish to remain ignorant and blind for the rest of their lives."if there is more to happiness than that i would prefer my sweet ignorance"
There can be no happiness without knowledge.
Stupidity is not happiness. - 1 year ago
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"so from what i gather you voted for obama and will do so again"
Once more again, its a little something we like to call "progress"
and it is something that is not, and indeed cannot be, gained from electing anti-government regressives to run our government.
Personally, i believe that opposing the idea and concept of governance in and of itself, as the reactionary regressive neoconservative Teabagging Party "Republican" GOP does, should, by all rights, automatically disqualify any given person from holding public office.
The simple reality is that It will gain us nothing to elect people who do not believe that this nation should be governed in any way at all to run this nation's government.
If anything, electing people who believe that the country should not be governed to govern the country is downright counterproductive.
The fact is that the reactionary regressive neoconservative Teabagging Party "Republican" GOP IS anti-government, as the Teabgging Party itself is and has always been since its invention.
Being anti-government is something which i earnestly and steadfastly believe should automatically disqualify and individual from ever being any part OF the government.
Again, electing people who are anti-government into our government can yield no good things.
Even if i had no other reason to vote to reelect the President of the United States (i have many, many more than that besides), i would still vote for Barack Obama for President merely because he is now, as he has been since this campaign began, the only candidate for the Presidency who actually earnestly believes that the United States of america should even have a government of any kind at all.
Being pro-government is one thing that i, personally, believe to be indispensable in any legitimate candidacy for the highest elected office IN government.
None of the other candidate for the Presidency (the rest being, to a man, Evangelical Religious Fundamentalist Neoconservative Teabagging Party Right-Wing "Republicans") believe that the United States of America should be governed in any way, nor (specifically in the case of Ron Paul in especial) that the United States of America should have a government of any kind.
Since, as i have stated repeatedly previously, i believe being opposed to governance, either in concept or in practice (or both), to disqualify one from being elected to or holding public elected government office, President Obama, being the only candidate for the Presidency who believes that the nation should, in fact, have a government and be governed, is thereby, as far as i can see, the only legitimate candidate for the elected public government office that is the Presidency of the United States of America.
Since there is, therefore, only one genuine and legitimate candidate for President, who to vote for in the election fo the office of the Presidency becomes self-evident.
It's a non-question.
There is only one candidate who believes that there should be a government.
Anyone who opposes government has no place in government.
ERGO: there is only one candidate for President.
If there is only one candidate, who else is there to vote for? - 1 year ago
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wow, youre as bad at misportraying the tea party and the right as the main stream media you choose to believe in. in short, the tea party and the right are not anti government they are anti nanny state government which is what progressives and many others on the left choose to prefer. why work hard for a living when those who do can provide you with your needs? its like the story of the ant and the grasshopper. the right being the ants and the left being the grasshoppers.
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pussy and beer. all a real man needs
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congoboy:
" the tea party are not anti government"
WRONG
The Teabagging Party is Anti-Tax.
To be anti-tax is to be anti-government, as there can be no government without taxes."nanny state government which is what progressives and many others on the left choose to prefer."
What the reactionary regressive neoconservative religious fundamentalist far right wing radically misdefines as being a "nanny-state" actually just so happens to be exactly precisely what the Constitution of the United States of America states is the purpose of any representative democratic government: "To Establish Justice" "To Ensure Domestic Tranquility", "To Promote the General Welfare", and "To Secure the Blessings of Liberty".
These are the functions of a government.
So really, what the reactionary regressive religious neoconservative "Republican" right wing is referring to by a "nanny state" is the institution of government in and of itself.
As you yourself have already previously repeatedly stated, what you call the "nanny state" is something that your fundamentalist reactionary regressive ideology diametrically opposes.
Since, according to the constitution, what you refer to at being the "nanny state" IS government itself, then being, as you have stated you are anti-"nanny-state" IS being anti-government.
So yes, the reactionary regressive neoconservative right wing IS anti-government. - 1 year ago
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just like most people of above average intelligence i know, you excel in one topic. the rest of the world is just media hand fed propaganda
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"most people of above average intelligence"
So by that you mean liberal progressives who vote democratic (who have been proven to be better educated) - 1 year ago
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FACT: Republicans are better educated then Democrats
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Education. Republicans are significantly more likely than Democrats to have 4-year college degrees. The trends for the years 1955 through 2004 are shown by gender in the graphs below, reproduced from a book published by Joseph Fried. These graphs depict r results obtained by Fried from the National Election Studies (NES) database http://www.usmessageboard.com/education/168013-republicans-are-better-educated-t... is a party gap: Republicans are more knowledgeable than Democrats. Republicans, on average, answered one more question correctly than Democrats (5.9 vs. 4.9 correct). These differences are partly a reflection of the demographics of the two groups: Republicans tend to be older, better educated and male, which are characteristics associated with political and economic knowledge. However, even when these factors are held constant, Republicans still know more than Democrats. Republicans are even more knowledgeable than Democrats on matters pertaining to Democrats: 48% of Republicans (vs. only 33% of Democrats) are able to identify Democrat Harry Reid as Senate majority leader. http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2010/02/03/republicans-are-smarter-than-d...
Republicans Report Much Better Mental Health Than Others
PRINCETON, NJ -- Republicans are significantly more likely than Democrats or independents to rate their mental health as excellent, according to data from the last four November Gallup Health and Healthcare polls. Fifty-eight percent of Republicans report having excellent mental health, compared to 43% of independents and 38% of Democrats. This relationship between party identification and reports of excellent mental health persists even within categories of income, age, gender, church attendance, and education.
The basic data -- based on an aggregated sample of more than 4,000 interviews conducted since 2004 -- are straightforward
http://www.gallup.com/poll/102943/republicans-report-much-better-mental-health-t... - 1 year ago
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congoboy:
"Republicans are significantly more likely than Democrats to have 4-year college degrees. "
This is factually incorrect.
Democrat Republican
College: 55% 45%
http://www.gallup.com/poll/112132/Election-Polls-Vote-Groups-2008.aspx"Republicans tend to be...better educated"
This, too, is factually incorrect:
Grad School: 67% 33%
Post Grad School: 65% 35%
http://www.gallup.com/poll/112132/Election-Polls-Vote-Groups-2008.aspx - 1 year ago
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only in your hypocritical, rewritten and misspoken world. now move on to one of my other posts. this one is old and i bore of it. i will not answer any more comments from you on this one my lost, self limiting, and non spirtual friend
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This is nothing but bull-crap! If Conservatives are so happy, why don't they smile? Most of them have evil expressions on their faces, like Cheney, Mitch McConnel.
As far as giving to charity, I have never heard of any Conservative giving as much or more than Bill/Linda Gates/Warren Buffet. Ex-presidents Jimmy Carter, and Bill Clinton spend their time and money for the advancement of mankind, while the Bush Family is busy trying to cheat South Americans out of their land, and water rights.
Liberals try to feed the world's population, Conservatives starve them.
Liberals promotes the general welfare of the 99%, Conservatives cater to the top 1%.
Conservatives politicians are some of the most mean-spirited people in America, their policies speak loud and clear.
Blacks and no other sane American will buy into this Right-Wing propaganda. They must be extremely desperate to promote this nonsense.... - 1 year ago
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thanks for speaking out for black americans and others who rely on you to do so since they are incapable of voicing it themsleves
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Wow! Is there no end to the mindless, meaningless, empty dribble that spews fourth from so many of those of the Leftist ilk? I have no clue where this creaton got the idiotic points for this ignorant and verbose rant, but geeze, would be nice if we could all just stick to the facts.
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congoboy:Wow! Is there no end to the mindless, meaningless, empty dribble that spews fourth from so many of those of the Leftist ilk? I have no clue where this creaton got the idiotic points for this ignorant and verbose rant, but geeze, would be nice if we could all just stick to the facts.
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bullshit would be the more appropriate term, if it applied
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Why are they super imposing a picture of Newt on the democrats? This makes no sense.
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That's not Gingrich, silly.
It's Boehner. - 1 year ago
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Surprise! The National Review, a right wing conservative rag, is bad mouthing liberals.
Merry Xmas Cogoscum - I hope you get the mental health care and medication you so desperately need.
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hmmm, no more or less accurate than the publications you choose to get your reliable info from. so whats the latest on that lohan chic anyway? merry christmas to you as well and i hope you find a real man to make you happy someday my depressing,unnatural, and in denial friend
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Liberals are empathetic.
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no doubt my enabling friend
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Liberals are Sympathetic.
Conservatives are Apathetic. - 1 year ago
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Conservatives are also more likely to be high income. If you earn less than $60,000 you are likely to be having financial challenges.
Conservatives are more likely to earn above that, oh, so important water mark.
Conservatives are less likely to be minorities, so they are less likely to feel oppressed due to race.
Conservatives are more likely to be religious which, I hate to say it, is more likely to leave people with happier outcomes. I tend to think that's because they are wooed into being complacent, but it is more likely the weekly social get-together that improves things the most.
Democrats are realists. We see, clear as day, a better world. We also see the failure of that world coming to pass because of conservative road blocks who " already got theirs."
Makes sense to me.
"suffering is inherent to human existence." The big difference between conservatives and liberals is that liberals have a problem exacerbating the condition. Conservatives don't care, as long as it isn't them who is suffering.
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exacerbating? i dont think thats legal in most states
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nyuk nyuk.
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"Conservatives are happier than liberals"
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/301/are-we-happy-yet
But did you ever take the time to bother to ask WHY that is?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24502967#.TuuqEiNWq7o
Yale University social psychologist Jaime Napier's work has convinced her conservatives are happier than liberals because they think there's equality of opportunity in America.
"One of the biggest correlates with happiness in our surveys was the belief of a meritocracy, which is the belief that anybody who works hard can make it. That was also one of the biggest predictors of political ideology. So, the conservatives were much higher on these meritocratic beliefs than liberals were."
Napier says American economic malaise of the past few decades disheartened everyone, but liberals most of all.
"So, everybody was decreasing in happiness as there was more inequality, but liberals to a significantly greater extent than conservatives."
[http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/icb.topic895260.files/Napier%20Jost%20Why%20Ar...]
Arthur Brooks, president of the conservative Washington think tank the American Enterprise Institute, and the author of "Gross National Happiness," agrees with Napier about the conservative happiness edge.
"It is true that conservatives tend to be less concerned about income inequality. The reason that conservatives tend to be less concerned with income inequality has to do with the fact that they see the world differently. Conservatives think that fairness is one in which outcomes are based on merit and people start with more or less equal opportunities. If you believe those things, and you see that some person makes more than others or the top 1 percent is breaking away than the bottom 99 percent, that's not going to affect your happiness very much at all."
[http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2008/05/05/why-conservatives-say-th...]
But with the average wage flatlined and more than 28 million Americans still jobless or underemployed, do merit and hard work really drive success these days?
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business/july-dec11/makingsense_12-09.html - 1 year ago
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its also because we tend to see our glasses half full whereas the liberals tend to see theirs half empty. optimism=happy pessimism=unhappy
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Judgian12365:
Congrats Ian, you stuck something on the wall that is informative! I have one point to make, and there will be no bloviating on my part, first I'll include a clip from your fine research:
"It is true that conservatives tend to be less concerned about income inequality. The reason that conservatives tend to be less concerned with income inequality has to do with the fact that they see the world differently. Conservatives think that fairness is one in which outcomes are based on merit and people start with more or less equal opportunities. If you believe those things, and you see that some person makes more than others or the top 1 percent is breaking away than the bottom 99 percent, that's not going to affect your happiness very much at all."
This being said, conservative/normal people, as with wild animals, are not concerned about what the other guy has, they are concerned with themselves and their own survival. If a bear is fatter than all the other bears when they go into hybernation, the other bears could care less, they are all about to go through the same thing, and next year they will remember to fatten up better. As with natural human behavior and the laws of nature, we all want to take care of ouselves and pay our own bills, not everyone elses, and we don't really care how easy it is for the next guy to pay his bills. When you have that outlook, it is understandable why "conservatives" are much happier than those with left leaning tendencies. Chow
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It's not like it comes from nowhere.
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"normal people, as with wild animals, are not concerned about what the other guy has"
If that were true the entire capitalist economic system as we know it would collapse. - 1 year ago
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Well, you know what they say:
An optimist will tell you that the glass is half-full.
A pessimist says the glass is half-empty.
A pragmatist/realist knows that the glass is twice as big as it needs to be. - 1 year ago
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then they should look at the federal budget in the same way.
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"then they should look at the federal budget in the same way."
You mean the United States Federal Government Annual monetary Budget, over 53% ($600+ Billion [As of FY 2008 (not including 2 previously unpaid-for wars in Iraq & Afghanistan] of which goes to the Department of Defense (the most wasteful government agency in history) alone?
The budget of which Health ($62 Billion [5% A/O FY 2008]) and Education ($54 Billion [3% A/O FY 2008]) put together combined are less than one tenth?
You mean THAT Federal Budget?
Since more than half of it goes out the window right straight away off the bat, I think its safe to say it's always halfway empty (the DOD drinks half the water each and every single year) - 1 year ago
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yup the very same one. your buddy in the white house sure likes keepin that afghan thing goin as well as keeping up justifiable torture for enemy combatants. one of the few policies i admire him for. peace
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"your buddy in the white house sure likes keepin that afghan thing goin "
Defense secretary announces billions in budget cuts
January 06, 2011|
From Charley Keyes, CNN Sr. National Security Producer
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-01-06/politics/pentagon.budget.cuts_1_defense-budge...:POLITICSPentagon anticipates $78B in budget cuts
Defense secretary announces plan to shrink military's ground force by tens of thousands
msnbc.com news services
updated 1/6/2011 5:04:15 PM ET
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40944519/ns/politics-more_politics/t/pentagon-antici....TvBGhiNWq7oPentagon anticipates $78B in budget cut
By ANNE FLAHERTY - Associated Press,ANNE GEARAN - Associated Press | AP – Thu, Jan 6, 2011
http://news.yahoo.com/pentagon-anticipates-78b-budget-cut-20110106-114723-796.ht...Robert Gates, Defense Secretary, Talks Pentagon Budget Cuts
ROBERT BURNS 05/24/11 04:10 PM ET
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/24/robert-gates-pentagon-budget-cuts_n_866...Well...It's a start at least.
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thanks ian, youre a constant reminder as to why i never date english majors
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true enough -I personally just think both approaches have strengths and weakness. +^d
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I have read short essays/reports to that effect. +^d
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"youre a constant reminder as to why i never date english majors"
You don't date English majors because anyone with the intellect of an english major is smart enough to know better than to associate with someone as ignorant and bigoted as you. - 1 year ago
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hey, women are women, intelligent or otherwise and it doesnt matter to color or race. ive been persued, ive chased, and catered to many. they always leave happy:)
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"women are women, intelligent or otherwise"
Yes, but the intelligent ones generally don't find themselves to be all that particularly attracted to an willfully-ignorant and militantly bigoted misogynistic religious fundamentalist far-right-wing zealot (such as yourself) who fervently and unwaveringly believes, for no particular readily apparent rational reason whatsoever, that all women are inherently inferior, in whatever way, to himself and all others of his particular gender identification and sexual orientation; and that all those of his particular gender are, somehow, inherently superior to all those who would find themselves attracted to them for whatever reason." they always leave happy"
Or maybe they're just too afraid for their own health, safety and well being, of offending a potentially-violent pathologically willfully blindly ignorant and bigoted misogynistic xenophobic militant religious fundamentalist paranoid delusional schizophrenic reactionary sadistic misanthropic psychotic sociopathic far radical right wing extremist zealot such as yourself to dare risking appearing displeased with you in any way while still in your presence.
Just some thoughts for you to ponder over
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so its not just the explosive multiple orgasms that keep them happy and coming back then? then it must be my wit, humor, and ability to cook like a chef. but its been my experience that the more intelligent women arent bigoted lock stepping partisans like yourself. you'd probably finally lose your virginity if you took a few lessons on how to treat women from me
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"if you took a few lessons on how to treat women from me"
You mean treating them like your inferiors?
or treating them like second-class people?
or just denying that they are your equals?
What lessons could i learn from your bigoted xenophobic sexist misogyny?
I'd quite frankly rather not learn to be a sexist misogynist like yourself, if that's alright with you. - 1 year ago
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Judgian12365:
in bed some men are created more equal than others, but i treat all women equally and respectfully. most women enjoy a man who can take charge over an ultra sensitive effeminate metrosexual, although a good dominatrix can be fun from time to time. either way, real women prefer real men who can lead the way to real freedom and if im happy and theyre happy who are you or i to complain? merry CHRISTmas!
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congoboy:
" i treat all women equally and respectfully"
Just not equally to men, and not respectfully enough to consider them as worthy as yourself."real women prefer real men who can lead the way to real freedom"
Just not the freedom to make their own decisions. - 1 year ago
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boy you have a lot to learn about women, they are not equal to men, in many ways they are superior to men and im just the guy to show them how. but hey, i dont make them fuck me. its their own personal decision and a freedom of choice they never forget nor regret
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congoboy:
"in many ways they are superior to men"
so being capable of making their own decision for themselves just isn't one among those ways?"its their own personal decision and a freedom of choice"
You just don't believe that they should get to make the same decisions about their lives and their bodies that men get to make. - 1 year ago
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wow, you are one powerful propaganda machine. good work
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congoboy:
I am correct in stating you are anti-choice, as that is what you have repeatedly stated throughout our exchanges in the past.
The anti-choice argument, at its core, essentially boils down to the concept that women are incapable of making the same decisions about their lives, their futures, their families, their health, their safety, their well-being, and their bodies that men make on a very nearly daily basis; and so women must have someone else (namely the government) make such decisions for them.
For example, the ideology, now put into law in several states, of forcing women to wait a number of days or weeks after seeking to end a pregnancy before recieving the life-saving pregnancy termination procedure is founded upon the idea that any women wishing to terminate an unwanted pregnancy does not really actually know what she is doing, and must be forced, by law, to take a predetermined set amount of time to think about it.
Likewise, the ideology, instituted into the laws of several states, of forcing women to sit through, watch, and listen to a religiously-motivated scientifically-unfoundded and factually baseless reactionary regressive right being ideological lecture from an anti-choice activist before being considered for the life-saving ending of an unwanted pregnancy is similarly based in the concept that women seeking such procedures have not really thought about what they are doing, or worse, do not actually know what it is that they really want.
In both cases, quite literally nothing could possibly be any further from the truth.
So both ideological zealotry-driven doctrines exhibit a dogmatic and bigoted xenophobic misogyny on the part of male lawmakers and legislators.
In addition to the bombing of medical health care clinics and the assassination of medical doctors inside of churches, the anti-choice movement, which you have consistently and repeatedly subscribed yourself to, in your very own words, has now most recently moved beyond merely prohibiting the life-saving terminations of unwanted pregnancies, to criminalizing the use of medically-prescribed contraceptives and birth control medications.
This is based in no small part on the conceptualization that women who get pregnant against their will should not have the same rights to make the same decisions as to whether or not to have children as every single man in the world does.
There is no man who has ever been legally forced, under penalty of criminal persecution, to have a child.
Yet that is exactly precisely what the anti-choice movement that you yourself personally subscribe to advocates for every single woman in the United States of America.
I can therefore state as a provable demonstrable fact, and without fear of reasonable or rational contradiction, that you, like all you subscribe to your religious-fundamentalism-motivated reactionary zealotry, ARE a bigoted xenophobic misogynist. - 1 year ago
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again, wrong, wrong and wrong again. you learn well grasshopper from your media gods in misrepresenting and misportraying either intentionally or through your own ingnorance the intent of not only myself but the right in general. my prediction is that with the presidential election less than a year away the main strem media and ignorant selfish, self centered folks like yourself with no real knowledge outside of your self prescribed mastery of the english language will turn up the rhetorical volume of unabashedly bashing the right. this worthless tactic is often used to disparage conservatives in an election year in an attempt to sway public opinion. this is a losing proposition being that the left are already indoctrinated and manipulated by their leadership into believing said leadership actually care beyond their own megalomanical desire to stay in power at any cost, the right who already are aware of the presses leftest leanings and cannot be tricked into voting a liberal ticket and the independents who are smarter than both parties and tend to vote for who they believe to be the best candidate based on research and candidate record as opposed to walking in lockstep and voting with a particular partisanship. i have always said that a womans decision to murder her baby was between her, god, her significant other and her doctor. as it is the mans responsibility to provide an effective means of birth control and to provide a safe sexual environment i have always advocated the use of and have personally used condoms unless any of the particular woman ive encountered prefered their own method. but since pumping artificial hormones into ones body is not only stupid but dangerous i still believe its the mans duty to use the safest method of safe sex and birth control, the condom. in my opinion if a man gets a woman pregnant then he should take the honorable approach and take responsibility for that child and should be legally forced, under penalty of criminal persecution, to have and support said child. most of us arent anti choice as the leftylibs prefer to falsely portray the right. we are pro life as we hold it dear to our hearts as opposed to the left, the worshippers of death. everyone is bigoted to one degree or another so this tired old label thrown about by liberals should be put to rest as it is hypocritical to continue using it as an empty weapon. also your misportrayal of me being a misogynist has repeatedly been disproven as ive explained to you my love of all women and all those who have ever had the pleasure of my company will attest to as well. most real women prefer a man to care for them and grasp them gently by the hand and take charge as opposed to having some metrosexual pansy as a bff, its called chivilry and honest, real women prefer it. i also have no unreasonable fear of foreigners nor do i fear any man. most who are honest though do believe we need to take proper measures to protect innocent american citizenry from those who wish to do us harm even if it requires a bit of profiling. that is not Xenophobia, it is common sense, something you and most on the left sorely lack. peace
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congoboy:
First of all, proper english language spelling grammar, punctuation, and capitalization never hurt anyone.
Secondly:
" i have always said that a womans decision to murder her baby was between her, god, her significant other and her doctor."
1.) No, actually you haven't always said that, as you have repeatedly and explicitly identified yourself as being what you laughably refer to as "pro-life" (if you were really pro-life, then you would be pro-abortion, since abortion saves lives). To you, being "pro-life" means being anti-choice (in reality, quite literally nothing could possibly b any further from the truth, as quite the opposite is, in fact, true: being pro-choice IS being pro-life).
2.) "murder her baby"
In the english language, the word "baby" is used o describe avery young child. Likewise, the word "child" describes a person between birth and adulthood. So no, ending an unwanted pregnancy is not "murdering a baby", since there will no baby until AFTER it is born, and pregnancy termination occurs many months before birth occurs.
3.) "God" does not enter into it anywhere, as no such thing exists.
4.) The "significant other", unless that just so happens to also be a woman herself as well (which is improbable), should not have any part to play in the process either, as decisions regarding the health of the woman in question are up to her and her alone to decide.
5.) The doctor only role in the process should be a purely professional one, in that he is the one who performs the medical procedure when the woman decides to have it done, and does so without questioning the woman's decision, as that would be a fairly blatant violation of professional medical ethics."effective means of birth control...i have always advocated the use of and have personally used"
So i take it then that you do not support any of the several neoconservative "Republican" candidates for the Presidency who have explicitly thrown their personal endorsements behind state laws to criminalize the use of contraceptives and birth control medications?
That wouldn't leave on with very many options.
In terms of candidates, especially."pumping artificial hormones into ones body is not only stupid but dangerous"
WRONG
There is no scientific or medical evidence to support this claim."the safest method of safe sex and birth control, the condom"
Actually, the safest method is a combination of contraceptives, birth control medications, and male and female condoms.
Condoms are prone to failure, and without other forms of birth control, such a condom failure could have tragic consequences."if a man gets a woman pregnant then he should take the honorable approach and take responsibility for that child and should be legally forced, under penalty of criminal persecution, to have and support said child"
UNLESS, the woman chooses not to have the child, a decision that he should have no part in.Thirdly:
"we are pro life as we hold it dear to our hearts as opposed to the left, the worshippers of death."
You are going to have to explain this one to me, (if you can).
First of all, you are going to have to explain just how exactly being a "worshipper of death" meets the definition of the world "liberal"?
Secondly, by "worshippers of death", are you referring to Christians, who worship the crucifix, an ancient Roman method of brutal, savage, and barbaric torture and execution (as well as ancient Egyptian symbol of death and the underworld)?
Third off, if you "hold life dear to your hearts" does that include ALL life?
For example, do you by chance hold the lives of Malaria Parasites, which kill more people than all diseases combined, "dear to your heart"?
->Do you hold the lives of leaches and mosquitoes, which feed on human blood, "dear to you heart"?
->Do you hold the lives of lampreys, which drain their unsuspecting victims of all bodily fluids while they are still alive, "dear to your heart"?
->Do you hold the "life" of the flu virus "close to your heart"?
->Do you hold the lives of cancerous tumors "close to your heart"?
->Do you, by chance hold the "life" of the Human Immunodeficiency Virus, which causes Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome, "close to your heart"?
Fourthly, if you are saying that the "pro-life" movement holds life dear, i have evidence that proves otherwise: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence"your misportrayal of me being a misogynist has repeatedly been disproven as ive explained to you my love of all women"
You do not believe women to be your equals.
You therefore believe that women are, somehow, inherently inferior to yourself for some reason.
So yes, you ARE, by definition, a sexist misogynist."most real women prefer a man to take charge"
I would like to see your evidence to support this claim, as i do not believe that most people, women included, would, given any other choice, "prefer" to be subjugated or submissive to anyone else.
I'm pretty sure that goes against human nature."its called chivilry"
BTW: FYI: "chvlry" is not a word in the english language (nor in any other that i am aware of)
And no, "taking charge" of women is most definitively NOT "chivalry" [which is, i believe, what you meant to write, is it not?]
Chivalry is generosity.
"Taking charge" of someone, unless they happen to be a very young child, is definitely NOT a generous thing to do."everyone is bigoted to one degree or another"
WRONG
Actually, the words "bigoted liberal" an oxymoronic contradiction in terms.
Also, you will notice that i explicitly used the term "dogmatic bigotry".
This therefore applies solely and exclusively to religious fundamentalist zealots such as yourself, and not to those who lack any such irrational, borderline insane/schizophrenic, belief system, such as myself."we need to take proper measures to protect innocent american citizenry from those who wish to do us harm even if it requires a bit of profiling. that is not Xenophobia, it is common sense, "
Profiling, which, as i have already demonstrated, has been proven NOT to keep people safe.
I ahve already shown the poof that profiling does not protect anyone.
So yes, that IS, in fact, xenophobic, as the only rationalization for the use of demonstrably ineffective profiling is, as you put it, and " unreasonable fear of foreigners". There quite simply can be no other conceivable justification of profiling which has been shown not to work. - 1 year ago
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wrong again on all accounts. for someone without any experience with women, what would you know? comparing human life to parasites and viruses is stupid. you havent proven anything other than you have an opinion. you as anyone are welcome to your opinion but it doesnt make you right. as i stated before, beyond your self imposed mastery of the english language you know nothing. see you in the after life my ignorant and self centered friend
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congoboy:
"again, wrong, wrong and wrong again."
"wrong again on all accounts"
Please cite to me one thing that i have stated that is factually inaccurate or incorrect.
i can wait."someone without any experience with women, what would you know"
Religious-fundamentalist-zealotry-motivated Bigoted xenophobic sexist misogyny does not count as "experience"."comparing human life to parasites and viruses is stupid"
What's the difference?
So... You're NOT "Pro-Life"?"see you in the after life"
No such thing exists. - 1 year ago
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"in many ways women are superior to men"
So, if it is men who are inferior to women, then it should be men who should be having their life-saving reproductive health care services and right to private personal individual independent choice taken away instead of women. - 1 year ago
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"in many ways they are superior to men and im just the guy to show them how"
If they are our superiors, then they shouldn't need to be "shown" anything by one of their inferiors. - 1 year ago
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Judgian12365:
as i said, you know nothing about women.
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Judgian12365:
nice spin
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