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How Ayn Rand Seduced Generations of Young Men and Helped Make the U.S. Into a Selfish, Greedy Nation |

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Ayn Rand’s “philosophy” is nearly perfect in its immorality, which makes the size of her audience all the more ominous and symptomatic as we enter a curious new phase in our society….To justify and extol human greed and egotism is to my mind not only immoral, but evil.— Gore Vidal, 1961

Thanks in part to Rand, the United States is one of the most uncaring nations in the industrialized world.

Only rarely in U.S. history do writers transform us to become a more caring or less caring nation. In the 1850s, Harriet Beecher Stowe (1811-1896) was a strong force in making the United States a more humane nation, one that would abolish slavery of African Americans. A century later, Ayn Rand (1905-1982) helped make the United States into one of the most uncaring nations in the industrialized world, a neo-Dickensian society where healthcare is only for those who can afford it, and where young people are coerced into huge student-loan debt that cannot be discharged in bankruptcy.

Rand’s impact has been widespread and deep. At the iceberg’s visible tip is the influence she’s had over major political figures who have shaped American society. In the 1950s, Ayn Rand read aloud drafts of what was later to become Atlas Shrugged to her “Collective,” Rand’s ironic nickname for her inner circle of young individualists, which included Alan Greenspan, who would serve as chairman of the Federal Reserve Board from 1987 to 2006.

In 1966, Ronald Reagan wrote in a personal letter, “Am an admirer of Ayn Rand.” Today, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) credits Rand for inspiring him to go into politics, and Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) calls Atlas Shrugged his “foundation book.” Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) says Ayn Rand had a major influence on him, and his son Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) is an even bigger fan. A short list of other Rand fans includes Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas; Christopher Cox, chairman of the Security and Exchange Commission in George W. Bush’s second administration; and former South Carolina governor Mark Sanford.

But Rand’s impact on U.S. society and culture goes even deeper.

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63 comments // How Ayn Rand Seduced Generations of Young Men and Helped Make the U.S. Into a Selfish, Greedy Nation |

  • Leen61
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      Leen61  
    • I hate this douchebag. It's very frightening that she has once again become popular. The new Republicans have totally embraced her. This is where the horrible attitude of this country is coming from. The mindset of..."Well, if the 99% don't have a job, it's their fault. Let them starve and be homeless. We don't want OUR money spent to help THEM!" This is also the mindset of Scott Walker supporters. And it doesn't matter to them that this woman was a hypocrite...because in the end, she used the safety nets....Social Security and Medicare. Her ethics, or lack of, don't matter to them. It's just her IDEAS they are drawn to. That's why I now see her books in the homes of the Reps I clean for. Great post, Vierotchka.

    • 1 year ago
  • PeteLeS33
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      PeteLeS33  
    • The original spin doctor. Rand never had an original thought in her life. If one can take the time and untwist her logic you would find that every one of her statements are from someone else. If her works were original there might not much hypocrisy.

    • 1 year ago
  • thedirtman
  • jahbini
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      jahbini  
    • Ayn Rand is basically an apologist for the great industrial and real estate barons of American history. Her philosophy creates the ambience that these guys are necessary for the functioning of society. Nothing would happen without them, and America would lose their "golden seeds:" The Brooklyn Bridge would not have been necessary unless the very few rich pushed it through AS IF it was necessary.

      Invention requires necessity, and for Ayn Rand, the commercial successes of the 0.001% are necessary for the benefit of the 99.999%

      For me, however, I'll take a beautiful sunset any day.

    • 1 year ago
  • remanns
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      remanns  
    • She pitched it about as well as it can be pitched. ( . . .not personally a big fan myself ) I personally want to read the short story where Conan has a pit fight with Gault.

    • 1 year ago
  • ghostofamerica
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      ghostofamerica  
    • honestly now, i am so sick of conservatives pointing to ayn rand and saying,'see, look! thats what i'm talkin about', because i read ayn rand, and my take on atlas shrugged was that it picked apart both parties and took sides with no one. it clearly pointed out to me that all forms of bureaucracy are bloated and corrupt, detriment to society especially the greedy and formally useless republican and democrat parties. Conservative perspective is flawed in adopting ayn rand as a champion, from my perspective she held them in perfect disdain.

    • 1 year ago
  • tverdell
  • VFORVENDETTA
  • Vierotchka
    • +3
      Vierotchka  
    • VFORVENDETTA:

      You're welcome. No, Ayn Rand wasn't mentally ill, she was a psychopath/sociopath. Psychopathy and sociopathy are not mental illnesses, they are severe personality disorders. Mental illnesses can be treated, controlled with medication, and even cured, but psychopathy and sociopathy cannot.

    • 1 year ago
  • ghostofamerica
  • remanns
  • VFORVENDETTA
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      VFORVENDETTA  
    • Vierotchka:

      Actually I retract that statement, since I am very knowledgeable of sociopathic personality disorder,(I'm very familiar with the work of Dr. Robert H. Hare, who created The Psychopathic Checklist, that when utilized by competent psychiatric professionals, is considered a very reliable methodology for determining if a given individual has that personality disorder) I guess I was either tired or lazy.

      Just as a side note-this coming from the research of Dr. Hare-as part of his research, the test was administered to a very broad base of individuals, from all social and economic walks of life, what was discovered, was that a very large percentage of those involved in Fortune 500 companies, meaning the movers and shakers in the very upper echelons of corporate management, and/or those who outright owned or were business partners in financial institutions or franchises, scored very high on the psychopathic checklist, indicating a correspondingly high potential of being sociopaths.

      The remaining of everything else you said, is also accurate and true, again thanks for the post, sorry for being mentally lazy.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
  • VaLady
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      VaLady  
    • Humans are born selfish, as the only viable model for self preservation immediately available (aside from being cute.). Most grow out of this by the time they're 10 or so, except self rewarding conservatives.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
  • Vierotchka
  • Vierotchka
  • Vierotchka
  • VFORVENDETTA
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      VFORVENDETTA  
    • VaLady:

      The overwhelming evidence of psychological studies, demonstrates quite the contrary, meaning you are patently wrong, I have no idea where you're getting these notions from, but you might want to try closely examining your sources of information, I can guarantee with a great deal of certainty, you'll find those sources wanting in scientific methodology.

    • 1 year ago
  • Milieu
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      Milieu  
    • You can see much of Rand's influence in the writings of Robert Anson Heinlein.

      "I am God. Thou art God." Stranger In A Strange Land

    • 1 year ago
  • cherry5000
  • Vierotchka
  • tverdell
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      tverdell  
    • I don't think any of these people have read Ayn Rand.

      There is no way so-called Christian could follow her tenets. They are liars and are just invoking her name because they think its the cool thing to do.

    • 1 year ago
  • JakeMcCullough
  • tverdell
  • hammywill
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      hammywill  
    • She didn't seduce anyone. She gave a lot of people a bunch of pseudo-intellectual ammunition with which to JUSTIFY their already inherent greedy nature.

    • 1 year ago
  • AdrianMonk
  • Incredulous
  • hammywill
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      hammywill  
    • Incredulous:

      I was more trying to make a point that these asshole were already selfish and greedy, and now have some sort of intellectually hidden justification.

      One thing I have found to be a truism is a fairly common religious (spiritual and philosophical) axiom "you reap what you sew." If one "sews" greed and selfishness then one "reaps" greed and selfishness. When one "sews" generosity and abundance one "reaps" generosity and abundance. This has been true in MY experience.

    • 1 year ago
  • hammywill
  • Vierotchka
  • bourneverde
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      bourneverde  
    • hammywill:

      Bro... I tend to agree with most of your views, and I understand what you're saying, but I just think it's a terribly cynical assertion. A well stated and almost entirely correct statement, but you loose me at "inherent greedy nature". Call it naivete, but I haven't resigned myself to believing everyone is born greedy,

    • 1 year ago
  • hammywill
  • hammywill
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      hammywill  
    • bourneverde:

      I didn't mean that as a blanket assertion that everyone is inherently greedy. I only meant that those who espouse and latch on to Ayn Rand's philosophies are inherently greedy.

    • 1 year ago
  • bourneverde
  • jim_b
  • joeredford
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      joeredford [removed]  
    • A selfish woman espousing a selfish theory who in the end took advantage of every social program she professed to despise. She was a genuine hypocrite and her name should be beside the definition of the word in every dictionary in the world. Pusuing a life of ego indulgence is not a legitimate philosophy, it is merely a rationalization for one's own greed and justification for ignoring the cries for help from the rest of humanity.
      We are here to help each other through this life, without that life means nothing.

    • 1 year ago
  • PetEr_Alan_ColE
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      PetEr_Alan_ColE  
    • So let me get this right, you folks are blaming them for forcing their ideology on you. Yet, you all seem to want to force your own ideology on everyone else.

    • 1 year ago
  • AdrianMonk
  • PetEr_Alan_ColE
  • HarukoHaruhara
    • +7
      HarukoHaruhara  
    • Hey, I read Lord of the Rings when I was young, but then I grew up and realized hobbits and elves aren't real.

      People who still buy into Ayn Rand as adults are like those guys who hang out at Renaissance Faires.

    • 1 year ago
  • thinkingfree
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      thinkingfree  
    • There is no book that has wrought more evil in this world than the Bible. The Protestants gave us capitalism and together we have declined ever since. We have found ways to live longer but to what end? You are what you read, careful of what you believe.

    • 1 year ago
  • AdrianMonk
  • thinkingfree
    • +2
      thinkingfree  
    • AdrianMonk:

      I suppose one could describe me as an atheist, I refrain from putting a label on myself. If anything just an observer. A friend of mine who is Jewish, describes the Bible also as a book of parables. I asked my father when I was a kid what in fact was the Bible? His reply was "just another Aesop's Fables", so much for my background in theology. He worked on the Manhattan Project. My take on religion is an instrument that has stalled mankinds efforts to aspire to greater things than any other force wrought by man himself. Just imagine where we could be if not for the Dark Ages? We still suffer from the influence of the Puritans and their guilt conscience, and the Protestants have brought us to calamity. My point is there is nothing in the Bible we couldn't have figured out otherwise, we don't give ourselves enough credit for all the things we have accomplished and all we could do in the name of the human spirit. There's a ton of literature out there worth reading that owes nothing to mans delusional belief in a boogeyman.

    • 1 year ago
  • sharin
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      sharin  
    • thinkingfree:

      Religious zealots and their interpretation of the bible have indeed wrought far too much evil and destruction upon the world in "the name of God" (as they like to say). The book is not to blame but the interpretation thereof.
      I once had a conversation with a "spiritual healer". I told this woman I didn't believe in a physical place called "hell" and that every reference to such a place in her holy book was a parable. She kept slapping her bible on the palm of her had and saying "it's in the book" to which I would say "please show me" - and of course, every example she showed me was a parable. She became exasperated and gave up trying to prove me wrong. Instead she said "Let's (her sponsor was standing there with us)pray for Sharon that she will be shown hell".... needless to say I took my hands away from these two, "no thanks", and walked away

    • 1 year ago
  • PetEr_Alan_ColE
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      PetEr_Alan_ColE  
    • And which book is too blame for the left wing nanny state way of thinking? The book made them do it. The government needs to regulate books now!!

    • 1 year ago
  • FacePalm
  • PetEr_Alan_ColE
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      PetEr_Alan_ColE  
    • FacePalm:

      You are free to give your money away or help out society in anyway you choose. You should not need a government to tell you this

      Not getting much done on the internet are you? There are many things you could be doing now besides surfing the web.

    • 1 year ago
  • jim_b
  • hombre76
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      hombre76  
    • shit your gona have to go back a lot furrther to find the root of the evil that plauges this nation with the greed and selfish uncaring attitude. try manifest destiny to start.

    • 1 year ago
  • jubal
  • treewolf39
  • Vierotchka
  • PetEr_Alan_ColE
  • FacePalm
  • MSII
  • MSII
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      MSII  
    • PetEr_Alan_ColE:

      Since the Wrong-wingers in their evil and insanity have turned regulators into "the friends" of those they regulate, into the supporters (where they haven't simply succeeded in eliminating any real regulation entire), and even promoters (like they did with the FDA).

    • 1 year ago
  • PetEr_Alan_ColE
  • hammywill
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      hammywill  
    • PetEr_Alan_ColE:

      This is because despite the misguided notion by those on the left that deregulation ruined everything in the economy. And the right's notion that government regulations are what ruined the economy. The fact is every single facet of our government is regulated to benefit the corporate owners in this country. USDA regulations are NOT designed to keep your medicine safe. That is your error in interpreting the efficacy of the USDA. The USDA does it's job quite well, unfortunately the job of the USDA is to aid Pharmaceutical companies in making as much profit as is humanly possible. There are absolutely NO market regulations designed to aid the consumer or the worker, though they are made to appear as such.

    • 1 year ago
  • PetEr_Alan_ColE
  • MSII
    • +1
      MSII  
    • PetEr_Alan_ColE:

      I know the republi-thugs are yes. Just as they're so deeply entrenched with wall-street, and well of course it goes without saying the militar-industiral-contractor crowd (what we used to call war profiteering, and used to be called treason).

    • 1 year ago
  • MSII
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      MSII  
    • hammywill:

      I believe there was a time when regulatory organizations actually were meant to protect people. You know before "saint-reagan" decided no, they should be all about promoting the industries they were originally intended to regulate. It never ceases to amaze me how the wrong-wingers who consistently claim to be good, true christians are really all about the fundamentalist worship of Mammon-god-money.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vic_Romano
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