You Like Ron Paul Except For His Foreign Policy?

Don't be rediculous! Radical Islamist attacks upon the United States are principally because of a long pattern of the U.S. installing and propping up oppressive and exploitive regimes within the middle east, for the singular purpose of providing preferential access to cheap crude for the Oil Industry. Historical U.S. support for Israel has been entirely predicated upon Israel's usefulness to the U.S. in their effort to insure the flow of crude to Big Oil. Israel has been used as a tool of convenience, and radical Islamist resentment of the U.S., relative to Israel, is because of the U.S. maintaining and using that tool, to the disadvantageous net effect of the people of the middle east. If I were a middle eastern native, I too would have uncontrollable hate and disgust for the Corporate United States and it's policies of exploitive death and destruction throughout the middle east!

Sorry, I can't agree, you give extremists too much credit for a convoluted reason to hate Jews. The hate is much more basic then an issue with oil, oil from which most Arabs don't even benefit from. The hatred of Jews goes wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy back.

Unfortunately we don't live in a vacuum. We can't just cover our heads with a blanket and hope the rest of the world leaves us alone. We are a part of this world and like it or not we have our part to play. Disengaging or basically taking our ball and going home is just not feasible in the world we live in today. We must engage the rest of the world in a responsible way that respects their sovereignty while at the same time protecting our interests.

In addition our support of Israel had nothing to do with our support of Israel. It had everything to do with our military presence in what is considered to be the "holy land" in Saudi Arabia after the first gulf war. Don't distort history.

so you got to visit the great beyond and ask the jihadis why they did it now?
what else does your crystal ball say?

out of curiosity, is this really the position you want to take?
cuz they hate the jews, we shouldnt be allies of the jews for the fear they may attack us for it?really?
so in ww2 instead of being some one who helped jews escape, your position would have been to not help them cuz the nazis hate them and you dont want to get on the wrong side of the nazis out of fear?

glad to see terrorism is starting to work, you must be proud

I couldn't agree with you more!

How are his policies right for the wrong reasons? Please explain

How are his policies retarded?

He basically doesn't even like Medicare, Social Security, on and on!

Lest I am mistaken, Ron Paul is for severe deregulation of the economy. Meaning, little or no government regulation of banks, big businesses, or corporations. We do not need less regulation on those entities. When regulations on banks, big businesses and corporations were last lessened we got a recession because banks, big businesses and corporations did really stupid shit in order to make a quick profit at the cost of their long term well being.

What is so great about Medicare and social security? They sound great in theory, but last time I checked they are unsustainable and about to bankrupt our entire country. Shouldn't I be able to opt out of social security, since I will never see a dime of it anyway? Social Security is the government forcing its citizens to pay into a retirement account that they will NEVER be able to collect from. Social Security is a PONZI SCHEME by definition, paying back old investors with new investors' money. I am not saying eliminate SS, but major reforms are needed, and only Ron Paul has the BALLS to do it.

Well, the President has no power to change any of those Not that I'm a Pauliak, but his domestic ideas are more realisitic than his foreign policy opinions! His mentality is what got us involved in WW1, and again in WW2, much later than we should have been, and it drove up the cost of those wars, both in lives and treasure.

There were plenty of regulations in place prior to the 2008 financial collapse, how did they help? The problem is that the Government regulatory agencies are all run by current or ex-employees of the industries that they are regulating. For example, most high ranking employees of the Department of Agriculture are former employees and lobbyists for MONSANTO. The SEC and the White House cabinet are almost exclusively tied to banks and financial institutions, the very same ones who got BAILOUTS with your tax money. Ron Paul was against ALL BAILOUTS.

Of course we shouldn't scrap all regulations, but something is terribly wrong with our current system. More regulations are not the answer, it goes much deeper. As long as our elected officials are so easily corruptible, all the regulations in the world won't save us.

That's why I'm voting for him. PADDLE your own canoe.

There were plenty of financial regulations in place prior to 2008... I suppose that is technically correct since the eight years before 2001 were before 2008. Bush deregulated the financial sector to the point where banks could give out balloon loans, and lowered taxes and regulations on companies and corporations in order to encourage them to keep jobs within our borders (which worked about as well as basting a baby in barbecue sauce to keep it safe around a pack of hungry bears).

As for Ron Paul being against all bailouts, bully for him, but we needed those bailouts. We just needed them with actual restrictions and REGULATIONS on how corporations, banks and big companies could spend them instead of just handing over the bailouts with no strings attached.

We needed the bailouts? How so? The banks kept foreclosing on people and still are not giving loans to people. How did the bailouts help us? For every big bank that would have failed, hundreds of SMALLER, LESS EVIL banks would open up in their place, and they actually might give loans to people... imagine that! Do you think the big banks give a shit about you or this country?

PS Have you heard of the "record breaking BONUSES" that were given to bank and wall street CEOs? Thank god we bailed out the banks right?

We PRIVATIZED profits for big corporations, then SOCIALIZED their losses

I don't mean to attack you or you position, just encouraging dialogue. thx

"We needed the bailouts? How so? The banks kept foreclosing on people and still are not giving loans to people. How did the bailouts help us?"

Unfortunately that goes strait to the point that we needed bailouts restrictions and REGULATIONS. Bush handed the banks, corporations, and big companies a blank check, as did Obama (though Obama at least had the moral decency to actually call the banks, corporations and big companies out on what they did after they did it). As for the big banks, they are, unfortunately, big employers. Had those big banks gone under, there would have been more unemployment added to the problem, and I'm not referring to bank managers or CEO's. I'm referring to tellers and people who do the actual grunt work at the bank.

As for hundreds of smaller, less evil, banks opening up, that still requires a very important issue to be resolved. Where would the money come from? It is true that the government could have given money to people to start their own smaller, less evil, banks, but without some kind of injection of revenue from the government, it is extremely unlikely that a large enough number of small banks would have opened up to meet the demand of the public.

"Do you think the big banks give a shit about you or this country?"

No, and there in lies the problem of either not regulating banks or corporations or not having strict enough regulations on banks or corporations. They are looking to make a profit whichever way that they can.

Yes, we did privatize profits while socializing corporate losses. Yes, that is fucked up. However, we had regulations in place that prevented or limited the idiotic business practices that got our economy in this mess before Bush took office.

Anyhow, keep going. I find this kind of discussion fun and informative.

Wrong!!!!!

Good for you, your entitled to vote for Mickey Mouse if you want! :)

You obviously don't know the definition of a Ponzi Scheme which by definition is fraudulent something social security is not. Social Security is more akin to insurance. What is so great about Medicare and SS? Are you joking? Hmmm, millions of retirees are able to feed themselves and have access to healthcare for a start. I agree we do need reform to social security, we need to raise the amount of income it is applied to. Take it all the way up to $500K.

that is your reply?

Yes that is my reply! Ron Paul has been a Libertarian, Texan, and worst of all a Republican that is against anything that is considered to be the Commons. If you need any further explanation as to what is the Commons I will explain that further. :)

No, Medicaid and SS are not about to bankrupt the country. Those are two institutions that US citizens pay money into via FICA taxes. However three major entities that suck money OUT of the system are the defense department, wealthy US citizens who refuse to pay a little more in taxes and large US corporations that pay zero taxes.

Rocky Anderson? Why?

Sums it up pretty well.

That is wrong, Ron Paul as president would show that his ideas are supported by we the people. It would help gain support for others within the political landscape. Your pessimistic attitude towards the power Ron Paul will have is sad at best. I'm sorry you have no hope for our country, but I refuse to give up. Don't just vote for someone based on some idea you have, that is based on some formula to their acceptance by who is in congress. I urge you to read this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powers_of_the_President_of_the_United_States

This is not the first time Paul has run for President...he ran in 1988 and in 2008...there are reasons why he was never able to get enough support to be a viable candidate...he does not have the ability to be a uniter...do do some research...

Mark is not wrong regarding Paul's relationship to the Reps and Dems...if the nature of the Congress doesn't change, he would have essentially no possibility of bringing about most of the foreign policy changes he and most of us would like to see...its against the dominant paradigm...that is paid for in full by the military industrial complex...

Im well aware of Ron Pauls history. His last run for president was a failure in large part to a lack of media coverage. This go around his supporters are not letting that happen. His past runs have nothing to do with this election other than give it strength. You unwillingness to believe in real change in our political structure is sad. Good luck living with that defeated mind set.

I am sure the good Doctor appreciates your blind allegiance...good luck with that...end of dicussion...:=)

Exactly! When will folks realize the President is an administrator, not a ruler! Laws and bills begin in the House and Senate! Remove the obstructionists in Congress and replace them with people with common sense and compassion..not with those who would stand back and watch Rome burn!

Your response is very articulate and insightful. End of discussion.

Please read this, and research the influence a United States president has on our nation, and the world. Anyone voting for our president should better understand the power our president has. Please it is very important.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powers_of_the_President_of_the_United_States

My point is, the president alone does have a great deal of influence and power. It was in response to your comment, which seemed to say the president had no power before congress had a say. I need no lessons on the roles of our branches of government. Thanks though.

Yes, Ron Paul is the man in the eyes of some, but when we place emphasis on the words "NO OTHER REASON" he clearly isn't the man! Sure, foreign policy is very important but its far from being the only problem we face in America! By keeping our noses out of the affairs of others will not solve poverty, the lack of health care, or the over abundance of greed in America! Ron Paul will never get my vote or the votes of anyone in my family!