Ron Paul the ANTI-Racist!
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I'm British but I hope to God this man wins. It's Ron Paul or goodbye USA.
FaithIsAccidental 29 minutes ago 17
Honestly, I firmly believe these absurd accusations are the best thing that can happen to Mr. Paul... the MSM will further be discredited and he'll finally be forced to take the gloves off so to speak, and bite back! Thumbs up if you know Ron Paul is the TRUE candidate and Thumbs up if you want to see him as President, no matter where you're from!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMQmInReYlI
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Saladin
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He opposes the Civil Rights Act, the 14th amendment and all other forms of progress we've made since the Civil War.
I really don't care how personally he cares about racism, his public stance is that he doesn't give a shit and no one should be involved.
Policy is more important than personal beliefs. Let him give all the stump speeches he wants, private segregation would be legal if he had his way.
Also, *everyone* these days is an avowed anti-racist because no one can be a pubic racist. Especially not if you're seeking the Presidency.
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Saladin
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JangoFetish
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I cant support someone who supports cutting funding for Defense.
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JangoFetish
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Saladin
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JangoFetish:
Why? That's the sanest position he has.
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Saladin
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JangoFetish
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Saladin:
Nothing sane about him. Never voted in the primaries much but he gives me cause to. Anything to keep him from the podium next November.
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JangoFetish
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Joeydee44
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From Hardball last night.
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Joeydee44
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savroD
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Published on Tuesday, December 20, 2011 by the Guardian/UK This Bastardized Libertarianism Makes 'Freedom' an Instrument of Oppression
It's the disguise used by those who wish to exploit without restraint, denying the need for the state to protect the 99%
by George Monbiot
Freedom: who could object? Yet this word is now used to justify a thousand forms of exploitation. Throughout the right-wing press and blogosphere, among thinktanks and governments, the word excuses every assault on the lives of the poor, every form of inequality and intrusion to which the 1% subject us. How did libertarianism, once a noble impulse, become synonymous with injustice?In the name of freedom – freedom from regulation – the banks were permitted to wreck the economy. In the name of freedom, taxes for the super-rich are cut. In the name of freedom, companies lobby to drop the minimum wage and raise working hours. In the same cause, US insurers lobby Congress to thwart effective public healthcare; the government rips up our planning laws; big business trashes the biosphere. This is the freedom of the powerful to exploit the weak, the rich to exploit the poor.
Right-wing libertarianism recognizes few legitimate constraints on the power to act, regardless of the impact on the lives of others. In the UK it is forcefully promoted by groups like the TaxPayers' Alliance, the Adam Smith Institute, the Institute of Economic Affairs, and Policy Exchange. Their concept of freedom looks to me like nothing but a justification for greed.
So why have we been been so slow to challenge this concept of liberty? I believe that one of the reasons is as follows. The great political conflict of our age – between neocons and the millionaires and corporations they support on one side, and social justice campaigners and environmentalists on the other – has been mischaracterized as a clash between negative and positive freedoms. These freedoms were most clearly defined by Isaiah Berlin in his essay of 1958, Two Concepts of Liberty. It is a work of beauty: reading it is like listening to a gloriously crafted piece of music. I will try not to mangle it too badly.
Put briefly and crudely, negative freedom is the freedom to be or to act without interference from other people. Positive freedom is freedom from inhibition: it's the power gained by transcending social or psychological constraints. Berlin explained how positive freedom had been abused by tyrannies, particularly by the Soviet Union. It portrayed its brutal governance as the empowerment of the people, who could achieve a higher freedom by subordinating themselves to a collective single will.
Rightwing libertarians claim that greens and social justice campaigners are closet communists trying to resurrect Soviet conceptions of positive freedom. In reality, the battle mostly consists of a clash between negative freedoms.
As Berlin noted: "No man's activity is so completely private as never to obstruct the lives of others in any way. 'Freedom for the pike is death for the minnows'." So, he argued, some people's freedom must sometimes be curtailed "to secure the freedom of others". In other words, your freedom to swing your fist ends where my nose begins. The negative freedom not to have our noses punched is the freedom that green and social justice campaigns, exemplified by the Occupy movement, exist to defend.
Berlin also shows that freedom can intrude on other values, such as justice, equality or human happiness. "If the liberty of myself or my class or nation depends on the misery of a number of other human beings, the system which promotes this is unjust and immoral." It follows that the state should impose legal restraints on freedoms that interfere with other people's freedoms – or on freedoms which conflict with justice and humanity.
These conflicts of negative freedom were summarized in one of the greatest poems of the 19th century, which could be seen as the founding document of British environmentalism. In The Fallen Elm, John Clare describes the felling of the tree he loved, presumably by his landlord, that grew beside his home. "Self-interest saw thee stand in freedom's ways / So thy old shadow must a tyrant be. / Thou'st heard the knave, abusing those in power, / Bawl freedom loud and then oppress the free."
The landlord was exercising his freedom to cut the tree down. In doing so, he was intruding on Clare's freedom to delight in the tree, whose existence enhanced his life. The landlord justifies this destruction by characterizing the tree as an impediment to freedom – his freedom, which he conflates with the general liberty of humankind. Without the involvement of the state (which today might take the form of a tree preservation order) the powerful man could trample the pleasures of the powerless man. Clare then compares the felling of the tree with further intrusions on his liberty. "Such was thy ruin, music-making elm; / The right of freedom was to injure thine: / As thou wert served, so would they overwhelm / In freedom's name the little that is mine."
But right-wing libertarians do not recognize this conflict. They speak, like Clare's landlord, as if the same freedom affects everybody in the same way. They assert their freedom to pollute, exploit, even – among the gun nuts – to kill, as if these were fundamental human rights. They characterize any attempt to restrain them as tyranny. They refuse to see that there is a clash between the freedom of the pike and the freedom of the minnow.
Last week, on an internet radio channel called The Fifth Column, I debated climate change with Claire Fox of the Institute of Ideas, one of the rightwing libertarian groups that rose from the ashes of the Revolutionary Communist party. Fox is a feared interrogator on the BBC show The Moral Maze. Yet when I asked her a simple question – "do you accept that some people's freedoms intrude upon other people's freedoms?" – I saw an ideology shatter like a windscreen. I used the example of a Romanian lead-smelting plant I had visited in 2000, whose freedom to pollute is shortening the lives of its neighbors. Surely the plant should be regulated in order to enhance the negative freedoms – freedom from pollution, freedom from poisoning – of its neighbors? She tried several times to answer it, but nothing coherent emerged which would not send her crashing through the mirror of her philosophy.
Modern libertarianism is the disguise adopted by those who wish to exploit without restraint. It pretends that only the state intrudes on our liberties. It ignores the role of banks, corporations and the rich in making us less free. It denies the need for the state to curb them in order to protect the freedoms of weaker people. This bastardized, one-eyed philosophy is a con trick, whose promoters attempt to wrongfoot justice by pitching it against liberty. By this means they have turned "freedom" into an instrument of oppression.
© 2011 Guardian/UK
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savroD
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bailey78
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Ya know folks the more the republicans bitch about this guy the More I want to vote for him.............Ron Paul 2012 ??
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bailey78
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youngdebater
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Ron Paul a non racist? hahaha yeah right when pigs fly!!!
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youngdebater
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Ambill94
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Yeah right...
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Ambill94
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nardo1224
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So his idea that business owners should have the right to bar various people from their establishment (no blacks allowed) is Anti- racists huh? Some people in this country just seem to have so much that they have no problem denying those that don't have as much as they do. Flush Ron Paul down the toilet along with his brainwashing Ayn Rand books.
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nardo1224
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hammywill
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nardo1224:
I'm not a Ron Paul supporter, but I am curious...who exactly do you endorse?
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hammywill
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maasanova
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nardo1224:
You do realize that Ron Paul's district is 25.49% Black or African American, don't you?
So do you think that Ron Paul only delivered white babies and refused to deliver black babies or something?
Also, most retail and restaurant establisments that I'm aware of already have the right to refuse anyone they want.
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maasanova
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misfit20
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nardo1224:
Business owners already have the right not to serve anyone they don't want. You don't agree with that?
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misfit20
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bailey78
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misfit20:
I don't think he does.
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bailey78
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nardo1224
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hammywill:
For President? Louis Farrakhan!
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nardo1224
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nardo1224
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maasanova:
If they are allowed to refuse service to anyone, where are the NO Muslim's signs.
How about no Blacks allowed!
Restaurants do not have the right to refuse service to people due to their race, creed gender or religion.
Restaurants do have the right to give people such horrible service that they may not want to come back!
The Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Pub.L. 88-352, 78 Stat. 241, enacted July 2, 1964) was a landmark piece of legislation in the United States[1] that outlawed major forms of discrimination against African Americans and women, including racial segregation. It ended unequal application of voter registration requirements and racial segregation in schools, at the workplace and by facilities that served the general public ("public accommodations").
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nardo1224
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maasanova
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nardo1224:
What are you talking about? The civil rights era was decades ago, so why are you trying to bring it back?
The reason that restaurants and retailers reserve the right to refuse service to patrons is mostly for the safety and security of their staff and other patrons, not because of race, religion or ethnicty.
You're trying very hard to make this a racial issue. It's silly.
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maasanova
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HarukoHaruhara
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maasanova:
Paul voted against renewing the 1964 Civil Rights act a few years ago.
This stuff still goes on, more than you might know.
We had an incident in our town a couple of years ago in which a restaurant refused service to an Arab college student, because the owner of the restaurant didn't like Muslims. The guy wasn't doing anything wrong, he was literally told, "we don't serve your kind here." That's not legal; the restaurant owner got in hot water for it with both the feds and the state, then changed his mind and said it was all a big misunderstanding.
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HarukoHaruhara
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maasanova
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HarukoHaruhara:
You are mixing two stories, one about Arab discrimination and one about Ron Paul opposing the Civil Rights Act to come up with a biased conclusion. I don't know the incident of which you refer to, but I don't doubt it.
All I'm saying is that incidents like the one you speak of are the exception, not the norm, and no one is saying that it is exceptable.
And according to a congressional testimony by Paul himself, he didn't oppose it because he hates black people, he opposed it because he viewed it as a sham as well as a power grab by the Federal Government.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul188.html
* the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not improve race relations or enhance freedom. Instead, the forced integration dictated by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 increased racial tensions while diminishing individual liberty.
*The Civil Rights Act of 1964 gave the federal government unprecedented power over the hiring, employee relations, and customer service practices of every business in the country. The result was a massive violation of the rights of private property and contract, which are the bedrocks of free society.
*This expansion of federal power was based on an erroneous interpretation of the congressional power to regulate interstate commerce.
*The Civil Rights Act of 1964 not only violated the Constitution and reduced individual liberty; it also failed to achieve its stated goals of promoting racial harmony and a color-blind society. Federal bureaucrats and judges cannot read minds to see if actions are motivated by racism.
*Of course, America has made great strides in race relations over the past forty years. However, this progress is due to changes in public attitudes and private efforts. Relations between the races have improved despite, not because of, the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
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maasanova
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HarukoHaruhara
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maasanova:
It's the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that makes that restaurant owner's action illegal.
And the No. 1 reason those incidents are not the norm is because of ... the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
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HarukoHaruhara
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sharin
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"Should the GOP primary electorate ultimately choose Paul as their nominee, however, it would be the clearest possible sign that they want to remake this country into a much meaner and more cruelly indifferent nation than the one nearly all Americans grew up in. Rep. Paul does not simply want to repeal most of the 20th Century, he believes that nearly everything America does is unconstitutional. ThinkProgress compiled video of just a few of Paul’s many claims that basic laws and essential programs violate the Constitution. A short list includes Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the National Labor Relations Board, the Federal Reserve, income taxes, and even the dollar bill."
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/12/20/392728/paul-everything-is-unconstitu... - 5 months ago
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sharin
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hammywill
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sharin:
Was there a point to this post?
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hammywill
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misfit20
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sharin:
So where in the Constitution does it allow for any of these things? Just because you think something is good, doesn't mean it is constitutional. Ending the Federal Reserve is a bad thing?? Read a book
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misfit20
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wyndesonge
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misfit20:
It's under the part of the Constitution that allows the legislatve branch to enact laws. Didn't get to that part in your reading I assume.
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wyndesonge
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ReMarker
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A currently serving Republican is non-racist? Hahahaha
Thanks for the laugh.
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ReMarker
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dadevil
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b.s. RON PAUL is Ready TO LEAD US BACK TO REALITY all Others are
MONEY-PUPPETS - "VETERANS FOR RON PAUL"http://www.ronpaul.com/congress/legislation/111th-congress-200910/audit-the-fede...
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dadevil
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Itsbatman_Durr
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what really divides us is the sham of political parties who mouth different agendas but carry out the same one, that of the corpos and banks that are their overlords. and that includes you ron paul, you are a liar and a sham who has carved out a little cave for yourself within the repug party in order to position yourself as an option to bounce the center off of, collecting your ill gotten gains and pretending to be any different
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Itsbatman_Durr
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bailey78
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Itsbatman_Durr:
Stop spreading the truth. You will confuse the sheeple
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bailey78
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Itsbatman_Durr
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bailey78:
i sowwee hun.
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Itsbatman_Durr
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bailey78
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Itsbatman_Durr:
It's Ok I love you anyway Oh and Happy Holidays :)
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bailey78
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snoskier
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Wow!!
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snoskier
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Milieu
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Great SNL sketch.
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Milieu
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savroD
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Look.... I trust Ron Paul to have more integrity than most politicians on both sides; however, libertarianism is too constrained by a past that doesn't exist anymore. The libertarians are in desparate need of a reformation; and if they could do it, they might actually become a viable 3rd party by unifying with greens, true progressives, and liberals looking for a new, (out-of-the-box) approach to the problems of today.
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savroD
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rerushg
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I respect your views quite a lot, Anonmaly, but I just can't get there from here. I'd certainly agree that Paul is probably the best of a bad lot but, racist or not, my gut feel is that fundamental Libertarian tenets would leave us in a bad place not unlike the mainstream GOP would leave us.
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rerushg
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HarukoHaruhara
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http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-the-real-story-behind-ron-pauls-racist-news...
"Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal."
"We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational."
Signed .... RON FUCKING PAUL.
And that's a bloody FACT.
Oh, wait, he had NOTHING whatsoever to do with that... someone else musta wrote it.
Even though it had HIS name on it.
Hey, I have a bridge for sale ... and some bottomlands in Florida.
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HarukoHaruhara
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BCDel89
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HarukoHaruhara:
I am racist and I am stupid.
-HARUKOHARUHARA-
Uh oh it's got your name on it guess that means you definitely wrote it.
Remember actions speak louder than words so let's see his actions that prove he's a racist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKBlk1Vpeuw - 5 months ago
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BCDel89
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HarukoHaruhara
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BCDel89:
Yes, actions do speak volumes:
"In 2006, Paul joined 32 other members of Congress in opposing the renewal of the 1965 Voting Rights Act, originally passed to remove barriers to voting participation for minorities.."
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HarukoHaruhara
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Buddha2112
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HarukoHaruhara:
Note how you say ORIGINALLY passed. A lot of things were originally passed for good reason, but they're usually poorly written and create a lot of problems down the road.
It's not necessary to have laws 'removing barriers for minorities'... There just shouldn't be barriers. Anything extra is bullshit and superfluous... cloggin up the tubes of Congress.
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Buddha2112
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Buddha2112
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HarukoHaruhara:
No, it's not a fact in today's world. Does Al Gore support Ron Paul because Ron Paul is the #1 story on his website? His name is on it. Al Gore must also be a racist because he supports Ron Paul.
EL OH EL
On top of that, you have to be careful with Paul's quotes and the entire context of his words. He'll often speak sarcastically... You could even quote Paul saying "The Fed is great, it prints money out of thin air".
Is that what he means? FUCK NO. You have a brain, use it, and form a full opinion rather than eating the shit both parties are feeding you.
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Buddha2112
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remanns
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Buddha2112:
I agree with that on general principle. +^d
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remanns
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Ambill94
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HarukoHaruhara:
I think I bought some of those bottom lands a couple of years ago from a guy named...oh what was it...nice young fella...talked about change...nice family...came from up Chicago way...damn if I can remember who that was...never did find that land though...
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Ambill94
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Anonmaly
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And why would I support this man who very clearly explains how his policies aren't systemic racism (unlike those of our current administration), as if being anti systemic racism isn't enough...
Ending marijuana prohibition would be about one of the greatest things you could do for many ill people, with documented legitimate medical conditions, that cannabis has been proven to help....
Then there is the whole being ANTI;
indefinite detention,
extra judicial murders,
perpetual wars,
policing the globe,
bloated government (which could be made to sound bad, but look at how Obama just "bent over" for the petroleum industry and they've already bought up tons of new leases in the gulf, and did BP listen to the EPA when they were told NOT to continue using dispersants? Hell no, so our government in not effective, nor concerned with the will of the people, or state of the environment anyway.),
Gee there are many reasons, Ron Paul will win the election and the inverted totalitarian regime doesn't have to like it, they don't have the power, the people do.....
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Anonmaly
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KB723
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Anonmaly:
I would rather keep what's left of my Liberties and Freedom, than vote for Ron Paul... I as well as many others still smoke the Shrub with or with out his "Saying" he will legalize it... Speaking of which BO was pouting the Same BS and look what or where that has taken us...
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KB723
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Anonmaly
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KB723:
Look a little closer there KB (had to break for a bowl and gather thoughts before completing that)...
I'm all for reverting back to the policies and customs of the Native American "Indians" we stole this land from, but short of that..... None of those corporate sock-puppets would do more for the country than Paul.
And sorry it IS Obama with the close ties to the Koch brothers, the true story (posted from different sources by a few) was posted here about him hiring one of their top lobbyists from the Keystone Pipeline to head his reelection campaign.
But really who would you prefer?
Get Bernie Sanders to run..... I might then change my tune...
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Anonmaly
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KB723
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Anonmaly:
Bernie and Grayson 2012???
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KB723
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rerushg
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KB723:
I like Grayson/Bernie better. :)
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rerushg
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KB723
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rerushg:
Fair Enough... =)
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KB723