The Kitchen Debate (Nixon and Khrushchev, 1959) Communism VS Capitalism- is the Debate over?
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Power to Freedom of Speech!!!
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tverdell
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IMO, an evolved people will thrive in any system, from anarchy to a monarchy.
Capitalism and communism fail because we cannot implement either correctly.
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tverdell
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remanns
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tverdell:
They fail because individuals can not even implement THEMSELVES correctly.
( not holding my breath for "evolved people",.....but I cant say they cant happen. )
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remanns
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hammywill
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tverdell:
It is not so much that we can not implement either correctly so much as it is ideological systems require a society populated with ideal people. Since no such population exists, at least not on any national level, neither one of those systems will work.
My opinion is that it is time we stop being so myopic about these systems. We should realize that many differing systems have many fine points and many negatives. Perhaps it's time we admitted as much and took the best that they all have to offer and chuck the rest. Only ignorant people think in absolute terms, which is of course why we have what we have.
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hammywill
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StandaboveUnderstand
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At 7:40 I guess he gave up on that promise.
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StandaboveUnderstand
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treewolf39
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Really enjoyable. Great post. The world has to start caring for all.
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treewolf39
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hammywill
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The only problem I have with this post is that the system that was in place in the Soviet Union was NOT communism and the system in place in the United States is NOT capitalism. Both systems are in practice the same thing, no matter what name you wish to put on them.
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hammywill
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BRAVATRAVELS
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hammywill:
Excellent point....
If we don't have capitalism what will you call our system.... I don't believe the name republic explain who we are......
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BRAVATRAVELS
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MSII
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hammywill:
I agree! There has (to my knowledge) never been a true communism anywhere. The so-called communism current are just dictatorships of various flavors. And america's laissez-faire-style-capitalism is a abomination. I hope for the sanity of a good social-democracy! Contrary to the wrong-wingers they seem to be the best answer in the world today. Best outcome for people and the world.
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MSII
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hammywill
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MSII:
There has been and is a fine example of communism functioning rather well. It has in fact been around for hundreds of years. The Amish...:-)
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hammywill
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MSII
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hammywill:
Hmmm.... I don't know... I live in PA. and have some knowledge of the amish I can't hold them up as a good example. There's way too much hypocrisy in that community, though I do admire some of their ways in theory, the actual practice falls short. The major sexism, and way children are often treated for example. The theory of the non-materialist lifestyle falls short of the often very greedy materialism in actual practice.
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MSII
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tverdell
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hammywill:
And the kibbutz.
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tverdell
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hammywill:
yepper. +^d
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remanns
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remanns
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hammywill:
heh. point. +^d
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remanns
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hammywill
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tverdell:
Indeed.
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hammywill
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freehit
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MSII:
Besides the two samples below there is also the first few years of what now calls itself christianity. Back then every thing was held in common within the community. Then Saul of Tarsus got into it and it went litteraly to hell.
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freehit
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BRAVATRAVELS
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if we were to have a debate today....
Which will be our proud accomplishments?
Few unjustified wars
Failing schools
corporations controlling our government
Media own by only few people
the changes in our constitution to strip us of our rights
injustices and discrimination
the destruction of our environmentand the list goes on and on.....
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BRAVATRAVELS
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kennymotown
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BRAVATRAVELS:
Capitalism is eating it self, as predicted. The massive unrest of this coming year will usher in a new economy that works for everyone!
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kennymotown
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BRAVATRAVELS
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kennymotown:
Kenny we have soo much work ahead of us...
This is the beginning of our struggles.....
Power to the 99%!!!
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BRAVATRAVELS
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kennymotown
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BRAVATRAVELS:
Yes indeed, keep reporting and producing the posts!
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kennymotown