Community | December 31, 2011 | 61 comments

WHAT ABOUT KEITH?

I find the fact that Current contines to advertise its political coverage (Politally Direct) to be moderated by Cenk, with Keith not included, to be abhorrent. Keith Olbermann is the experienced journalist in your midst, and why I watch Current. Although I enjoy Cenk, I expect that the experienced Keith moderate your political coverage. Al Gore will not suffice. If Keith is not there, I will watch Rachel on MSNBC. Sorry, but the only reason I ever switched to Current TV was to follow Keith Olbermann. Whatever problem lurks between your network and Keith, please fix it.

Thank you very much.

"Truthglow"
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61 comments // WHAT ABOUT KEITH?

  • JustMe2277
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      JustMe2277  
    • I was doing some searching to also try to find out why Keith is not on the election shows and came across the comments here. I like BOTH Cenk and Keith but don't agree with either of them on everything but that is not why I watch them! I am tired of all the news that lets politicians get away with lying, distorting, etc. so hearing Cenk and Keith tell the news like it is is what I love about both of them and then I can decide which side of the issues I am on.

      I find it sad to read the negative comments here about them and V.P. Al Gore as well as Jennifer when no one knows for sure why Keith has not been on the election shows. Everyone is just assuming and even if some of the assumptions are correct the fact we don't know for sure is good enough reason to not be so critical of any of these people!

      The Republicans for the most part ignore the wrongs and hypocrisy within their own party and is one thing I love about Cenk and Keith that they don't ignore it when a politician does or says something wrong regardless of which party it is in. We get enough of that on Fox News and where everyone should be watching them if that is the kind of news they want. OR if they don't want the lies and hypocrisy exposed there is always the other news channels that don't challenge the statements of those they have on the air.

      Keep up the great work Keith and Cenk and I do hope to see you Keith on the election shows, too, with the others!!

    • 5 months ago
  • Flute
    • +1
      Flute  
    • KO you keep showing me why you are this generations Murrow and putting Current on the map. KO it matters to zip weither you cover the cauces or not, I only care about him speaking truth and putting people's feet to fire, I love him for being human and standing on principle. Again all I expect out his is for him to be himself as along as he that he will always have a fan in me. He permit on my wall Ipod and Ipad for the fact that he is himself. Again this all I expect, also KO you never have to apoligize for calling Palin out on the Special Olympics cut, you were right on that one like always. Keep it up, will follow you where every you go. Keep being KO and you will always have a viewer in and fan in me, love you faults and all.

    • 5 months ago
  • truthglow
  • Flute
    • +1
      Flute  
    • truthglow:

      I understand that this about the fault of Current and even understand the negative number. Hey I am like you, I only watch KO and if he leaves I go with him, but as I said before I do not put much efficency on that article to me it just a rumor, I think that thier is someone that is really mad at him and wants to cause trouble. Trust me I will not watch the pramies if they do not have KO. Again if Current is treating KO the way that MSNBC which would not be suprising than I am out. I am a premit KO fan and only will watch if he's there. Tried the Young Turks and were not really impressed, maybe Gramholm, but truth is like you truthglow KO is what keeps me at Current.

    • 5 months ago
  • ROSERITA
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      ROSERITA  
    • Keith is the ONLY person on T.V. who won't sell his soul for a news story, he is not a puppet and no one owns him, for those reasons he can be at odds with his "bosses" I thought Al Gore would understand this.... Cenk is good, but he is so partisan even me a true liberal gets annoyed at times...Without Keith Olbermann on T.V. I wont watch "news" Ill get my info somewhere else, not from the bought and sold cooperate media...

    • 5 months ago
  • Simone_Castillo
  • SFirman
    • +7
      SFirman  
    • The only reason I found Current was because of Keith. Without him I will go back to watching MSNBC. No one can replace him.

    • 5 months ago
  • IKare1
    • +5
      IKare1  
    • People, get a grip! The Iowa Caucus is incidental at best; it's not the November election! Why would you put your best guy on to cover such a trivial event dominated by a bunch of losers? Of course, our first choice is always to watch Keith but lighten up!

      It's too early to weigh in on Granholm or Cenk. Give them a chance. It's not fair to judge them against Keith because he's the best in the business.

    • 5 months ago
  • moveondave
    • +4
      moveondave  
    • I am of the opinion that Keith is giving the young bloods a chance to prove themselves. For all practical purposes, I think Keith chose not to be a part of the situation because it is not going to be up to his standard. He is an independent voice. To participate on this level is to elevate the others to his level, or for him to move down to theirs....

      I think things will be different after they have paid the same dues he has.....In the mean time... Keith still rules.

    • 5 months ago
  • shellee_rose
    • +4
      shellee_rose  
    • Does it occur to anyone that perhaps there really is no problem or tension at Current? Keith is the Chief News Officer. I imagine he would participate in the coverage if he chose to.
      Yes, I wish he would be a part of it. But who are we to tell him how to do his job?
      And...Itsbatman_Durr, if you hate Keith so much, why are you even on this site?
      Everyone give the man a break. I'm sure he knows what he's doing.

    • 5 months ago
  • dinm76
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      dinm76  
    • Honest to god people! What is the big fuss about? Dosen't he deserve a few days off? Don't you expect a few clitches now and then. You should all just take a chill pill!

    • 5 months ago
  • ROSERITA
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      ROSERITA  
    • dinm76:

      To those who think some of us are overreacting .. Keith told us he would be back Tuesday that is not happening.. he has been sitting in the dark for over two weeks? A man with his pull is sitting in the dark?? I guess after he left MSNBC so abruptly, I'm a little shell shocked now... I hope we are making something out of nothing...

    • 5 months ago
  • Houndfan
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      Houndfan  
    • I added Current to my cable package and am paying $18.95 extra per month so I could see Keith. Political coverage on that channel should feature him. If not then I change the channel. Gore hired Keith to make Current a success and promoted it as the Keith channel. So where's the beef or should I rather say where's the Keith?

    • 5 months ago
  • Itsbatman_Durr
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      Itsbatman_Durr  
    • what about keef? he is a shitty reporter, if you dont mind insulting reporters y calling him one, a poor excuse for a journalist, a terrible biased and partial host, a demagogue, and the liberal version of rush limbaugh. cenk is honest, impartial, and actually a journalist in the old school tradition, not a talking head with nothingness to say. fuck keith, long live cenk

    • 5 months ago
  • Itsbatman_Durr
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      Itsbatman_Durr  
    • Itsbatman_Durr:

      feel free to vote it down, but keith and michael moore, as well as oreilly and sean hannity, are what is wrong with the main stream media. they are not journalists, they are not reporters, they are idiots playing a role on tv to illicit and force people to choose sides and buy the corporate line. they are the biggest face of the problem, the machine that splits us up to divide and conquer, and they add nothing positive to the world.

    • 5 months ago
  • IKare1
  • Ambill94
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      Ambill94  
    • Itsbatman_Durr:

      Great contribution to the discussion...your comparisons and contrasts are backwards and your vocabulary is a direct reflection of your limited intellectual understanding of what people are saying, and about what Keith has said in the past regarding his role on Current...don't let the door hit you in the ass...

    • 5 months ago
  • shellee_rose
  • timelord999
  • Itsbatman_Durr
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      Itsbatman_Durr  
    • IKare1:

      Can you spell C-L-A-S-S? not without A-S-S.. i like to think of language as a box of crayons.. if you dont occasionally use all the colours, your pictures are dull and lifelless.. overuse any and you are left with a blurry muddy mess.. sorry you choose to limit your experiences.

    • 5 months ago
  • Itsbatman_Durr
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      Itsbatman_Durr  
    • Ambill94:

      lol look at you with the big words and stuff! you must be a real genius!! let me break it down so those with less limited world views can understand: you disagree with my opinion on your little idol keeef, so it must mean i dont get it, or i have limited intellect. great argument! do you work for POTUS? because its thinking like that that fits right in to the new world order of the machine.. you could run the media today with that logic!

    • 5 months ago
  • Itsbatman_Durr
  • Itsbatman_Durr
  • Itsbatman_Durr
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      Itsbatman_Durr  
    • shellee_rose:

      also, if you can spare a moment to pull your head out of keef's ass, you should re-read my comment: feel free to vote it down, but keith and michael moore, as well as oreilly and sean hannity, are what is wrong with the main stream media. they are not journalists, they are not reporters, they are idiots playing a role on tv to illicit and force people to choose sides and buy the corporate line. they are the biggest face of the problem, the machine that splits us up to divide and conquer, and they add nothing positive to the world.

      i dont call him a journalist, a reporter, or anything other than a spokesmodel for the machines policy of divide and keep ignorant the populace of slaves and consumers, while you keep them arguing amoungst themselves over false positions such as left and right.

    • 5 months ago
  • Ambill94
  • rerushg
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      rerushg  
    • Itsbatman_Durr:

      Well, hell, I voted you up for having an opinion and holding your ground. I don't agree with all you've said but if I wanted to hang with a bunch of Lefty Lemmings I'd go elsewhere.

      (Actually, I like both KO and Cenk; followed both for years. What we have here is a tempest in a teapot during that wierd time of the holiday season. When the election shit starts to get serious Current will show up with the heavy hitters.)

    • 5 months ago
  • rhythmstick
  • IKare1
  • outofbounds
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      outofbounds  
    • From another angle, it's just not that important who wins the Republican nomination. The country would not be served well by any one of them and that makes their race irrelevant. Keith can cover more important issues.

    • 5 months ago
  • Itsbatman_Durr
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      Itsbatman_Durr  
    • outofbounds:

      its not important who wins the entire election, honestly. they are just the face of the machine. keef and hannity, michael moore and oreilly are nothing more than the announcers at the WWE, trying to get us divided on the faces and heels, to drum up excitement and divert us from realizing the game is rigged

    • 5 months ago
  • outofbounds
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      outofbounds  
    • Itsbatman_Durr:

      It's true that it doesn't matter who wins the presidency - up to a point. There will be a BIG difference in the country with a president like Ron Paul or Rick Perry, for instance, vs. a president like Barack Obama. Obama only gets us partway there, but at least he's going in the right direction!

    • 5 months ago
  • budsnews
  • truthglow
    • +2
      truthglow  
    • outofbounds:

      Not really. There's no difference in the corporate establishment Dem/ReThug Party. It has taken away our Bill of Rights, even worse under Obama than when Bush was in power. Our country is now ruled under Fascism, with no Freedom to assemble or speak. Just look at how the "Occupiers" have been beaten! The press & government are now one. The only thing we have is Keith & Cenk (to some extent). We need another party, or we're completely done. Check out Rocky Anderson from the new Justice Party. He's a REAL progressive who can help us, but he needs extensive coverage. Cenk had him on for a very brief, token time, but it wasn't long enough. He needs to be taken seriously.

    • 5 months ago
  • outofbounds
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      outofbounds  
    • truthglow:

      We could definitely use another party, but what are the realistic steps to get there? Probably not for the 2012 election. There is a process that can move in that direction, and the Republican party will fight (and spend) mightily to keep that from happening. But more importantly, any major shifts need to go in the direction of supporting the people.

    • 5 months ago
  • truthglow
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      truthglow  
    • outofbounds:

      So that means we don't try? That's what the Fascists count on. I for one will try, no matter what. If our forefathers were too afraid to try, we'd be ruled by Queen Elizabeth today. To support the Justice Party & Rocky Anderson is to support "THE PEOPLE!"

    • 5 months ago
  • truthglow
  • truthglow
  • realserious
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      realserious  
    • Hear we go again Mr. Gore. You brought Keith aboard to give your station a boost. Now you shove him aside for the new kids on the block. I never watched Current before keith arrived, and if he is not going to be a part of Current TV--then I won't watch it again. Cenk and Jennifer can learn a lot from Keith, and so can you Mr. Gore. I don't know what the problem is--but I hope you find a solution soon. Cenk has turned me off with so much Obama bashing--and I choose not to watch his show. I Know Keith has opinions and advice--it would be wise to listen.

    • 5 months ago
  • joeredford
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      joeredford [removed]  
    • Has it occured to anyone that Keith is not only the anchor of Countdown but is also the program director of Current? He is personally responsible for the direction Current is taking and he has other responsibilities with which to concern himself. He is trying to build a network and increase it's ratings as well as it's profitability. If every shows host holds exactly the same opinions and political skew as all the others, what is the point?
      This is not PBS or another non-profit organization. It does not exist to preach to the choir and confirm all of our preconceived ideas. I appreciate the attempt to bring variety and different perspectives to Current but still remain within a liberal framework.
      Not every liberal has to be a radical extremist to retain their credibilty as a progressive.
      I believe Keith is certainly politically sophisticated enough to recognize this as well and intends to present a well rounded menu of programing for all apects of progressive thought.

    • 5 months ago
  • moveondave
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      moveondave  
    • I must have missed something. I discovered current because I saw K/O's name and started watching. Because of that, I wanted to see what else they had to offer. I noted the Young Turks and find them to be a second act to KO's lead.

      I considered pitching some ideas I had to current because of the trends I saw and liked.

      Now, I don't know what is going on???

    • 5 months ago
  • Leen61
    • +5
      Leen61  
    • I will miss Keith if he is not a part of the Current line up. If Granholm's opologist presence is to offset Cenk's more biting critiques of the Obama administration, I suppose that's OK but Keith would still add much more to the discussion. Keith is so good at interviewing people. He is never shrill and he just is an intelligent political voice. We don't know if it is by choice that KO's not participating in the caucus coverage but it certainly won't bode well for viewership. After all, Keith is the reason I came here to Current....and it's how I found the Community page. If Keith won't be on Current TV, then I have no reason to watch the channel.

    • 5 months ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • I have to say not having him there makes it look like something more is up. To be honest I also tweeted and participated here in the first after debate talk and it was boring as all get out. They need a definite change to spice things up and it isn't going to happen with people who are so much into apologizing for Obama and this system they can't see this whole thing for what it is. Just the same ole, same ole. Sorry, Mr. Gore. I usually agree with so much you take on, but putting Granholm in front and pushing Cenk Uyger on us 24/7 in my opinion isn't cutting it. And the total lack of discussion about the environment in all of this coverage is really disappointing...but then I guess if you did discuss it objectively that wouldn't make Obama and or Democrats on the whole look too good either (especially DOW supporting Jennifer Granholm) and we can't have that now can we?

    • 5 months ago
  • thedirtman
  • JanforGore
    • +4
      JanforGore  
    • thedirtman:

      Too much politics is absolutely correct. Even on this site you don't see a "caption contest" unless the picture is political. And I agree as well about the clown show. In the end Obama will get a second term just like Bush did. This is all for entertainment and show. Which makes it all the more disappointing for me that Mr. Gore doesn't seem to see that and is playing along with all of this, especially regarding his previous and correct statements about the system being dysfunctional. Current could have been truly groundbreaking, especially regarding issues related to our Earth and true human issues. I know this year coming up will see me doing a lot more to get out information about the environment on other venues as well as my blogs and an effort to participate in occupying to change this government system which on all sides is nothing more than a sham.

    • 5 months ago
  • joeredford
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      joeredford [removed]  
    • JanforGore:

      Jennifer Granholm is a person friend of Keith Olberman and he was responsible for bringing her aboard. I find her a very nice counter balance to Cenk's sometimes ill conceived, out of left field, Ron Paul genuflecting. I appreciate Keith, Cenk and Jennifer for bringing us the different shades of gray on issues that are never all just black and white.The progressive movements intolerance of even the slightest diversion from purist ideology is counter productive to the aims of the movement. Keith's attemps to bring a broader audience to Current is based on his realization that only 12% of liberals are disenchanted with Barack Obama, and he understands that you cannot build a network based on such a audience. That's what Democracy Now is for , which I watch religiously.

    • 5 months ago
  • truthglow
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      truthglow  
    • thedirtman:

      Unfortunately, Obama will also be remembered for taking away our rights in his signing of the NDAA bill, and for his continuation of Bush's torture and more of that bad stuff. He's the biggest disappointment in my lifetime so far. Current should stop pushing him and start supporting the REAL progressive that is Rocky Anderson.

    • 5 months ago
  • JanforGore
    • +4
      JanforGore  
    • joeredford:

      Oh, so it is then Keith Olbermann who made the mistake? Thanks for clearing that up. She is still a party apologist and comes off as phoney to me. And praytell, please tell me the "different shades of grey" there are regarding taking civil liberties away? Perpetuating war? Environmental destruction? I will tell you- there are no shades of grey- it's wrong regardless of party. So I don't need the softsell nor to be preached to by people who only tow the party line.

      And I don't know what movement you are talking about but it isn't the one out here that sees the BS on all sides and is sick of those like Granholm just covering the butts of those who butter her bread. And I am not just disenchanted with Obama as an AMERICAN, I am disenchanted with this entire system which he is a part of. Tell us how much Obama will spend on negative ads this political season just like the other clowns will do spending billions on the same campaign BS when that money could have been spent to truly help people, especially since poverty has increased while this administration continues the military industrial complex.

      And really? The Progressive movement is a hindrance and counterproductive? To what? If you mean fomenting war and economic and environmental devastation, you bet. The absolute lack of tolerance for dissenting views in the Democratic Party is just as unpalatable as the jackbooted mentality of the Republican Party, only you all do it much more subtly.

      In all honesty, I find it sad that Obama may only win this because the other side is so absolutely abyssmal. I miss the day when campaigns actually had platforms and Ideas and it was exciting to watch. Now it is little more than an exercise in ego and who can make the most donations to buy the most corporate votes. And you can keep it. I will keep to my Progressive principles and keep fighting for a better world, unlike those in both parties who just talk the talk without walking the walk year after year after year...

    • 5 months ago
  • truthglow
    • +4
      truthglow  
    • JanforGore:

      Beautifully articulated janforgore. You have a wonderful way of putting into words exactly what I was thinking! I believe there are many more who are thinking like this, and we are the ones who believe in Rocky Anderson and his Justice Party. God knows, there is no one in the Dem/ReThug Party of "Clowns" running for office who will protect our rights or our country.

    • 5 months ago
  • thedirtman
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      thedirtman  
    • truthglow:

      I can certainly understand your feelings and I can concur with some reasons, truthglow. I hope everyone will also come to understand that big disappointment is not precisely the same as worst President.

    • 5 months ago
  • joeredford
    • +1
      joeredford [removed]  
    • JanforGore:

      Life is nothing but shades of gray. Because somebody does not tow your line 100% they are your enemy and an enemy to all things decent and progressive. This is a total lack of perspective and the reason why nothing of substance is ever accomplished in this country. Compromise is only a dirty word to teabaggers and extremists from both sides. This country has existed for 236 years and moderation is what has kept us stable and still a democracy instead of the idealogical pure utopia you envision, which any practical , realistic person reognizes as unobtainable. I deal with real world realities and attempt to change what I can in whatever way I can. The fact that it doesn't rise to your exceedingly preposterous standards does not make my accomplishments any less valid than what you purport to care about. It is indeed a sad state of affairs that people who agree on probably 95% of the issues that matter cannot have a civil disagreement without irrational accusations of being a traitor to liberalism.
      BTW, I don't blame Keith for anything. I have a great deal of admiration and respect for him and the decisions he feels are best for his network and bring his perspective to the widest audience possible. It is you who condemns him for not adhering to your strict rules about who is an acceptable liberal and who is not. If you cannot tolerate listening to the slightest alternative position that Ms. Granhom ofers then I suggest you turn your attention elsewhere .I am sorry that Keith , Jennifer and I do not meet your criterion for idealogical purity, but one can't help but wonder if anyone can, unless they have the most narrowminded outlook on life.
      " An idealist is one who, on noticing that roses smell better than cabbage, concludes that they will also taste better as a soup."--H.L. Menken

    • 5 months ago
  • truthglow
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      truthglow  
    • thedirtman:

      I didn't say "worst president," but he is definitely a dangerous president. You would agree, if it were you (or yours) who were captured & held without a trial, as this president has already allowed by signing such a law. He has also expanded upon Bush's wiretapping & other spying methods of we the people. He is not to be trusted, and don't be fooled by his beautiful smile. I was one of the millions who were fooled in 2008, but I will not be fooled again.

    • 5 months ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • joeredford:

      Nothing preposterous about wanting clean air and water, healthy food without the influence of Monsanto, DOW and other companies that poison it and a world where the people have the say not the powerful. We have been failing on all of that of late and you and those like you seem very content with continuing to vote for that status quo. I would then say your standards are dismally lacking not mine. Supporting "Democrats" just because they claim to be Democrats or vice versa for "Republicans" is what has ruined this country. Putting party before principle has ruined this country. And Granholm offers no position on anything else I am interested in. She is clearly here to push herself, sell books and apologize for Obama with more softball insider DC pablum. And as long as I am a member of this site I will focus my attention on what I know is important. I'm still waiting for her to answer as to why she calls herself a "progressive" and yet supports DOW Chemical. Oh, but that is such a horrible standard I have in expecting those who say they care about the environment to actually explain their actions to the contrary in supporting companies that poison it. Yes, so narrowminded of me to care about people poisoned and maimed by Agent Orange and Dioxin. And I'll keep waiting for the answer.

    • 5 months ago
  • JanforGore
  • joeredford
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      joeredford [removed]  
    • JanforGore:

      Unlike you, Jennifer Granholm as the Governor of Michigan could not afford to be a one issue candidate. She was busy along with the administration trying to save the auto industry, whose failure would have devastated the state economically and from which it never could recover. It is one thing to be concerned about our environment as all progressive/liberals do, it is another to allow millions of workers to be put out of work with nowhere to turn and no prospects for the future. Once again, you allow your single minded pursuit of environmental issues to blind you to a moderate approach which would allow us to make some real progress in this area, without the left and right battling to the death over the cause and consequently achieving nothing.
      Why not write Keith and tell him what awful decisions he's making in regard to his network and berate he and his colleagues for being such bad liberals, because I'm quite tired of being derided for my failure to as good a liberal as you. Perhaps Keith will shout " Hallelujah" and offer you a position as program director.Then after your extremism runs the station into the ground we can all sit around bemoaning the fact that there is one less outlet for progressive causes. If Current TV isn't pure enough for you, try Fox. Maybe they will make you their token environmentalist. In the meantime, leave Keith Olbermann alone to do the job Al Gore hired him to do.
      P.S. Remember to set you DVR every night at 9:00 for "The War Room", I know I will. I always watch Rachel Maddow live. Don't tell me, I know, she's a sell out too.

    • 5 months ago
  • JanforGore
    • -1
      JanforGore  
    • joeredford:

      She was busy saving her portfolio and allowing DOW to poison her state. And Current TV has now turned into the same as the very MSM pablum they were stating they wanted to be different from and because I care about that don't expect my opinion to go away anytime soon. I have been here to see all of its incarnations and I believe it is this poltical overkill that will ruin this station. Even to the point of cancelling Vanguard, the best damn show on this station. And you know what? If I were offered a job here I would take it and I bet I would generate more interest in this station because I am not a ONE ISSUE person and because I know that poltiics is not the ONLY THING IN LIFE. I am getting tired of being berated for an honest opinion and for caring about the Earth, which also translates to caring about poverty, education, etc. Without an environment, YOU HAVE NOTHING ELSE. And that isn't LIBERAL to me so you can stop with the typical DLC labelling bs. I am a humanist. Too bad so many Democrats seem to have forgotten what that means in their quest to be like all the rest.

    • 5 months ago
  • truthglow
  • joeredford
    • 0
      joeredford [removed]  
    • JanforGore:

      As I tell born agains who complain about programing, there is an on/off button and a remote to change the channel. These days one may even block a station. Press the menu button and you never need be corrupted by Keith and Jennifer again. Happy channel surfing.

    • 5 months ago
  • percipi224
    • +4
      percipi224  
    • Perhaps the sense is that Cenk is the up an coming, youth thang? with the lap tops etc.? I like Keith all by himself, and believe me he no doubt has a hand in much at Current. I do wish Keith would get his set back and be able to do live interviews. His guests seem wooden without his "big head" in the same room.

    • 5 months ago
  • truthglow
    • +4
      truthglow  
    • percipi224:

      Cenk is OK, but he's too loud, & a little of him goes a long, long way. Granholm is just another old-time Dem., & she will never win the ratings war against Rachel Maddow. Her pushing Obama on us is not progressive. If Current is REALLY a "Progressive Network," they would be supporting Rocky Anderson of the Justice Party. He's the only "progressive" in the entire race.

    • 5 months ago
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