A couple?

Anonmaly, shut the fack up,this is no place for the truth.You must be crazy.

Because they are all taking money from the American People

I don't think we're upset. Actually we're thrilled.

I guess after so many years and years and years of losing, it just seems natural to you . He only got the bronze and we all know Ron Paul has a hard on for gold.

Joe, is this you?

Why no mommie dearest , it's Rand Paul regurgitating the bile his evil daddy taught him after the voters of Iowa rejected it as well last night. And THAT'S the truth.

Romney is Mormon and Santorum is Homophobic. Be careful what you wish for

And Paul wants the states to decide who has the right to marry and who doesn't. A whack job, a homophobic mormon, a worse homophobic Catholic, and you straight people wonder why I'm sticking with Obama. I already got my wish in 2008 and I'm relying on it being renewed in November.

Blindly? By looking at his record and assessing his voting values for what they are?

You sure you're not talking about Obama and the other candidates?

No, definatley Paul.
Racist.
Misogynist.
Homophobe.
Anti-Semite.
Isolationist.
I could go on and on, but why bother? He's against war and for pot. That negates everything else for short sighted libertarians. Let's not weigh the good against the bad, it gets in the way of unfounded hero worship.

A lot of his supporters seem to be against killing people over in the middle east. What is so bad about that?

Not a damned thing if becoming an isolationist country and legalizing weed are your only issues.
I judge a candidate and their policies in their totality. Mr.Paul's prejudices and half baked ideas negate the few positive opinions he holds. Paul wants to abolish the Environmental Protection Agency leaving our natural resources vulnerable to the plunging and pillaging of private industry.He wants to abolish a woman's right to chose and deny funding to Planned Parenthood He wants to abolish the Dept. of education and end Pell grants for college students. He has said that he would never have voted for the Civil right's act of 1964 and finds it perfectly acceptable to allow restaraunts to deny service to African Americans, hispanics , gays or anyone else they choose. I find that particularly reprehensible. He wants to return all power to the states thereby allowing states to discriminate against minorities. Why should I be denied the right to marry in Texas but allowed to marry in New York, allowed to marry in Vermont and denied that right in Arizona? A constitutionally guaranteed right is a right and the states have no business denying those rights. Paul is against providing any type of government run health care, for the abolishment of Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security programs. The list of Paul's ludicrous policies go on and on and I could spend hours listing the destructive measures he would implement as president. Dangerous is the word for Paul and I, for one, won't have anything to do
with his attempt to destroy the social safety net which has served this country well for 85 years.

And that makes him different from Obama how?

Joe Redford, champion of the status quo.

I am a champion of my own people and the rights of all other minorities, have been all my life. If you wish to construe that as being for the status quo, then by all means do so, it will be innacurate , but that's never stopped you from entertaining erroneous opinions before. I'm not giving up my support for a man who has done more for gay people than any other president in history for a man who intends to play social engineering games with my rights by turning them over to states who have no interest in protecting, only in denying them. Excuse moi, if I wish to retain what I have fought for for the past 44 years and finally achieved. I never expect anyone who has not had any personal experience with walking in my shoes to understand my motivations. I only understand what's right for me and those who have had similar experiences with living with predjudice. That's fine with me and all other gay activists, we started this battle alone and we will finish it alone.

You can see the data here:

www.aclulibertywatch.org/ALWCandidateReportCard.pdf.

I did. That link was a part of your original post. It is precisely the basis of my comment. Sorry. Nothing personal but: pants on fire.

Right on, but the ACLU is rating Paul above Obama on civil liberties. That actually means something to some people.

Most of the Ron Paul haters on this site can't think past their liberalaty. They are caught up in the partisan ping pong.

No, we just recognize a racist, anti-semitic, misogynistic, homophobic, isolationist pig when we see one. We minorities are pretty good at spotting them . We have to be for our own protection and we will be damned if we are going to let an egomaniacal pol like Paul give away our hard fought for rights to the states so they can deny them from us. Long live the federal government and the justice department.

I was saying that in support of him btw. Republicans as a 98% whole are idiots. I would not be registered one if not for Ron Paul. He's a good candidate in a sea of hopelessness and right wing fundamentalism. Obviously, he's the greatest threat to the Democratic party which is why they're always trying to discredit him, marginalized him, and say he's an extremist.

They said the same things about Obama. "America won't vote for a black man so really the race comes down to John Edwards and Hillary Clinton." "he isn't electable because he doesn't have much experience." "He's an extremist who pals around with Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright." etc etc. How soon we forget. The real reason I voted for Obama back then was because I liked Joe Biden, otherwise I probably wouldn't have voted for Pres. in 2008.

I hope Ron Paul can be the underdog that comes out on top this time for individual liberty's sake. The government has no business protecting me from myself. And we definitely need to bring our troops home and end the wars and close Guantanamo. Something Obama PROMISED to do and has yet to.

lol

oprah make me dizzy
looks like her bottom dentures need more denture grip

my fellow Americans embarrass me
i guess no empire ever lasts much more than 200 yrs
you would think with all of the history knowledge we posses we would not make the same moronic mistakes over and over again.
time to reboot.

The Paul supporters create sock puppet accounts and flag posts they don't like. It's in their manual or something. Go figure.

Keep up the good fight and have fun!

I've never heard of politicians taking random pictures at political events with whoever asks for one.

Right.

Ron Paul didn't know he was hanging out with Don Black, former American Nazi Party member turned KKK Grand Wizard and owner of the white supremacist Stormfront.org?

Ron Paul didn't know he was publishing racist, antisemitic, homophobic newsletters for over a decade?

Do you really expect anyone to believe that?

I never heard of Don Black until the smear campaigns of Ron Paul began, so who knows? Even if he did know who he is, this guilt by association crap is a lazy and unrealistic thought process. I know racists people. I know homophobic people. I know anti-semetic people. I know people who are none of those things. Even though I don't like those qualities about them personally, I don't act as if they don't exist in my presence.

Blah blah blah blah blah same shit different day. Obama is an extremist terrorist by your logic, right? Oh do you not remember? He palled around with Bill Ayers! "OH MY!" He went to Rev. Jeremiah Wright's church! "HEAVENS NO!"

This sort of rhetoric you're spewing is the same stuff Obama supporters denounced as non-sense in 2008 during his run for President. I didn't believe the Obama extremist terrorist rumors then and I DEFINITELY don't believe this 'Ron Paul is an extremist homophobe misogynist Nazi propaganda shit now.

So we have Paul who’s rhetoric is hostile to the 14th Amendment vs. Obama who’s actions are hostile to the 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th and 8th Amendments.

I'll agree with that, I'm not a shill for Obama.

But the point is, casting him as the "Constitutional" candidate is fucking ridiculous because of his 14th amendment stance.

None of them are safe without the 14th, that's the whole damn point. Without the 14th, states can do *whatever* they want.

Also, keep in mind, Obama ran on a partially constitutional ticket too.

Just because Ron Paul says he's going to do these things does not necessarily mean he won't go Neo-con if he actually got into office. Also, since he has few, if any, congressional allies, anything he would ever hope to achieve would be a completely uphill (if not impossible) struggle.

That being said, if he ran on some kind of compromise ticket in which he kept his ridiculously stupid Libertarian ideas to himself, I would vote for him over Obama.

I can't vote for Paul anyway. I'm a registered Democrat. I am just really pissed with Obama now and won't vote for him again unless he does a 360. I may vote for Paul if he is up against Obama but would rather have Obama replaced with another democrat.

So why are you flying the gay flag if you're going to vote for a man who thinks your right to marry and have civil rights should be left to the states like Texas and Utah to decide that you can't have those rights at their will? Sounds pretty damned self defeating to me.

Well, I heard what he had to say about gay marriage and I happen to agree with him. The government should have no say in it. I understand he doesn't agree with the gay lifestyle because he is straight. I don't agree with the straight lifestyle because I am gay. I just don't like a few of his economic policies and a few other issues but he is better than Obama. Obama sold us out and he should suffer the consequences.

Obama has been the best president for gay people in history. If you are not aware of his accomplishments, I suggest you educate yourself on the realities of the situation before making statements that have no basis in reality.

Please explain to me how Obama sold gay people out. I'm really curious because that does not gel with the record.

You're misconstruing his actual position on gay marriage.

Firstly, marriage is only sensical from a legal perspective for property and tax purposes. If the government has no place in marriage, it essentially has only social meaning. And since everyone already has the option of doing such a meaningless marriage.

Moreover, Paul's position is not to keep the government out of marriage, it's to keep the Feds out of marriage. In Paul's world, not only would states be allowed to ban it outright if they wished, other states probably wouldn't have to recognize it.

Also, I'd like to know what economic policies of his you support and why. Most of them are completely insane and would do absolutely nothing, at best, to help us get out of this recession.

He has sold everyone out, so that include gays. I'm not talking about gay rights.

A distinct minority of a few ragtag, extremist, left wing agitators whining continually like a playpen full of colicie crybabies who can't have their rattles the second they want them ,are totally irrelevant to an inevitable Obama victory. The President received 73% of all gay ballotts in 2008 and because of his accomplishments for the gay community will undoubtably raise that per centage in 2012. The politically naive rantings of a minority of dissenting radicals cannot change that truth or influence the opinions of the rational majority ,who recognize the monumental achievements of this administration and who see Obama for what he is--the best friend the gay community has ever had in the White House. Those who refuse to acknowledge those facts are either blind or willfully ignorant of the realities of Obama's respect and committment to the gay citizens of our country.

Ahh.... the extremist rhetoric from the chief disseminator of distortions, prevarications and misinformation has returned for the political season. Welcome back. Although your ultra fringe , radical contortions usually lack the cohesiveness to bind together your scattershot, all out assaults on Obama's integrity, I still prefer a sparring partner who is reasonably up to the task at hand. These brain dead, semi-retarded Libertarians crawling the board these days,like maggots on Ayn Rand's dead carcass, don't provide the intellectual challenge one needs to be at the top of one's game.
Now, as to your comment; you know as well as I do that you use preposterous irrelevancies to attack and draw blood form Obama so that you can feel justified in your rather pathetic dislike of a man who has done nothing but his best for the gay community. Being on the board of several national gay organizations, I can assure everyone that we rarely hear any real criticism of this administrations policies. But when we do,it is always the same crybabies who whine and kavetch about insignificant points untill the membership wants to bash them on their heads and drag them to the curb. But they are such an extreme minority ,that we simply wait for them to exhaust themselves and then proceed with the business at hand. For all I know, you could be that person I brought the gavel down on while you were flailing on the floor having your Obama Derangement fit. If it was you, I'm sorry...next time I'll wait untill you're done railing before bringing the meeting back to order
Now, as for sticking needles in your eyes? I don't recommend it, but if you insist, please feel free.
Your political blindness to the truth already puts you in a disavantageous position. I would hate to see you any more blind to political reality.

You can still vote for him

States rights whatever they may be, would not override the Constitution or Constitutional rights

They do now. Haven't you heard of the Defense of Marriage Act? Untill the federal government sets federal standards, why should I be denied the right to marry in Arizona and be allowed to marry in New York?Paul's prescription for turning this over to the states means that I would never be allowed to marry in 2/3's of the states. An idiotic social engineering experiment and one I will do everthing possible to prevent.
If you believe that Paul's isolationist policies of withdrawing from a dangerous world will ever be codiciled by the republicans in Congress, dream again. They will block him anyway they can and there is not one damned thing he can do about it. And Paul's wish to destroy Social Security , Medicare and Medicaid will be blocked by the Democrats and justifiably so. Presidents can only achieve things with the co-operation of Congress and if you think Ron Paul can simply act on his own to tear down the fundamentals of American society you don't have any clue as to how our government works. Do you really think you can get the two parties to go along with a radical libertarian agenda when Obama can't even get the simplest bipartisan acts through Congress? And if you think you can elect a libertarian president, senate and house to accomplish these changes, you are living in a dream world.

Yeah, he cares so much about the Constitution he'd abolish the 14th amendment, the only fucking part of the Constitution that gives the bill of rights any meaning at all.

If you support this man on constitutional grounds, you don't know anything about anything.

Says who? No one is happy about Obama's continuation of Bush policies.

What total bullshit. If it were not for liberals the conservatards would have trampled all over your and everybodies civil rights a very long time ago. We were ,and are ,your firewall and you don't even have the decency to be thankful for it.

But you are going to vote for him anyway.

Is there any way to get another Democrat in the race?

+^d

NO!

Americans Elect.

I wish.

And you aren't spamming?

How about when we get actual intellegent debate, instead of name calling. "Paultards?" Is that your argument?, a cartoon and an insult?

And your first post on this thread has been posted (word for word) on every article about RP, Spam much??

I would call you an Obamatard, but I encourage civil debate and will not sink to your level.

Sorry sweetie

right?

Yes, Portugal finally decided to treat addiction as a disease and not a crime, by letting the Dept. of Health tackle the drug issue, instead of the Dept. of Justice. And Obama...... doesn't give a shit.

Name calling with no argument... Exactly what we all expected from you.

Atheism is a religion....

And thanks for the characterization, but um... Allot of actual Christians, are considered "atheists" by the mainstream religious institutions.

Think Chris Hedges, I share about 90(some odd)% of the same views with him, from all I can gather following him for years....

Nope don't thump Bibles, and as you may have noted from comments on threads from your own submissions I'm quick to throw any book that warrants it, under the bus, does tend to include the Bible (or the corrupt shit-heads who wrote, edited, or revised it.)...

Not to take away from your defense against uni's ad hominems, but ... atheism is the lack of belief in any gods. That's all it is. It is not a religion.

Calling Ron Paul a racist, homophobic bible-belcher is one thing. However, imputing that to each and every one of his supporters is beyond fallacious.

Well what do you call someone who supports "a racist, homophobic bible-belcher?"

Your belligerent comments really distinguishes yourself from any "tards". Nice work!

One of my best friends is a different race than me, one of my other best friends is Jewish, my uncle whom I love very much is a homosexual, and I'm an agnostic, spiritually curious person. That said, I think Ron Paul is the best candidate because he is the ONLY one who wants to take on the military-industrial complex and crony capitalism.

But making snide remarks on the Internet to propagandize for my political masters would be so much easier than thinking for myself.

Claiming your best friend is blah blah blah is pretty lame - if you support Paul you support a racist, antisemitic, homophobic, bible thumping bigot - no matter who you claim to love or hang around with.

If what you say is true, which I find doubtful, you might want to google "cognitive dissonance" and take a critical thinking class.

Good luck

I've read and listened to Ron Paul's actual words. Not only I'm a near-certain (he's a politician, after all) that he is none of those things, but I could absolutely care less. In the grand scope of things, are we voting for a prom king or a president during a time of needing significant solutions?

Also, everything I said is absolutely true.

So deny marriage rights to your uncle?Too damned bad for him I guess.
" We should protect each states right not to be forced to recognize same sex marriage." Ron Paul
" There should be no affirmative action for any group including homosexuals." Ron Paul
" I think Don't Ask, Don't Tell is a decent policy." Ron Paul
" Homosexuals, not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced
them to hide their activities -Ron Paul

Even if your assertion of those who support Ron Paul is true, the flip side is if you Support Obama, you support a Fascist, Capitalist, Torture endorsing, Pig.

I see why you like this non rational discussion game!! :-)

Tell that to Obama.

I agree! The democrats need another candidate to run instead! I am actually surprised that he is seeking re-election, most people seem unhappy with his performance