Fox Ignores Ron Paul Coming In Close Third In Iowa. Declares Race To Be Only “Two Way”
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Anyone who has read a single word I’ve written about Ron Paul will know, without a shred of doubt, I am not a fan of Ron Paul. At all. That being said, WOW! Fox REALLY doesn’t like him! It’s almost a pathological hatred.I already knew Fox was not enamored of Ron Paul but tonight clinches it beyond any doubt. With over 90% of the votes in from the Iowa caucus, Ron Paul trails both Romney and Santorum (tied at 25%) with a very respectable 21%. This is close enough that any objective read of the results would be that it is a competitive three way race.
But we are talking about Fox. Ron Paul just gave a short speech urging his followers to keep fighting on to New Hampshire. MSNBC showed it. CNN showed it. Fox? They had an empty podium on screen while they waited for Newt Gingrich to come out. Newt came in a distant fourth with only 13% of the vote but, for some bizarre reason, he was more important than Dr. Paul.
I’m actually defending Ron Paul and agreeing with his supporters that Fox News is treating him like dirt under their fingernails. For that reason alone, I will hate Fox until the day I die.
I’m going to cry myself to sleep now.
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unimatrix0
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Paul, swimming in a sea of Romney's Santorum, sinks.
We watch, and laugh.
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JustZ
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While Ron Paul allegedly didn't write these racist diatribes in the newsletter that had his name on it, he apparently never told those who did write it --- to stop it either.
Staying silent when racists rants are published in a newsletter with your name on it, is tacit endorsement. Therefore- Paul is a racist and should not be allowed to occupy the Senate, much less the White House.
You can't talk your way out of this one Senator Paul.
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JustZ
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JustZ:
Why didn't members of Congress, especially the Black members, call him out on the racist newsletters then? Why doesn't the media ever ask that question?
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maasanova:
They did. You just weren't listening. Nobody was as he was considered a fringe wacko back then. Try Google, you'll find a number of links to articles before 1995 written about his newsletter.
Next time, don't present assertions as facts. - 1 year ago
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lazloman:
The racist newsletter story only broke in 2007 and has been repeatedly brought back up again and again ad nauseum and continues today as if they were written yesterday.
So where was Congress on the matter of the newsletters before 2007 if this was such a huge controversy that the media is playing this up to be?
I've tried Google, but my search was unsucessful. Perhaps you could provide a link to members of Congress addressing the issue of the newsletters back from when they were circulated.
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maasanova
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NPR ignored him this morning.
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PigFarmington:
I listen to NPR ever morning and Indeed they did. That's because NPR is part of the "entitled club" and support the status quo as they appear to be in some sort of oppostition to it or at the least non-biased.
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maasanova
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PigFarmington:
Yes, they have been ignoring him and you can actually tell they are a little bit uncomfortable when they have to talk about him.
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Add a comment (You can paste links too)he wasnt that close. and he needed to win to have a shot overall. not that it matters cause he is the same corporate slave that mitt, asssplooge santorum, and obama are. even if we pretend the candidates or winners even matter, there is such a thing as must wins in order to be considered viable down the line, and ropa never was and never will be.
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You know what ive noticed. The right wing pundits like beck hannity and limbaugh. Talk worse about ron paul than they do obama. I just saw today glenn beck try to tie paul to george soros. Trying to paint as a george soros globalist. On the other hand he thinks santorum is the next george washington...
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ibrake4rappers13:
while i would NEVER advocate the torture/murder of another human (at least not in an open forum) i would love to see beck and olbermann in a blender. they are the same ranting rabble rousing idiot in two skins, from opposite sides.
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HarukoHaruhara
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I think "three-way" and "Rick Santorum" are an entry on Urban Dictionary.
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HarukoHaruhara:
Where did you hear such a thing? I do declare!
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HarukoHaruhara:
actually, santorum is the frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex. the milkshake that brings all the boys to the yard.
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Third place is no place. Bye, bye Ronnie and take your racist, misogynist, anti-semitic, homophobic anti-government crap with you. My closet door is open , or else I'd tell you not to let it hit you in your bony ass on the way out.
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Not sure how much of the coverage you watched but Paul was given plenty of air time. I was up most of last night for health issues and watched plenty of coverage from FOX...Santorum got most of the air time
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Fox News ? who'd be caught dead watching that network ? Once they get caught for phone tapping they will be in the dumper anyway..Oh, they were...well, maybe next time....
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nikonwilly:
My sentiments exactly! FOOLS NEWS is for FOOLS.
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They may ignore him but he's so far from the mainstream that most everyone should.
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DEM46:
Because being Mainstream means worth listening to.
What?
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Ron Paul is the Democrat's Republican.
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http://undertheradarmedia.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=4077
What's wrong with this picture?
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maasanova
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maasanova:
The total percentage only adds up to 89%. Perhaps they messed up Gingrich's numbers. Nobody checks for accuracy at Fox.
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WakeUpPeople:
Well that too, but they likely didn't include other candidates.
More importantly though, FOX News states "Paul surges into second" as he is clearly in the lead at 23%!
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maasanova
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maasanova:
Unless they messed up Gingrich's numbers in the graphic.
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maasanova:
In the graphic, is that a tissue box above S______m's head?
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I wonder who FOX wants to win. Not Paul, obviously, as this story will attest, and probably not Romney either (don't tell me that Obama's face where Romney's should've been was a mistake). Huntsman's probably done because he stayed out of Iowa and Bachmann and Perry have dropped out. So, that leaves FOX with S______m and Gingrich.
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Well ok, I get all this. FOX are a'holes: what's new? The Libertarians complain about unfair treatment by MSM: what's new? The GOP is fine with Paul as long as he stays in his sandbox: what's new? A 3rd party effort is a disaster for the GOP: absolutely.
So I'd really like to hear from Paul supporters why this is happening. Why is the Ron Paul threat so serious that it must be destroyed at all cost? - 1 year ago
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rerushg:
It's happening because he'll dismantle the corporate controlled fed, and free the states to do as they please. That threatens the current regime and the MSM mind control scheme to keep us all eating their bullshit and making them money.
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Buddha2112:
Ok. Fine. I understand that's part of the Libertarian platform but I don't seriously believe that if shit-truly-happened and he got elected that he would get anywhere near pulling that stuff off. What? He gets elected with a Dem Senate and Rep House and he's going to get something profound done? I don't think so.
Good answer but I don't think that's it. - 1 year ago
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rerushg:
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=17183
Check the video. It goes over the 2008 campaign and the current campaign.
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Buddha2112:
'' free the states to do as they please." I think we once fought a war over that, didn't we? Yes , that will solve every problem in America--create 50 different little fifedoms with 50 different political operations and 50 different rules on everything . Anarchist chaos. Excuse me ,Libertarian anarchist chaos.
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rerushg:
Well he is the only candidate that DOESN'T want to start another damn war...he's got my vote
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rerushg:
He doesn't want a war with Iran.
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Buddha2112:
"It's happening because he'll dismantle the corporate controlled fed, and free the states to do as they please"...
Not on your life! THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, not the INDIVIDUAL STATES OF CHAOS. If you leave everything up to STATES... you might as well kiss this country goodbye because people left to their own devices, are basically selfish idiots with zero awareness of the dire consequences until its too late.
Wow, just think about it jughead... the south could bring back slavery, the north could bring back child labor in factories, the west could allow you to cook/sell/use meth in your garage, and the east could build casinos to replace those pesky schools.
You can almost hear Yakov Smirnoff right now... "Wow... what a kuntreeee!"
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joeredford:
Joe, as you know and I know the beating of those "States Rights" drums were because the Southern States wanted to keep slavery legal. And long before the Civil War, when Congress admitted a new state into the Union they were obligated BY LAW to have one state enter as a slave state and another as a free state to keep the numbers equal so no one could gain the upper hand.
So, whenever I hear someone cry out, "States Rights!", it rings that "history bell" for me by reminding me of the clamoring of certain states that "SLAVERY SHOULD BE LEGAL"!
That's what the Rethuglican/Teavangelista Party reminds me of and what they want to take this country back to!
Only this time it will include the middle class and poor of ANY creed, color or race! So, when they say they're not racists...you better damn well believe it!
They'll put ANYONE in shackles, no matter what color you are!
UNLESS....you've got a lot of the color "green" in your pocket....as in MONEY, that is!
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JustZ:
Is that really that different from how it is now?
You can't dictate to people what to do with they're own devices.... You saying you want to legislate selflessness and awareness? Good luck.
Slavery still exists, child labor still exists, drugs are still cooked and sold... And all the regulation in the world won't stop it, just push it on another country and we'll reap the benefits. Yea, that's MUCH better.
That's a much better plan than trusting the people and allowing them to choose for themselves.
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joeredford:
Yes free the states. When the Fed overstepped its bounds the country divided as it rightfully should have. The issue was hardly about slavery, seeing as even the north maintained slaves even after the Emancipation proclamation. So clearly, it wasn't about that like everyone likes to believe.
It's not chaos, it means having to WORK and be ACTIVE in your state in order to maintain freedom and peace. It's up to you and you alone. It's clear we can't depend on the Fed to do things correct.
So why are we so adamant about stripping away our power as the people by voting for these nuts that want to expand government and deny our rights?
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Buckeye_Bill:
It had little to do with slavery... What history bell are you ringing? It had everything to do with the Feds trying to dictate what the states could or couldn't do. Whether what they wanted to do was right or wrong, it doesn't make the Fed correct to try and dictate that, all the while ignoring the slavery in the north. It was about CONTROL. Lincoln could have given two shits about slaves.
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Buddha2112:
Tell everyone who has been fighting for decades for their rights that you wish to turn those rights over to the states, 2/3 rds of which will deny those rights becuse they are run by Republican asswipes like Walker , Kasich, Scott and Snyder , and then get back to me with the consensus of opinion. It's easy for people who have never been discriminated against to talk about states rights when they have no personal stake in the war to retain their dignity and personhood.
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Buckeye_Bill:
Something tells me the teatards,rethugs and Paulbots would get their kicks out being pilloried.
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joeredford:
They take turns..., "Today, I'll be the sadist and you be the masochist, okay?"
LMFAO!
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Buddha2112:
Buy books, build schools...hire teachers....
That was the beginning of the SERIOUS "States Rights" talk, don't you know! It didn't take too long after those who realized that slavery is not conducive with a free society and intelligent people but the Southern states fought it tooth and nail by yelling at the top of their lungs how each state has the right to decide if slavery would be their legacy.
Until then, the conversation was limited to who pays for road development and etc.
All ya gotta do is google it and have your "listening ears" on while reading historical facts.
Okidoki?
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Buckeye_Bill:
Libertarians suddenly go deaf whenever truth enters the room.
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joeredford:
I would wager it's the other way around...truth wouldn't want to share the same space with those who find it an inconvenience to be near IT!
LMFAO!
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Buckeye_Bill:
LMFAO right along with you.
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joeredford:
if more power went to the states that would mean the people would actually vote and not leave it up to their elected officials to decide for them right? sounds like i would be represented even better that way
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tubagodd:
That worked out real well in Wisconsin, Ohio, Florida ,Michigan and Maine didn't it? 5 right wing repbublican Governors and state houses that immediatley started stripping union rights, voter rights, abortion rights and civil rights from their citizens. Yep, that works out real well , if you like living under Nazi rules.
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They of course fear he'll go ahead and run as a 3rd party candidate and take away from whoever their establishment anoints as their candidate.
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MSII:
He's made it clear he won't run third party. And the people have made it clear he has a strong chance as a republican.
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Buddha2112:
Yes, that's why in came in third, and that's his high point. Enjoy it while it lasts, Paul will stick around to be a thorn in everyone's side... but he is so much dead meat, the flies should start laying their eggs now. Those maggotts need to time to dispose of the body.
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This is just an excuse for the Paulbots to bitch and moan. Anybody with half a clue knows FOX is not a legitimate news source but a cheer leader for the Republican party.
And it has been obvious for years that Paul is a Republican in name only, and Republicans hate and fear Paul much more than the dems. Dems love Paul because they make Republicans look even more crazy and extreme than they really are.
FOX recognizes the fact that Paul is a divisive and toxic force in the Republican party. Paul hurts the GOP - not all Republicans can stomach the racist, homophobic, antisemitic, little creep.
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unimatrix0:
That doesn't make any sense. Even the Democrats hate him, probably almost more because he sweeps Indepedents in the polls. The reason the GOP doesn't like him is because he's not racist, doesn't hate muslims, and doesn't want endless war and a runaway government.
If you look at the polls over the last few years, Paul is the direct opposite of divisive and toxic. He has unified more people under the idea of Freedom and the Constitution than any other candidate to date. You want divisive, look at Obama, or the rest of the GOP.
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Buddha2112:
Democrats think Paul is a joke - he has no effect on Democrats. Paul is a great punching bag for Dems, his racism and bigotry make him an easy target.
As for being toxic, anyone who has spent anytime on the internet knows that Ron Paul and his supporters are one of the most toxic and divisive forces online. Indeed, one need only look at the community here at Current to see that.
Your claim "He has unified more people under the idea of Freedom and the Constitution than any other candidate to date." is simply silly. Paul is a fringe candidate, nothing more. The majority will never support that silly little twerp.
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unimatrix0:
If he has no effect on Democrats, why are you so dedicated to slander him?
If he's such a joke, why waste your time?
If you weren't afraid, if you weren't worried, you wouldn't bother at all.
Instead, your putrid attacks actually help elevate Paul to the Headlines. Whether its good press or bad press, you've brought him more press than most people on this site! Great job.
I think most of his supporters are some of the most enthusiastic, and most are open to clean debate. That's what scares people the most.
If Paul was so divisive, would we all be coming together on posts like this?
Most of us actually debate REAL issues rather than spouting "RACIST!!! HES A RACISTTTSS BLAHHH"
So even if you disagree with him, HIS ideas are bringing about MUCH needed debate... For better or worse. And I actually welcome people to discuss the REAL ideals on the table. The main problem is so many people can't get past the MSM talking points and think for themselves. You can disagree with him, I tend to have a few disagreements, but overall he's the only one with a different plan.
Paul has proven again and again he is no longer on the Fringe. You argue with a mass of his supporters DAILY. And his name has been in the headlines on this site AGAIN and AGAIN. Why is there so much fuss about a Fringe candidate? Hmmm... Looks like you have the wrong definition of fringe.
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Buddha2112:
Is it slander if its true?
I speak out against Paul because the truth is important, and the Paultards are liars or ignorant, and either way they stand in need of correction.
The fact that you try to claim Paul is anything other than a fringe candidate only makes my point. Any objective source recognizes that Paul is a fringe candidate with no real chance.
The fact that you think my attacks elevate Paul is flattering, but silly. No one individual has that kind of power.
Finally, I do it for the lulz! And so I thank you for the lulz.
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Because he IS a joke and it's so much fun watching Paulbots squirm denying the truth without investigation.
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unimatrix0:
Ron Paul is to Rethuglicans what Ralph Nader was to Democrats!
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I don't find this surprising at all. How is anyone surprised about this, it's fox news. This isn't even news, its ommon knowledge. Obama's the lesser of two evils because EVERY republican canidate is a joke and the idea of a new leftist democratic or liberterian party is delusional
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I detest Fox News. I never relied on it for anything political. If I was flicking through channels and came across Fox news and they were talking about sports or the weather I might stop and watch briefly.
After the disgusting treatment of Ron Paul, I am going to use the parental settings on my TV to block Fox news so I can't even incidentally or accidentally watch it.
I also now hate, (such a strong word), the Republican party after their treatment of Ron Paul. I am an independent always have been, equally distrustful of both parties. But I now loathe the the RNC more than the DNC.
The RNC and the Party Apparatus are supposed to help the winners of Republican primaries get elected after they get the nomination. They are supposed to be NEUTRAL during the Primary contest, not handpick the nominee.
GOP talk show hosts and Republican strategists like Dee Dee Benkie brag about how the GOP establishment is actively taking part to make sure Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination. Establishment figures like the Governor of Iowa, Terry Branstad publicly and repeatedly said if Ron Paul wins Iowa, it doesn't count and Iowans should just ignore the result. This is the Governor of Iowa, essentially telling Iowans how to vote and if by the democratic process of voting Ron Paul wins, it doesn't count. The will of the people does not count. And then Chris Wallace of FOX NEWS parrots the same thing, that if Ron Paul should wins Iowa, Iowa doesn't count.
Do you ever recall a time when the Party Apparatus (which includes their respective media) was so active and so blatant in trying to color and manipulate who gets chosen to win the Republican nomination?
They are supposed to be just neutral machinery during the primary process, instead they are hyper-active partisan participants. The Primary process is supposed to be the will of many everyday people from the bottom Up. Not the will of a few being enforced from the top down. The process is supposed to be democratic(many people from bottom up) in nature, not oligarchical (a few elite from the top-down).
For whatever reason the RNC, State Party GOP Establishment Leaders, and Fox news not only hate Ron Paul, but they even hate, fear, and distrust the will of the Republican grassroots members to the point where they are now actively involving themselves in what should be an honest, RNC influence free, democratic process made by the grassroots Republican party members.
LIBERALS AND THEIR MEDIA NETWORKS ARE MORE FAIR TO RON PAUL THAN FOX NEWS AND THE ESTABLISHMENT GOP! While liberals and progressives may not agree with Ron Paul at least they can appreciate diversity in view points and more importantly, they give Ron Paul a fair hearing to make his case. Under orders of the GOP establishment Fox News and so called conservative media outlets, are maliciously blacking out Ron Paul as if he doesn't exist.When that fails they spend all their efforts denigrating Ron Paul.
The worst is the "unelectable" moniker Fox News strategically employed over and over again 24/7 in the week right before the Iowa caucus. There is nothing more condescending to ever come from the MSM than to tell you who is electable and who is not. Implicit in this super arrogant assertion is that the media decides who gets elected and you don't. You don't have free will and you don't live in democratic society.
No other Republican candidate in history has ever had to overcome such a handicap that's being Imposed.... BY THEIR OWN PARTY!
I can't believe how biased and corrupt, the RNC, the Leaders of the Republican state-wide parties, and GOP establishment have become and how partisan and hyperactive the party apparatus has become in what should be a neutral and democratic primary process, all in the name of stopping Ron Paul.
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Dagum:
I don't agree with Ron Paul on the issues (save a few), but I agree with everything you just stated. +^d
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Dagum:
"I am going to use the parental settings on my TV to block Fox news so I can't even incidentally or accidentally watch it."
- hey now, there's a great idea! I like it! - 1 year ago
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WakeUpPeople:
Thanks. Part of it for me as an independent is figuring who would be the ideal candidate for the respective parties?
Obviously the two parties are supposed to be different and the American People are supposed to be presented with an actual choice.
If I could pick my ideal Republican Presidential Candidate I would pick Ron Paul.
Likewise, if I could pick my ideal Democratic Presidential Candidate I would pick Dennis Kucinich.
Why? Both these men have complete political philosophies and platforms that are internally consistent within themselves. More importantly these two men actually have integrity. The courage to follow their convictions. They haven't been corrupted by the system.
It would be nice to have these two men winning their respective parties nomination and running against one another. For the first time American voters would actually have a real choice, instead of two "moderates" right of center and left of center candidates, whose rhetoric may be slightly different but whose actions as president will be identical.
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Dagum:
I gotta funny 4 U.....if you took all the vowels out of Reince Priebus, their RNC spokesperson...what's left?
RNC PR BS....that's what!
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/369992/january-05-2011/wh...
LMFAO!
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What's even funnier they say Romney clearly won when it was an 8 vote diffence (http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/state/ia). Whereas in the past even 200 vote differences were called TIES.
Here's the big picture though... Paul, Romney, and Santorum got 7 pledged delegates each. Last night CNN had Romney listed with 17, (11 unpledged) trying to make it seem he won the state outright, but if you were smart enough to check this morning you'd be pleasantly surprised to see Paul won just as much as the others.
It's a THREE WAY TIE. More LIES. CNN also cut off a Soldier speaking on behalf of Paul right when he got into his support of his foreign policy.
Only later when Paul took his speech time and let the soldier come back up, did he get to finish speaking.
Here's the cut-off: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TSxm2V8aVQ
And here's his second chance after most viewers stopped watching: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lNbiIdraso&feature=g-all-u&context=G2e0f...
If anything... CNN is JUST as bad as Fox. It's the MSM in general, not just Fox.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B0QPcoTZg
At least 'real news' sources knows who to follow.
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"The only thing we have to fear is Fox itself."
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I have to agree that is pretty obvious and far from fair and balanced.
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http://www.dailypaul.com/199221/cnns-dana-bash-is-worried-about-ron-paul
Horse-faced CNN reporter Dana Bash said that she was and "worried" about Ron Paul.
This rhetoric is standard all across the board on every major "news" outlets and nearly all of the controlled media outlets.
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I don't support him either but seeing the way the media treats him is making me think twice. I know I won't be voting for Obama again and since most delusional democrats still support him. I think it is time we start a new party for real liberal Democrats.
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LT4456:
The Centrist Party!!! What America really needs, something to save us from the extremist of the far right and the far left.
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LT4456:
I'm all for a new Progressive party! Amazing how people of "the right" can hate the idea of progress so, I mean it's what the original settlers were coming for, a "better" life, to escape the stifling "conservatism" (status qua) of the countries they were fleeing.
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LT4456:
I'm 100% behind a Progressive party! It never ceases to amaze me that "the right" are so full of hate for progressives when they claim to be all about the "real", "true" america, and it's original principals, original founding beliefs. Well it's founding people came here for progress, they came to escape the stifling "conservative" status qua of the nations they were fleeing, they came for a -better- life for "progress".
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LT4456:
Support third parties all you want, but if the vote comes down between Obama and one of the main republicans are you really going to not vote? Sometimes one must choose between the lesser of two evils.
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NickerBocker09:
I'll vote for Gary Johnson or not at all. I voted for Ralph Nader in 2008. I refuse to vote for someone I don't think should be President.
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Buckeye_Bill:
I intend to vote for Ron Paul in the primaries, and then probably the Libertarian canidate in the general. It's my vote, so I get to cast it as I want. And I flatly refuse to vote for someone that should not be President just because they are the media picked lessor of two evils. Keep supporting the two party monopoly that has given us George Bush and Barack Obama, I'm sure they appreciate it.
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JohnA:
Then why waste the gasoline, wear and tear on a vehicle, paper ballot - if that's how you vote in your precinct, time and effort if you're going to cast a useless vote?
Save the environment in your own small way and stay home on November 6th, 2012 and that way you can say you've done your part in helping the world!
Then I would be proud of you.
But to take up space in a line where those who do wish to vote isn't a good thing, now is it?
It's like someone who's in line at a water fountain and when it's their turn to slake their thirst they walk away without taking a sip.
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Buckeye_Bill:
Still have to vote in local elections, don't I? Besides, I get to make my opinion known just like you, sorry to break it to you. It is important for all Americans to make their will known, and I will not support the status quo. Sorry. Hopefully with all these 99% around, I won't be the only one to show my utter disgust at the poor choices the two parties have given us.
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Buckeye_Bill:
You know, I really should be asking why you are wasting your vote. Since Obama and whoever the Republican canidate is (unless it's Ron Paul) will be exactly the same, who is really wasting their vote here?
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LT4456:
So 88 % of all Democrats are delusional, I think your casting aspersions in the wrong direction.
But if you want to be part of the 12% that are genuinely delusional and allow one of the authoritarian Republican 6 in to finish the destruction of the country they started with Bush, don't blame us , blame yourself. - 1 year ago
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JohnA:
The difference? One is choosing a head cold versus the Spanish flu.
Oh...and what is displayed in this video, too!
Guess which one is the deadly flu....hint it starts with an "R"!
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JohnA:
"You know, I really should be asking why you are wasting your vote."
I shall use your words against you....what difference does it make whether they're local, state OR federal elections as there's no difference, right?
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!
Check and mate!
NEXT!!!!
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Buckeye_Bill:
Local and state elections are much more important, as they should be. I don't give a fuck what the liars and thieves in Washington do, they can all go to hell, but if I need a pothole filled, I want to know who I can call.
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The deadliest starts with an "F", Federal government, Rs and Ds are just two sides of the same corrupt coin. No difference.
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JohnA:
it's amazing to me how there are those that abhor facts. That run away from reality. That deny truth.
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JohnA:
" I don't give a fuck what the liars and thieves in Washington do..."
Just where in God's Name do you think those that run for FEDERAL OFFICE come from but local politics?
Those that THINK there's a difference between local politics and national politics are just fooling themselves!
Give me...no YOU a break!
Oh...why did you "change" your Current account name from JohnAdams to JohnA?
Jus' curious....oh, forget it, I'm not THAT curious.
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Fox dislikes anyone who is serious about corporate reform or reducing the size of the military, as Paul advocates. I'm not a Paul fan either but he is talking about some important issues other candidates run from, like why we still have tens of thousands of troops in Europe and the Far East 60 years after the end of WWII and 20 years after the Berlin Wall came down. He's suggesting we must choose democracy or empire, as Chalmers Johnson did. That shakes up the imperialists no end.
Check out www.democracyorempire.org which is conducting a "Vote on America's Future" during the New Hampshire Primary next week. This effort is supported by a coalition of groups including unions, NH Veterans for Peace, and others to poll voters about their national priorities. - 1 year ago
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Ron Paul is a treat to the establishment. That is exactly what we need.
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MotherForTruth:
Ron Paul is a threat to anyone who has a brain. His followers are stoned on weed 90% of the time and zoned out the other 10%.
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joeredford:
Stoned on weed? You sound like a Republican now.
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JohnA:
Because I make a comment on the fact based reality that Paulistas are stoned a great deal of the time doesn't mean I don't want intrusive , ridiculous drug laws overturned. Your logic escapes me.
From casual use to frying your brain, it's none of my business or the governments. My concern is that Paulistas are more concerned with legalizing weed than they are with the devastating social impact of a Ron Paul presidency. But mostly I just enjoy needling libertarians who are the most politically naive and unsophisticated people on earth. I enjoy exposing their twisted inconsistencies. And,since Paul will never be president, or anyone of importance for that matter, I find it amusing watching them scurry around in their little cages like rats in a maze laboring under the delusion that Paul will ever granted any access to conduct his perverse ideas of social engineering. or install his warped interpretation of the Constitution on an unsuspecting society. This country sure as hell isn't perfect but most people are smart enough to understand that Ron and Rand have more than just a few screws loose.
Now, if you will excuse me, I have a few lines waiting for me on my glass coffee table. - 1 year ago
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Wrong.
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Well said Joe! Bravo!
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It seems as if last year is bleeding over into this new one. We just can't seem to shake the trolls, can we? I'm about ready to hang up my "Current Cap" and call it a day...since there seems to be no way the Current staff can do ANYTHING about the multifaceted alter-egos that keep reincarnating themselves faster than rats reproduce!
And when I take the time to post a thread for honest debate and it is hijacked by their insipid remarks that do not promote open-minded sharing of thought, I feel that it becomes an exercise in futility to make another attempt to do so.
I'm not particularly looking for those who agree with my opinions, but just to be conducive to another way of seeing things outside their comfortable "box" they, mostly, reside in.
Is that asking too much?
It's a pity, too.
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MotherForTruth:
Brilliant retort mommie dearest.
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