Obama says he doesn't even need NDAA to indefinitely detain Americans
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It's called "Washingtonspeak," and it's different than the rest of the English language. President Obama used some of it last week when he agreed to sign the National Defense Authorization Act that allows, among other things, the military to detain American citizens indefinitely, to conduct secret kidnappings of suspected terror suspects (even if they are Americans living on American soil), and murder of same if said suspect is deemed a threat to national security. All without a trial. All without any deference to any other constitutional protection.
Very mindful of what the NDAA truly authorizes, Obama, in signing the legislation, said this: "The fact that I support this bill as a whole does not mean I agree with everything in it. In particular, I have signed this bill despite having serious reservations with certain provisions that regulate the detention, interrogation, and prosecution of suspected terrorists. Over the last several years, my Administration has developed an effective, sustainable framework for the detention, interrogation and trial of suspected terrorists that allows us to maximize both our ability to collect intelligence and to incapacitate dangerous individuals in rapidly developing situations, and the results we have achieved are undeniable. Against that record of success, some in Congress continue to insist upon restricting the options available to our counterterrorism professionals and interfering with the very operations that have kept us safe."
"My Administration has consistently opposed such measures. Ultimately, I decided to sign this bill not only because of the critically important services it provides for our forces and their families and the national security programs it authorizes, but also because the Congress revised provisions that otherwise would have jeopardized the safety, security, and liberty of the American people. Moving forward, my Administration will interpret and implement the provisions described in a manner that best preserves the flexibility on which our safety depends and upholds the values on which this country was founded."
The president went onto say that the provisions in question - specifically Sect. 1021, which he said merely "affirms the executive branch's authority to detain persons covered by the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force." He describes the provision as "unnecessary."
President Obama stated: "Two critical limitations in section 1021 confirm that it solely codifies established authorities. First, under section 1021(d), the bill does not limit or expand the authority of the President or the scope of the Authorization for Use of Military Force. Second, under section 1021(e), the bill may not be construed to affect any existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States, or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States."
In other words, the president is using Washingtonspeak to say he already had the authority to do what the NDAA law merely "codifies." So the danger that many Americans, lawmakers and advocacy groups are concerned about is why this president claimed the authority to kill an American citizen in Yemen earlier this year who had not actually carried out any terrorist attacks against the U.S., but was only suspected of wrongdoing.
Is that how it works in America today? No more checks and balances? Or, are there checks and balances so long as the president interprets and implements in a manner that best preserves the flexibility on which our safety depends?
"If President Obama were committed to Constitution and international legal norms, he would veto this bill. Instead, he seems more concerned about consolidating the power of the Executive Branch at the cost of our legal and human rights," says the National Lawyers Guild. We agree. This is a terrible law, no matter how Obama and Co. try to spin it.
Sources:
http://obrag.org/?p=51825&cpage=1
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/01/w...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...
http://www.naturalnews.com/034560_Obama_NDAA_civil_liberties.html
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Paratus
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Our Dear Leader seems to find the Congress, as well as the Constitution, a bit of an impediment.
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Paratus
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Saladin
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Paratus:
Of course he already had the right. Ol' Georgie boy had all that stuff locked down during his term, and he wanted to go even farther.
The best you can do is claim Obama is a fraud for not stopping this, but you could never say it was all his fault. I know better.
You guys supported this shit (and still do secretly) when Bush was in office.
This is your nightmare, fucking own up to it. Whatever happened to that personal responsibility shit conservatives always ape on about?
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Saladin
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circlesquared
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he is right, he did already have the power to kill, let alone detain, any individual anywhere they wish...this bill is about so many things no one seems to be talking about. How about $680 Billion for the military without discussing a budget, how about the additional sanctions imposed on Iran, how about that it makes clear multiple living arrangements for troops living in the US...think they are coming home to protect you? Don't be belligerent and watch what you say or they'll soon be knocking on the door. The detention part only details it out for clarity and acts as a misdirection for our ire...not that anyone is acting on our behalf anyway. They have successfully without pointing it out to the public kept the funding and support for war rolling.
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circlesquared
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Crauly_Fingers
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Bush 2.0 this guy is one lying sack of poo poo endangering the entire
American species.The wording of the bill speaks for itself and will live on forever.Thanks Puke sack!Seig heil show me your papers. - 5 months ago
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Crauly_Fingers
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nikonwilly
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I'm so tired of hearing this same excuse, ' keeping YOU safe '...what a crock of Bull sh*t !
They know the collapse is near! - 5 months ago
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nikonwilly
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dinm76
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Maybe someday Obama will wake up and realize that we're not all as dumb as he thinks we are.
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dinm76
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Buddha2112
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dinm76:
If people vote for him again, he'll know we are still just as dumb.
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Buddha2112
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PoliticalAmazon
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And yet, there are still an extraordinary number of Democrats who will vote for Obama in 2012.
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PoliticalAmazon
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Varex_Sythe
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PoliticalAmazon:
As opposed to voting for whom?
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Varex_Sythe
