Homeland Security monitors journalists

that song kick so much ass and is more relevant now then ever :

The song is more applicable today than when it was written. It was written just a few short years after Dwight D. Eisenhower warned of both the Military Industrial Complex & those small group of millionaires and billionaires mostly from Texas who would do away with social security/Medicare and Ike warned if they did it would be the end of that party. namely the GOP today. Ike also said they were crazy. From a republican who wouldn't be one today. It's far worse today than back then, we're being lied to everywhere from media to education. From corporate CEO's to elected officials. Our problems are running far deeper today than when CSN&Y made that song a hit.

Obviously not in USA

How? From Abu Ghraib?

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You may laugh and make fun as is typical of your rude behavior, but in the 21st century the world we live in is a globalized world with globalized threats and only the well trained professionals of the D.H.S. can protect the American fatherland from those who refuse to submit to the will of the community of nations.

Motherland??? Didn't Adolf call his the Fatherland???

Pot calling the kettle black...thanks for the good laugh.

Forget it dude....just shake your head in disbelief and move on you are wasting your time. Sadly the majority of Americans share her beliefs, they are called brainwashed.

Will Do, Thanks... =)

Your nuts if you think they are working for the people of this country!

Thank you. I can sleep soundly, knowing some faceless geek is peeking in my windows.

Posters! Whose crazier? The one making crazy statements, or those wasting time focusing on crazy statements?

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Big wars, little wars, Red flag operations are our specialty...rates are adjustable.

Blue pill? Try the red one next time.

Debra, who will you be voting for?

Am I the only one who sees the humor in the sarcasm of this post. Debra.

Since when journalists are considered dissidents, and why American citizens loosing freedoms that our government preaches around the world?

I slightly disagree. There was a excellent documentary talking about the massive rise of the private sector "intelligence gathering community" on PBS not too long ago. I would have to say the size of the monitoring has very probably grown most significantly (judging by the documentary). The just insane degree of the so-called "intelligence gathering" by these private-sector "contractors" is just terrifying. You know 'the right" does love it's "privatizing" of everything.

Do you remember the name of this movie?

That's right!

Governments have always considered journalists they don't like dissidents. A dissident, broadly defined, is a person who actively challenges an established doctrine, policy, or institution. Most good journalists are dissidents.

Actually, with the digital revolution, it is now harder for gov. to keep secrets than ever before. Once info is digitized and on the web it becomes vulnerable to hacking from anywhere.

In the past info was stored on hard copy in a physical location, which made it harder to access and easier to protect.

Privacy for individuals and governments is quickly becoming a thing of the past, not because governments have changed, but because the technology has changed.

So let me see if I understand you correctly, even though everything you just said is true, you are saying that such Orwellian tactics are justified? That just because such totalitarian, Monitoring and or intrusion in our personal lives has become an accepted societal norm, that that makes it okay? just asking, please unambiguously clarify your position.

I am not saying they are justified, only pointing out that this is nothing new or unexpected.

I am sorry you have accepted this fearful way of life in America where journalists are considered dissidents.

Not in America.

Exactly! And again as many times before I agree with you tommic.

thanx

If nothing else this is exactly the reason we need someone like Ron Paul. As a civil rights attorney I trusted that Obama would stand for our civil rights. I was wrong.

But would Ron Paul not take away a lot of the things that protect you from corporate dishonesty and greed? Just a question.

Jim, you have a valid question. In my opinion, many recent presidents including Obama have helped the corrupt and greedy corporations and the government agencies that supposed to be the watchdogs are just as corrupt. To restore America we first need to scrap all loopholes and remove friendly cooperation between corporations, law makers, politicians, lobbyists and presidents. When I voted for Obama in 2008 I believed Obama's "change". I was wrong. My choice this time is Ron Paul.

But as I understand it, Ron Paul wants to give them free reign. How would giving them free reign stop them from being greedy and corrupt?

His policies would get rid of loopholes. Because their would be no laws curtailing bad behavior on their part to get around. With no regulations, they could cooperate in any fashion that they saw fit. Deregulating in it's entirety, would allow Corporate America to do whatever it wanted, whenever it wanted, to whoever it wanted. They would simply have no laws to abide by.

How is closing corrupt government agencies that are in bed with corporations is less protection for you and I? We do not have any protections, we have a fake facade. Besides the changes would not be radical and sudden, it is a move in the right direction.

If the sheriff in your community isn't enforcing the law, you do not get rid of the law, you get rid of the sheriff. If Ron Paul becomes President, and in fact completely deregulates all industries, how will that make them better corporate citizens? Getting rid of laws curtailing bad behavior does not stop the bad behavior, it just makes it legal. I agree, your regulator commissions are not doing their jobs in the way they are supposed to. You need a President who will make these regulatory bodies stronger, not get rid of them all together. Without laws curtailing the bad behavior of Wall Street and Corporate America they will just do worse things in the future. Our regulatory bodies in Canada actually work the way they were designed to. If we were to get rid of them, we would be in the same position as you are. Banks in Canada could not offer sub-prime mortgages because we had regulations against them. We do not have lobbying in Ottawa because there are regulations against it. There is no Corporate money in politics because we have regulations against it. Our banks can not combine services because we have regulations against it. If your Glass-Steagall regulation had still been in place the financial melt down would have been impossible. If you were to get rid of the laws against speeding, do you think people would then slow down on the highways?

Are you sure the community sheriff does not enforce the law? It's possible that the law is bad, or lawyers made it in a such way that you can interpret the law in many ways. I believe we have it all; bad laws, corrupt lawmakers that make it easy for the greedy corporations to twist the law the way they want, and the history of leadership that is not interested in fixing these wrongs. There is nothing wrong with going back to a drawing board. There is no need for panic and fear the changes. Ron Paul or anyone else would ever be successful in deregulating instead he would push the country in the right direction starting with basic constitutional rights.

Now that seems sensible. But if he claims he wants to get rid of all regulations, what makes you think he wants to go back to the drawing board? I doubt he could completely deregulate the country too.

Media is not giving the opportunity for Ron Paul to define his plan. We hear just bits and peaces. There is no way he or anyone else can reverse the country to complete deregulation. Ron is the only consistent voice for constitutional rights, ending the wars and if needed to go to war it must be declared, take down corrupt and harmful government agencies that hide behind a facade. More wars, more loss of American citizen's rights will never give Americans security.

Again, that seems sensible.

Very well said! The right-wingers love to hate government saying it's all bad, no! BAD-government is bad!, in sane countries government works, but then of course the right-wingers have spent the last couple decades doing their damnedest to break government from the inside creating their self-fulfilling prophecy of broken government. I understand in sane countries people by and large like their governments, they don't mind paying higher taxes because they see real (sane) benefits from said taxes (unlike in the us, where they just seem to disappear into endless war-profiteering for the military-industrial-contractors for instance).

Thanks MSII. I have not heard anyone complain about their taxes in Canada in years. We see what low taxation is doing in the U.S.

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Bottom line for me is, no President stands alone. Ron Paul would bring along the Republicans. The Republicans say the stuff out loud. They care more about the rich, than the poor. They attribute everyone who is poor, as unworthy. As if they, or their cronies are? But, when they are in a place of leadership, the have's and have more's, get more. Sorry, but we have been there, done that and we are still paying the price.

The Republicans refused to participate during Barack Obama's Presidency. But, if they win, all will be well? Everyone will just get along? The Democrats will get in line and let them do whatever they want, because 'when they win, elections have consequences'?

No, I'm sorry Ron Paul is okay, but the rest are unacceptable. We can turn this thing around, but not with them gaming the system for the rich. We aren't all rich. We don't all aspire to be rich. Some of us are willing to accept and be happy with who and where we are. The glutney of the rich, is requiring ordinary Americans to accept less, so they can have more, more, more. They game the system to work in their favor and spin the rest of us against each other, with wedge issues, designed to divide. IMHO, they won't mind a little collateral damage. They will just move along, because they know we will. We 'move along' to everything.

No accountability, no shame, no justice. We just move along, even when it's wrong.

We need to start somewhere. Ron Paul is not traditional republican. I am sick and tired of both Republicans and Democrats. They climb to power with pocket full of money and then play politics against one another. Both are bad for American citizens. I believe Ron Paul stands out. He is equally "liked" by both parties. I believe he wants rich clowns in power stop playing with our lives and basic liberties that are spelled out in our constitution.

Look at all Ron's votes and see if you feel the same. He is better then most republicanism and some democrats but he would still hurt the poor and and the environment!

Do you really believe Obama will help poor and the environment?

No. At the moment I haven't seen a good candidate!

good question

Thanks cmc101... =)

Do not kid yourself there will be no revolution. Why they are doing it now and so openly? Because they can, Americans are in so much fear that many will even support it.

That is a excellent quote! Very timely!

That is just spectacular!!!

Thanks for sharing that one. I am saving it, so I can share it too. Thank you

You are welcome, Conniepae. Please share with everyone you know.