Bill Moyers: 'Capitalism is Out of Control Thanks, In No Small Part, to Citizen's United'
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Bill Moyers: "You cannot have a people's democracy as long as corporations are considered people..."
Bill Moyers believes that capitalism is out of control and there can be no people's democracy as long as corporations are considered people.
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Naumadd
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Hmm ... "people's democracy"? Sounds suspiciously like "socialist democracy" to me rather than a land of individual liberty. I can support the second but not the first, although I agree - a corporation, though made up of people, is not a person itself. It is an abstract.
People aren't abstracts. They are real. They breathe, they eat, they dream, they are happy and sad, elate and suffer, grow old and die. People form values, people decide their goals, people need respect for their choices and their lives, people need the liberty to express their opinions. People need a vote in matters concerning them.
Abstracts aren't people. They are wholly dependent on the will of actual people to survive or perish. They will always be inferior to a single human being and their right to live granted to them by other people - not corporations.
Or other abstracts, like "god".
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Naumadd
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dinm76
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CURRENT should give Bill Moyers all the airtime he wants.
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dinm76
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Truthitswhatsfordinner
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dinm76:
What is it with Current and the 1%ers? Olbermann and Moyers are in the 1%. More TYT!
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Truthitswhatsfordinner
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JustZ
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Thanks for the post Kennymotown! BIll Moyers is one of the last remaining 'journalists' in America today and I welcome his input anytime.
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JustZ
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kennymotown
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JustZ:
Your welcome Mr. Z!
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kennymotown
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truthglow
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JustZ:
Moyers and Olbermann.
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truthglow
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JustZ
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I'll believe corporations are people... as soon as Texas executes one.
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JustZ
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Truthitswhatsfordinner
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You got to believe him. After all he is in the 1%.
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Truthitswhatsfordinner
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fiberbundle
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Hey did it strike anybody else as interesting, that the Taney Court held that people are property; and the Robert's Court has upheld the view that property(corporations) is people?
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fiberbundle
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Mishima
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Thank goodness for Biily Moyers?
Bill Moyers is a paragon of hypocrisy. He tried to get Goldwater declared "insane" by psychiatrists, for example.
Moyers was the hunter of "suspected homosexuals" in LBJ's White House.
And in the Goldwater camp.
He helped Edgar Hoover in the bugging of Martin Luther King.
And Moyers "planted" questions in advance to reporters for LBJ's press conferences.
Moyers was nominated as one of the 50 most influential Progressives by Nation magazine, a rabidly anti-capitalist magazine that eulogizes Che Guevara and is devoted to the overthrow of free-market capitalism.
Moyers’ jeremiads are outrageous. He claimed that Bush and Cheney were "feeding on the corpse of war." Moyers compared people who wear American flag pins to people who adored the Little Red Book of the mass-murderer Mao.
Moyers asserted that the Republicans retaking the Senate in 2002 would unite D.C. behind "eviscerating" our environment. He hints that the rich, as a class have never really held jobs of any kind. Moyers also bemoans opinionated broadcasters who use florid language instead of dry recitation?
His hypocrisy knows no limits. Billybob Moyers denounced relationships between conservative foundations and conservative policy experts, while, at the same time, this miscreant was head of the Schumann Foundation. Moyers not only funded all his favorite left-wing institutions, he paraded them all across his programs that American taxpayer paid for!
Moyers denounces people for eating at the public trough in secret deals, but he specializes in profiting off PBS Home Video and other products he merchandises. Remember Moyer’s program "The Power of Myth," with new-age guy Joseph Campbell? There was an interesting program entitled "PBS: Behind the Screen." It exposed Moyers: He had entered into a secret kickback deal granting him a cut of the book proceeds to Campbell's book. It was one of many such deals Billy has made to “profit” from “NONprofit” television.
Moyers continues to funnel millions of bucks to ultra-leftist causes via his foundation. Moyers will certainly continue to lecture conservative parts of the country about their greedy desire for tax cuts, broadcast from his gorgeous apartment in chic section of Manhattan.
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Mishima
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PeteLeS33
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Mishima:
Boy mishima, what fuckin planet are you on??? Why not try the foux news website for your spewing of misinformation!!!!
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PeteLeS33
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fiberbundle
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Mishima:
"Bill Moyers believes that capitalism is out of control and there can be no people's democracy as long as corporations are considered people."
Do you agree or disagree with the above statement and why or why not?
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fiberbundle
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Mishima
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PeteLeS33:
No misinformation. The facts, just the facts, ma'am.
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Mishima
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chew_chew
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Mishima:
"There was an interesting program entitled "PBS: Behind the Screen.""
I was not able to find any information about the show, but I did find a book by that name. The author is Laurence Jarvic, an adjunct scholar at the Heritage Foundation. The Heritage Foundation is an arm of the Koch Bros. I have no faith in any information coming from the Heritage Foundation.
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chew_chew
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JustZ
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Mishima:
You do not know what you're talking about... on any level whatsoever. There is virtually nothing in your comment that is true. NADA! Stop spreading FOOLS NEWS lies here. We're not interested.
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JustZ
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PeteLeS33
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Mishima:
Dear Miss mishima,your effeminate cirtique of my comment is quite asinine....when you grow up then perhaps you can cirtique the comments here on Current. As far as calling me a CUNT . YOU my friend are in no position to judge.
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PeteLeS33
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Mishima
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chew_chew:
You need to check data and resist the indoctrination. I am a member of the Heritage Foundation. It exists primarily on individual donations. Take a look.
Of course, the Koch brothers donate, but that does not mean anything. Don't you donate to any organizations?
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Mishima
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Mishima
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chew_chew:
It is all true. Google it. All of it. Every single statement. Moyers is not what you think he is.
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Mishima
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Mishima
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PeteLeS33:
I do not get American television, so please let me know what this "FOX News" reports. Sounds interesting.
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Mishima
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Mishima
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PeteLeS33:
No need for vulgarity.
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Mishima
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PeteLeS33
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Bill Moyers has been one of the only sane voices in media that cannot be influenced. Though we at Current have one, and others trying to replicate, Moyers is still the standarad for which all others follow.
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PeteLeS33
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Truthitswhatsfordinner
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PeteLeS33:
I was curious as to whether you had any specifics to refute what Mishima wrote above?
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joeredford [removed]
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Truthitswhatsfordinner
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joeredford:
You assume too much. I am not agreeing with Mishima. Mishima laid out a point by point argument--whether one agrees with it or not. The other responder, did not address a single point. Dialogue!
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Truthitswhatsfordinner
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truthglow
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PeteLeS33:
I believe Edward R. Murrow is the standard for which all other REAL journalists follow, but Moyers is definitely fantastic. What is more, he is only one of two I can trust on TV. The other one is Keith Olbermann.
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truthglow
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nikonwilly
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Also been a fan since the ,Joseph Cambel ( Power of Mythology) interview.
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nikonwilly
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artemis6
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nikonwilly:
Me too .
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artemis6
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alanb4130_
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This is what I would love Bill to do when he comes back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGIY5Vyj4YM
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alanb4130_
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KB723
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Did he say HenWay???
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KB723
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kennymotown
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KB723:
What?
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kennymotown
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KB723
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kennymotown:
You know.... HenWay... =)
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KB723
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cmc101
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thanks for posting Kenny
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cmc101
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kennymotown
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cmc101:
Thanks!
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kennymotown
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jubal
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I agree with and admire Bill Moyers, I too am glad he is coming out of retirement.
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jubal
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kennymotown
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jubal:
He's a good man and just can't sit while this shit is pilling up!
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kennymotown
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Leen61
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Saw this last night. I'm glad Bill Moyers is coming back. His voice is needed right now.
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Leen61
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kennymotown
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Leen61:
Yes, for sure!
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kennymotown
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MSII
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Bill Moyers is a very smart sane, and deep thinker, glad he's speaking out!
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MSII
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kennymotown
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MSII:
Yes!!!!!
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kennymotown
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Truthitswhatsfordinner
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MSII:
Smart, sane, deep thinker, and a 1%er who has profited from capitalism. It's the whole package.
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Truthitswhatsfordinner
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oboith
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Kenny,
Peaceful is out of the question. The warlords are used to violent conflict, and they demand something to respond to to justify their illegal response. They demand battle..."Let them eat cake..." - 5 months ago
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oboith
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kennymotown
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oboith:
Indeed!
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kennymotown
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alanb4130_
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Any action that pushes back on Citizens United is a good thing.
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alanb4130_
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kennymotown
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alanb4130_:
Absolutely!
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kennymotown
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jimstoner
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Here is what I just read about Capitalism Without Failure. "Recent history of U.S. economics. 1) Rampant fraud and reckless mismanagement in the financial sector. 2) Bailouts of the worst actors in the financial sector. 3) Overwhelming debt and liability imposed on the taxpayer. 4) Reckless hair-of-the-dog monetary policy aimed at recapitalizing failing banks. 5) Promotion of business leaders and policy-makers who are chronically compromised. 6) Conglomeration of systematically dangerous institutions into a more empowered menace". You have to wonder if there was ever a larger organized crime entity than American politics and business?
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jimstoner
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kennymotown
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jimstoner:
The American Spring is coming, I hope it stays peaceful!
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kennymotown
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jimstoner
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kennymotown:
With the push back against the O.W.C. and the 99%. The rhetoric coming from the right through people like Newt King Grinch, and the use of the police as a para-military force against the public they have sworn to protect, I don't see how it can be peaceful. Unfortunately.
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jimstoner
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kennymotown
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jimstoner:
I also see it that way, people are getting pissed!
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kennymotown
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MSII
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kennymotown:
I don't know, there are a lot of truly evil scum who I wouldn't mind seeing up against the nearest brick wall. All the innocents some of these "people" are responsible for getting killed in recent history it would be justice for them to face execution.
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MSII
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artemis6
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jimstoner:
Can't think of one myself ....
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artemis6
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truthglow
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jimstoner:
You forgot to mention Obama. You can't believe this police violence has not been coordinated from the top. All of you Obama lovers had better come to your senses and read the tea leaves. He has been destroying our country from the start. He is not for we the people. We need to get the Dem/ReThug Fascist Corporate Monopoly out of power, before it's too late. Check out the Justice Party and Rocky Anderson for President. Anderson was a 2-term progressive Democratic Mayor of Salt Lake City and wants to get the money out of the political system. He also wants to get the corporations out. Of course, the corporate media has been censoring him. Go to justicepartyusa.net.
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truthglow
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truthglow:
I didn't mention Obama because I didn't mention any person. My post was not about police violence. That's not how this conversation started. It's a conversation about unrestrained capitalism. But I will add. Obama has not done the things he promised when it comes to reining in these people. I might also add that the countries problems did not miraculously begin the day Obama took office. He is guilty of not fixing the problems that were left behind. Something that is expected of every Democrat who takes office after a Conservative. If you think this escalating police brutality isn't a direct result of the Republicans making torture legal, then you do not understand the concept of mission creep.
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jimstoner
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kennymotown
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Capitalism loves Fascism!
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kennymotown
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MSII
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kennymotown:
Very important to say not all capitalism! Other countries have the sanity to control it's rampant cancerous nature. It's american laissez-faire-style-capitalism that is the absolute enemy of real freedom.
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MSII
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jimstoner
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MSII:
That's what regulations are for. Anyone, in a position of authority, who calls for deregulation, knows it can only lead to Fascism and that is what they want. Enter Republicans.
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jimstoner
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MSII
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jimstoner:
Preachin to the choir! preach it reverend!!, testify!!! :)
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MSII
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kennymotown
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MSII:
True story, but this version has gotten completely out of control!
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kennymotown