GOP HATE

The Tea Party patriots were vilified and reviled by the media.

If you want to go with the Goldwater scenario than I can take the way-back machine and did up all the dirt on you right wingers. Why don't you move back to the country that spawned your parents?

Leave it to an EXTREMIST to point out a very rare and EXTREME example, and imply that that was the norm, when it was decidedly not. Today there are no EXTREMES to which Republicans won't go to push their EXTREME agenda and their EXTREME elitism. There are no EXTREME lies they will not tell, no slimy rock they will not crawl under, no EXTREME propoganda they will not disseminate on the internet, no EXTREME lenghts to which they will not go to enact their EXTREME version of vulture capitalism and steal an EXTREME portion of the American pie and leave the middle class and the poor to fend for themselves. The Republican party of today is filled with EXTREMISTS, and the more it pushes it's supposedly 'moderate' candidate, ole Mitt for Brains Romney, to the right, the greater the chance that they will wind up in the same position as Goldwater. That is , in case you conveniently forget to remember, in an EXTREMLY huge election debacle.
Thank you for posting this ad from back then so others could see it. My grandfather was a delegate to the Democratic convention in 1964 in Atlantic City, so I'm very aware of it and remember it fondly. Although it was an overreaction to Goldwater's " EXTREMISM is no vice in the defense of liberty " speech at the Cow Palace in San Francisco, it helped set the tone for a campaign filled with examples of Republican EXTREMISM and led to a crushing defeat.
But I don't expect an EXTREME liberal baiter to relate to and understand any of that. You aren't my intended audience.

Why not follow the exchanges and see why I posted what I did? Then a post will make more sense. It might calm you down also. Please read the first post to which I responded and then you can put it in context. I am sure you will then write a more coherent and reasonable post.

I await your response. Thanks.

No, it is typical, of course. Try reading history and you will see that it was even worse in the early 19th century. You were claiming that this sort of thing did not happen in the past, but that was simply not true. I want to disabuse you of your false beliefs, that is all.

Perhaps you should educate yourself intead of constantty patronizing others by assuming they have no knowlege of any given subject. You know as well as I do to what period of time I was referring , and it wasn't the 19th Century. Any student of political history knows the vile state of political discourse that existed at certain times throughout our history. But in the time frame I was discussing, the late 50's-60's, eventhough the issues were divisive, the Republican party never stooped to the level of the modern day Republican party. Not even during their constant vilification of FDR and Eleanor, did they sink to the depths of lies and depravity with which they are more than willing to shame themselves today. Your party is unreognizable to anyone who lived through Eisenhower, Nixon and Ford. It wasn't untill the Reagan and George H.W. Bush that your party turned extreme hard right, and with the help of advisors like Lee Atwater became the party of gross misrepresentation and flat out lies. And then Atwater's vicious partner Rove took it to levels heretofore unseen in modern politics.
But you should know this , it's where your learned your distinctive form of liberal baiting you display every time you post here. Please direct your assassination tactics on someone more gullible because I sure as hell am not buying what your peddling.

You have your facts and history all jumbled up.

First of all, most people do not know how "vile" it actually was among the Founders; it reached points sometimes where they killed one another. I believe three of the signers of the Constitution and Declaration died in duels.

"the late 50's-60's, eventhough the issues were divisive, the Republican party never stooped to the level of the modern day Republican party"

What? what about Nixon?

And you are completely wrong about Reagan, of course. I am sure you will find some unusual examples and present them as though they were representative of a consistent pattern, but if you are honest you will see that the great Ronald Reagan was exemplary in not attacking people but attacking issues, especially the pernicious, destructive, immoral and malevolent LIBERAL ones.

I am not "baiting" Liberals, of course. I am simply writing truths. I have seen what Liberals have done to our history, our traditions, our education, our families, our economy. I pass the TRUTH about their invidious and reprehensible influence that they have managed to foist on many of the American people. But we are fighting back and will retake our country in November.

Your so called "facts" are nothing but your right wing interpretations of history. Go bait some other liberal so that you may twist their words to your owns ends and have a contentious disagreement with yourself.

"Interpretations?" Whaaaa?

The fact that three Founders probably died in duels is an "interpretation?"

Referring to Nixon as an example of a Republican stooping low is an "interpretation?"

Presenting FACTS - direct quotes - about the great Ronald Reagan is an "interpretation?"

Your relentless pursuit of this issue after I cleared up the fact that I was referring to modern history,and ignoring your deliberate attempt to distract from this issue at hand, let's me know that I was correct in my original judgement of you as a baiter. Therefore, I suggest that you take a breather--a long one--and after it's over, contact someone else on the board to play your games with. Typical conservative, let's not aaddress the question at hand, twist people's words so you can direct the conversation to your own ends, just like Gingrich and his arrogance at every debate. Which is exactly why I never found Nixon's tricks even half as offensive as I find every republican alive today. Have fun baiting the extreme lefties, Mishuganah.

Sorry that you do not like the facts.

But I CAN'T change them.

Sorry you don't know how to present them without your own spin.

You CHANGE them each time you put you fingers to the keyboard.

If you didn't you wouldn't be.........ah......who you are.

I wrote FACTS and nothing but the FACTS.

Sorry.

Great job with the video !
How can they cheer this hatred? They are scared ,resentful people who think they are losing their country. Most rational people accept diversity as the normal course of progress and celebrate it. These are the people who scream about "wanting their country back", as though it is their's and their's alone. The politics of division and hatred is all they know. It's a sad commentary on the state of American politics.

Excellent video and comment, thinkingblue!

Absurd. I stopped it because I started to get disgusted at the distortions and extremist propaganda.

First point:
A healthy 30 year old CHOOSES not to pay for health insurance and he goes into a coma.

Do you LEFT-WINGERS actually believe that the society should FORCE others to pay for the unwise and VOLUNTARY consequences of choices of others? If I decide to spend my money on booze and gambling for decades and wind up broke as a DIRECT RESULT OF THAT VOLUNTARY CHOICE, is society under an obligation – via force of government – to provide a “decent standard of living?” Is that how you people view “compassion?”

Next, “executions.” Perry said, “If you come into our state and kill one of our children, police officers, etc., you will face the ultimate justice.”

Well, well, well. Let’s see if a LEFTIST can be LOGICAL AND CONSISTENT for a change: The Left-wingers constantly drone on about helping the weak, those who cannot care for themselves, and the helpless, right?

Well, what else is an UNBORN CHILD EXCEPT THAT?

But no, no, no. The Left fights for the right to life of a convicted murderer of police, children or other innocents, but yet advocates to let doctors END THE LIFE of the truly helpless, the dependent and the weak!

Absurd. I stopped it because I started to get disgusted at the distortions and extremist propaganda.

First point:
A healthy 30 year old CHOOSES not to pay for health insurance and he goes into a coma.

Do you LEFT-WINGERS actually believe that the society should FORCE others to pay for the unwise and VOLUNTARY choices of others? If I decide to spend my money on booze and gambling for decades and wind up broke as a DIRECT RESULT OF THAT VOLUNTARY CHOICE, is society under an obligation – via force of government – to provide a “decent standard of living?” Is that how you people view “compassion?”

Next, “executions.” Perry said, “If you come into our state and kill one of our children, police officers, etc., you will face the ultimate justice.”

Well, well, well. Let’s see if a LEFTIST can be LOGICAL AND CONSISTENT for a change: The Left-wingers constantly drone on about helping the weak, those who cannot care for themselves, and the helpless, right?

Well, what else is an UNBORN CHILD EXCEPT THAT?

But no, no, no. The Left fights for the right to life of a convicted murderer of police, children or other innocents, but yet advocates to let doctors END THE LIFE of the truly helpless, the dependent and the weak!

Absurd. I stopped it because I started to get disgusted at the distortions and extremist propaganda.

First point:
A healthy 30 year old CHOOSES not to pay for health insurance and he goes into a coma.

Do you LEFT-WINGERS actually believe that the society should FORCE others to pay for the unwise and VOLUNTARY choices of others? If I decide to spend my money on booze and gambling for decades and wind up broke as a DIRECT RESULT OF THAT VOLUNTARY CHOICE, is society under an obligation – via force of government – to provide a “decent standard of living?” Is that how you people view “compassion?”

Next, “executions.” Perry said, “If you come into our state and kill one of our children, police officers, etc., you will face the ultimate justice.”

Well, well, well. Let’s see if a LEFTIST can be LOGICAL AND CONSISTENT for a change: The Left-wingers constantly drone on about helping the weak, those who cannot care for themselves, and the helpless, right?

Well, what else is an UNBORN CHILD EXCEPT THAT?

But no, no, no. The Left fights for the right to life of a convicted murderer of police, children or other innocents, but yet advocates to let doctors END THE LIFE of the truly helpless, the dependent and the weak!

Very interesting that you so very frequently wait until the story drops off the main page before answering. Does it take your mind that long to process a response? What is the point anymore other than to show your pomposity? What if it were a 30 year old man who is out of work and unable to pay for health insurance because of the economy tanked by you right wingers? Does he get the death penalty imposed by you as well? Are you God to decide who lives and who dies? I thought you right wingers were all into "all life is precious". I guess not when it comes to your pocketbooks. Say good night Warren.

Thank you for your comments regarding my assessment about " scared, resentful people " and the rather absurd judgement about liberals.However, one cannot justify one's lack of sympathy for the unfortunate and lack of basic humanity by attacking others. A sense of caring and justice is usually a result of parents who raise their children well to be decent stewards of our society. Those who lack a central core, and are missing that key element of being able to relate to others, either had an unfortunate upbringing, or were born without that charcteristic necessary to be whole. They're generally the ones who grow up torturing and dismembering small animals and wind up slowly turning into serial killers. I'm certain that if Perry, Romney, Santorum, Bachmann and , especially Gingrich ,had not turned to politics they would be out prowling dark alleys at this very moment hunting down their next prey.

I do not spend my life here. Sorry.

>What if it were a 30 year old man who is out of work and unable to pay for health insurance?<

Distortion. Ron Paul (I am not a supporter, by the way) was presented with a clear case of a 30-year old man CHOOSING not to pay health insurance. The questioner was very clear - the hypothetical man VOLUNTARILY CHOSE not to pay.

So, it appears that you are saying that even if an able person simply refuses to pay, the society is obliged to pay then.

I fail to understand how that can possibly be defended.

>What is the point anymore other than to show your pomposity?

To disabuse you of erroneous beliefs and dangerous ideology.

>I thought you right wingers were all into "all life is precious".

Why not respond to the part about how Left-wingers claim to always want to rescue the helpless and weak, and yet are quick to legalize - and demand taxpayer FUNDING - to kill unborn babies.

Sense any incongruencies there?

>one cannot justify one's lack of sympathy for the unfortunate and lack of basic humanity by attacking others.

"Attack others?"

Hey, remember WHO put Ron Paul and Governor Perry on the spot with those absurd questions. They responded. What else can they do?

And the "unfortunate?" People who refuse responsibility are "unfortunate?" Murderers are "unfortunate?"

What about unborn babies who want to live while the doctor scrapes them out of the womb and throws their dismembered parts in the trash? Aren't they "unfortunate?"

Just love you " up by your bootstraps" psychpaths who whine endlessly about unborn fetuses which have no personhood, but the second they are out of the womb, they are no longer your responsibility. Then when they're 30 and have no insurance for whatever reason, and they keel over in the streets, your answer is to let them die because they are not your responsibility. Yes, they are, And they are mine too. We ARE the government and as such society demands that we care for one another--especially the least amongst us . If you don't understand that ,there is something missing inside of you. That type of callousness is not only reprehensible, it is downright pathological.

Listen to that! the sound of 1000 hands clapping! bravo!

Thank you V. Why is it that everytime I respond to "Mishima" I feel dirty and have an overwhelming need to take a bath?

Again, Leftist branding and name-calling instead of discussion. I suppose it is easier to label, dismiss, and declare "victory" in one's own mind.

"Personhood?" Is that a far Leftist term? i cannot keep up with the different verbiage of the Left-wingers.

But you deflect and advert as usual. Of course, we can look to religious organizations and various charities to care for the babies whose mothers do not want them. But aren't YOU PEOPLE supposed to demand funding out of "compassion" and "caring" for the needy and helpless? Why so much effort and screeching to save the lives of convicted murderers, but silence when it comes to killing helpless unborn babies? Don't you see the hypocrisies? You claim "hatred" when people say a person should reap the results of his VOLUNTARY CHOICES, but dismiss the killing of babies in the very next sentence.

How can you NOT see the contradictions and hypocricy?

>when they're 30 and have no insurance for whatever reason, and they keel over in the streets, your answer is to let them die because they are not your responsibility.<

Are you a professional distorter and dissembler?

The hypothetical situation presented to Ron Paul was clear, very clear. Listen again: The question was what if the 30 year old VOLUNTARILY CHOOSES NOT TO PAY for health care.

You deliberately distort in order to promote your own socialist agenda. Of course, every reasonable society, and virtually every Republican will advocate for help for the TRULY needy. To claim otherwise is absurd, juvenile, irrational. It is a deliberate lie.

You promote the "soft" Marxism-Communism, the one that hides the Socialism by embedding it in other terms and causes.

I have learned the deceit and tactics of Socialists, some of whom really do not even know that they are promoting this variation of Marxism. Your kind is what is referred to as "evolutionary" socialism as opposed to "revolutionary" socialism. You are like the Fabian Socialists who wanted to infiltrate the society and promote socialist policies. They were (are) different from the die-hards who envison an end of all government in their fantasy-land, but rather, the implementation of the socialist policies by the CENTRAL GOVERNMENT.

Try living in Europe, buddy. I did for two years on the local economy. I saw how it corrupted the people, and the medical system was not only difficult but corrupted. I saw the scams and the ways people avoided paying the incredible taxes. I saw people who really did not understand freedom. I saw where one must register with the police every time one moves. I saw the lack of morality, but only an emphasis on pleasure of the moment. I saw the mocking of religion and tradition. The lack of incentives, the adulterous affairs running rampant with people who do not value family any longer.

>It's irrelevent whether the man refused to pay for insurance or not

You have not thought things through, and you are being unrealistic.

First of all, he would not be left to die in reality.

But you cannot deal with the fundamental premises and principles. You blithely ignore them and proclaim you "care." Do you realize what would happen in such a society - the we can CHOOSE to pay for health care if we "feel" like it, knowing that if we do not, our bills will get paid anyway? Do you realize how abjectly CRUEL AND VICIOUS that society is? I cannot understand how you can even justify your position in any form whatsoever. Your appeals to compassion are puerile and sophomoric.

You have the insentitives - toward the working people!

Liberal "bashing?"

Not quite. I corner you and others like you when I ask for principles: None of you can respond. You only brand and name-call in desperation.

I present you with facts, and you ignore or deny them.

I present you with history - much of it YOUR OWN - and you say it is not true. I present a challenge to test its validity, and there are not takers.

I know the roots and legacy of today's Liberals. The offshoots have been seen in China, Cuba, the USSR, and Cambodia.

You have been flagged 3 times, Warren. I have told you to not bother responding directly to my comments because all it is about is harassment. I don't care what your opinion is, so I'm not going to debate you, it is a waste of my time. Go away now!

I lived and worked in France , the UK and Germany for 5 years and loved every second of it, BUDDY! While there I had abdominal surgery and was never treated better in my life. Since you arrived there with the negative attitude you have, and your prejudice in favor of all things American, with a mental block and narrow mind toward anything else, it doesn't surprise me in the least that you would denigrate the continent and trash anything that doesn't support your right wing xenophobia. Republicans are the most phobic people on earth, I'm surprised they can even leave their homes without a plastic bubble.

Extremist comments such as that only serve to make you look foolish in the eyes of any part of the political spectrum, except perhaps totalitarians and John Birchers, who are about as anti-American as one can get.

" Personhood " by the way, is a RIGHT wing term coined by you extremist anti-abortion foes. Remember the Personhood Amendments you fanatics tried to pass in several states , especially Mississippi? You know, the ones you had your heads handed to you on? Not even right wing KKK lovin' ole Miss was willing swallow that bitter pill. They're going to keep swallowing their birth control pills, which in the case of Mississippi is a damned smart idea.

Not extremist, unless you think that ascribing to the Founding principles is extremist.

I suppose you do.

Oh, yes. Thank you for the clarification. I see by your response that the Left rejects the humanness and life of an unborn child.

Thank you for the clarification.

Anytime you feel the need for clarification from a moderate Democrat to correct your overly zealous, fanatical Republican extremism----stalk somebody else.

OK. No sense in appealing to the Constitution. It appears you are among the 2%.

Do you know that slightly over 2% of the people want to trash the Constitution and replace it with something else?

How about that? No more 99%ers. Now, it is the 2%ers!

I just signed this and passed it around to many people:

http://nationalprolifealliance.com/rlaca_petition.aspx?pid=tpn1&npla=I1AAAP1...

The Left-wingers do or say whatever they can to dehumanize the unborn child in order to relieve their consciences. That is clear. They want to have it both ways: Indulge their desires without responsibility. If the actually result of their voluntary choices is the beginning of a life, they want to be relieved of the burden, and even demand that it be at government (taxpayers') expense.

"her baby will most likely suffer the pain and indignities of poverty and will not receive the love and attention a new born baby deserves."

That DOOMS a human being. It is saying that rather than take a chance with life, just destroy it, end it. The person plays God and proclaims that an unborn baby should have its life terminated rather than live in poverty.

There are a fair number of examples in history of people who thought like that.

Famous people.

Well written, well said!

Well said!

You forgot -fear-, hate and fear are what they have. And nothing else.

Thank you, Msii.

Yep, that's the entire foundation of their warped philosophy.

I didn't compose that bit of reality for your sake. You, my friend, are hopeless. Don't worry, you are not alone, there are many (too many) non-thinkers in our country and I lay the blame at the foot of some religions (evangelicals) and the Republican party who realized early on (back in the Reagan Era) that religion had done half the (brainwashing) work for them all they had to do was capitalize on religion's finished labor… the rest was easy; convince an already frightened “flock” to vote for them using all kinds of fear tactics (just as the churches do) and that would sweep them into the victory they yearned for.
BTW, if you for one moment think the GOP cares about making abortion illegal you better think again, it’s just another gizmo for them to use to ambush votes.

"Prowling dark alleys..."Thanks for the chuckle... unfortunately, you're probably right. :(

I think Newt was out late the night before the debate. He looked really tired. They better start searching the swamps of South Florida for bodies.

Well, I pointed out the reality of your thinking: You parrot the cliches without thought. You prefer death to the possibility that even someone born into poverty can have a happy and productive life. There are cards stacked against him, you profess, so end the life rather than take a chance.

Some philosophy of "caring" and "compassion."

It is ironic that you say I am a "non-thinker" when, in fact, all you can do to "rebutt" the charge is to name-call and label.

No, it is the Left that promulgates fear and hate. The Left foments racial conflict all of the time, from saying that certain groups are "oppressed" and "oppressors" to creating myths about the "evil rich" that are controlling our lives. The latter drives the unthinking into an almost panic state, and they take to the streets because of the destructive lies and propaganda of the Left.

Yes, they bashed community organizers until they figured out that it works. We now just have to out-organize them and as they like to say, "take back our country".

I agree with you ithink. Good one.

You know I wish there was a Facebook type website for people who wanted to meet with each other in their communities and organize political action. Maybe it could be a neutral site, that just asked people questions and then matched them up in compatible groups by zipcode. The system would have to guarantee privacy and anonymity; but like a dating service could provide a means for like minded people in the same congressional district to hook up. The site could also educate people on the issues in an unbiased manner, similar to the way the League of Women voters educates in an unbiased way.

The Republicans are going to take not only the Executive, but also the Senate.

January 20, 2013 will usher in the coming DECADES of Republican ascendency and its accompanying prosperity!

You betcha!

Careful ... we've got you surrounded!

Pwr 2 the UNITED 99%! DISMEMBER the reptards and their trolls!

Boring.

Yes, I tried reading it a few times and came to the same conclusion.

Yes, it is on both sides. Sadly, that's very true.

>In my opinon liberal, or far left hate is substanially more virulent and dangerous for the simple fact that it is socially accepted

Very true. It is couched in the rhetoric of "politically correct" verbiage. One tactic the Left uses is to proclaim they are for "peace" or they "care" about the poor. Of course, anyone can claim that, but they insist on having a special ownership.

Their dogma and agenda accompany these proclamations, and there is an invidious purpose to it: If you disagree with the AGENDA, then you are branded the exact opposite by default. For example, the Liberals proclaim they want universal healthcare because they "care" about the CHILDREN (bringing up children is the most common tactic of the Left-wingers); therefore, if you do not accede to their demands and acquiese to their agenda, you are branded as a person who is cold-blooded and does not even care about the children or the poor.

Most people make a mistake and fall into the Liberal trap. That is, they then start to defend themself against the absurd and fallacious charges. They try to prove that they are NOT what these LEFTISTS accuse them of being. That is a BIG mistake. One should never try to exonerate oneself of these absurd charges but simply point out how the LEFT-WINGER is the person who is harming children and how they have with their policies.

Do you hate the mall or hate them all? Or could you go either way on that?

Thank you for proving the article's basic truth.

Good definition of the bullies' tactics MSII!

I like the way you think!

I salute the OWS groups; they are shedding enlightenment where there was only ignorance, to the utter dismay of the Corporatists’.
You are 150% right about this, and we can see it by the way the brown shirts ... uh, police ... and mayors are doing everything they can to shut it down. At the end of The Patriot Cornwallis says: "Everything will change; everything HAS changed," this is what most of the OWS denigraters realize and that is why they are grasping at straws trying to shut it down before it grows even stronger.

Pwr 2 the UNITED 99%! Let's take back OUR country! To Liberty Plaza!

Occupy IS the way forward to the new economy .