Pentagon Prepared: US set for Operation Iranian Freedom

Couldn't agree more...

I'm with you, but smartphones and the internet are pretty cool!

Well, yes, I guess, but on the downside you are paying much more to communicate and everything you communicate is subject to be read and retained by folks you don't know, and who don't have your interests at heart. That includes your physical location at all times.
Please note I'm not a raging conspiracy fan; these are just the simple factual elements of this particular node of "progress."

yes they are. I think our technolical advances are more communication based that travel based. If you can master communications you wont need to travel! i.e. teleconference

I guess technology keeps apace with our imaginations!

Absolutely. The dark side of technology.

Sad...but you may be right MAssappeal.

I am totally in agreement with his anti war positions...but I can't even come close to agreeing with his social perspective...

The list is endless...but yours is a wonderful reminder of some of the leading slimers...Thanks.

Could very well be...

And I humbly hope you are right...at least about this not being the plan.

Yes, didn't Obama deploy some troops to Australia just recently to supposedly secure interests in the Pacific? Bet you that won't come out in the campaign either.

Africa as well

Yep. 100 to Uganda.

And that really pisses me off...

OR, maybe he'll get on TV and talk about Clean Coal Technology...like such a thing exists...

If it leads to war, perhaps it wll be primarily a maritime affair and give the ground troops a break.

Because Missles are so good at missing mussels I don't think dem mussels is got too many drugs to worries about, aprts forms thems wessen drugs that we maketh so. AS the imperial drug empire of tha west has got tha much butter weed y'all!

So where is this emprical drugz empire phase 4? AzaIranipakiquadia? That fictional arabian county just left of the palm tree? I maen gum arabic is some pretty freaken mean stuff, I here it makes some far out lollies and sweets dudes and dudets!

Either way gas prices will climb if for no other reason than to keep the rich wealthy.

Not just to keep them wealthy, but to make them even wealthier.

You've hit the nail on the head, old boy!!!

Got to keep those poor oil barons from starving somehow! :)

LOL, that's funny! :) Good one.

Keystone oil is not for US consumption...it's all going to foreign buyers...and we sure as hell don't need that environmental disaster running through the hearland of this country...

Im sure under proper EPA supervison it can be done with minimal harm to the enviroment. Even if it cannot, better to harm the environment than people because of war.

The EPA is a shadow of its former self and would not have the resources necessary to police 1700 miles of pipeline. The existing Keystone pipeline from Canada had multiple spills last year. Not sure I see your either or argument...but that's just me.

My point is that human lives seem to be a greater sacrifice than the enviroment.

Certainly...thanks

Iran can't afford to blockade the Strait of Hormuz, but the Iranian government will try and flex it's little muscles and talk tough for a while in order to scare people into thinking oil prices will become too expensive. They can probably play this little game maybe a couple more months before they seriously hurt their own economy. The current Iranian government are the masters of bluff, they've been practising for years now and trying to lead people down the garden path. They love acting all tough in front of the people and saying they can't be pushed around by foreigners, then shoot a few of their own people when they get fed up with inflated food prices and starvation.

Why can't we aford to let Iran blockade the Strait of Hormuz??? Or is there something we should be doing besides sending in the Storm Troops, aircraft carriers etc to prevent them from doing it???

Because if you havent noticed America is in a financial crisis. And Im sure the last two wars have contributed to that.

Huh???

Agreed...do you have some suggestions as to what we might do??

Wish I could vote you up more than once on that one!

Yes, America doesn't need another war. Too many young people have died and the economy can not sustain another drawn out bloody conflict. That would put and end to any American recovery and put many, many people out of work. The war itself would greatly hinder oil supplies from the region and drive up prices to extraordinary levels. Prices would probably double overnight!

Great idea...doubt anyone is listening though...

Gas prices will increase no matter what.

Right on the money artemis6...

Totally agree!

Dead unfortunately :(

Sounds like you got it.

Do you really think many Iraqis think we liberated anything , but their resources for out corporate friends ?

I would guess in exactly the same way.

They were so happy to see us leave they're still partying.

I do not blame them .

Hell no...they had a right to party!!!

We'll kick off in Australia too. A lot of people here are sick of war. 1,000,000 people marched in Sydney against the Iraq war but the then conservative Prime Minister John "Icarus" Howard signed us up anyway!

YES ! May those that believe they have the power , tremble in their ivory tower , haunted by the footsteps of , those that still can dream and love , their fellow beings enough to greet , the breath of freedom strong and sweet ....

The reasons the spy was there are shady... We are not maintaining the international code we bomb multiple countries for...

A plan for defense, ok... But this is more than a plan. Execution of a spy is a shame, as is the execution of anyone, but why are we in their business in the first place? Why do we have a problem with them, but none of europe or asia while they acquired nuclear weapons... Is it about spies? Is it about nuclear energy? Nuclear weapons...? Where's the beef?

It's ambiguous at best, and hardly a reason for war.

It's not like America and half the bloody world doesn't have their own nukes. With the constant threat of invasion from the west, is anyone really surprised if they have nukes or not? So far I've only heard rumours of a nuke program. The only evidence I've seen is for nuclear power. But really, Australia is selling Uranium to India which has not signed the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty and little fan fair is made about that. India nuking Pakistan is probably more of a worry than anything Iran is currently capable of.

It's because if you're afraid of the big bad (insert bogeyman here), you'll shut the hell up about the damn gas prices. Now smile when you take that pay cut and don't forget to lube up for later.

Signed,
Your Corporate Bosses

Yes!!! Lube is the Answer.... =)

I like that...thanks!

Shit I've ran out of lube, this rape is really going to hurt me this time. I'm scared! :(

Yeah...you need to bend way over this time...enjoy...:)

Is this what America has become, a war machine?

Exactly...it seems like such a foregone conclusion that it is scary just talking about it.

Yes. Perpetual war is a part of fascism. 4) Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

I agree, Ambill94.

It is strange how many Americans blindly buy into each and every excuse for an invasion.

I agree, MFT. I think it's all part of the dumping down. The sheeple. They think, "well, I saw it on the TeeVee, so I guess we must invade Iran." All the while these same people don't have a job or a pot to piss in but they have the satellite dish on their roof so they can pull in FOX news.

FOX loves war, their profits soar, the bosses can afford more whores. That treat them bad, yell CALL ME DAD, then batter them to the floor! No one complains, the viewers have no brainz, they believe the staff are sane. So when Bill says VOTE, for any old goat, they quickly all yell for more!

A very good take on FOX and very poetic as well!

One truth to consider about that though is a good WW is generally good for the economy of the US, sure it sucks for our victims, but historically we have done really well. Not saying its right, just saying its true.

It's how capitalism works!

Most other economic systems also benefit from fighting and winning wars. Spoils of war is good for anyone, no matter what label they carry.

Ok so that does make sense. That makes total sense, and I get it. But you fail to factor in that the money we spend on wars is money that is not already there or that the government has stored away. So by borrowing money in war time they in effect move pieces of the economy through time, so when the economy is good and there is lots of cash flow we pay it back but by spending now we put an immediate fix to a smaller economy. Though if you ask me, what we should be doing is saving while we have a good economy and then spending money we already have in the bad one. Borrowing presents the problem of paying it back, and it presents the problem of an unstable government. Plus once politicians know they can borrow for frivolous things they will. Look at us today, they borrowing for everything nothing is paid for, and no promise of said funds. But no one wants to listen to theories about living within ones means, people are to fond of the game of credit, even it does mean we always get burned.

Yes they do and you don't have to look far back in history to see this played out...good point kennymotown!!!

Well that's malinvestment factor. The only pieces that are moved during war is military industrial complex, bomb manufacturers and any industry that becomes dependent on the Military industrial complex.

Once the war is over all the industries depending on war spending come crashing down. But it's much worse than before the war because the diversion of capital to the military industries during the war starved and killed off industries that didn't rely on war for money.

Not any more, war is just way too expensive! Especially the type fought in far off countries where transporting fuel and expensive equipment is both dangerous and susceptible to cheap IED attacks that destroy equipment and mame and kill soldiers. Jets and bombers constantly increase in price and even friendly fire can cause many millions of dollars in damage while killing servicemen. The outsourced supplies are charged at the highest rate imaginable and often for a substandard service. Many Trillions of dollars would be the minimum cost of such a war, and this is ten years after Bushes Iraq invasion, probably more expensive now.

Iran's borders must be considered too, as insurgents could move back and forth across a number of borders undetected. The terrain in parts of Iran is very hard to secure and smugglers have a great knowledge of tunnels and passes through mountain terrain. Iran is also a large country, strategically difficult to invade and even harder to secure.

Agreed...the Nobel for a hawk makes no sense...as far as our boys and girls are concerned...they are expendable in the pursuit of military and economic ends.

Very good point...this is very troubling...especially since the POTUS seems inclined to be a hawk...