Community | January 22, 2012 | 26 comments

Most Criminals and Felons are Democrats

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And since Democrats can be sensitive on this point, I will add immediately that the reverse is not true. Most Democrats are not felons.

That most felons are Democrats is not a secret — but it does seem to be a secret from the Seattle Times, which yesterday put out this extensively researched article, but never mentions that fact. (Party leaders know that most felons are Democrats, as one can see by noting that the Democrats generally support extending voting rights to felons and that the Republicans generally oppose that extension.)

How do we know that most felons are Democrats? Two ways, broadly speaking. First, felons belong to groups that are more likely to be Democrats. Those who are bothered by this line of argument should know that it is the same line of argument often used by Paul Berendt, the state Democratic chairman. More than once, I have heard him argue that since felons are more likely to be men (true) and men are more likely to vote for Republicans than women (also true), then more felons must have voted for Republican Dino Rossi than for Democrat Christine Gregoire. His analysis is not wrong; if all we knew about felons is that they were mostly men, I would agree that it would be likely that more of them voted for Rossi than for Gregoire.

But it is incomplete, because we know many other things about felons. Let me add in more of what we know and you will see that these other factors outweigh Berendt's single factor. First, felons are more likely to be single. Singles are more likely to be Democrats than married people. Second, felons are poorer than the average person. Poorer people are more likely to be Democrats. Third, felons are more likely to be black or Hispanic. Blacks and Hispanics are more likely to be Democrats, much more likely in the case of blacks. Fourth, felons are more likely to come from urban areas. Those from urban areas are more likely to be Democrats. You can now see why anyone familiar with American voting patterns would expect most felons to be Democrats. (Does Berendt know this? I am not sure and would not want to guess without more knowledge of the man.)

Second, although secret ballots prevent us from looking at felons' votes, we do have the next best thing, their party registrations in the state of Florida, something I discussed at length in this post. Briefly, a newspaper that endorsed Al Gore in 2000, the Palm Beach Post, found about 5,600 felons who had voted illegally in the 2000 election and found that 68 percent of them were registered Democrats. (The Miami Herald, which also endorsed Gore, did a similar investigation and came up with similar results.) That 68 percent is about what most students of American voting patterns would expect, given what else we know about felons.

Can we extend this directly to Washington state? Not quite, as I explained in my January post, because the two states have such different rules for restoring voting rights to felons. And it is also true that Washington does not have as large a population of pro-Democratic minorities as Florida does. So, if we had registration data by party in Washington state, I would expect we would find that our felons are not 68 percent Democrats, but somewhere between 50 and 60 percent Democrats. That would still be enough to have tipped the election to Gregoire easily.


And we should not forget another point that I have mentioned before &mdash although the Seattle Times does not mention it. When these searches for felons on the voting lists are made, they certainly miss many felons. Relying, as they do, on name matches, they will miss any felon who changes his name. And in Washington (and probably Florida), they will miss those who committed their crimes in another state. (Washington forbids them from voting if they could not vote in the state where they committed their crimes.) More than 5,600 felons voted illegally in Florida in 2000; more than 1,000 felons voted illegally in Washington in 2004. Almost certainly many more, in both elections. http://soundpolitics.com/archives/004473.html
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26 comments // Most Criminals and Felons are Democrats

  • 2hellnwait
  • congoboy
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  • TanzaniteDiamonds
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      congoboy  
    • TanzaniteDiamonds:

      dude, friends, family, and having fun. nothing else but maybe the whether really matters much. too many people take the enews channel, people magazine, and judge judy way too serious. vote democrat, vote republican but the broad picture never changes. besides the popular vote is meaningless and so is all the rhetoric, including mine.

    • 4 months ago
  • freecrack
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      freecrack  
    • congoboy:

      that is kind of what happens when you are full of shit.you dont get avail yourself of objectivity.
      you keep telling yourself you are spreading truth,while you have just as many (on average) threads bashing the left as maasanova does threads bashing jews.
      that is his agenda, and this is yours.
      niether are based in truth fellah and you both know it

    • 4 months ago
  • congoboy
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      congoboy  
    • freecrack:

      no argument there. after listening to 11 years of vicious, unrelenting and often unjustified bush bashing, i have a lot of catching up to do. my truth is at least as valid

    • 4 months ago
  • freecrack
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      freecrack  
    • congoboy:

      yup cuz that makes sense.right about the train of thought to validate killing jews cuz they killed christ, as obama has anything to do with anyone opinion on bush.but by all means, keep dragging the bar lower and lower and wonder why civility is so lacking as you do it

    • 4 months ago
  • congoboy
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      congoboy  
    • freecrack:

      pointing out valid flaws, inconsistencies, constitutional abandonment and the hypocrisy of the obama admin or the left is hardly lowering the bar. and talk about civility? the right is definately more civil than the left. who keeps breaking windows, over turning and burning cars, attacking the police, shitting in public parks, and breaking laws? certainly not the right my friend.

    • 4 months ago
  • freecrack
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      freecrack  
    • congoboy:

      doing so is certainly lowering the bar when your basis in doing so is in how other leaders were treated and not based in what is in our best interest as a people.
      condem obama all day and night if you like based on his policies not serving the interest of the american people.
      but your basis, as you literaly stated for doing this, is reciprocity.
      not progress, but petty vengance
      hence lowering the bar.
      just as it would be another step lower if a good republican leader took the white house and was villified as revenge for how obama was treated.

    • 4 months ago
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    • freecrack:

      good point but actually i do it both ways. one for entertainment purposes the other for impact. either way though many on the left are still so blind to obamas shinanigans that they would follow him into a bleeding volcano without thought or reason. im just here to keep things "fair and balanced" the food aint bad either

    • 4 months ago
  • VFORVENDETTA
  • congoboy
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      congoboy  

    • the same holds true for terrorists, although not all muslims are terrorists, most terrorists are muslim. is there a connection here?

    • 4 months ago
  • artemis6
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    • congoboy:

      I think most terrorists are ZEALOTS . Any ideology will do . Those who are willing to kill for an individual they have never seen , to prove that person exists (like being killed would convince you ) ... like those that justified killing the Native Americans , or landholding widows during the inquisition , are zealots . terrorism is , above all a behavior . I am not sure about criminals and felons . Most are gang members and/or skin heads , so political affiliation might be a bit out of their reality . Those poor devils need hope and they will cling to what ever gives them that . A gang , a religion , a system that protects them in some way . A system that supports or empowers them in some way . Like helping them get educated ... so dems USED to be into that sort of thing , but lately , inmates have been abandoned by the powers at their main use is to make money for the prison complex . So , education is out - bad for the bottom line .

    • 4 months ago
  • freecrack
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      freecrack  
    • congoboy:

      the greater connection is that youth is exploitable to the point of death.old crazy fuckers will grab a gun and shoot others while protecting themselves, but you gotta get idealistic youth to unquestioningly do your bidding.weather its blowing up a building in oklahoma,shooting up a school,joining a cult,becoming a jihadist, all a young mans game.that thread exceeds what you have observed.
      so much so our military is predicated on it, as waiting for volunteers isnt enough,recruiters plague high schools across the country every spring looking for the futureless to manipulate.kind of like how terrorists do to muslims.

    • 4 months ago
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