Iceland Declares Independence from International Banks

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On April 9, the fiercely independent people of island-nation defeated a referendum that would have bailed out the UK and the Netherlands who had covered the deposits of British and Dutch investors who had lost funds in Icesave bank in 2008.
At the time of the bank’s failure, Iceland refused to cover the losses. But the UK and Netherlands nonetheless have demanded that Iceland repay them for the “loan” as a condition for admission into the European Union.
In response, the Icelandic people have told Europe to go pound sand. The final vote was 103,207 to 69,462, or 58.9 percent to 39.7 percent. “Taxpayers should not be responsible for paying the debts of a private institution,” said Sigriur Andersen, a spokeswoman for the Advice group that opposed the bailout.
A similar referendum in 2009 on the issue, although with harsher terms, found 93.2 percent of the Icelandic electorate rejecting a proposal to guarantee the deposits of foreign investors who had funds in the Icelandic bank. The referendum was invoked when President Olafur Ragnur Grimmson vetoed legislation the Althingi, Iceland’s parliament, had passed to pay back the British and Dutch.
Under the terms of the agreement, Iceland would have had to pay £2.35 billion to the UK, and €1.32 billion to the Netherlands by 2046 at a 3 percent interest rate. Its rejection for the second time by Iceland is a testament to its people, who feel they should bear no responsibility for the losses of foreigners endured in the financial crisis.
That opposition to bailouts led to Iceland’s decision to allow the bank to fail in 2008. Not that the taxpayers there could have afforded to. As noted by Bloomberg News, at the time the crisis hit in 2008, “the banks had debts equal to 10 times Iceland’s $12 billion GDP.”
“These were private banks and we didn’t pump money into them in order to keep them going; the state did not shoulder the responsibility of the failed private banks,” Iceland President Olafur Grimsson told Bloomberg Television.
The voters’ rejection came despite threats to isolate Iceland from funding in international financial institutions. Iceland’s national debt has already been downgraded by credit rating agencies, and now those same agencies have promised to do so once again as punishment for defying the will of international bankers.
This is just the latest in the long drama since 2008 of global institutions refusing to take losses in the financial crisis. Threats of a global economic depression and claims of being “too big to fail” have equated to a loaded gun to the heads of representative governments in the U.S. and Europe. Iceland is of particular interest because it did not bail out its banks like Ireland did, or foreign ones like the U.S. did.
If that fervor catches on amongst taxpayers worldwide, as it has in Iceland and with the tea party movement in America, the banks would have something to fear; that is, the inability to draw from limitless amounts of funding from gullible government officials and central banks. It appears that the root cause is government guarantees, whether explicit or implicit, on risk-taking by the banks.
Ultimately, such guarantees are not necessary to maintain full employment or even prop up an economy with growth, they are simply designed to allow these international institutions to overleverage and increase their profit margins in good times — and to avoid catastrophic losses in bad times.
The lesson here is instructive across the pond, but it is a chilling one. If the U.S. — or any sovereign for that matter — attempts to restructure their debts, or to force private investors to take a haircut on their own foolish gambles, these international institutions have promised the equivalent of economic war in response. However, the alternative is for representative governments to sacrifice their independence to a cadre of faceless bankers who share no allegiance to any nation.
It is the conflict that has already defined the beginning of the 21st Century. The question is whether free peoples will choose to remain free, as Iceland has, or to submit.
Read more at NetRightDaily.com: http://netrightdaily.com/2011/04/iceland-declares-independence-from-internationa...
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congoboy
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too bad the u.s. doesnt have these kind of balls
- 4 months ago
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congoboy
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lesterhalfjr
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awesome
- 4 months ago
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lesterhalfjr
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GavinTheMother
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Bring the spirit of Iceland to America!!!
- 4 months ago
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GavinTheMother
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GavinTheMother
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Credit rating agencies are a joke. Electing not to pay private debts of failed private banks makes Iceland far more likely to be able to pay off the country's debts. They are just trying to punish Iceland for making good decisions for the country rather than what is good international bankers.
- 4 months ago
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GavinTheMother
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warman1138
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I like Iceland! Iceland rocks!
- 4 months ago
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warman1138
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Mitekillem1
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ICELAND'S Government actually asked the people what they wanted to do...and listened?
Why the hell can't we do that??? - 4 months ago
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Mitekillem1
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ahiguy
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Mitekillem1:
- ego, power and greed!
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ahiguy
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congoboy
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Mitekillem1:
two answers. democans and republicrats
- 4 months ago
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congoboy
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Vierotchka
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What is negative about this is the fact that countless ordinary people, mostly from the UK, had placed their pensions and savings in those banks - now they have nothing at all, many of the older ones are now homeless as a consequence.
- 4 months ago
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Vierotchka
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Vierotchka
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If it weren't so cold there, if it didn't sit atop countless active volcanoes, and if Icelandic wasn't one of the hardest languages to learn and master, I'd gladly move there. :)
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Vierotchka
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remanns
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Vierotchka:
There are those small details - - - but LOTS of music and musicians !
- 4 months ago
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remanns
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congoboy
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Vierotchka:
will you marry me?
- 4 months ago
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congoboy
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ThirdSection
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Back when Iceland rejected the austerity measures demanded by the World Bank, they were threatened with becoming the "Cuba of the North". The Icelandic retort was that it would be better than becoming the "Haiti of the North," which would be the result of accepting the austerity measures. And now, for being courageous, Iceland has become neither.
I think there's a lesson to be learned here.
- 4 months ago
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ThirdSection
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2hellnwait
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Gasp. . . can it possibly be? . . an actual awakening going on here by a few of the far left of the leftist (aka current)? . . I find that almost impossible to believe!
If we'd not had TARP, the "Stimulus" and Q1 & 2, imo we'd be well on our way out of this economic slavery and its depression that has been foisted onto the hard working and honest people of this country. - 4 months ago
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2hellnwait
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Mark701
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You have to admire Iceland. Who knows, maybe they'll start a world-wide movement. If that happens, the banks that have been running the world will end up in the dust-bin of history where they belong.
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Mark701
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ThirdSection
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Mark701:
That world-wide movement is, shall we say, occupying, at the moment...
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ThirdSection
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Kilnsapper
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Yes. The banks took a chance and they lost........it happens to regular people everyday, why should they be special?
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Kilnsapper
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Novek
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As much as I respect them for doing so I can't help but fear for their countries safety given our track record for 'helping' these countries regain their dependence by going in and bombing the tar out of them. then making sure to stick a central bank in with a requirement for them to repair reparations. *Let us hope we can start the rest of the world on the right track as Iceland has done and not let us repeat the same old mistakes.
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Novek
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warman1138
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Good for Iceland, pound sand indeed, we should do the same.
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warman1138
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NothingIsAbsoluteTruth
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Great post! it is nice to see a nation that actually cares..
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NothingIsAbsoluteTruth
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circlesquared
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NothingIsAbsoluteTruth:
they took it back from the few that didn't
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circlesquared
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[ Ultimately, such guarantees are not necessary to maintain full employment or even prop up an economy with growth, they are simply designed to allow these international institutions to overleverage and increase their profit margins in good times — and to avoid catastrophic losses in bad times.]Yepper. F-em. G U I L L O T I N E
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remanns
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remanns
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Good for ICELAND. +^d
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remanns
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bailey78
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Well I wish OUR Government would let US Vote wheather or not to bailout Big Corp. I know I would VOTE Not To!
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bailey78
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Incredulous
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bailey78:
I say we feed them all some Freedent gum!
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Incredulous
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Kelly_Balthrop
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bailey78:
here here, a big NO! from me too.
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Kelly_Balthrop
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congoboy
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bailey78:
since when did a vote by the majority in this country count for anything?
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congoboy
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COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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If everyone here would copy this and email it to the Oval Office, like I have, while Obama might not favor U.S. policy from it's lesson, he'll know we're watching with a magnifying glass.
[Mr. Obama,
Where are your balls, sir?
Where is your commitment to the American People, sir?
When are you going to reclaim from all banks the vast sums of American public money which they have stolen and defrauded us of, with interest, sir?
If little Iceland has the "scruples" and "balls" to do the right thing, how is it that the -leader- of the "free world" can and does not?] - 4 months ago
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COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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bailey78
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COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM:
He has been bought long before he got to be POTUS.
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bailey78
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artemis6
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bailey78:
Yeah , the people do not get a significant chance to vote for an actual candidate that is NOT owned by special interests , like banks and wall street ....
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artemis6
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bailey78
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artemis6:
we really need to change that before we can move foward in repairing our country.
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bailey78
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MSII
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bailey78:
Money has to be taken out of elections. There needs to be a new system, a constitutional amendment many are saying, nothing short will break us free of the money owning politics. And of course it goes without saying corporations are -NOT- people, there needs to be absolute binding law stating that fact!
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MSII
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bailey78
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MSII:
I'm thinking after the War breaks out here on United States Soil and they see just how many people are really pissed off they are going to shit
I really don't see any change comeing to us short of a real war - 4 months ago
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bailey78
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artemis6
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bailey78:
Step ONE . Ending corporations , step TWO .
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artemis6
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bailey78
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artemis6:
Step Two remove the corrupt from office.
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bailey78
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congoboy
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bailey78:
maybe 4 more years?
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congoboy
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congoboy
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artemis6:
thats a reasonable answer to putting 50% more of the country on unemployment. you need to think first my friend
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congoboy
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congoboy
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bailey78:
starting with the oval office?
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congoboy
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bailey78
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congoboy:
Man did you bitch about bush as much as you do obama?
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bailey78
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congoboy
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bailey78:
nope, but i did bitch about him. i didnt support afghanistan, tarp, bailouts, chaney was creepy carl rove even creepier.
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congoboy
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artemis6
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bailey78:
Yep .
- 4 months ago
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artemis6