Hecklers shout ‘liar’ as Wisconsin’s Walker touts job creation

If you're a billionaire, I understand your comment. If you are not a millionaire then you're just an ignorant with no brains.

I think we have to wait in line. ;)

Thanks Vieortchka... =)

Hoorah!!! Thousands of emails seized, lets see how many self incriminators have emails pass through thier secret system.

Are you aware of Nation magazine? It is the magazine of the anti-capitalist far Left. It advocates world socialist revolution and it is not only rabidly anti-capitalist, it is rabidly anti-AMERICAN.

I can provide numerous exerpts of it since the end of WWI, when it praised the Soviet Union and advocated for its system in America, to when it had articles lamenting the end of communism in the Soviet Union in 1991. Che Guevara is one of the heroes it extols in issue after issue, and it has compared America to North Korea, and America came out the worse for it. It recently advocated its readers to review Marxism because it lends good insights into our "problems."

Fortunately, polls taken show that despite the radical union activism and huge funding by its thugs and lackeys, the Governor will win the election. The people know the truth about unions, it seems....

Agreed!

Great post!

Walker's money is from a guy that blows kisses to him, ROFLMAO!!!

Thanks! :)

LMAO! You got that correct, llip!

Zielinski is a Democrat Party spokesman, and the unions are putting incredible funds - at taxpayer expense - into BUYING politicians, DEMOCRAT politicians.

And the Left-wingers complain that others used biased sources. Funny....

Nobody asked you. You don't know what you are talking about in regards to WI. End of story. Bye bye.

Well, I know that Walker is ahead in the polls. And that he is for freedom. Right to work is freedom. Follow Indiana and have freedom.

Sorry.

And the ethics charges against him are just waiting to bite him in the ass. Sorry. For someone who lives "abroad" you sure worry a lot about what goes on in this little berg. Very, very interesting. You must not have much of a life. If I lived abroad I'd have a lot better things to do than worry about what goes on in one state in the US. And you seem to be on your computer all hours of the day and night. You would think that you would actually stumble across some "real" information to enlighten yourself. But, I guess not.

Living abroad made me realize - years ago, of course - how great America is.

With you comment, it is obvious that you spent little time abroad; when one lives for a considerable period of time, the "newness" and "excitement" wears off like in any other place.

Walker represents something now; it is bigger than Wisconsin, and that is the reason he is getting national attention. He is part of the fight for liberty and responsibility. He is part of the fight against the control of government by union socialists. The leftists are assaulting and trying to get headway into government unions, and that brave governor is standing up to them.

Real Americans all over the country - and expats abroad - are cheering, hoping and praying for his victory and what it means. We are at a crossroads where the Left wants to take us down a road of government control and management of our lives and our economy. Governor Walker is on the vanguard of fighting for freedom, liberty, and fiscal responsibility.

He is a very important figure in the fight against the GOVERNMENT union mentality of "workers of the world, unite!"

Stow it. You're about to make me throw up my breakfast and last night's dinner. If you think America is so great, why did you leave?

I did not leave, of course. If one moves permanently, that is "leaving."

Ever heard of having an "adventurous spirit?" Ever heard of curiosity? Ever heard of wanting to see different things? Ever heard of wanting to learn? And have you ever heard of being "worldly?"

お前は何もわからないみたい。

the only thing you got right in all of what you just wrote is that there is, indeed, a fight for liberty going on...and that is what has made America great, the fact that we can and will fight for what we believe in. Real Americans? Seriously, exactly what is your litmus test for determining that?

Have you? The jury's still out. We can only take your word for it and you can make up anything you like from in front of a computer screen.

Yes, it may be too short of a summary, but it is fight of those who want to centralize power in the federal government and those who want to decentralize it. Between those who want to encourage self-reliance and those who would foster dependency. Between those who want America to remain an "exceptional" nation and those who would relagate it to just one more insignificant member of the United Nations, needing international approval for any actions. Between those who want a nation of moral people, and those who would throw morality and decency to the wind, insising only on gratification and indulgence.

Have I "what?" Lived abroad? I told you, and you can choose to rely on the old Leftist standby and claim I am lying. It does not matter.

You don't matter, Warren.

Do you even know how partisan the pollster who took this rather suspect poll is? Of course not. The non-partisan pollsters show a much different picture of the upcoming recall election, but if you would do a little more research you would've known that. This is a weak attempt by the Walkerites to dampen enthusiasm for the recall which is not working in the state. The only thing this crook can rely on is the Koch-backed flood of misinformation and lies to fool an equally ill-informed as you electorate. Move here and you will see the problems his agenda have already wrought.

That is a typical response from the Left: Deny facts. I checked the information. But if you have other information, why didn't you post it?

I eagerly await your reply with the links. Thank you.

Move there? I would like to move there so my wife and I could vote for Walker in the coming election. And petition and encourage as many people as possible to vote for liberty.

I wouldn't dream of wasting my time because you will more to spout that you never seem to provide the backup for either. Only difference is your "living abroad" as you claimed in a previous response to me, so you wouldn't know the real facts of what is going on here or care to hear them.

Save that one for your stand up act, you're killing me. Is your "wife" the straight person or are you the patsy? Taking rights away and lowering wages for hard working people is your idea of liberty? You're pathetic if that's your 1% view of the world.

I lived in America, too. Please do not be close minded. Living abroad enables one to understand one's own country better, of course.

Not taking away rights but supporting REAL liberty.

I used to teach college, and I passed out "Right to Work" pamphlets to seniors and encouraged them to NOT join unions. I told them to try to resist and ignore the intimidation and bullying of union thugs and lackeys. I knew that as new employees, they would be subjected to those union tactics in order to force them to join.

I crossed a picket line and have convinced people at several workplaces to quit the union. At one place, the union FORCED payments from workers, and both my wife and I refused to join the union, even though they CONFISCATED part of our salaries.

I see you were into doing great disservice to your students. I'll bet you didn't mention while you were doing that that Right to Work states, as proven by statistics, drive down the wages of workers and that Unions help give people a more living wage and helps the non-union sector follow suit with higher wages to compete? Thought so. Have a nice right wing, hate worker day.

Living abroad has obviously not taught you much about personal liberties which makes it difficult to believe that you truly do. Your rabid right wing ideology that you embrace which makes women no more than second class citizens is antithetical to most European nations and culturally, they are for complete freedom of thought, whille you support a political ideology that likes to suppress dissent and attacks anyone that dares puts forth freedom to pursue happiness if the lifestyle differs from your own world view. Enlighten yourself and embrace diversity and you may become a happier person instead of trying to convince others on a constant basis to see the world through your eyes.

To the contrary, it has enabled me to see that most of the world does not embrace freedom as it has been enshrined in our Constiution and Founding documents.

"Rabid?" It then appears that you do not believe in the precepts of limited government, decenteralized power, people controlling their own fates, protection of private property and Rule of Law (as opposed to Rule by Man and "social justice).

Women in our republic have had more rights and prosperity than others over the centuries. The Left-wingers like you can only point to how central powers dole out welfare and claim that is some kind of "freedom" when, in fact, it is the precise opposite.

You cling to the distilled and reworded Marxist idea that man will be "free" when he supposedly has ECONOMIC freedom. That is what Marx claimed is needed to realize man's "true liberty."

No, YOU are the one who wants to put down TRUE liberty and diversity. YOU and your kind want to centralize and make custom, education, laws, and regulations uniform, thus DESTROYING true diversity. If we return power to the states, it terrifies Left-wingers because each state will be able to accommodate and meet the needs of different peoples with different beliefs. One state may want to keep unions in power, while another will have RTW laws: Americans are then FREE to choose where they want to live. But you and your kind want to SUPPRESS such things.

You and your kind want the "Fairness in Broadcasting" act renewed, shutting off dissent and ideas contrary to your ideology. You and your kind have actually implement "speech codes" in universities and colleges all across America.

No, I encouraged them to fight for FREEDOM, and against union thugs, lackeys and bullies.

Workers in the right to work states have better lives, if one measures that by their lifestyles, amount of work, what they can afford, their housing, and on and on. I have data and can document that, but I will not provide it to you. That is because, based on your absolute DENIAL of any facts that I presented before, there simply is no point. You are a rabid ideologue, and one simply wastes one's time trying to provide documentation to such people. But I want you to know that I DO have the data, and it is incontrovertable.

This is the equivalent of Newt Gingrich predicting he will be the nominee before the Iowa caucuses. Total prematurely delusional expectations trying to will the final results if that's what you're into. But that's not the facts on the ground, for those truly in the know, which ain't you.

Yes, it is early. As more information comes, it is certain that the people will see the results of union payoffs and how the unions force people to give up parts of their salaries to pay for the financing of leftist candidates for political office to promote "worker solidarity."

Do you know that unions contribute more to political campaigns than any other entity? In other words, they buy politicians. But they couldn't buy Walker, and they are livid!

"Do you know that unions contribute more to political campaigns than any other entity?" Do you ever get embarassed by saying things that are so stupid two minutes of actual research proves you wrong? Walker raised 12.1 million dollars in the last year, 61% from out of state donors while the recall organizers raised $480,000. Why don't you get your facts straight before making such a fool of yourself, time and time again?

My data are accurate. Of course, you can find exceptions and you will present them as commonplace and as a general rule in order to distort truth and deny facts.

Do you know that the BIGGEST campaign contributors are unions, by far? I mean when I looked, I was really shocked at how disproportionately they contribute.

Take a look-see:

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php

You will see that of the top 18 donors, not a SINGLE ONE donates primarily to Republicans! 4 are mixed, leaving 14 that give to Democrats. So, of the top 18 that give more to one party or the other, 100% give to Dems! ONE HUNDRED PERCENT!

Of those 14, ELEVEN (11) are UNIONS!

Or we could round it off to the top 20: 15 to Democrats and 12 are UNION. ONE to Republican.

I provided the FACTS, and it is a "non-partisan" source.

How can you people DENY these FACTS? I documented and even posted the link to the non-partisan source, yet you claim that they are not true?

It is absolutely incredible how much of an IDEOLOGUE you are. Over the top. The PROOF of someone being an ideologue is that they simply deny FACTS, even when the TRUTH is shown clearly.

In-credible!

I was referring to unions in general, of course. In the aggregate, they contribute more than anyone else, buying democrat politicians. Facts.

Sorry.

Good Lord, do you ever just give it up? Why do you continue to bang your head up against a wall trying to convince someone you know something, when that person has told you time and time again that he thinks you pull your facts out of a part of youyr anatomy? I being of sound mind know when to quit. You can spin your illigitimate facts every which way, but it doesn't make them reality. But as Einstein said about someone doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome...look it up if you don't know the reference.

It is always a laudable goal to disabuse people of their myths and misconceptions.

My facts are accurate, of course, and maybe there are a few people who scan these posts. I know that I can never change the die-hard leftists, but others do read the posts. I also learn much about how the Left views the world.

So, don't assume you know my motives. It is almost certain that you are wrong.

Oh, you're such a noble sort. How on Earth did I miss that. LMFAO! You don't convert people to your way of thinking by consistently insulting their intelligence and belief systems. That's obviously something you've missed in your collection of VAST wisdom. You really make me laugh. You are good for entertainment value at times, Warren. Gotta go to work now. You're already punched in so I'll let you harass someone else now with your interminable droning on and patting yourself on the back. You're a real piece of work. Ha ha ha ha!

What makes you think I am trying to convert any Left-wingers on these threads?

You are projecting. Maybe that is what YOU do, but it does not mean that everyone does it. You are taking too much for granted.

When I do get people to the polls, they are not the die-hard union radicals and thugs, or the Leftists, of course. Their ways are set; they have been thoroughly trained and indoctrinated. Rather, it is the unmotivated, the undecided, the fence-sitters. The people who worry about their kids' future; the people who want to have pride in their country; the people who have worked hard and resent the welfare state; the people who have seen their kids and family bombarded with revisionist history; the people who get inspired by what the educators are finally doing in Tennessee and Texas; the people who cheer when states threaten Supreme Court action against ObamaCare.

Believe me, there are millions and millions of people who will go to the polls and vote Republican with only a bit of urging.

For someone who is as worldly as you claim to be, you sure don't understand the use of facetiousness, do you. The only way you could convert any liberal would be the same way Mitt Romney converted his father-in-law to Mormonism, post mortem. Those who are forced to pay attention to you from time to time all know why you come here, and it's not to inform or debate, it is to bait. One requires real intellect and intelligence, the latter requires only childish and immature mean-spritedness which you have a boat load of on both scores. You know I think you are nothing more than a programmed right wing ideologue, who really doesn't say anything that resembles independent thought. You only spew ad nauseum the same talking points you could hear on any of the laughable excuses for right wing "news" shows. It's pointless to tell you over and over again that your "facts" are manufactured because that is not what narrow-minded conservatives want to hear, so they simply ignore it and keep on thinking the way they have been programmed to think. We all know you factual or pretend 1%ers, and I don't really care which your reality is, because your opinion never changes and might as well be placed on a continual tape loop from here to eternity. You are either paid to spew or have directly benefitted from your mean-spirited thinking, so you will never see the world from any other perspective or care how your thinking negatively impacts the vast majority of this country's population. You're selfish and self-centered and that's not me calling you names, it's what every one of your posts exudes and drips with. If you respond to future posts of mine, this will be my canned response, to go along with your canned opinions. There's no sense in trying to come up with different ways to tell you that you're full of bile and totally clueless to the realities of 99% of this country because you live in your own little bubble.

Why do you persist in assuming I want to convert any Left-winger?

They are like religious fanatics. Could one convert an evangelical and fanatic born-again to something totally alien to his belief system? Leftists believe in a fantasy world; David Horowitz, an ex-communist Leftist, explains the mindset quite well: In essence, the "dream" that Leftists have is too good to give up. They compare America to an illusion, a fantasy, and actually believe that this utopian vision is reality. A reality that is denied its fulfillment because of the reactionary forces of tradition, free market capitalism and organized religion.

No, I am not here to "convert" anyone....

OK, let's start a conversation: Tell me why you trust government more than other citizens? Next, please tell me why you think life would be better if our entire society and economy are managed by the federal government.

OK. Let's exchange some posts.

First, tell me why you love government and put it above trusting your fellow citizens?

Next, why do you think that government's micromanaging every aspect of our lives and our economy will promote liberty?

Many Folks like you and me feel the same... =)

Either that, or thrown out of Wisconsin and into a lake.

Man I sure hope so!!! Please be in touch and Happy New Year??? =(

gump,
Good to see you ,too. I'm so sorry to hear about the police burning your house. Why? That's crazy! Take care and keep us posted.

I would say Life, they must have never thought things could get this Bad before the people drug out their PitchForks....

Wanna Bet he will do as all others do and become a Lobbyist.... =(

Either that or Hannity's fluffer...

Ha!!! Too Funny!!! Have a great day ThirdSection... =)

Agreed!

YUK!

Wow Leen, you are on Fire!!! Tooo Cooool..... =)

I had to get this out there! :)) WI still fighting!

I Thank you Folks for doing so... =)

Cool! :)

I am sure I am Not alone Leen... Keep up the Good Fight... ;)

The state of WI will, KB!

The rest of the country and working class is Hoping so and Stands behind the wonderful people of Wisconsin.... =)

Thank you, KB! Have a good evening! :)

You too was just heading out... Good Night Leen and Best Wishes... =)

The good people of Wisconsin are awsome. :-)

Thanks, Plue :) Nice to see you again. It's been awile.

Good for the Students, the actions of Scott Walker will also be a part of their near future, Stand Up and Be Counted!!!!!

Right on!

That's Awesome Leen, you should post us an article.... =)

I posted some footage right here instead....it all fits! :)

Good Job Leen, You Rock!!!! =)

Thanks, KB! :)

Thank Youu Leen, very Cool to share with me and others.... ;)