Community | January 27, 2012 | 167 comments

Ron Paul: ‘The welfare system helps the wealthy’

KB723
By David Edwards
Friday, January 27, 2012 10:41 EST

Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul wants to abolish all income taxes — but he says he’ll have to completely destroy the “welfare system” to do it.

During CNN’s Republican debate in Florida on Thursday, moderator Wolf Blitzer asked Paul if he agreed with the tax policies that former President Ronald Reagan put in place.

“He taxed too much,” Paul replied. “My goal is to get rid of the 16th Amendment and the only way you can do that is not run a welfare system and a warfare system.”

“I do want to address the subject about taxing the rich. That is not a solution. But I understand and really empathize with the people who talk about the 99 and the 1 because there is a characteristic about what happens when you destroy a currency. There is a transfer of wealth from the middle class to the wealthy, and this has been going on for 40 years.”

The Texas congressman added: “So the middle class is shrinking and their losing their jobs and their losing their houses, but Wall Street isn’t getting poorer. And they are the ones who are getting the bailout. So we have to address the bailout and the system that favors a certain group over another group. If you don’t have sound money and you have a welfare state, no matter whether the welfare state is designed to help the poor, you know, the welfare system helps the wealthy.”

Speaking to conservative Wisconsin radio host Jan Mickelson last August about pro-union protests in that state, Paul explained that “[e]ntitlements are not rights.”

“And this is where I’m very encouraged, because I think a lot of young people are recognizing this and they can’t depend on the government,” he said. “And some of the people on the left are actually realizing this, some get very angry, but a lot of them now are looking at our views more closely, especially when we can prove that the welfare system bail out the rich and stick it to the poor. And you look at the housing, I use that example, they bailed out the rich and the bankers and Wall Street, and at the same time the people lost their jobs and lost their homes.”

“So the welfare system doesn’t work and in truth, pure democracy is very dangerous.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/01/27/ron-paul-the-welfare-system-helps-the-weal...

Watch this video from CNN, broadcast Jan. 26, 2012.

“So the welfare system doesn’t work and in truth, pure democracy is very dangerous.”
"Hmmm, What an Odd thing to say!!!"
  1. groups:
    Community,   News and Politics,   Politics,   Culture,   38 more
  2. tags:
    Barack Obama Republican GOP Democrats 17 more
  3.     
    |

167 comments // Ron Paul: ‘The welfare system helps the wealthy’

  • circlesquared
    • +3
      circlesquared  
    • my grandfather was head of CARE for some time...he left when CARE decided to head in the direction of just handing out goods rather than helping people get to a sustainable solution. Now they hand out goods made by their friends rather than help people find a way to live. CARE is in charge of 400,000+ people in Africa and that's an underestimate...control even from those you may think are trying to help.

    • 4 months ago
  • mrtraffic
    • +3
      mrtraffic  
    • Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNN PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

    • 4 months ago
  • jackhole
  • mrtraffic
  • jackhole
  • Rush_Rules
  • jackhole
    • +2
      jackhole  
    • Rush_Rules:

      Hey I support Paul's stand against the corporate welfare system, you do know he's not the only one against it, and I like his anti war glib but it's everything else that comes out of his mouth that I have a problem with plus there's the racist pig thing that I cannot overlook. So yeah he's irrelevant.

    • 4 months ago
  • Rush_Rules
  • BKsaysAction
    • 0
      BKsaysAction  
    • Rush_Rules:

      He is extremely relevant. I'm afraid of Ron Paul and his idea of dismantling most of the federal government and leaving stuff up to the states. You want to watch the US retrogress and see some of our 50 start to lower living and environment standards for sleazy companies with Paul turning a blind eye, vote for the man. I don't want to see North Dakota or west Virginia become toxic slave wage states.

    • 4 months ago
  • BRAVATRAVELS
    • +1
      BRAVATRAVELS  
    • Rhetoric at is best!!!

      I am Soo sick and tired of these rich men that count of the stupidity of many...

      While he brings good points about currency and the unfairness between the 1% and the 99% he also proclaimed to eliminated the only solution and way of living of those who are in that situation because of the corruption of a government without regulations or rules. Just like any other Republican " Don't Tax the Rich"
      Yeah! magic is going to solved all of our problems Mr. paul!

      The wolf always dresses like a sheep///

      Obama 2012!

      I rather have spineless than Evil!!!

    • 4 months ago
  • Truthitswhatsfordinner
  • BRAVATRAVELS
  • remanns
  • remanns
    • +1
      remanns  
    • He is correct - welfare buys off to a great extent the propensity of the poor masses to simply rise up and execute the rich ; bread and circuses baby, bread and circuses.

    • 4 months ago
  • galwayman
    • +2
      galwayman  
    • right and pigs fly! look the point is morally we can not abandon those who need help. while we also need to make education and jobs a priority we must provide a way to feed,house,and support those who are unable to help themselves while providing ways to self sufficiency for every American! The system is broken because we have failed to do so! America isn't broke! we have the means! TAX THE RICH! every American must pay their fair share!

    • 4 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
    • +1
      Gravity_Man  
    • Every time the system collapses the people at the top are still at the top except better, because they are positioned to buy up all the stocks & property at bargain basement prices.

      heheh I only posted that on Current two years ago. Glad to see Mr. Paul has caught up. So that means the "Bailouts" put them even HIGHER ON THAT HILL from which they knew they could later come in and rack up, using their GOV'T-PILFERED FORTUNES TO DO SO.

    • 4 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
  • DemGloriousBums
  • Gravity_Man
    • 0
      Gravity_Man  
    • DemGloriousBums:

      I just love [their bread]. To have a successful Revolution one needs lots of power, people and arms. Well, that deals me out!

      I know! Sit and blog => Yeah Baby!!! We'll teach them revenooers who not ta mess with!!!

    • 4 months ago
  • DemGloriousBums
  • Gravity_Man
    • 0
      Gravity_Man  
    • DemGloriousBums:

      Sounds right cut & dry. People with money buy more stuff duh. I listen to some of the best minds discussing economics and a few hours ago they were saying how many foreclosed-on properties are being bought up by people with money.

      You can insult me but I'll hold the cards I have thanks. You go talk stupid talk to squirrels in the park if ya want.

    • 4 months ago
  • Rush_Rules
  • Gravity_Man
    • 0
      Gravity_Man  
    • Rush_Rules:

      A few of the rich have to be allowed to fail, spotted around to mask over all the ones who succeed. A neat trick by true masterminds of currencies & stocks.

      Conversely, if ALL THE RICH SUCCEEDED PEOPLE WOULD NOTICE and hmm, probably start inventing new devices like automated guillotines that chase them.

      And catch them.

    • 4 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
  • Gravity_Man
  • Rush_Rules
  • Gravity_Man
  • bertfish
  • wally60
    • +1
      wally60  
    • when you idiots elect newt or obama you will see nothing change it will be business as usual.this man has some crazy ideas but this is exactly what we need.and remember he wont ge anything done just as obama has had problems getting anything done.the rest of our goverment wont particapate in change

    • 4 months ago
  • Anonmaly
    • -1
      Anonmaly  
    • Whatever... Depending on who's perspective pure democracy can be dangerous. For starters we don't even have a "pure" democracy, we have "representative democracy", and it's about corrupt beyond repair.

      I do think he chose the wrong words, which he does, he's an awkward intellectual Dr.... He's not the typical politician by any stretch, and the fact that he's not a trained debater like a lawyer, or businessman turned politician.... Of course perfection isn't exactly seen out of "enjoy marijuana prohibition" Obama either...

      Idk, I've spent years giving and sharing, trying to give sound advice to people just to watch them ignore it, and the impose on me for more direct financial assistance. It would be funny, but I'm not wealthy, what I do give is not out of excess, it comes at the cost of me going without in sometimes important areas.

      And my "sink or swim" attitude I like to cop from time to time with irresponsible idiots get's me painted into a corner by so called "loved ones'... It's total bullshit, but my house remains open, to family members I shouldn't have to help, to children I didn't bring into the world, but whose parents are just too damn sorry to give a shit... Not because they can't find and hold a paying job, but they're fucking sorry..... (this shit's coming to a halt real shortly, and is all a whole other issue.)

      Point being there are plenty of people who support Ron Paul and his ideas who would give you the shirt off their own backs if they thought it would help, and a few that would knowing it won't help... I know; being there for, feeding, and housing spare, perfectly able relatives is about like feeding a stray dog..... It's a fact, the lecherous fuckers know I'm always sitting on a whole dollar bill just in case I need a patch kit for my blow-up-doll (metaphor, but damn near that bad)....

      I mean wtf?.... Some people just want to be sorry, and they all aren't on the top or bottom of the food chain, they are everywhere and in between, and if that lazy bitch can't find enough heart to get off his ass, oh-well, I'm tired of feeding him.... If you're not elderly or disabled, grow up... (and Paul is not going to cut medicare or social security, or many social programs for that matter, it's not politically feasible, he got caught up in a rhetoric war again, and either didn't see the spin coming or doesn't care.)

      And for the corporations, fuck their subsidies, screw their non existent tax rate (raise it), quit with the "we make jobs" bullshit, you idiots have monopolies effectively written into law through your lobbyists you ass-holes... That's the "Welfare" they get, that can and does need to end....

    • 4 months ago
  • dinm76
  • letsliveinpeace
  • Jpwhoregan
  • JohnA
  • supermanrico
    • +4
      supermanrico  
    • This guy is completely stupid!!. If capitalism CAN get jobs for everybody forever and never lay off anyone then I will agree with him. That will never happen. So this is the proof that this guy is completely stupid. Period.!

    • 4 months ago
  • faye59
    • +4
      faye59  
    • supermanrico:

      This nut job just pulls ignorant answers out of his deluded mind. Many of the people who need welfare lost their retirement funds to unscrupulous assholes who stole their life savings. I think it's time this idiot leaves the race, his ideas are more insane than Old Hermie's were.

    • 4 months ago
  • Jpwhoregan
  • cmc101
  • supermanrico
  • supermanrico
  • ThirdSection
  • KB723
  • LivingPong
  • KB723
  • ThirdSection
  • Jpwhoregan
  • cmc101
  • Milieu
  • KB723
  • joeredford
  • jackhole
    • +2
      jackhole  
    • Image
    • Grrrrrrrrl! you take that back you bully! Ron Paul is our savior, he has the superior intellect that libertards lack, he can chew though a 499 feet thick block of solid steel. He can cure all that is wrong in the world. Bring back slavery and do it right this time. He can shape shift. Travel trough time, wet nurse babies.

      he can cut waste, so much in fact that people will be bungee jumping using recycled dental floss. he can plank using his penis ( Planking (or the Lying Down Game) is an activity consisting of lying face down in an unusual or incongruous location. ) he can kiss your ouches!

      So you see he clearly can run the nation but he most likely will rule the universe.

    • 4 months ago
  • KB723
  • jackhole
  • KB723
  • jackhole
  • KB723
  • circlesquared
  • jackhole
  • Vierotchka
  • KB723
  • circlesquared
  • PressCore
    • +7
      PressCore  
    • Vierotchka:

      He won't be, but I will V. I miss Lake Geneva, Mont Blanc, the Suisse Credit
      ingots, and Gold coins in the Bank windows. But most of all I miss the high
      country, because, as the Indians always believed, it's closer to God, and
      thus sacred ground. I only lived in Switzerland on a 90 day passport visa
      back in 1979. But I was nonetheless supremely impressed by all I took in.
      I get the feeling since. like the Netherlands, Switzerland is renown for it's
      tolerance I can live there in Peace. I'm not one to want to make waves.
      And I do like the notion of pure, direct Democracy, and to bear arms. To
      my knowledge, Switzerland was only conquered once during the time of
      Napoleon. But like Colorado, I consider it my home too. As William Penn
      was once quoted as saying: " Wherever Liberty dwells THERE is my country "

    • 1 day ago
  • Truthitswhatsfordinner
  • remanns
  • circlesquared
    • +10
      circlesquared  
    • you may think Republicans want welfare to go away...not the case. It is not only a way to guarantee control over products offered and purchased, but I am certain JPMorgan doesn't oversee the food stamps in FL for free.

    • 4 months ago
  • JRBarilla
    • +8
      JRBarilla  
    • circlesquared:

      Good point. People often fail to make these connections. All unemployment debit cards are issued by Bank of America. So, they crash the economy, raising the unemployment rate, and then make money off of people using their unemployment benefits.

    • 4 months ago
  • KB723
  • circlesquared
  • KB723
  • circlesquared
  • KB723
  • circlesquared
  • KB723
    • +2
      KB723  
    • circlesquared:

      Nothing I Love more than a good punch in the face of any troublemaker... Been itching for a good fist fight for many years... Sure it can be viewed as child's play, but it sure makes me feel better... =)

    • 4 months ago
  • PressCore
    • +3
      PressCore  
    • circlesquared:

      Not in New York where I live either. JP MOrgan Chase has both the un
      employment insurance & food stamp credit / electronic benefit card
      market cornered here. Deep pockets organizations in the public and
      private sector like the stability the other offers.

    • 4 months ago
  • artemis6
    • +7
      artemis6  
    • circlesquared:

      In my state of Washington , i believe the going rate is a 23 million dollars subsidy and 89 cents every time individual people swipe their Card ... so yeah , kill the goose that lays the golden egg .

    • 4 months ago
  • circlesquared
  • Milieu
  • Truthitswhatsfordinner
  • Truthitswhatsfordinner
  • Jpwhoregan
  • cmc101
  • remanns
  • circlesquared
  • unimatrix0
  • KB723
  • jimstoner
  • KB723
  • Dagum
    • +4
      Dagum  
    • jimstoner:

      In a Pure democracy 51% of the population can take away the rights of 49% of the population. The majority wins even when its will is to oppress minorities.

      That's why the U.S. is a Constitutional democratic"Republic" with constitutionally guaranteed rights that not even the majority can take away.

    • 4 months ago
  • JRBarilla
    • +4
      JRBarilla  
    • jimstoner:

      I'm going to guess he means pure democracy as the actual structure of a government, not a governing philosophy. See, what we have in the U.S. is a democratic republic. We are a democracy in philosophy and a republic in structure in that we have elected representatives who govern us rather than a structure of pure democracy which would be more along the lines of a popular vote on every issue, which can lead to minorities unfairly being drowned out by majorities.

    • 4 months ago
  • AreOh
    • +3
      AreOh  
    • JRBarilla:

      Excellent distinction, and if this is what Paul means, he is correct. The issue of gay marriage is a prime example of something that has suffered in terms of the pure democratic process. The application of alleged constitutionally protected rights should not be applied based on an individuals lifestyle choice, or it's just legalized discrimination.

    • 4 months ago
  • jimstoner
  • JRBarilla
    • +1
      JRBarilla  
    • jimstoner:

      If that's the method being used in the pure democracy, then yes it would be. It doesn't have to be a popular vote though. Pure democracy is when every citizen is part of the governing body versus a republic in which there are representatives who do the governing.

    • 4 months ago
  • Vierotchka
  • jimstoner
    • +4
      jimstoner  
    • JRBarilla:

      So doesn't that mean that America uses both the popular vote, and representation? When a proposition is placed before the people , is that not a referendum, and doesn't the majority rule in these cases?

    • 4 months ago
  • JRBarilla
    • +3
      JRBarilla  
    • jimstoner:

      Yes, and that is done at the state level. A key concept in our system is to limit the power of the central, federal government and allow the people to more directly govern themselves at the state level. In fact, if the people of a state wanted to setup their state government as a pure democracy, they could. The Constitution does not dictate the structure of state governments as long as the rights granted to citizens at the federal level are not being threatened or taken away.

    • 4 months ago
  • jimstoner
  • JRBarilla
  • circlesquared
  • JRBarilla
  • AreOh
    • +5
      AreOh  
    • circlesquared:

      I don't give a damn how the IRS would respond. Every contributing member of our union is entitled to the same rights as everyone else. Anything less than that is just discrimination and not the American way.

      Us making the rules is precisely my point. Rules that affect how someone lives should not be voted upon, especially when they infringe on people's rights. Privileges protected by the Constitution are not a matter of public debate, no matter how unpopular they are.

      People that believe it should be are just bigots using democracy as a cover to justify inequality. And that's not what America was founded to be about.

    • 4 months ago
1 - 100 of 167
more from Community:

top videos