LAPD deputy chief wins Ask Obama contest with pro-drug-legalization question

What about human rights? What about violence in Mexico? What about the millions of people who have had their lives ruined because of pot laws? What does that have to do with getting stoned other than it's a result of the government trying to prevent you from toking up?

Not a serious issue? I don't think you understand the scope of the whole topic...

I do understand the scope. If you want to get stoned, get stoned. But the medical marijuana bullshit stories, how it cures cancer, how the Big Pharma is trying to take it over, how it is completely harmless, et al, just a smoke screen. And violence in Mexico? Why that is all America's fault, if it wasn't for us, Mexico would be fuckin' paradise. What about the millions of people still standing in the same place 30 years later, still smoking, still not motivated to do shit?

If that's your bag, fine. But knock off the smokescreen (so to speak).

Lots of more important shit to worry about.

You just proved you don't understand the topic.

Personally, I do enjoy toking up in my free time. I'm a mechanical engineer, graduated with honors even and I was smoking all through college. You can't tell me weed makes people useless do-nothings. I've done quite well for myself and so have many millions of people all the way up to the president himself and all the way back to the rise of civilization thousands of years ago.

What you're doing is minimalizing it down to people just wanting to be stoned and lazy [read: generic cop-out] without actually comprehending the ramifications of laws that seek to stop people from doing it.

Our policies on drugs, especially cannabis, actually fuel some of the worst problems facing society such as cartel wars in Mexico which have claimed over 50,000 lives in the last decade and ruined countless more. It is estimated about 60% of the cartel profits are from cannabis alone. Cartels fuel mafias, street gangs, and even many otherwise law abiding citizens who are willing to break the law to cash in on an extremely lucrative market. One that hasn't gone anywhere despite all our government's apparent efforts and hundreds of billions of tax payer dollars. The government can't stop cannabis use, instead they are making many problems worse by putting all the control over inflated goods in the hands of lawless criminals. And these issues don't stop with Mexico. Millions of lives have been lost because of our policies influencing and pressuring other countries around the world to do the same.

Relative to the harm caused by prohibition, cannabis IS harmless AND actually does have far more important uses than just getting high. Food, fuel, fiber, medicine, and recreation... but thanks to people with your mentality we continue a futile and self-defeating policy of making cannabis use a criminal matter rather than a public health issue.

Well, you've got yourself convinced. As for my mentality, as you call it, it comes from experience. I know plenty of people that smoke weed, I used to smoke a shitload of it myself. And I know far more people that are de-motivated by it, than are successful despite their use of it. And, I don't know if you'll admit to this or not, I know probably 50 people with the medical marijuana recommendation, and maybe 1 of them has a legitimate reason for using it, glaucoma. The rest will freely admit that they told the doctor what the doctor wanted to hear, just to get their prescription, excuse me, recommendation.

You mentioned the drug cartels. Tell me, if you eliminate the legal issue here, and make it freely available, what are the drug cartels going to do then? You and I both know that they aren't willing to work, they want the easy money. What next? I'm not advocating supporting the drug cartels or anything like that, it's just that if they can't make money off of pot, they will find something else to bootleg outside normal society.

And smoking anything, is not harmless. And the food, fuel, fiber argument, well, the great majority if just recreational drug use. Which is fine, do what you want. I get drug tested now for work, and to me, it isn't worth it to lose a very good job over dope.

As I also mentioned before, there are much more important things to worry about than marijuana. Way down the list of priorities, at least MY priorities.

Along with a bag full of others.

Thanks immensely for the link. My blog concentrates on articles related to
or bearing directly on this topic nearly to the exclusion of all else.

Puffin'.... =)

Omg not you?! It's illegal don't you know? Every time you puff a kitten dies somewhere. Excuse me while I reload my vaporizer d; )- ~~

I need to find me one of those, when I have some bread to spend... =)

Pays for itself plus your lungs will thank you...slow here tonight

Tried to post a link to where I got mine but wouldn't post.
Go to 'GotVape dot com'

Cool as Hell!!! Thanks FoosMaster... =)
Holy Cow $400.00's???

My Lungs would be Happy, the crowd has certainly dwindled, but we are still here... =)

Would love to have a chance to share with you someday. ;-)

You never know Friend.... We may be Cell Mates someday... =)

I am a bit more of an optimist. Maybe one of us will attend some kind of event in the other's area someday. ;-)

That could happen as well, lets keep in touch... =)

I suspect one tea bagger flagged your question and YouTube knee-jerked it off the site. Google corporation is a nest of gutless, unprincipled money whores with no conception of the amount of freedom it took to allow them to develop their global censorship and surveillance system.

Possible. Or since Monsanto et al are more than likely part of the Defense Department, he isn't allowed to utter their names so it was pulled by "other" interests.

most likely the case

Sanders/Grayson ticket?

I'd vote for them.

Great question, isn't it appalling that such an important issue as our food supply has become a topic which even in a question form becomes censorship? When is the american public going to wake up and realize what is going on and how important this is? All we have to do is stop eating this junk. Don't buy it and l promise we can stop it.

Of course it was censored, he cannot answer that question, even with his gift of gab. We all know that, but it doesn't make me feel any better.

http://www.thenation.com/article/154739/blackwaters-black-ops?page=full

Of course it was censored: Monsanto is a part of the military industrial complex...
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"Over the past several years, entities closely linked to the private security firm Blackwater have provided intelligence, training and security services to US and foreign governments as well as several multinational corporations, including Monsanto, Chevron, the Walt Disney Company, Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines and banking giants Deutsche Bank and Barclays, according to documents obtained by The Nation. Blackwater's work for corporations and government agencies was contracted using two companies owned by Blackwater's owner and founder, Erik Prince: Total Intelligence Solutions and the Terrorism Research Center (TRC). Prince is listed as the chairman of both companies in internal company documents, which show how the web of companies functions as a highly coordinated operation. Officials from Total Intelligence, TRC and Blackwater (which now calls itself Xe Services) did not respond to numerous requests for comment for this article.

One of the most incendiary details in the documents is that Blackwater, through Total Intelligence, sought to become the "intel arm" of Monsanto, offering to provide operatives to infiltrate activist groups organizing against the multinational biotech firm."
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I would guess the same MO is also being used against environmentalists, free speech advocates, anti war groups and groups pushing for the legalization of marijuana. This goes deep.

The worst part is (well there are many worst parts) we just allow this kind of bs to continue. No way am I including you into the "we" part of my sentence above, matter of fact whenever I want to get to the heart of the Monsanto matter, I come here to Current and search out your recent entries, as I know you have the most up to date info. But, as far as the rest of us, I feel we must educate people, this is not some freaking conspiracy theory. Obama was probably not aware of how deep this entire food thing went until he was later briefed and that might be why he at first glance wanted to be our hero and label gmo food, then he found out it wasn't gonna happen. We are the only ones who make any change in our food supply and it will have to come through the concerned efforts of mothers across the land. I just hope it won't be too late? GMO is two fold; the insertion of (fill in the blank?) into our seeds and the heavy spraying of deadly chemicals on our planet.

btw...have you seen this? I ran across it last night? http://lucaslaursen.com/clips/brinjalbiopiracy.pdf

and this "The State Department is using taxpayer money to help push the agenda of Monsanto and its friends all across the world. Here's a recent example: Assistant Secretary of State Jose W. Fernandez, addressing an event of high-level government officials from around the world, agribusiness CEOs, leaders from international organizations, and anti-hunger groups said, "Without agricultural biotechnology, our world would look vastly different. One of our challenges is how to grow more crops on the same land. This is where biotechnology plays a role." he must have his finger crossed behind his back, right? ;)

It's apparent that Jose Fernandez isn't a farmer and knows little about soil biology. Not that I know everything either, but I do know this current GMO/ industrial method is stripping our soil bare of nutrients and causing a nitrogen/CO2 overload. Fingers crossed for sure. Perhaps if they left agricultural policy to people who actually know agriculture the world would be in a healthier place. And yes, I know Monsanto is being sued in India for biopiracy of brinjal traits. This I believe also dovetails now to support for ACTA.

I suggest that you vote for Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, rather than Ron Paul.

agreed...he's my write in of choice currently as well

Or Elizabeth Warren. ;-)

Yes