Eight Sea Lions Found Shot to Death in Washington
source: http://www.treehugger.com/ocean-conservation/eight-endangered-seal-lions-shot-death-seattle....
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According to local news affiliate KING-TV, officials from Washington's Department of Fish and Wildlife and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration have yet to identify the person or persons responsible for the illegal killings of sea lions, but the method has been the same.
Investigators said they do not know who killed the sea lions. The penalty for poaching a sea lion could range from fees to possible jail time.
One of the sea lions found on the Nisqually River was a Stellar sea lion, federally protected under the Endangered Species Act. The one found in West Seattle was a California sea lion, which are a protected under the Marine Mammal Protection Act.
Some suspect the animals' deaths stem from the historically contentious relationship between fishermen and sea lions, who are often seen as competitors for available fish in and around Puget Sound. KING-TV reports that this isn't the first time human conflicts with sea lions has escalated to violence; in 2010, five sea lions were discovered shot to death near Seattle in a similar case which has yet to be resolved.
Such crimes against wildlife can result in fines or jail time.
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Vierotchka
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Sarah Palin admirers, no doubt... :(
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Vierotchka
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letsliveinpeace
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This is so sad, the idiots that did this, find them lock them up.
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letsliveinpeace
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Tayllerand
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I am a believer that abiding citizens should own guns, not the criminals. I also believe in the second amendment, some people want the bill of rights to be change according to their world. The world doesn't work that way. guns don't kill people only stupid aholes who dont know anything about guns.
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Tayllerand
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Tayllerand
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I think this is gang initiation.
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Tayllerand
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bailey78
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Don't outlaw guns but make it harder for folks to buy bullets. Like buying beer if they look fucked up don't sell them any. That would stop most rednecks from ever buying another round of ammo.
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bailey78
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wolfess
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bailey78:
Outlaw lawyers who get this pondscum off on technicalities.
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wolfess
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EmperorThan
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"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." -Kant
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EmperorThan
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DEM46
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EmperorThan:
Absolutely.
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DEM46
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EmperorThan
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What kind of sick person attacks a defenseless thing?
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EmperorThan
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DEM46
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EmperorThan:
Completely frustrated ones. We (society) need to find a better solution. See my explanation below.
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DEM46
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percipi224
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we had some texans come to colorado and kill 9 moose, with elk tickets. they did it on purpose. for the trophies. they had all of their suvs, equipment guns seized and huge fines, plus all hunting priveliges removed for life here and in texas.
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percipi224
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rerushg
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percipi224:
They're lucky we're a "nation of laws". Time was, not that long ago, they'd have never made it back to Texas.
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rerushg
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wolfess
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rerushg:
And somehow that sounds sooooo much better :-)!
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wolfess
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Joeydee44
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Was Sarah Palin's helicopter anywhere in the vacinity?
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Joeydee44
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WagonMaster
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Sometimes it has little to do about fishermen vs sea lions and more to do about an ass hole with a new gun.
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WagonMaster
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DEM46
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WagonMaster:
Actually, in this case (I'm originally from Seattle) there are boat locks that go from one waterway to another. At the entrance from Puget Sound, the Sea Lions feast on Salmon that have to navigate through a fish ladder at the entrance to these locks. The Sea Lions decimate the Salmon population when the spawning occurs. They can eat more than a hundred per day. There have been CA Sea Lions that they have relocated several times to Southern CA again and again. These huge males keep swimming back up a couple of weeks later. They've tried to scare them off with fireworks, blanks, you name it. This is tragic all around as it is a man-made problem and the Sea Lions are just taking advantage of it. BTW: the one's causing problems and I'm sure being shot are not the cute cuddly one in the pic above. The males weigh over 1000lbs. and have huge teeth and would bite your hand off if cornered. Just say'n.
Frustration had been off the charts for years.
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DEM46
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rerushg
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DEM46:
Yeah, I understand. And this isn't the only place where this kind of thing happens. It's just aggravating. Someone pulled the trigger.... and pulled it again.... and again.....and.....
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rerushg
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DEM46
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rerushg:
Agreed, I wish it weren't happening but it is and some other method has to be found. Even Fish and game from WA State proposed killing a couple of the worst offenders when they couldn't do anything else. You can only take them back to CA so many times and the noise and other harassment measures didn't bother them at all. They have a great memory and were back in WA less than two weeks later.
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DEM46
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DEM46:
It's the repTEAtards in congress' fault -- if they hadn't ruined our ecosystem this wouldn't be happening :-).
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wolfess
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DEM46:
Understood. Thanks for bringing facts to the discussion. If there's some additional development or resolution to this matter please let us know. :)
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rerushg
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FreeSpiritMuse
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DEM46:
From the NOAA site, it looks like they authorized "removing" sea lions and then withdrew in July. Thanks Dem46.
May 13, 2011: NOAA Fisheries announced that it is authorizing the states of Washington and Oregon to remove California sea lions that feed on ESA-listed salmon in the Columbia River Basin.
July 26, 2011: We informed Washington and Oregon that we're withdrawing our letter of authorization to lethally remove California sea lions at Bonneville Dam (PDF 103KB)
http://www.nwr.noaa.gov/Marine-Mammals/Seals-and-Sea-Lions/Sec-120-Authority.cfm
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FreeSpiritMuse
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DEM46:
It's bad that they are eating the Salmon, but there must be better ways of handling this besides shooting them.
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Vierotchka
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DEM46:
They have as much if not more rights on the salmons as do humans.
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FreeSpiritMuse
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Leen61:
I thought the same, there must be some other way, some technology or something other means besides shooting them to death.
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FreeSpiritMuse
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Vierotchka:
They do and it makes me wonder what is happening with their food supply.
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FreeSpiritMuse:
nature adapts to change...it's easy pickens for em like the bear grabbing salmon at the waterfall...it is our turn to prove we can do the same and rectify the situation. Change we need will have to be instigated by us
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circlesquared
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Incredulous
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depraved humans, sad and disgusting.
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Incredulous
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DEM46
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Incredulous:
See my comment to WagonMaster. It seems these are heartless people and I'm not condoning it but, one has to look at the bigger picture of why it's happening. This is not just shooting them because these people are depraved.
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DEM46
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The_Wanderer_Kansas
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Another prime example of the horrendous acts humans are capable. If there is a struggle for fishermen in the area to make a living due to lowered fish density they need to be fighting against the real causes... I say this because I know that sea lions and seals have been fishing those waters for millenia longer then we have, but when we arrived the fish populations were still very abundant. This is so akin to the slaughter of bison to protect grazing lands for our much less impressive cows.
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The_Wanderer_Kansas:
Good points you've made. There's the immediate remedy then there is as you wrote fighting against the real causes. This is an investment of time, a sacrifice and not an immediate solution. At what point in all that's going on do we give consideration to the future and not to just how we feel at this moment?
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FreeSpiritMuse
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The_Wanderer_Kansas
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FreeSpiritMuse:
Sadly I only have three words: The human condition. :-(
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The_Wanderer_Kansas:
exactly, not understanding by killing the bison we were killing the plains...hence the dust bowl
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circlesquared:
Your partially right, the loss of the bison caused unforseen stress to the ecosystem here, but there were several more man made variables involved, poor crop choices, lack of watershed knowledge, removal of indigenous plant species, wide spread burning and bad tilling practices et cetera et cetera. Being a resident here in Kansas we actually still have many people who remember those days that are insistant that the younger generations learn from that mistake... too bad this wasn't practiced more by our elders.
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KB723
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Not Cool!!!
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KB723
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KB723:
Not cool at all.
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FreeSpiritMuse:
I don't know how folks can be so Cruel... =(
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KB723:
Punk ass little bitches is what do things like this to little critters.
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bailey78