Hunting Nazis: Anonymous snares Ron Paul in Operation Blitzkrieg
source: http://www.examiner.com/anonymous-in-national/hunting-nazis-anonymous-snares-ron-paul-operat...
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On Tuesday, Anonymous enthusiasts hacked and defaced the website of American Third Position (A3P), a major US-based white supremacist network. According to Anonymous, documents liberated in the hack show that “Ron Paul has regularly met with many A3P members, even engaging in conference calls with their board of directors.”
The notorious international Internet hacktivist collective known as Anonymous is currently targeting American Nazis and white supremacists as part of their ongoing Operation Blitzkrieg (#OpBlitzkrieg). On Sunday, as part of Operation Blitzkrieg, hacktivists associated with Anonymous hacked and defaced the web page belonging to the American Nazi Party.
http://www.examiner.com/anonymous-in-national/hunting-nazis-anonymous-snares-ron...
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maasanova
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"Ron Paul poses for a photo with Mando Najera of Nevada after Paul spoke at at a "Hispanics in Politics" event Feb. 1, 2012 in Las Vegas, Nev. (Ethan Miller/Getty Images)"
These e-mail exchanges that "Anonymous" illegally obtained are only useful if you are interested in what the White Nationalist movement is doing politically and what they think about Ron Paul, but nothing on Ron Paul's work with these groups.
I guess the idea was to create some kind of guilt by association of White nationalism to Ron Paul, but it fell quite short of that if you actually read the e-mail correspondences.
Meanwhile while people are trying to link these groups to Ron Paul, Ron Paul is busy campaigning to "Hispanics in politics", not "Whites in Politics."
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-ron-paul-nevada-latino-forum-20120201...
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maasanova
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unimatrix0
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The denial, obfuscation, misdirection, and excuses of Paul supporters is truly astonishing.
It is also quite funny.
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Buddha2112
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Glad everyone read the emails and have decent reasoning... Why are there so many zombies here? RTFP or GTFO... The post is a slander attempt with no basis in anything other than nazi's private opinion... These are not Paul's words, nor his sentiments, nor his policies.
Someone, please explain, because I can't fathom the misguided hatred and ignorance.
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Buddha2112
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maasanova
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Buddha2112:
Just like you said, the e-mails show nothing from the Ron Paul campaign, it's just white people e-mailing back and forth about Ron Paul.
Big deal. People from all walks of life are e-mailing each other back and forth about Ron Paul.
The two black guys who sit in front of me at work are e-mailing each other back and forth and talking about voting for Ron Paul.
The problem doesn't seem to be Ron Paul so much as far leftists like unimatirx0 being more upset at at the fact that these white-oriented movements are organizing politically. For some reason whites (especially white Christians), and to some extent, Muslims who organize politically is a big No-No.
All other ethnicities and poltical subgroups like abortionists and the militant LGTB movements, Communists etc are allowed to organize politically without being called racists or slandered by the media.
That's the real issue here, because you don't see them attacking black groups who are organizing and supporting Ron Paul.
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maasanova
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fascinating!
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percipi224
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faye59
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No surprise there. Even repos know Paul is poison. Finally.
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Raif
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Link to emails below.
http://pastebin.com/t8mbyQUS - 4 months ago
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Raif:
Thanks for posting that.
Ron Paul says nothing in those emails... Actually, he is totally not involved in any of the conversations. What IS there is a group of white supremacists organizing THEIR OWN support of Paul. I don't see an issue here.
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this seems unreal, only of course by his messages substance; His stance on foreign policy is very un-nazi, his stance on gay marriage where the government should be out of it completely is un-nazi, and his stance on the NDAA is of course, very un-nazi. It purely makes no sense, if Obama met with Castro to [finally] talk about ending the Cuban embargo would that make him a communist?
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coolplanet
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Why is this Comedy?
Did I miss the punchline? - 4 months ago
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coolplanet:
Paulbots are acting out - poor little guys just can't handle the truth.
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unimatrix0:
Ba da boom! :}
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unimatrix0:
What truth is here? That white supremacists happen to support Paul? If so, wtf is the issue of that, when there is no proof of Paul being racist. I don't get it, you say there is truth here, and there is, but it's not anything people can't handle... racists fucks supported obama too, solely based on race... That's not why Obama is bad, there are far more other, more important reasons. Why is everyone (including you) still so childish and ignorant?
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circlesquared
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the down arrows love this post
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circlesquared
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circlesquared
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vote for Paul or don't...choice is a big part of why we are all here, but know regardless, the Nazi's are here and they aren't going to leave regardless of who they elect.
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Ironic, isn't it, that "white people" aren't actually white, nor are they pure anything else ... like the rest of us.
At any rate, "white supremacists" are immature human beings, but these predatory tactics of Anonymous are immature as well. Yes, they may be opposed to the dogma of white supremacy, but I see little else in their methods worth admiring.
To me, they are simply another human monster to avoid.
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LOL WHAT THE FUCK!! HAHAHAHAHA YO THIS SHIT IS CLASSIC! OPERATION BLITZKRIEG? IM LAUGHING SO HARD IM STARTING TO TEAR UP. WHAT A WAY TO GET EXPOSED.
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Ambill94
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Way to go Dr Ronnie...makes a fellow Texan proud...between you and Ricky I don't know which of you makes me prouder...
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Milieu
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Isn't it odd that a frightened, angry, little bigoted gnome is finally exposed by people who put freedom first?
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Milieu:
"Freedom"? Predatory attacks on freedom of speech are "freedom"? No, they are a slap in the face of freedom. What you miss is the fact that "freedom of speech" isn't designed to protect popular speech - it is designed to protect unpopular speech.
What could be less popular than the childish speech of white supremacists?
If Anonymous is fighting for "freedom", it is my hope they stay far, far away from me and those I care for.
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Naumadd:
They have freed the little gnome "To Be All He Can Be" just like the immoral, ignorant, pig-brained, dead fish that call themselves Libertarians would free people to suffer and die.
Ironic, ain't it?
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Milieu:
Well, if you're truly free, but you suffer and die anyway, there's no one else to blame, is there.
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warman1138
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Oooops! Hand in the cookie jar.
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Ron Paul, the American Third Position Party and Stormfront
Read more: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/291000/20120201/anonymous-ron-paul-neo-nazi-bn...also http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/290374/20120131/ron-paul-anonymous-neo-nazi-op...
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Ron Paul and his Golden Horde are unstoppable. You can't kill zombies. Our only hope is that they don't multiply very fast.
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Nice try.... Outright lies, he didn't author the so called "Ron Paul Papers", that honor goes to James B. Powell...
Jamie Kelso and his ilk used trying to associate with, and possibly even communicating with Paul or his camp, with white supremacy, basically using Paul, as a glorified advertisement to potential converts....
We call this "riding coattails"... Or "____ riding"...... That's about all it amounts to.
Oh one of the reasons Chris Hedges filed suit against Obama, is because he's interviewed many "terrorists" has been embedded overseas with them. This makes him a potential target under the part of the NDAA Obama says he won't use....
Why would a politician not have a broad feel for all demographics (maybe even the more radical accused "terrorist" types)? Even the U.S. military has to acknowledge that at some point in time, whichever boogey-man we're supposed to be fighting in Afghanistan, has got to be reasoned with.... Unless of course we just bomb them all to death...
You're biased article confirms NOTHING.... He already admitted he took all donations, just like gangster rappers have no problem selling their albums (when they could actually sell them) to upper middle class white kids, the same kids they generally hated growing up.....
WTF "Anonymous" is such a cliche, you've even got groups within the DoD driven intelligence agencies masquerading around as "Anonymous".....
Actually it's very fitting that they continue a smear campaign, outright lie, hell maybe even forge some emails, or such... But the fact remains Paul's meetings, or associations with any of these characters was minimal at best, and half the DoD is "job scared" if Paul wins they might have to get real jobs, bombing babies from desks in Arizona and Arlington won't last forever.....
What about Obama and the "Weather Underground", and his preacher of 30 years, the same one that married him.... Rev, Wright; "God-Damn America".....
Now certainly we aren't all claiming that Obama is the fruition of the Weather Undergrounds plot to overthrow the U.S. government, even if his (former at this point) preacher makes that a really believable scenario.....
Wish this fake faction of "Anonymous" would get the fuck out of the propaganda business, their making their more intelligent non-associates look bad.....
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Anonmaly:
The Washington Post reports (below) a Romney--Paul political accommodation.
Your comments---Is this a "say it ain't so, Joe" moment for you as a Paul fan, OR just more smart political alliance making by Ron? Nazis, Romney,racists, its all good.
"Despite deep differences on a range of issues, Romney and Paul became friends in 2008, the last time both ran for president. So did their wives, Ann Romney and Carol Paul. The former Massachusetts governor compliments the Texas congressman during debates, praising Paul’s religious faith during the last one, in Jacksonville, Fla. Immediately afterward, as is often the case, the Pauls and the Romneys gravitated toward one another to say hello.
The Romney-Paul alliance is more than a curious connection. It is a strategic partnership: for Paul, an opportunity to gain a seat at the table if his long-shot bid for the presidency fails; for Romney, a chance to gain support from one of the most vibrant subgroups within the Republican Party."
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Ron Paul and his supporters are like gold---they like gold, are largely unreactive. Gold jewellery can lie underground for thousands of years and emerge shiny after that lengthy exposure to air, water, and other chemicals in the environment.
Nazi affiliations are not aqua regia, for Ron Paul or the Golden Horde.
The name aqua regia was coined by alchemists because of its ability to dissolve gold - the "king of metals".
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ThatCrazyLibertarian:
Good one.
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Ron Paul also is in contact with Elvis, according to Anonymous LMNOP.
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It wasn't anonymous.
There is the real hacker group that takes down real targets like the Justice Department's website the MPAA and RIAA in response to their attacks on the freedom of the internet i.e. taking down Mega uploads, and support for SOPA/PIPA
Then there is the fake George Soros branch that attacks things like CBS, Susan G. Komen for the Cure( a website dedicated to eradicating breast cancer), and an apparent white supremacist website with an attempt to link it to Ron Paul to bolster support for the rapidly failing but only manufactured 'meme' they had against him.
And then a clueless examiner reporter Post Hoc attempts to push the idea it was the work of "anonymous."
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Dagum:
Splitting hairs as to who or who is not "anonymous" is retarded.
It's just a group of hackers that frequent IRC channels or 4chan or other centers that affiliate themselves with the label.
They're a diverse group of people and there is no official membership list or even a set of criteria required to be one of them.
I'd have to see the documents before I believed it, but it's hardly "fake."
Things aren't looking good for Ron Paul. Since he opposes the Civil Rights act and is a Confederate sympathizer, it honestly wouldn't surprise me.
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Saladin:
Considering 4chan postings and threads are usually about as racist as the white supremacists sites taken down, you're FoS.
As you said it is a "group". There are no lists. Tthere is a distinct group of individual hackers from the Soros fakers that attack CBS, Komen for the Cure( a website dedicated to eradicating breast cancer), and an apparent white supremacist website with an attempt to link it to Ron Paul.
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Saladin:
C'mon Saladin you're smarter than this.
There's no proof of what is being claimed here, this is just what people some simple-minded people want to believe. It's just a purely made up claim.
I can write some bullshit about Barack Hussein Obama being a secret Muslim wanting to bring Sharia Law to American because Obama has a funny name and he was once photographed wearing some ethnic clothing.
Dumb people will believe it, but that doesn't mean it's true.
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Saladin:
Splitting hairs isn't as important, but it's not retarded. Hackers or not, the name Anonymous has been tied to strict idea of freedom of speech, whatever that speech may be. It's inherent in the idea of being anonymous... Having the security and freedom to say whatever the fuck you want. Defacing websites is not part of this idea. Slander is not part of this idea. Exposing truth is, and they've exposed nothing new here, nor anything shocking, nor anything important, except create a little negative buzz.
It's not about membership, I'll give you that, and nor is this 'fake'... There isn't a real anon or a fake anon, but to the main idea being anonymous (as a pen name even) is to be free and safe in whatever you wish to say. Using the moniker to identify yourself with others is backwards, and using it as a guise to do exactly what you hate (restricting free speech) is hypocritical and honestly weakens any effort put forward to secure free speech.
It's just ok for the majority of people because they don't agree with racism... This is a double standard for most, and should not be celebrated... If you have a brain at least.
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maasanova:
since when do you need proof.
or do you need ron paul to dance, as that obviously meets the burden of proof? - 4 months ago
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freecrack:
Someone hacked a white oriented website and found them discussing and organizing for Ron Paul. Big deal.
You can go on black websites and find people discussing and organizing for Ron Paul. They have dozens of Facebook pages devoted for that.
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maasanova:
that isnt the question at hand.the question is why guilt by association is iron clad sometimes (when it serves to demonize jews) and not other times (when bigots share views with paul).
if israelis supposedly rejoicing at the wtc being hit serves as a piece of evidence that the israeli government was behind the attack, then how would literal direct correspondence between paul and proud open racists not show his agenda?
their are plenty of paul supporters that arent nutjob racists.and their are plenty of zionists who love america above all else.but it doesnt seem to work that way when applying your standards of judgement.that is what i am calling into question.
so explain to me how 3/4/5 (depending on which tin foil hat wearing freak you listen to) people who happen to be israeli, seeming to rejoice at the wtc being hit is enough evidence to implicate the israeli government in the attacks.
while literal literal correspondance with bigots who share political views with paul, doesnt serve as evidence that paul is a racist prick?im allgood with the notion that paul is a victim of circumstance.im not gunna hate on paul until he himself deserves it and pulls a mel gibson.im asking you for equality n your standards of judgement, or to explain the variables im not seeing.which we all know you totaly cant do
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freecrack:
"so explain to me how 3/4/5 (depending on which tin foil hat wearing freak you listen to) people who happen to be israeli, seeming to rejoice at the wtc being hit is enough evidence to implicate the israeli government in the attacks."
Because it wasn't just the Israelis who were caught cheering celebrating the 9/11 terror bombings and who were subsequently arrested on the day of the attacks.
http://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it
There was also the Israelis who got a special advanced warning of the attacks via Odigo instant messaging sevice whose office was in Herzliya, plus the Israeli intelligence front, Urban Moving Systems whose office was was raided by the FBI and whose owner, the Israeli Dominic Suter who fled to Israel, remains on the FBI's wanted list as a 9/11 terrorist suspect, in addition to that was all of the Mossad agents who were living in very close proximity to the alleged 9/11 highjackers, not to mention the Israeli security firm ICTS controlling the security at all four airports from where the planes were highjacked, plus the media showing us the clips of their enemies (the Palestinians) celebrating an event unrelated to 9/11 while the evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 was classified until 2030 and dozens of other connections too numerous and extensive to mention here.
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maasanova:
yup, thanks for listing all the examples of how guilt by association is all you need to attack jews, while not applying that same standard to others.
it would have taken me a very long time to go from example to example of your assumptions creating what you claim is facts, but you went ahead and just listed them one after another for us.thanks
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Probably just the establishment pretending to be annonomous to tarnish the only un-establishment candidate. That is the only problem with being anonymous, anyone can pretend to be you.
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the Nazi's have been a big part of the underside of our gov't since WW2. The Bush family supported them and gave them a home in the USA. We have been lied to for years about their involvement in NASA, Plum Island and many other orgs. Now their wishes are our legislation. Paul may have ties, but the Nazi's have been playing in our yard a long time and that is a truth we all need to wake up to before we end up in camps.
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I posted this link on twitter and my fb page :-)!
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From the Examiner article: "we [also] found a disturbingly high amount of members who are also involved in campaigning for Ron Paul. According to these messages, Ron Paul has regularly met with many A3P members, even engaging in conference calls with their board of directors."
Oopsy, RP is falling down the rabbit hole. It's past time for the paulomatons to realize they are everything they accuse the obamabots of being. Wake up guys, you don't want to look any worse than you already do ...Pwr 2 Anonymous! LIBERAL lobotomies for Ron Paul and his paulomatons!
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wolfess:
"According to these messages,"
Where are these message so we can read them?
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Thanks Sandy, but this is just a forum talking about Ron Paul, just like hundreds of other forums out there.
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maasanova:
Jebus Christ man, didn't you even read the whole article that you are responsible for posting? I wrote: From the Examiner article ... the sentences in quotation marks are from the article that the EXAMINER printed -- the sentences in quotes are what Anonymous wrote.
Pwr 2 Anonymous! LIBERAL lobotomies for Ron Paul and his paulomatons!
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wolfess:
"didn't you even read the whole article that you are responsible for posting"
I didn't post any article, and I've found nothing in that article, nor the one that Sandy Berman linked to that suggests that members of this group are working for Ron Paul. That's why I challenged you to support the claim and post the messages.
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This kind of reminds me about the Facebook plan for people showing up at the primaries pretending to be Ron Paul supporters while dressed as KKK members.
http://theintelhub.com/2012/01/17/false-flag-dirty-tricks-against-ron-paul-campa...
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maasanova:
and the tin foil hat element is now inolved.
ill give ya credit, you made it like 4 comments without defaulting to the usual crazy assumptive reasoning - 4 months ago
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Why don't you just post the e-mails so we can see for ourselves?
If there was anything to this post, "Michael Stone" would have stated the "proof" in this article and shown us the e-mails linking this non-story to Ron Paul, but just like everything else that unimatirx0 posts about Ron Paul, it's bullshit.
And "Anonymous" is bullshit too, just like unamed sources. They are not credible as they could be anyone, including governent spooks, which is what I suspect they are.
Gay marriage, pro-illegal immigration, hatred of Christianity and hyperventilating about racists and white supremacists are anti-fascist Communist issues, not Ron Paul issues.
Ron Paul's issues are war and the economy, which of course the anti-fascists could care less about.
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maasanova:
If you think that the war and the economy are the only two things on Paul's plate, you're in for a very rude awakening.
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This revelation should only enhance Ron's status as a member in good standing of TODAY'S Republican Party.
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This is so unlike Anonymous... They support free speech, which is why most 'anti-nazi' ops fail hard. In this case, the anons involved are violating the primary principle behind anonymous. These individuals are fools to think this makes anonymous better or a more respectable idea. Revealing docs and corruption: good. Violating peoples rights and freedoms: bad.
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Buddha2112:
Exposing Nazi scum - Good.
No rights, no freedoms, were violated. Documents were released linking Paul and his supporters to Nazi scum.
Why do you continue to defend Paul? Even if he is not a racist, which I doubt, he clearly does not mind getting into bed with racists.
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Buddha2112:
That is a major cop out Buddha. He's been exposed. Good.
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Buddha2112:
Actually, this is just like Anonymous. Anonymous are criminals who engage in the criminal activity of hacking websites and publishing people's private data on the internet.
Anti-fascists are criminals too. There is actually a video of these anti-fascist scumbags actually destroying the home of a "white supremacist," breaking his windows and trashing the place. I wish I could find it now but I cannot.
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Buddha2112:
It's because it wasn't anonymous . Look at the modus operandi.
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Dagum:
I suppose thats a way to look at it. I'm glad we got downvoted for speaking truth.
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ZiggyStrange:
He has been exposed of what? Gimme the docs, please, be specific about what's being exposed here. If you're going by hearsay then that's not exposure, that's lies.
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unimatrix0:
So now we're in the business of 'exposing' people because we disagree with them? There is no history of violence being exposed, no racist policy, no one being subjugated, except for Paul here. Defacing a website is a violation of free speech, trying to paint someone a certain color (LOL) is slander.
Paul is not racist, hasn't acted racist and has far more evidence for being for racial equality, especially in treatment under the law... He doesn't get in bed with racists either, though he does take time to talk to all of his supporters. Even racists like the idea of freedom, even though it's total perversion of their racism. You need evidence to substantiate your claim that talking to a racist, for whatever reason, is bad.
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Buddha2112:
What size are your boots? Amigo. I don't need no stinking papers!
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Buddha2112:
It's a paraphrase from a movie Einstein. I did not mention your body parts, if you don't get it no amount of explanation will suffice but it does give the collective some clues as to your IQ.
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ZiggyStrange:
So you use an obscure quote in reference to nothing... That says more about your IQ.
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Buddha2112:
Golly gee! You are a great person to debate.
1. It's anything but obscure.
2. It's on topic.
3. Your lack of preparation should not be a hindrance to my response.Keep at it. So far you are proving to be better for my mood than than a joint.
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Dagum:
modus operandi?
look at masaanovas postings, and the position he is taking here.
more offended at anonymous than nazism.
modus operandi in full swing here - 4 months ago
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Buddha2112:
Or for being an idiot.
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I do not support Mr Paul's campaign, but I have felt all along he was getting a raw deal from the media and pundits.
But there is SO much smoke billowing up from Mr Paul around this particular issue, chances seem to be increasing exponentially there is fire.
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chew_chew