The God Code
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nanac
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This is a very captivating video.
Thank you for posting it. - 4 months ago
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nanac
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artemis6
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So , those people that are starving to death have created their reality by NOT giving enough food away ? Oh , this guy is gonna make big bucks and get on Oprah .... When people suffer it just because they have not been feeling the correct emotions , and that absolves US of any guilt ... So OUR drones and wars are not the real culprits here ... our OIL consumption is not really the problem .... ALL we have to do is FEEL the right things and we will be OK ! Isn't that special ? The rest of what he says is simply stating the OBVIOUS . I am glad he finally discovered it .
- 4 months ago
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artemis6
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coolplanet
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artemis6:
I feel the same way when people say "You create your own reality." But that's not what Braden said if you listen closer. I got that we have all created this reality, which we have.
- 4 months ago
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coolplanet
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artemis6
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coolplanet:
What he seems to be saying to me , is that we must simply feel peace , and all will be well . Absurd .
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artemis6
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Vierotchka
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artemis6:
You didn't understand him at all.
- 4 months ago
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Vierotchka
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coolplanet
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9kQBAH1nK4&feature=email
Howard Martin | Engaging the Intelligence of the Heart
Here's another inspiring talk from TEDx.
- 4 months ago
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coolplanet
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coolplanet
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Simply superb! I agree with every word.
I've seen Braden speak before and he is the real deal.
I'm especially interested in the Earth Pulse. This could explain my high blood pressure!
Added to and featured in Quetzalcoatl & Tezcatlipoca. ^^^^^ - 4 months ago
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coolplanet
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WalmartRamen
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But really I have to say it. This is not meant as take it as BS.
It's just you need to go with the facts. It's hard to tell what is
disinformation from fact.
That is a road to go down, to find out your self.
You seen it with your own eyes kind of stuff.
He hits the mark on other parts. But not in the light of Science.
Science is only 1% of the pie. There is more to the pie anyway!
As in the words of Billy Connolly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9Q1iAVcp5I( http://www.energygrid.com/science/2004/03ap-godcode.html )
The holes in his theory are very easy to spot and as wide as the Grand Canyon. Braden links the elements hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen and carbon to the Hebrew Alphabet with "atomic mass". But the respective atomic masses of these elements, which he gives as 1, 5, 6 and 3, are actually 1, 14, 16 and 12. To make the evidence fit, he has resorted to a numerological trick: 14 becomes 1 + 4 = 5; 16 becomes… well 6 (it does have 6 valence electrons though!); and 12 becomes 1 + 2 = 3. Also, the 1st letter of the Hebrew Alphabet is actually alep. Yod, the Y in his YH VG translation, is Hebrew letter number 10. But Braden justifies calling 10 a 1 because 10 = 1 + 0 = 1.
The problem with this sort of fiddling, to get the evidence to fit the theory, is that it invalidates the "statistician's probability" above. If unscientifically adding numbers together is okay, which he has done with nearly all his "evidence", then the following must be valid: nitrogen, with atomic mass 14, could equally pertain to Hebrew letter 14 (1 + 4 =5), or even letter 15 by just getting rid of the 1 as he did with oxygen; oxygen, with atomic mass 16, could also be Hebrew letter 15 (5+1=6) or Hebrew letter 16; and carbon with atomic mass 12, could also be Hebrew letter 12 or even 21 (2 + 1 =3). The link between these "alphabets" now seems more tenuous, and the 1 in 234,256 statistic starts to look a bit optimistic.
But if the link is valid, as he says it is, then it must be valid both ways. So Y, the tenth letter of the Hebrew alphabet, could be relating to neon which has atomic mass 10 or manganese with atomic mass 55 (5+5) or silicon with atomic mass 28 (2+8) or fluoride with atomic mass 18 (1+8) or even radium with atomic mass 226 (2+2+6). And that is just one letter and just some of the transitional elements. Try doing it with the other three letters and you come up with loads of other elements. Also, why put the elements in the particular order to give YV VG? The "introduction to our genetic code" could just as well have been YG VH (which, as any linguist from Los Angeles will tell you, means "Yo, Gregg Vas Here"). There is HUGE room here to cook the facts, which is exactly what Braden seems to have done.
So his revelation is is just a clever numerological trick that is faintly entertaining. 4 letters? Big deal! But to base a whole scientific theory on such contrivance is pure fantasy. Braden may well be right in that the DNA is a message from our creator, and it is entirely possible it is related to ancient alphabets — who knows — but the way that he has tried to justify this with very selective and subjective "evidence" with just a 4 letter "fit" is nothing short of astonishing. And the fact that his book is selling so well is a testimony to the credulity and scientific illiteracy of the New Age community (although it has no doubt also sold on the strength of his previous work).
But how does he cover up the lack of scientific or logical justification for his assertion of DNA being a transcript of the Hebrew alphabet? It was simple: he continually played the "I don't have the time to go into all the science" card whilst rushing through a padded out explanation of his theory in 30 minutes. The truth is that one and a half hours was way too long for him to present his theory, let alone 30 minutes (5 minutes on a Post-It note would have sufficed - seriously). So what does he do to fill the time? He shows two "touchy feely" videos which, although great watching (no words, just music to pictures of people of different religions and pictures of people's faces), have little relevance to this sort of lecture except as a time filler and to trigger in his audience sentiments that he feels his theory deserves. Braden wasn't in a rush, he was actually desperate to fill up the time slot! His theory is so weakly supported that, although he was forced to pad it out ad nauseam to fill up time and to make it seem a substantial theory, he was also forced to rush through the little he had.
His actual lecture, outside the videos, is supported by a slick Power Point presentation, and mixes genuine science with pseudoscience in a way in which the authority of the former all too easily rubs off on the latter. This is deceptive to the non-scientific and, I am afraid, intellectually dishonest (if he is indeed a genuine scientist he must realize what he is doing). I had the distinct impression during this lecture that I was in the presence of a preacher, and not a scientist or even a spiritual teacher. "Am I going to fast?" he would continually ask, to which I would mentally reply, "Yes you are Gregg, but if you go any slower the audience will see how contrived and vacuous your theory really is."
So what has happened to Gregg Braden? Why is he now so firmly on the pseudoscience track? His sentiments are admirable: he wants the whole world to be as One and for humanity to forget its differences and live in peace. We all want this. But in his effort to get across this very valid message and goal, Braden tries to justify it with numerology (and even then the "evidence" doesn't quite fit), which he parades as frontier science. In the process of this scientific charade, he not only damages his own former works, but also the credibility of genuine frontier science so excellently reported by authors such as Lynne McTaggart, Rupert Sheldrake and Michael Talbot, who have a genuine understanding of what science is and what it can and cannot justify.
Braden seems confused on this issue, but believing him to be sincere, I can only conclude that he can't really be a scientist. It would be better for him to keep entirely away from science and just speak about prayer, which he is excellent at, as evidenced by his book, The Isaiah Effect. But Braden seems caught up in the role of a scientific New Age prophet, and he is now compelled to dredge up pseudoscience if no real science is there to back up his claims. In The God Code, I feel he has jumped on the "Bible Code" bandwagon, and in the process has morphed from scientist to preacher
- 4 months ago
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WalmartRamen
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WalmartRamen:
regardless of how he got there it is intuitively correct...we all learn through our own experiences and he does a good job of sharing what should be understood as common knowledge...after saying that scrutiny is always an appreciated part of understanding as well and must be also accepted from every perspective
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circlesquared
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nikonwilly
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WalmartRamen:
Interesting and thanks you for these points.
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nikonwilly
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WalmartRamen:
Thanks you for that effort. You are entirely correct. This stuff is entertaining but don't take it beyond that.
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rerushg
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artemis6
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WalmartRamen:
I have heard this "theory" before , it has been floating around for years , and now has a publicist . Sandscrit IS the great and most ancient spiritual language , as any real expert non zealot in the field , even Joseph Campbell taught so in his classes . This man is NO scientist . This is a good way for the Abrahamic religions to gain a new zealothold on peoples mentality . How does religion stop people from killing each other ? Has it ever ?
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artemis6
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artemis6:
struck me as more about spirituality than religion...the combining of Heaven and Earth...squaring the circle...awakening
definitely a touch of unnecessary showboat, but the ideas just feel right
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WalmartRamen
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artemis6:
That is true. "How does religion stop people from killing each other." But there are things above religion. Being from the same maker, who ever you call him, her or it.
"Islam and Christianity The Koran vs. The Bible"
( http://www.dianedew.com/islam.htm )Like on the video on "2 Mysteries of Life.flv" We cant grow if there is such poverty.
We cant fight a war against our selves!
( http://home.dbdbdugbug.operaunite.com/FLV_Files/shared/Where-All-the-Same )More & more people are seeing this & that is what will bring on the change.
Like on the video "4 Elders Speak.flv"It will get there!
Kind of like ZEN. "Go with the flow & let it's power be yours."
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK_4Z5DZcNM )
Like the way I shop sometimes. I can't go down the aisle it's blocked by
standing people. So I go around it. Like a leaf on the water...
There is no point to that, but overall it helps & life is happier in the end!***Not to be taken as, food stamps, like a leaf on the water, just float on leaf & let it's power be yours as you flow with the food stamps, doing nothing.
Your going over Niagara falls, get off the leaf!
Now watch the ZEN video again, it makes a whole new point!
There is your ZEN for the day! - 4 months ago
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WalmartRamen
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artemis6
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circlesquared:
They feel right to you , but oppressive to me . I want nothing to do with an ideology like this . It is an excuse not to get out and protest , is tranquilizing to the masses so the revolution will not come . Religion is the opiate . I do love and serve all life and creation . I committed to this very early in life . WHY must you god worshipers put god logo/stamp on to DNA ? What about RNA , anyway ? Why must you have a deity at all ? Is not the earth enough ? The Cosmos ? I do not label your cells with my dogma . To me you were sacred WITHOUT the label . But only NOW am i sacred to you ! Life was not good enough , until this money maker explained it ALL ! I am glad for you , that you are happy . Excuse the contempt , as i take offense at the insult i have been dealt . It looks to me as if this person is taking hyjacking the obvious to serve dogma . If this is what you call illumination , to me it looks like a bad second hand version .
- 4 months ago
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artemis6
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WalmartRamen:
So , the Maker is a him , to you . I reject all abrahamic religions and dogma . All Top Down power structures are destructive to an individual mentality and publicly . God Is the top of a pyramid . A fascist power structure figurehead , leading to fascist mentality . Or have you not noticed the right wing lately ? It evolves like that always .... As above so below and so within !
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artemis6
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artemis6
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circlesquared:
Public spirituality is merely religion . Spirituality is personal . An authentic connection with the divine . An experience of the sacred .
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artemis6
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WalmartRamen:
I am a huge fan of Rupert Sheldrakes' research , and was terribly dismayed at how such meticulous theories were utterly twisted ... to a clear purpose they DO NOT suggest at all !
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artemis6
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artemis6
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circlesquared:
It IS common knowledge and has been for ages , except for the branding of god on all living things .... Something he just made up to help god worshiper jump on the band wagon ... Non god worshiper have known all life was sacred from the beginning .
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artemis6
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WalmartRamen
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artemis6:
There does need to be protest, to make life better. Like the leaf going over Niagara falls.
Im not saying to let it go & not protest. As they cant see to forest for the trees, we need to be as one. Because the Republicans, want to cut down the trees & make a parking lot, to a minimum wage place. Zen is nature, not a parking lot.
You got to have your Spirituality but know others have about the same you do, just the names has changed, the story is different. But sill the same.
The book of the dead is related to living, in the afterlife, but living.It's about living & we all live together. Treat your brother, sister right!
Spirituality is not related to fear. It's just seeing something that is bigger
than you are, knowing there is something big
& how small we seem to it & how awesome it is!
Like that Billy Connolly video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9Q1iAVcp5I - 4 months ago
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WalmartRamen
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artemis6
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circlesquared:
it struck me as a way of stamping GOD on every piece of living real estate ...
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artemis6
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WalmartRamen
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Kind of out there but, for me personalty...
In the bible we where made in the Image of God. As in like God like powers also?
You may know about the stories about Atomic warfare in ancient India.
( http://home.dbdbdugbug.operaunite.com/2012_FLV/shared/Atomic-India )
2 Aliens types had a atomic war, while humans where watching in India.
Also there is a belief what we have primeval mind power, that the cave man could control the weather with his mind. There was a Youtube video of a guy turning a cloud into a cube shaped cloud with his mind.So I put it as we had the power to stop the war. And the 2 Aliens types found out we are bigger than they are, we have Image of God power.
They are scared of us as a uniting force, because of our power together.What he is saying on the video, he is using parts from, Terence McKenna.
And others. ( http://home.dbdbdugbug.operaunite.com/2012_FLV/shared/Time_Wave_Zero ) Look up his videos on Youtube! - 4 months ago
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WalmartRamen
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KB723
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Outstanding Post Vierotchka, very informative, I actually saw that there is a community there, I am thinking of joining, Thanks for this Post!!! =)
- 4 months ago
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KB723
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remanns
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Enjoyed that.
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remanns
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remanns
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The magnetic flips are weird.
p.s. CROM IS COMING ! ( final answer - the days of trampled enemies and lamenting women is at hand ! Don't forget to bring your broadsword. )
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remanns
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Ambill94
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Thanks...
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Ambill94
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deane
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Extremely fascinating. Greg Braden explains the complexity of what he has experienced, learned, and I found it very informative.
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deane
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circlesquared
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gives your body is your temple a bit of validation
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circlesquared
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artemis6
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circlesquared:
Why was it NOT valid before ? Is bearing the energy of your existence not enough to make it worthy of such respect to you ?
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artemis6
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artemis6:
not at all just pointing out recurring thought...wouldn't think you'd need to ask me that, figure you already know my answers to your questions
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circlesquared
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circlesquared
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next to Kelly_Balthrop's post about the Venus Project this is one of the most important posts on this forum...repost V so it can be shared again and again and again.
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circlesquared
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circlesquared
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this is so right it is obvious...fascinating yes, understanding with out a doubt
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The_Wanderer_Kansas
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I have had many long nights considering these types of theories, and most have some grain(s) of wisdom embedded deep within.
I agree that our externalized selves (what we broadcast about ourselves) has a strong impact on the world and people that surround us. This is as simple as many old proverbs make it out to be, "Hate begets Hate, Love begets Love" and other similar sayings. The more we externalize negative thoughts and energies, the more we fuel these same negatives in others, and the inverse of that is true also. I do not however subscribe to the theory that there is some untenable "energy" that permeates us all in this sort of ethereal fashion.
Conversely I feel that our internalized selves (what we hide within ourselves) can be vastely more damaging. If you have intolerant or malignant feelings and thoughts that you do not address or release, it eats away at what can only be described as your "soul" much like a cancer, and as the cancer grows the internalized negativity begins to expand exponentially, the negative creates the process, the process increases the negative, the increased negative accelerated the process... and a viscious circle ensues. In our society we are at a difficult spot in this dealing with this problem as most people know these feelings inside of them are inappropriate or unacceptable to society as a whole and are now in fear of addressing their issues and being ostracized, imprisoned, or worse.
As far as all humans (or even life) on this planet being "connected" via "energies" encouraged by a "god gene" is almost rubbish, almost. We have the ability to connect with each other, but the only people who are actually connected are those that choose to be, but this is still just a more localized effect (family, organizations, small communities, and religious "parishes" are good examples) then a global condition. Could we be more connected then we are now in general? I believe so, but it would only take place through CHOSEN actions to do so. The problem here is the "fracturing" of our connections into groups of like minded individuals, this is the sort of connectivity that has lead to things like the American Civil Rights Movement, Nazi-ism, and the effects of "mob mentality". Some good, some bad, both reaching to the farthest possible stretches of the spectrum.
We are approaching geological changes that are unprecedented in modern times, and the potential influence from these changes on us could be as amazing as this man says and connect us, strenghten and test us all in a sublimely uplifting way...however...the opposite could just as easily be the case, and the changes will lead us deeper into the dark recesses of intolerance and anger that DO exist in each and everyone of us.
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The_Wanderer_Kansas
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The_Wanderer_Kansas:
Very insightful. I agree with you. Now is the time to decide what we want to make of this earth and civilization. We can move forward and improve our lives or we can move backward and regress.
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sugarmountian
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Amazing, thats all I can come up with.Best post I've seen in a long while! Thank you Vierotchka! I can't wait to read other peoples thoughts on this. Maybe when the magnetic fields shift, bombs and missiles won't work. We can only hope.
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sugarmountian:
we can all hope regardless, but we have even more than hope to offer
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circlesquared
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Anonmaly
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Damn hippies... New-Agers, and even the Christians with their "Jesus will be back tomorrow" shit.....
All get on my FUCKING nerves..... And all to often it seems this totally false sense of unity and "everything is coming together" mentality is delusional if not out-right mentally ill...
The world is going to hell in a hand-basket, look around star gazers, there's no savior coming for the one or two decent sane people left, and there damn sure isn't going to be some global unity movement, that can put and end to the end we're putting to human existence....
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Anonmaly:
My, my, you obviously have not watched the video at all!
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Anonmaly:
@Anomoly..
I think the problem is that people are more than willing to have you suffer their beliefs; regardless of yours or your lack thereof! - 4 months ago
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Anonmaly:
watch the video...you know this to be the case
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Anonmaly:
Damn jump to conclusions, did not comprehend or take the time to watch the video, too focused on one subject of their own, no respect for the unknown, no respect for the complexity of their own DNA people. Damn!
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Vierotchka:
I watched it , and found it offensive . We need to get out and DO something to change the way things are . Sitting home meditating will not work , magical thinking " God Eternal In The Body ? Will that bring world peace , really ? I am quite surprised ! It WILL make us easier to dominate . Easier to accept suffering because it is our own fault . It is hard to be "peace" when some people are torturing you . The torturers will NOT just walk away and set you free . The Dali Lama would not have had to run for his life .... ever !
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artemis6
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artemis6:
I don't think you understood him at all.
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Vierotchka:
I think you do not understand , that god is the top of a fascist power structure . That mentality starts within , and manifests without . Anything with a figurehead does this . Can't have it both ways . If god is involved it is manipulative dogma with a single true purpose . Unequal power . Much of it is commonly known and i agree with , at the end is gets twisted to the real purpose ... to serve whoever has the monopoly on god , that his messengers will tell us what to do ... that the masses will be peaceful and obedient .
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artemis6:
The God of religions, yes - but that doesn't mean there is no God, nor that what he talks about is wrong or false. You seem to confuse religion and spirituality, and what he talks about is deeply spiritual and absolutely not religious.
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Vierotchka
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Vierotchka:
God , is a human creation , that is first seen in religion . For authentic spirituality you must go back farther ... Life is what i serve . The experience of the divine cannot be authentic and have an interpreter or go between . You are One with All , or you aren't . You are cut off from the garden of eden . If you leave , it is because you listened to god , when he told you to go . Separation is an illusion , god is a delusion . have you not understood the language of another species ? Plants ? There is no god . it is a wedge issue of the highest order . The very ancient religion knew that . The great mother earth , she exists . The sun too The moon . These are all real things . The cosmos . What need have i of faith , when i have EXPERIENCE ? The magic of life i see in all things , it is the concept of a man in the sky that is floating around somewhere , that allows evil to happen , that is so sullying to the beauty of all i do experience . If we eliminated this concept , like children eventually rule out Santa , we would all be better off . We would take responsibility for our own actions and our own world . Instead of waiting around for christmas AFTER we die ! Heaven , is right here , and men do not SEE it . They choose not to because they are waiting for god to take them home to his perfect fascist kingdom . No it is right here , and now , it is MORE than emotions . Love is a Behavior . Peace is a behavior . Get out and protest !
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artemis6
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Vierotchka
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artemis6:
That is your set of beliefs, that's all, and you are still equating God with religions and what they claim.
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Vierotchka
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Vierotchka:
The invention of god is where humanity went wrong , this is just another way to push YOUR deity on ME , with ANOTHER book . Once a "spirituality is written down , it dies . Forever after indoctrination must start in childhood , for authentic EXPERIENCE is no longer valid in it , only the book and dogma withing the sacred text .
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artemis6
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Vierotchka:
Why must the energy of life have a human personage ?
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artemis6
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artemis6:
Firstly, I am not pushing anything nor any book on you. I am basing all my understandings on personal experiences, not on any indoctrination whatsoever. Spirituality is not doctrinaire.
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Vierotchka
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artemis6:
Who said it has a human personage? It permeates humans, though, in case you didn't notice.
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Vierotchka
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artemis6:
An excerpt of Native American Chief Seattle’s letter to then-President Franklin Pierce:
“This we know, the Earth does not belong to man, man belongs to the Earth. All things are connected like the blood that unites us all. Man did not weave the web of life, he is merely a strand in it. What ever he does to the web, he does to himself.”
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Vierotchka
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Vierotchka:
I have the speech . I am also in possession of Dr. Sheldrakes books . I agree with them both . There is no mention of GOD in either . A web of life , yes . The earth , yes . connection through attachment , also yes . Are we all not one ? Of course we are , this is KNOWN . As the poet Rumi says " Inside the great mystery that is , we don't really own anything " It seems the height of arrogance to identify the supreme being as a humanoid personality as we do , And a male . What if the universe created itself and the planets and stars have consciousness ? There is so much we do not know and cannot understand , possessing it through the cunning use of labels , is highly premature . In this culture , god is a brand name for organized christian power structures . I suppose , if he had chosen a different letter , it would be " Allah , eternal in the body " instead of God . Jehovah , Zeus , Apollo , Zarathustra . Brand names only . All of existence is beyond names and our feeble minded concepts . Brand names are for marketing . If you have the experience already , why buy ? This man is re branding what the mystic poets gave away for free . If any good comes of him ( and i hope it does ) , it will be purely by the determination the seeker that stumbles upon him has for authentic experience . He reeks of dishonesty . It seems to me a spirit trap , that will cut you off from your own life . I suspect many will flock to him and find refuge in his teachings . Refuge from a reality too overwhelming for them .
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artemis6
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artemis6:
Interesting that you should quote Rumi who was a devout Sufi and constantly referred to God. Oh, and Zarathustra was not a god but a prophet. As for the rest, that is only your fear talking and your own personal labeling, and what you describe is just another definition of God. As for the rest of your post, it only reflects your fears and insecurities.
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Vierotchka
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Vierotchka
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artemis6:
Part 1
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Vierotchka
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Vierotchka
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artemis6:
Part two
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Vierotchka
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Vierotchka
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artemis6:
Part three
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Vierotchka
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Vierotchka
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artemis6:
Part four
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Vierotchka
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Vierotchka
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artemis6:
Part five
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Vierotchka
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Vierotchka
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artemis6:
Part six
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Vierotchka
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Vierotchka:
My fears and insecurities ? And it has nothing to do with the long history of atrocities committed in the name of god , by people who will not allow any other belief ? It has nothing to do with the believers who stand by and do nothing while extreme forms of their religion infect the world with torturers and zealots who claim to serve god ? The bible and the gun were the left and right hands of imperialism all over the globe , and you still TRUST "god" ?! What does it take for a name or symbol to be forever sullied ... ? How much suffering ? How much bigotry ? You are a more forgiving person than i .
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artemis6:
All that is totally unrelated to the original video to which I posted a link, and by no means are all religions the way you describe them. Don't bring me into your argument either, where did I say that I trust "god", in your opinion which god would that be? I know many Christians, Jews and Muslims who serve the God they ascribe to without all that negativity you write about, who are good people doing a great deal of good. You seem to be throwing out the baby with the bath water, broad-brushing all believers in their respective religions and God along with the bigots, extremists and zealots.
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Vierotchka
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Click on the link to watch the video.
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Vierotchka:
thank you
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circlesquared
