The Candidate of 'No': Legislation Ron Paul Has Voted Against

If he retires, he can come live on my farm. I can pay him by feeding him gruel and making a bed of hay for him in the barn. Isn't that the free market system?

Good one Joe. I see you will take real good care of him. =)

I would have him pay for the bed of hay......

Under the bed of hay would be a nice big stinking pile of manure....... some of the same stuff he's been spreading around.

How about an ounce of gold per week?

LMAO!

That'd be more worth more than the funny money Bernanke is printing these days.

I actually wouldn't take his money or his gold. Paul isn't good enough to sleep in my barn. And since there won't be any laws against discrimination, he can lay his bony ass someplace else.

No one is advocating discrimination against you, certainly not Dr. Paul. Who has been the biggest champions of gay marriage, the states or the federal government? Who has been the biggest champions of medical marijuana, the states or the federal government? Who is the only Presidential candidate that would end the war on drugs and get rid of the Patriot act? Dr. Paul is the only candidate that does not want to discriminate against you.

No matter how many times I and other posters list all of Ron Paul's actions and comments against gay people , you Paulbots just don't listen. I'm done posting all the facts since you guys don't listen. But I can assure you Ron Paul is NO friend of the gay community. His hands off bullshit does not help us, not one bit.

He is for State's rights. Has the Federal government done anything to further gay marriage? Even Obama says he is against it. So who has legalized gay marriage? The States. So you take your pick.

Your first sentence is EXACTLY the reason I despise Ron Paul. Leave everything to the states. Do you really believe that states from Montana down to Texas and from there going east up to Virginia that any of those states is ever going to approve of gay marriage when 98% will not even approve equal rights in employment?
Obama has refused to defend the Defense of Marriage Act in the courts and has declared it unconstitutional. He also supports the Marriage Equality Act introduced by Diane Feinstein in The Senate. He ended Don't Ask Don't Tell and has enacted 36 different statutes and executive orders for the benefit of the gay community. There is no other president in history who can compete with his record of enforcing rights for the gay community--not one.
All Paul does is say leave everything to the states where we would be denied everything we have been working for since the Stonewall Rebellion in 1969. His laizze faire attitude of marriage not even being a legal entity would deny us the same benefits as heterosexual couples have in terms of filing joint taxes, the ability to adopt, receive our partners health benefits, receive our partner's SS benefits if the pass away and so many other advantages that straight people have that a way too numerous to mention. We have had to spend a fortune in legal bills to insure our estates and property go to each other and not some grubby undeserving realtive who has no right to it but would get it anyway just because they are related by blood. Whereas your wife automatically gets her inheritance.
Can you even imagine being banned from your wife's hospital room because your not a blood relative, denied the ability to make health care decisions? Of course you can't, but we have to, unless we spend another arm and a leg to protect our legal rights, which we have had to do. You just don't get it John, you just don't get it.

If we never had Bush for 8 long years, we wouldn't be $15 trillion in debt.

I won't argue that. I didn't vote for him either.

Now see, it's like you do not give the American people credit for anything. Do you really thing America would fall apart if we didn't have a huge federal government monitoring our lives and massive federal bureaucracies in place wasting our tax dollars? I give the people more credit than you do.

There is no one monitoring my life except stinking marketers, and I've put a stop to that.
Mr. Paul would not trim government , he would dismantle it. He's not getting his grubby, Alzheimer ridden paws on my Social Security and Medicare--I earned every penny of it over the years-- and I'll slap his crazy ass silly if he tries to come anywhere near either one of them.

If you think that is the only people monitoring your life, you are sadly deluded? Have you heard of The Patriot Act, the IRS, the TSA, The Department of Homeland Security was set up for one purpose, to monitor your life. The DEA, the ATF, the FBI, the NSA, the CIA, the Secret Service. you get on one of their databases you're tracked forever. There is an entire bureaucracy to watch what you and I say to each other over the internet, to see where we make bank transactions and to who, every part of you life is monitored, whether you want to believe it or not. And our tax dollars are paying for it. Is that what you want?

Paranoia , pure and simple. I have nothing to hide, I am doing nothing wrong. I think you need to download Rockwell's "Somebody's Watching Me."

He's reaching a bit aint he?! lol

You sound like a George Bush neocon now, that's how they justified the Patriot act in the first place.

You a closet neocon too?

No, I live in the real world , not a paranoid fantasy land where the government's out to get me. They take my taxes and they leave me alone. And if I would need help, like Social security, Medicare, unemployment insurance, worker's comp, food assistance, filling the potholes in my road, keeping my house from burning down, ambulances and police, cleaning up from a hurricane, flood or earthquake , they are there for me. All of which would be undermined by that senile old fart Ron Paul. Our taxes are lower than they've been since 1958--stop bitching.

Just a bit.

They leave you alone? Have you been in an airport lately? Or the DMV? Never mind that, they take your money that you worked for, that are the fruits of your labor, that were bourne of your blood, sweat, and tears, to waste in any obscenely frivolous manner that they see fit, and you think they are "leaving you alone"? Damn, man, potholes and ambulances are fine, but they are a pittance of what your tax dollars are being poured down the drain, for nothing.

By Odin's Beard he has me pegged! --sighs--

They don't bother me. I travel all the time, have never had a problem --except with the airline. I don't go the the DMV but once every six years for my Driver's License...use the computer for everything else.
You want even lower taxes and don't want to pay for good services? Move to Mexico and find out what shitty government is really like.

I agree completely.

Voted up.

Thanks, Ziggy.

I think he uses dice. He rolls and if he gets a 7, he votes yes, anything else , he votes no.

Sounds likely.

Cute :-)!

They were quite entertaining though, don'tcha think?

Entertaining and actually quite realistic too :-)! Jackhole, I applaud your creative ingenuity!!!!

Jackhole needs a standing ovation.

Indeed he does!

Sometimes dishonesty comes under the clock of honesty:

Voted YES on banning federal health coverage that includes abortion. (May 2011)
Voted NO on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Jan 2007)
Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
Voted NO on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005)
Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004)
Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortion except to save mother’s life. (Oct 2003)
Voted NO on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research. (Feb 2003)
Voted YES on funding for health providers who don't provide abortion info. (Sep 2002)
Voted YES on banning Family Planning funding in US aid abroad. (May 2001)
Voted NO on federal crime to harm fetus while committing other crimes. (Apr 2001)
Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortions. (Apr 2000)
Voted NO on barring transporting minors to get an abortion. (Jun 1999)
No federal funding of abortion, and pro-life. (Dec 2000)
Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)
Rated 56% by the NRLC, indicating a mixed record on abortion. (Dec 2006)
Bar funding for abortion under federal Obamacare plans. (Jul 2010)
Prohibit federal funding for abortion. (May 2011)
Prohibit federal funding to groups like Planned Parenthood. (Jan 2011)
Report on Medicaid payments to abortion providers. (Apr 20
Voted YES on terminating the Home Affordable mortgage Program. (Mar 2011)
Voted NO on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)
Voted NO on modifying bankruptcy rules to avoid mortgage foreclosures. (Mar 2009)
Voted NO on additional $825 billion for economic recovery package. (Jan 2009)
Voted NO on monitoring TARP funds to ensure more mortgage relief. (Jan 2009)
Voted NO on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler. (Dec 2008)
Voted NO on $60B stimulus package for jobs, infrastructure, & energy. (Sep 2008)
Voted NO on defining "energy emergency" on federal gas prices. (Jun 2008)
Voted YES on restricting bankruptcy rules. (Jan 2004)

Yes, I agree with his stance on the wars and military spending. It's clear what he sees as wasteful are social projects to help people in need. We can eliminate military spending and still back-up these essential services but good ol' boy Paul is about denying the needy. What ghoul can look in the mirror after supporting Ron Paul?

RP," would bring about a much needed change in the way our country does business."
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I understand your viewpoint because I once thought like that. But, Obviously you're not seeing things clearly if you think electing RP alone, could make our "much needed change'. He has not the support of Democrats, and he has not even support of his own Party, as the GOP ignores and denigrates him from that side as much as any other.

Bush barely gets elected by majority consensus, yet when in 'office', powers everything through with the full support of established and entrenched GOP, along with Blue Dog support.

Obama get elected running on 'CHANGE', elected by a huge majority consensus, has full support of Democrat Party, is obstructed by the 'right' at every turn from day one, making real 'change' nearly impossible.

And you actually think RP is gonna get in there and 'change' anything, a new direction all on his own, without the support of either entrenched party? How foolish is that?

If you really want to 'change' anything, first you are going to have to crush the republican Party. (or even the Democrats, but near impossible at the time). If we get the GOP out of the picture, different ideologies and voices, (like Paul's for instance), may stand a chance. Changing 'one representative' will do nothing, you have to change the Paradigm first. It's called patience and strategy.

Excellent!

Wish I could vote that up more than once!

well done.

Bravo!

Amber Alert has ultimately been a waste and only regards a very very small fraction of abductees under the age of 17. Even then, linking the 554 'saved lives' (over 10 years) to the use of the actual system is far fetched... It's more likely the work of law enforcement (for once). It's another money hole, that doesn't do as it promised. On average 2,185 kids are reported missing DAILY. And you're saying a program that finds 0.15 children daily, is worth it? I think it means we have other options to look at that will be FAR more effective and not such a waste of money. Who the fuck reads those signs anyway? 99% of the time they're off.

Worth it if it's your kid who got saved, I would think. Not everything should be boiled down into statistics and cost-effectiveness. If it were my kid missing I would think any and all resources would be welcomed.

That comment is a reflection of your tunnel vision ideology and I reject it on principle alone.

I see those signs and I pay attention.

If it's only one child, then it's worth it. Period.
I need to check your stat numbers, but 554 lives saved is not good in your book?

99%???

Maybe you should read something in these success stories. Tell all of these parents that you would disagree that this is a waste of time and money.

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PageServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US...

Even worse, someone Barfed by the Sofa... =( Maybe they just had enough of Ron Paul???

RACISTS -- uh, that's YOU, ronnie p -- should be forced to hide their racism!

Pwr 2 the liberal 99%! LIBERAL lobotomies for ronnie p and all his paulomatons!

Friendly fire.

And in the morning, people will look at the thread and say ... "Holy cats, what happened here... whatever it was, it's all gone now!"

Hey go to the realm and pick your boxes. Tomorrow is our super Bowl party.

Buffalo wings?

Amongst Friends I assume.... =)

LOL!!!! I know, like what the Hell happened Here!!! =)

You're bringing them, haruko has the Queso.

Troll free.

Na!!! Football is not my Gig, I will be setting up another work bench in my garage tomorrow... Hmmm I am saying New England with three points in the overtime... =)

Matter of fact I have no Clue who is playing tomorrow... =)

Ahhh, what could be better??? =)

Good morning Jack!

I guess I "missed" a party in here last night.
I will go pick my boxes but you are not supposed to have the numbers until AFTER people pick the boxes silly. :-))

Good morning. well get them I'll explain later.

Okie dokie! :-)

THAT'S IT!

And that was scary fast.

Mind if I smash a chair upside your head??? =)

That only makes him angry.

Who??? Hulk Hogan??? =) Ahh you know I was just kidding and trying to fit the Jerry Springer Mold... Sorry PepeLepew, I hope you know I was just Kidding... ;)

Stick around, I'm thinking of throwing a bash like this every Saturday night.

Christ, this was just ... EPIC!

And I missed it. :-(

Yup you got it. We are all lying and you are the only one telling the truth,

Is that what you want to hear? There is a name for that, you know when you think you are the only one that's right, and everyone else is wrong.

Get some advice from someone close.

That's all Pauls got. I guess some people don't mind being dupped by a deranged old man. That old geezer is about one strap away from a permanent stright -jacket.

Don't hold your breath/ It'll be a cold day in hell before I play along in your fantasy.

I never said it was a gov agency, or program. I said if RP were President there would be no ACLU., and I repeat it.

Ron Paul is an insane little moron with delusions of grandeur, and a bunch of Ayn Rand poisoned Zombies all around him waiting to march back to dixie.

As I'm sure the mirror does every time you go by one.
You are the most hateful person here.

☑ jackhole's pick for best use of logic.

I had to, this guy throws more straight lines than a laser.

Vous etes arrives.

Yes has everyone shaking in their boots as you can see.

I know my knees are knocking together...oh, wait , no..I just have to pee.

It has been a very entertaining thread so far.

I know I've been laughing MY ass off.

It was unexpected but it was really funny. It wasn't a toxic thread.
Just the usual then Bam! it was like a skit by Chevy Chase when he trips all over everything and ends up falling down a flight of stairs.

O.K. I see a ,lot of computers, books, electronics. What you want a picture of my living room?

I think you just really hit the nail on the head there...