Buffet Rule Will Go to a Vote
source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/senate-dems-should-force-gop-to-hold-vote...
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Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse is going to introduce legislation to make the Buffet Rule law. The legislation will change income taxes for the top 1% to pay a 30% tax rate on all income if it exceeds $1 million. "It would do this by requiring millionaires to calculate their overall effective tax rate under the regular system — by taking into account all their sources of income and the various rates they are taxed at."
Rather than trying to dismantle all of the deductions and rewrite them for other tax brackets, it just amends what you have to pay in taxes if you make over that $1 million mark from all sources including capital gains. Sen Whitehouse should introduce the same type of legislation for corporations as well.
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kvb1
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The way to end all of this crap on Wall St, is not a transaction tax. It would be better to set up a progressive tax on capital gains based on the time that the instrument was held, including gambling on shorting. Make anything bought and sold within 24 hours taxable at 90%. Drop that rate at a week, a month, 6 months, one year, 3 years, 5 years 7 years, and at 10 years you are tax free.
We make investing for the gamblers still possible, yet we would create a more stable economy for the future.
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kvb1
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I read somewhere that Buffets secretary paid tax at 30%. I don't know if this was federal or combined but if it were federal her taxable (different from total income) income for 2010 would have been somewhere around 200K for married filing joint. Even if she lived in New York state it would have been somewhere in the 7% rate for the state which would be about 137K for taxable income. Not bad for a secretary. These numbers are REALLY broad and not exact but an estimation. I have not seen her return and do not know anything about her tax picture. In any event, this "Buffet Rule" is what happens when a bunch of people who know nothing about a subject get all up in arms about it.
It's my understanding that Buffet has W2 income of about 100K and pays the appropriate federal rate on that income, more than 15%. It would be at the highest rate given his total taxable income or more than his secretary. He has the absolute ability to structure his pay so that his income all comes from W2 earning and none from capital gains which are NOT income tax.
Let's continue to punish the successful. It's a great economic strategy. - 4 months ago
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lesterhalfjr
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I get negatives for suggesting the secretary pay lower taxes. What do liberals have against secretaries?
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lesterhalfjr
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lesterhalfjr:
Dude, this site is retarded sometimes. They probably assumed you meant just lower her wages. Either that or you have stalker-haters on the site... I have about 5 of them.
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Buddha2112
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JanforGore
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So then they'll just find a way to hide their income to avoid the tax or take a small cut in order to keep from paying it. I wish I wasn't so cynical but let's face it this will more than likely not pass or if it does they will find a loophole. Now a financial transactions tax might be a different story. Of course the rest of us would still be paying the same rate so that doesn't really help us does it?
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JanforGore
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JanforGore:
Financial transactions taxes will affect everyone who holds retirement funds regardless of income. This is a bad idea ginned up by some United Nations nut case designed to take the money from the people of this country to enrich the UN coffers.
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kvb1
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Paratus:
WHAT?!?! How does that equate to enrich the UN?
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kvb1
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kvb1:
Research the origin of the Financial Transactions Tax idea.
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EmperorThan
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Here's what's going to happen. It will go for a vote. Republicans will cry, cry, cry complain about class warfare against them will hold the bill hostage into all of their demands are met. Democrats will agree to all their demands then the bill will be killed.
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EmperorThan
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EmperorThan:
I really hope so.
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lesterhalfjr
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why not just lower the secretaries rate?
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lesterhalfjr:
Gee, I don't know... because we have a budget crises that is largely due to tax rates being too low?
Herp derp.
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CreditFigaro:
so spend less
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lesterhalfjr
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lesterhalfjr:
Very good. Spending is why we have a budget crisis NOT due to low tax rates which are really not that low.
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Paratus:
some may think the taxes are too much, some not enough but there IS an awful lot of revenue going in to Washington. Its not like greece where people don't pay taxes as a sport.
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lesterhalfjr:
Yeah I heard that about Greece taxes also. Had to chuckle. Whether or not they are too high or low I guess depends on ones perspective on the subject. Washington certainly does seem to have a lot of bucks flowing to it doesn't it. Makes one wonder what the real issue is.
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hanzdogy
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I don't intend to sound cynical, but I seriously doubt this will pass.
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hanzdogy
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ThirdSection
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This is a good, sensible step in the right direction, so naturally, it will be blocked by the teabag caucus in the House.
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ThirdSection
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ahonnet
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Now all we have to do is get a bunch of people who make more than $1,000,000 per year to vote for this.
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remanns
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Good. +^d
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simplecj
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Hope it passes, this makes sense. My parents didn't like the thought of capital gain taxes going up cause if they sold the house me and my sister were living in they'd have to pay that tax. Under this rule though they and most middle income families can keep the lower tax rate on investments while those making millions will actually have to pay more.
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simplecj
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simplecj:
Have mom and day research the home sales tax provisions. Under most conditions the sale is a non taxable event.
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simplecj
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Unless it wasn't their primary residence for at least the last two years. Way ahead of you. If you sell a house that you haven't been living in it's considered an investment property and you have to pay capital gains taxes on whatever your profit is unless you reinvest it to cancel out the "profit" for that year's taxes.
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simplecj
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simplecj:
Didn't know all the details when I wrote this. Glad to see you are aware. See Publication 523 from the IRS online. There is a Reduced Maximum Exclusion that may work for you along with other criteria based on inability to use the home and work constraints. Perhaps something in there will help. Good luck with this.
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