How's That 'Change' Working Out for You?
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Wall Street is up…the Dow, Nasdaq, and S&P. Unemployment dropped to 8.3%. According to the Mainstream media, Obama, and all liberal and the Washington DC intellectuals who applaud BIG GOVERNMENT, are dancing like fairies in wonderland. Those who have longed for the day America joins the socialist democracies in Europe, can all take a sigh of relief…Obama the Messiah was right. His vision of changing America and his answer to whatever ails America can be solved by the federal government and is working. It is time for all of us to kneel on our blankets and bow toward the White House five times a day!
If all this is true and Obama is truly able to walk on water; that unemployment is really dropping like a sack of manure; that BIG GOVERNMENT is really the answer; and that our Founding Fathers concept with our experiment in free enterprise democracy has finally been dis-proven after creating the greatest nation the world has ever seen, then I must have missed something here.
I have been saying since I can remember that figures make liars out of those with good intentions and fools out of those who believe them. For those who believe the massaged numbers regarding the unemployment…sorry, but you are apparently drinking the Kool Aid.
Total non-farm payroll employment rose by 243,000 in January, and the unemployment rate decreased to 8.3 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Cheers! Let’s all celebrate.
HOWEVER…In the week ending January 28, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial unemployment claims was 367,000, a decrease of 12,000 from the previous week’s revised figure of 379,000. Soon we will also have an influx of 900,000 veterans leaving the military and entering the workforce. Let’s see them cover those numbers up. Oh yeah, they will just be uncounted folks who won’t have jobs, because I don’t believe they will qualify for unemployment insurance.
You were promised change…here’s your change by the numbers:
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Thanks to how the government does its calculations, they can make the numbers infer anything they want. To say the numbers are being “fudged” in Washington, is no stretch of the imagination. Only in Washington can you lower the unemployment rate by increasing the number of those going back to work by 243,000, while at the same time you have an increase in new unemployment claims of 367,000. So the media, without any investigation buy into these glowing reports and believe we’ve made great headway…”unemployment has now dropped to 8.3%”…Right.
How can this be? To get the TRUE PICTURE, you have to look at ALL the numbers:
1.2 million people gave up looking for work in January. These are folks who dropped off the extended unemployment compensation insurance, gave up, or who took a part-time minimal wage job.
Only 12.7 million are now officially unemployed if you listen to the mouthpieces in Washington, but the real number is over 17 million if you calculate back in the 4.7 who have stopped looking since Obama took office. We can’t blame The President for all those as it started before Bush left town, but we certainly shouldn’t be celebrating. As Yogi Berra said, “It ain’t over ’til the fat lady sings”.
Obama is bragging that he added 3.7 million new jobs since the Bush era, but the reality is 4.3 million jobs have simply disappeared from the United States of America since Obama became President. 4.4 million jobs disappeared during the 2007-08 panic. But after Obama took office, an additional 4.3 million jobs disappeared. These were from jobs shipped overseas and in plant closings.
So when Obama says “altogether, we’ve added 3.7 million new jobs over the last 23 months”, he’s not giving you the full story. We are still 5.6 million jobs below where we were at the peak in 2007. Add to that the 4.9 million new jobs that would have had to be created just to soak up new entrants into the workforce, and all told we have a jobs deficit of 10.5 million.
When one adds in the 10.5 million who are working part time but would like to be working full time, we have 28 million who are unemployed or underemployed. As far as the “official” unemployment number goes it is a big fat statistical lie. The number for the real unemployment rate for 2011 was about 22.7%. (if unemployment was done the way Bureau of Labor Statistics did it before 1994) and probably over 19% so far for 2012.
According to the REAL VOICE ON WALL STREET, Investor’s Business Daily:
The president said: “We can’t go back to the policies that led to the recession. And we can’t let Washington stand in the way of our recovery.” And “We can’t go back to the policies that led to the recession”? We are told this is “our recovery”. The cause of the recession was, in fact, housing policies put in place by President Clinton and aggressively supported by Democrats in Congress, including former Sen. Barack Obama. How soon we forget. These were the policies that led to the housing meltdown, the financial crisis and, ultimately, the deep recession we’re still climbing out of, yet Obama’s “blame Bush” theme will be the Democrats’ strategy for the 2012 campaign. So get used to it.
The truth is, by now we should have created millions more jobs than we have. But Obama’s $836 billion stimulus, his botched industry bailouts, his failed “green” energy policies (Solyndra, et.al), his regulatory siege on business, and his disastrous attacks on Wall Street and entrepreneurs have made this the worst recovery in history.
These government “number slingers” are the same bunch that tells you the Consumer Price Index increased 3.0 percent before seasonal adjustment to end 2011. Let’s see… 3% inflation. Do you really believe that? Have you been shopping lately? Have you purchased gasoline or diesel for your vehicle so you could go to work (if you still have a job)? Oh, that’s right. THEY DON’T COUNT GAS AND FOOD IN THE INFLATION RATE! I guess we don’t need food or gasoline.
In most families the women do most of the grocery shopping right? Men usually aren’t always up to current grocery store prices. Next time anyone talks about politics and how things are going, just ask them if they have purchased ten pounds of potatoes this past year, or stopped in at a gas station. In 2009, 10 lbs of potatoes cost about $3.50 in Western Michigan (about $3.00 at Wal-Mart). Today the cost is over $5 any place you want to shop. Gas was $1.79/gal when Obama’s entourage slithered into Washington and today, down at the local discount gas station here in North Carolina, it’s $3.59. Is it any wonder they DON’T CALCULATE FOOD AND GAS INTO THE CPI?
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Paratus
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Not very well but then I don't drink the Kool Aid.
- 4 months ago
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Paratus
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Mitekillem1
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Paratus:
The poison isn't in the liquid, it's in the goblet. ...and you're obviously drinking from the wrong cup.
- 4 months ago
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Mitekillem1
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Paratus
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Mitekillem1:
As an Independent I have no cup. I can only look at what Obummer pours out of his as it is his "change". He leaves a lot to be desired.
- 4 months ago
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Paratus
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Nabe8
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Obama is still my hero.
- 4 months ago
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Nabe8
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Kilnsapper
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Nabe8:
Shoot for higher standards. Real heroes usually sacrifice something, or make the world around us a better place to live. What has Obama really done?
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Kilnsapper
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Paratus
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Nabe8:
Oh man, you can surely do better.
- 4 months ago
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Paratus
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Nabe8
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Paratus:
Really, like who? Who is going to earn your vote for president? The reason that so little was done is not the fault of the president. It's the fault of Republicans. How can you claim that President Obama holds full responsibility for what has gone on in the past three years when Democrats have never gained full control of congress? Are you aware that it takes 60 votes in the senate to pass anything? Are you aware that Republicans have used the filibuster in record-breaking ways?
- 4 months ago
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Nabe8
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Nabe8
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Kilnsapper:
Obama has been off-ing high-profile terrorists. That makes for a better world. He managed to pass some health care reforms, despite the obstructionist/destructionist tactics from the right. He created the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, though Republicans have successfully thwarted it from coming to fruition. We've seen 23 months of consecutive private-sector job growth -- this despite the fact that Republicans failed to pass Obama's America's Job Act. Imagine what this man could have done if we had Republicans working to improve our country instead of letting the country fall to shit so they could blame it on Democrats.
So what's the alternative?
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Nabe8
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Mitekillem1
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Nabe8:
It's no use. You can't use logic or reasoning with Republicans. If they used either, then they wouldn't vote Republican at all. It's been scientifically proven that those with lower IQs gravitate towards "conservative" political ideals, and also racism. Hence this article attacking our current multi-racial president. Had John Kerry, or someone else have won, we wouldn't hear half of the crap or disrespect we've seen from the ignorant right-wingers.
Republicans will die out just like the Neanderthals. - 4 months ago
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Mitekillem1
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Vierotchka
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Kilnsapper:
What has he really done? A great deal. See http://obamaachievements.org/list
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Vierotchka
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Paratus
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Nabe8:
November will be an anyone but Obummer moment for me. He has full responsibility, it's his economy.
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Paratus
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joeredford [removed]
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Considering we were losing 800,000 jobs a month when Obama took office and are now gaining 250,000, and that GPD was down 6% and is now approaching plus 3%, I'd say were are doing pretty well under the circimstances.
Not to mention gay Americans have a REAL champion for our rights in the White House, which we have never, ever had before. Some people's glasses are always half empty ,while other's are always half full. - 4 months ago
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joeredford [removed]
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MSII
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Oh if only the president was the liberal they like to claim he is, oh if only he had brought the sanity and reason of a European style social democracy! But unfortunately it's more of the same laissez-faire filth the wrong-wingers roll around in like pigs in... well you know.
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MSII
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Vierotchka
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Well, it does seem to have worked out for a great many people...
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Vierotchka
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Mitekillem1
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Vierotchka:
This is awesome!
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Mitekillem1
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bailey78
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Vierotchka:
Like I said those that have something to invest can make good. I don't know many that have it to invest
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bailey78
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Swisher
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Massage something other than numbers. Where's your source?
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Swisher
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ZiggyStrange
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Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com Washington Post website: The "not in labor force" did NOT increase by 1,177,000 last month. RATHER, the numbers changed due to the BLS making modifications in its January 2012 numbers based on the 2010 census (the December 2011 numbers were still being made on prior population estimates). Based on the 2010 population controls, the "not in labor force" appeared to have increased by 1.2 million in January 2012 over December 2011, and the working age population appeared to have jumped 1.7 million. However, that is NOT what happened last month - actually the BLS numbers changed because of the BLS using the new population estimate. While the reported number suggests there are about 1.2 million more people out of the labor force than was originally thought, this is only because the working age population is larger than previously estimated.
As the BLS further indicated in its report, when you look at the January 2012 numbers compared to the December 2011, without accounting for the population change (in other words, when doing an apples-to-apples comparison), the "not in labor force" level actually DECLINED in January 2012 from December 2011.
Here is another
No Rick Santelli and Zero Hedge, One Million People Did Not Drop Out of the Labor Force Last Month
By Barry Ritholtz - February 3rd, 2012, 4:15PM
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/02/no-rick-santelli-and-zero-hedge-one-million....
So today following an otherwise pretty darn good jobs report, we get the usual perma-pessimists at Zero Hedge and Rick Santelli over at CNBC proclaiming that the report showed a drop of over 1 million people from the labor force in one month. Of course, as ususal, both Santelli and Zero Hedge have a real reading comprehension problem and completely missed that this million+ people isn’t some new January phenomenon, but a result of the BLS using the 2010 census data to have more accurate data. In other words, the changes in the Household Survey to the various measures had taken place over the years prior to 2010, but for simplicity’s sake, the BLS incorporates these changes into one month (which they clearly point out). The relevant text from the report is below (bold is mine):
“Effective with data for January 2012, updated population estimates which reflect the results of Census2010 have been used in the household survey. Population estimates for the household survey are developed by the U.S. Census Bureau. Each year, the Census Bureau updates the estimates to reflect new information and assumptions about the growth of the population during the decade. The change in population reflected in the new estimates results from the introduction of the Census 2010 count as the new population base, adjustments for net international migration, updated vital statistics and other information, and some methodological changes in the estimation process. The vast majority of the population change, however, is due to the change in base population from Census 2000 to Census 2010.
In accordance with usual practice, BLS will not revise the official household survey estimates for December 2011 and earlier months. To show the impact of the population adjustment, however, differences in selected December 2011 labor force series based on the old and new population estimates are shown in table B.
The adjustment increased the estimated size of the civilian noninstitutional population in December by 1,510,000, the civilian labor force by 258,000, employment by 216,000, unemployment by 42,000, and persons not in the labor force by 1,252,000. Although the total unemployment rate was unaffected, the labor force participation rate and the employment-population ratio were each reduced by 0.3 percentage point. This was because the population increase was primarily among persons 55 and older and, to a lesser degree, persons 16 to 24 years of age. Both these age groups have lower levels of labor force participation than the general population.”
So Rick/Zero Hedge, unless you would like to argue that the population of the United States also grew by 1.5 million in one month (since that is from the exact same report/revision you quoted), I think both of you should retract your extremely misleading statements about those not in the labor force increasing by over a million in January and simply admit that you are either too stupid or too focused on selling a particular world view to read the data correctly.
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ZiggyStrange
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Joeydee44
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So much partisan talking points bullshit here but let's talk about gas prices. Your quote that "gas was $1.79 when Obama's entourage slithered into Washington" is typical misleading republican spin developed by taking a slice of data and extrapolating a theory upon it. Truth is U.S. average gas prices were hovering around the $3.20/gal mark for much of 2007 and 2008, and spiked in the summer of 2008 to $4.12/gal just before the bottom fell out of the stock market. They bottomed out around $1.60/gal in Dec 08 but everyone knew they would come back up to some extent, which they did. When Obama "slithered" into office, gas prices were back up over $2/gal and in the summer the prices spiked (as they always do in the summer to capitalize on summer travel, blame Exxon Mobil et al for that) to about $2.60/gal and remained relatively stable for more than a year--in November of 2010 US Average prices were still about $2.86/gal, but by May of 2011 the price had soared to about $4/gal again. Hmmm. What happened in November of 2010 that suddenly made gas prices soar upwards again? Oh, that's right--a midterm election and a flotilla of Red seaweed washing into the House of Representatives, hell-bent on making the President look bad so that they could regain power at the expense of the economy. So let's call out your little rant for what it really is, part B of the plan to staple the blame of whatever economic foibles still plaguing our county on the back of Obama instead of the do-nothing obstructionist Congress where it belongs.
But hey, don't take MY word for it, you can look up the FACTS for yourself:
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Joeydee44
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WagonMaster
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Pretty damn good for me, but obviously not too good for you. Could be a lot better if we didn't have a whole group of GOP obstructionists trying to screw the pooch. Can't have too much success with that and snarky pissed-off Progressives slamming the Pres every time he doesn't walk on water. Does one actually thing one will fare far better under a Plastic Mitt, aRon Paul or a fat-assed Newt ? I think not.
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WagonMaster
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Anonmaly
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WagonMaster:
Yeah yeah yeah, fuck the "liberal" prohibitionists too....
At least Ron Paul wants to legalize it, unlike that hypocrite in chief...
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Anonmaly
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bailey78
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Well it's working for those that have millions of dollors in their off shore accounts.
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bailey78
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Truthitswhatsfordinner
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bailey78:
Best comment I've read today! Thank you.
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Truthitswhatsfordinner
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MotherForTruth
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Not working out at all.
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MotherForTruth
