Celestial Object Orbiting West To East Then Up Over Hawaii...Thoughts?

down a couple comments I posted the links to the Antarctic cameras and under it the Mauna Kea cameras. There is a bit less to see today at Antarctica due to the weather but it is still there briefly in the beginning of the videos at Neumayer. The Hawaii cams are real time and you'll have to wait for it not to be dark there...it rises out of the South at 7 their time.

I see nothing but the sunrise in (roughly) frames 20-30. ??

Not the sun. It is moving from W to E and if the storm didn't blow in you would be able to see the difference in lighting when the sun comes up in the East...hard to see today, but there are two light sources. Keep and eye on the Hawaii cams as the day progresses...the "sun" comes up out of the South as well as rises in the East at the same time.

Haven't seen Mauna Kea yet. What I see at Neumayer is sunrise.
Imagine that you are standing at the South Pole. Now imagine there is an observer straight overhead and fixed in the celestial sphere. From that perspective YOU and the earth are rotating CLOCKWISE. The sun is also fixed on the celestial sphere. So YOU see the sun rise on your right and progress to your left.
Note that close to the South Pole compass directions have little meaning. At the Pole itself the only direction possible is North.

find it interesting that the of all the cameras out there catching images of the "sun" the only ones I have seen with that dark area are the ones facing South in Antarctica and the one camera facing South at Hawaii...I understand the different relation to N,S,E,W down there but as I said before...the sun rises after this object goes past from the East...it is a much different intensity and color.

The black spot is the sun itself being blacked out by the digital camera. Excessive brightness is rejected in order to preserve the quality of the overall picture.
On a clear day this will be more evident as the run rises and circles around behind the camera and sets to the right, out of camera view, pretty close to where it will rise again only 5-6 hours later. It's summer down there. There is sunlight nearly all "day".
Haven't seen Hawaii yet.

my very good digital camera doesn't do that nor do any others out there that I have seen...I know what is said about the lighting...I don't believe that to be the case based on exp.

too late to see it at Hawaii today...maybe tomorrow

Caught the Mauna Kea camera this morning. Same thing. Digital removal of pixels with excessive brightness. Not difficult programmatically. Just write "0" to pic file for pixels that exceed defined brightness.
I suspect this is a special feature found only in high end cameras intended specifically for this purpose.

it comes in over the Atlantic and goes back out over the Pacific...know anyone in Hawaii we can ask?

keep watching deb and the truth we show itself, thanks for the comment

and I thought it was the Giants that F'd up the super bowl or was it the Patriots? Regardless not about aliens, about what is going on in space relevant to our home

Hey, I didn't mention aliens. I wasn't even thinking aliens. But now I am, thanks a lot......something else to worry about. Aliens in the death star. Great.
Fox news said it was a Giant Patriot (Clint Eastwood) who ruined the super bowl.

if they where wearing Faraday cages I could buy it...the tin hats don't protect for S*&^.

interesting he brought up the moon...how little we really know of it's nature. Wonder what the recent probes have found out...no new info yet

just be aware there is more going on than we are told...I would prefer no one be caught completely of guard when this object gets close enough to have even more impact than it is now....just keep your eyes open is the point of the post

Are you aware of the gravitational affect another large heavenly body would have on the entire solar system if it was in close proximity to the planets. I am not dismissing the idea that governments would keep us in the dark about something that was a threat to us. This object would, by it's very appearance, have to be between us and the sun. It is, as yet, an unidentified object. Unidentified means it lacks explanation. And a lack of an explanation is proof of nothing.

don't dismiss Jim...not trying to force a perspective just want to offer info to be aware of. Yes I understand the impacts...it would pull us back and forth, our climate would change drastically based on the regular jerking back and forth of our planet as it tried to balance the magnetic pulls, earthquakes would be at an all time high as the crust shifted with so much additional force applied, it might seem the seasons and weather patterns are chaotic without reason...hmmmm.

It would be far more drastic than what we are experiencing. And don't get me wrong, I find this offering for conversation fascinating. I was not saying there is not a strange object in the sky. I was not saying that there is. No disrespect was intended.

love faeries

the truth of our situation is the most important issue...all else becomes unnecessary when adapting and survival come to play

any perspective is welcome

something to watch...no wool here just an offering of info

more truth in fiction than in the lies that pass for reality

Seriously? People find this "mysterious"? Be thankful you're using a CCD device instead of the old pick-up tubes.

being certain of your grounded perspective is fine with me, but hope more people will accept others thoughts at least as far as consideration before they dismiss them all together.

something is going on out there in the solar system and I think our attention has been misdirected back to self on purpose...supposed to be going through Galactic awareness. We aren't the center of all things and a quite small part in the grand scheme of things whatever that may be

it is on the video at multiple sites in Antarctica and over Hawaii

it is obviously in an adjusting orbit, it didn't go below the horizon a few weeks ago from these cameras

Hate to break this to you, but a few weeks ago would have been the perfect timing for natural objects in our skies to not have set near the antartic just as there were things that didn't rise for several days near the arctic. Thats so not a conclusive point...

haha so true

That guy's hair gives him tons of street cred! lol.

understood, but why does it move W to E instead of rising in the E and moving W

haven't said a word about aliens although I don't believe we are alone in the universe...not what this is about

Satellite?

My favorite comedian. :)

I agree with you. They are taking photo's of the crack in the glacier.

doesn't move fast enough

I see this Greek fellow a lot on the History channel series Ancient Aliens
whose new season is coming up soon in latter February. Like the hoot
words of a Warren Zevon zong from the 1990s " And his hair was perfect
" Heh. He realy does make a lot of sense. Though many of the people
hereabouts I see every day seem to have escaped the E.T. genetic
engineering of modern cro magnon human hominid ancestors, at least
I know I didn't, thankfuly. Did you know that in the sky directly over Nuremburg,
Germany, over 500 years ago, that a collossal aerial warfare battle was
publicly witnessed ? One of the witnesses, a tradesman who worked in
wood, etched what he saw in an elaborate wood carving which was colored
to show the directed energy beam weaponry of airships firing on one
another some 443 years before modern German citizens witnessed
the events happening in WW2. All that's been documented and authenticated
as Historicly, factualy true. Makes open minded people wonder. They realy
do own the skies.

This guy is no Albert Einstein, yet mocking him on his appearance alone is no Einstein either.

Definitely a possibility.

there are two light sources...look at the Mauna Kea link, one in the South and one in the East.

nothing along those lines for sure, but I do wonder what is happening at Lake Vostok

never liked ticks I hope there won't be more than we already have...done with bloodsuckers

look at the Hawaii link as it is starting to show itself there coming up out of the South. You can switch to the Eastern cameras to see the sun rising at the same time in it's correct place in the sky. Two different light sources. Also as a photographer look at the lens flare...it catches an interesting "reflection" of what it is seeing. Shows best in the middle video.

I hadn't had time to look at the other cameras before commenting. I still contend that it's way too odd for it to be in the direct center of the sun but, showing in Hawaii too is more than a coincidence. It really doesn't add up to me an anomaly at both locations. Possible certainly although, it's far beyond my comprehension of what would be causing it at both locations.

The black dot in the center of the sun bothers me in these images. I understand about CCD devices being swamped by excessive light from doing astrophotography. Why is the dot always in the center and perfectly round. If the solar light was overdriving the CCD plate, would it not appear varying rather than sharply defined. My first thought was that it looked like some sort of occultation but why would it be the same at Antarctica as Hawaii?

the dot is not always so distinct...sometimes it looks like multiple objects...sometimes it looks like one very red and angry not round object...guess time will tell, just hope we are ready if it does get even closer

I understand there is a great deal of what if's, but after watching this for so long I don't believe it to be easily explained away...check out the Mauna Kea camera it is rising out of the South at Hawaii now.

I am certain the objects are not one in the same, they may be similar, or even identically manufactured IF thats the case, but from what I can make out about range and trajectory I don't think the one primarily refered to here can be seen anywhere outside of the antarctic... It's just simply that close.

has been visibly getting closer and it is close you are right, seems to move in and the move back off very quickly

First link "livemovieW" : Frame 24 strong indication of proximity, the structural support pillars are casting shadows at distinctly different angles.

Frames 27-34 show the clear flare moving from point of origin in precisely reverse motion of primary object, this indicates one of two possibilities. 1. The object is being externally lit from a source to the left of frame, or 2. There are at least 3 (no fewer) lenses or clear plexi like screens between object and the camera's sensor equipment (very unlikely with modern digital cameras). Can we find out is the housing box has two layers of "window" in front of the camera, because all things considered I don't think thats a two paned double hung anderson renewal window there.

Frames 39-43 show another classic lens flare, crescent shaped and faint, center of frame, moves along similar trajectory as object. The flare and its movement are not indicitive of anything beyond "ooh sparkly" however that VERY disctint crescent shape is very uncommon in the realm of lens flares... what this means I do NOT know.

Frames 40-45 show two things two things. First the change in ambient light and hue that indicate object's light no longer has a direct path into the lens housing. It also indicates via the shortening of structural shadows that either the object or another light source is still rising in relative possition left of the frame. This is a standard thing as the sun approaches it's highest noontime elevation.

Frames 45-77 (a five hour timespan) show the structural shadow shifting towards the far side of the building, this indicates that the sun is moving behind the camera's possition. By frame 81 the shadows on front of structure make this clear. Additionally frames 99-112 show the shadow of the camera's housing structure move in a fashion that also concludes this movement of the sun is accurate.

Frames 112-144 at this point just follow the light source, that continues to move towards right of frame from the vantage behind the camera, the light source continues moving right, and down... By frame 130 the sun has been active for nearly 18 hours of continuous footage. By frame 140 the sun has "set" which this time of year and this locale means it's barely dipped below the horizon while still lighting the sky... continue to follow the light thru the end of frame 144 and then restart the video... a few frames later the "object" rises directly along what should be the suns trajectory.

THIS OBJECT IS THE SUN, sorry CS... follow the ambient light and watch the last half of the video before letting it restart at frame 1.

--Edit-- Please note that this is 24 hours of video from a nearly stationary point and yet it never goes dark...

This location is so close to the south pole that the sun actually circles it during summer months instead of making and east west transitive pass. The sun in this location during it's winter months would also only barely peek above the horizon almost due north, and will not have time for any transitive movement on an east to west basis.

Again, it is moving WEST TO EAST, because you are seeing the opposite end of its movement then we are used to seeing, the circling sun this time of year will look east to west when you are watching it from the south to north, and the opposite as you watch the far side of our earthly rotation from the north looking south.

--Edit-- think of it this way, it only appears to be west to east because you are upside down (relatively) standing at the very bottom of the world. The summer sun a similar distance north does exactly the same thing when the earth's pole is pointed nearly straight at the sun... best suggestion to visualize this is to grab a globe, put a pin in it just off one of the poles and play with a flash light as you spin it...

East-west is a purely 2-dimension type of measurement, but when it comes to our solar system, nothing is 2 dimensional

We know the average distance to the sun from earth, if we knew the exact proportions of the support beams under that structure we could use the angles of their shadow to get good rough estimate of how far away this light source is, but I am afraid that it will only confirm my suspicion that this mearly one of the sun's little tricks near our polar extremities.

I so appreciate all the thought you have offered this today, but the light source to the left is different...that is the sun and you can clearly see both in the Hawaii cams later in the day. It is not only about the motion but the changes in lighting are drastically different between the sun and this object they are not one in the same I don't believe.

Well lad get off your laurel and charter us an aircraft and arrange for a sled team! I am soooo down for that tip. We can go hunt for the Russian research team at lake Volstok while we are in the area! Let's go get the truth mate!

should have the ability to do so, but I don't...if you can would love to go. Know anyone in Hawaii we could ask to sit out and tell us what they see?

Nope, no hawaiian contacts... but that would be fun wouldn't it?!

absolutely...wish I knew someone still there. Thinking about making a random call out of the phone book to see if I can get a first hand perspective.

you should be able to change the motion of the video...these cameras are pointed South so this object moves from NW down below the horizon briefly than exits to the NE. The sun has a different light and rises shortly after in the East....and is just now coming up from the South in Hawaii.

many people have mentioned it and it is always dismissed as a lighting affect...why doesn't that happen when other cameras take an image of the sun then? My wife has been a photographer for thirty years and has looked through many cameras and lenses...in her experience she does not believe this to be a camera affect. It is interesting to note the objects in the lens fare on the middle link...they are basically a "reflection" of what the lens is seeing, kind of like a hologram of the object it has captured.

Disagreed, I so fully understand what you mean, and how you see it. But depending on reflective properties of the object lot's of oddities are possible. In the 70's there was a theory refered to as the "nega-laser" effect. In which the same principles of light manipulation are used to create a strong halo of light around a completely blackened shaft. The shaft in the central area is not actually light free, but the difference in light levels between the shaft and halo make is register as much darker then it actually is, much like walking into a dark room after sitting in the sun... yeah there's plenty of light in the room to function, but your eyes are only registering the darkness.
--interesting side note, this effect is why eye patches were so popular with pirates who still had two eyes, one they used outside and the other they kept covered for quick adjustment to below decks lighting levels.

it does look rather faked...I assure you the objects are not always the same...sometimes not so round, sometimes more purple and red is visible it is not a stagnant affect.

sure thing KB