President Obama Does an About Face and Embraces Super PACs

You are absolutely correct about the censoring of factual information by some websites.They will not let you post positive information about President Obama. It is extremely obvious what they are doing.
Yes indeed, he will need an enormous war chest to counteract all of the outright lies that is being told by the GOP candidates and the Right Wing media, about him.

Deciding to not let others gain advantage from bad law does not condone the bad law. It merely mitigates the damages and could be a blood transfusion pending an organ transplant.

Excellent!

Corrected my amount. I should have said they have raised a half billion so far. That is still astronomical for private interest involved in politics. And $10 million for some of these billionaires is like $10.00 to us, just a drop in the bucket.

Not all of us are on the "right." And how is giving an opinion on this "complaining" only if you disagree?" Russ Feingold isn't on the "right."

I wasn't trying to pick a fight with anyone. I was saying that the 'right-wing' complaining about this IS hypocrisy. Everyone has a right to their own opinion. This is just my opinion. By the way, are the Democrats to just roll over and allow the 'right-wing' to buy the election? I say at this point you have to fight fire with fire. From what I have read, Obama only did this because Democrats were begging him to allow the Super Pacs, as they are getting clobbered with unfair ads in their districts by Rove and Koch brother groups, who will do and say anything to turn the voters against them. If you tell a lie often enough, more people will believe it. As long as Citizens United is the law of the land you have to able to counteract the lies about environmental issues, union/worker rights, women rights, and, voter rights.

I agree that any complaint from the right wing on this would be extremely hypocritical.

I support him Ziggy. The law is in effect like it or not. and I want him to have as much as the Republicans.

he has my support also

hanks for bringing this point to light

I agree, I saw that rant and it was one of those times when he really screws up.
I like some of his stuff but he can be really dense about reality some times.

thanks
we have too many ranting fence setting, trying to be the arm chair quarterback
When we need a cheering section

I agree. I think he was totally off base. Even the others on his panel didn't agree with him.

I agree. There are way too many cheering for the GOP in the press while they blame everything on Obama. Right now the tide is turning as the GOP candidates try to out do the others on who is more extreme. I sure hope this bites them in the ass in the end. How in hell does the GOP candidate try to move to the middle during the general election will be interesting. If it is Romney, he'll just flip again, as he just tells each target group what they want to hear. But it will be interesting if its Santorum. He is Michelle Bachmann without the high heels and lipstick.

President Romney scares me. I want Obama to win.

Yeah. I want Obama to win too.

President Romney scares me too.

Nobody is saying that it is "ok", rather we are saying that it is unavoidably necessary.

Then we must educate the ignorant at their alter with the media that lead them money

truer words were never spoken from a slave owner than I just read

They literally expect for President Obama to walk on water. This was his only choice. The GOP have been engaged in a negative misinformation/propaganda/lying campaign against him since day one, he will need all of the help that he can get to dispel the lies.

all is fair in love and war

Absolutely!

The reality is servitude of the elite at the expense of the people and this unsurprising information is just more evidence that both parties are completely owned by the elite. No matter which puppet is elected the elite win and the people lose.

I disagree. The fact of the matter is that the Democrats are foursquare against SuperPacs and Citizens United and would be the only ones willing to see that it stops. This cannot be accomplished if we are out of power.

I agree with you

bravo :>)

Well...I think he will be among friends at the table...

I think you are right and that he wins handily.

Thank you, Ambill94! I was just going to post this! I'm with my former senator on this one. You bet he's right...again.

Totally...I like Russ..he's smart to stay out of it all, but we sure need him...:)

I miss Russ as my senator alot. I know right now Citizens United is what he's working on but I would like to see him run for governor in the recall election. He's the one who could beat Walker.

I agree with Russ Feingold on this. This is the low road. You most certainly cannot say you now stand up for the poor, the sick, the environment. Using the fact that Republicans sink to this level because they think money and mudslinging win as an excuse to sink to their level is not smart. It actually looks desperate. I am thoroughly disgusted with both sides and actually wish Russ Feingold has challenged Obama for the nomination. He would most surely get my vote as would Bernie Sanders. If we are to ever change this country for the better and get the dirty money out of it this was the Democrats' time to shine and prove something, and once again they blew it.

Do you think he could be convinced? I get the impression that he likes he new activist role better than sitting in the senate or any other elected office...he seems to be having fun...maybe it's just me...:)

Personally, I would like to see someone like Russ Feingold, Bernie Sanders, or Elisabeth Warren as President, but we are at war now, and it is with each other and it's not going to stop until a decisive victory is won by either side. To allow the victor to be the current incarnation of the right wing is absolutely unthinkable.

Today's right wing has pushed this country into becoming one of the worst violators of human rights in the world and we really need look no further than the vote on the FAA funding bill, which threw unionization under the bus. I have no words for the disappointment I feel in Senator Boxer, who voted for it.

Slowly, but surely, the right wing, funded by a pair of brothers whose fortune was founded on doing business with Joseph Stalin, is working to take away things like the right of unionization, curtail our right to vote in a crippling fashion, and supported the worst politicians we have ever seen. They have been terrifyingly successful so far.

We have turned into a country that has now, and continues on a daily basis, to violate every, single one of the twenty six tenets of universal human rights, ratified at its founding by the United Nations, and to this day, unsigned by the United States.

We are becoming everything this country was founded as a defense against and we are doing it rapidly.

Sadly, theory is often one thing, and practice another. Our SCOTUS has shredded our Constitution and the Citizens United decision was the last straw.

The only way to do away with it is to craft legislation to do so, and have in place a Congress that will pass it.

i weep for this country, for all the unspeakable suffering the right wing has caused not only our citizens but the whole world.

No one can do anything to stop this murderous path if they are out of office.

I'm sad President Obama had to make this choice, but defeat is not an option under any circumstances.

Russ does seem to be enjoying his activist roll. But for the sake of WI, if push comes to shove, I would hope he could be convinced. We can not have 3 more years of Walker.

Exactly! voted ^.

Well said!!!...I have voiced similar concerns in other threads here...either would get my vote...and yes...Dems blew again...first by letting O run unopposed...after the first two years that was stupid...he certainly needed to held accountable at the least...what a damn mess...

Agreed with almost everything...you covered many bases here, and did it well.

Do you think there are enough Rep votes to keep him in office??? I was thinking not...maybe that was complacency based on the number of signatures they raised.

I still don't think so, Ambill94. The dumb and greedy ones will stick by him but so many people have been negatively impacted by his agenda that many who voted for him will want him gone.

Yes, to me it says he can't stand on his record. He needs the money to win because he can't count on the people to back him.

That's good news...Thanks Leen...)

You're welcome, Ambill94.

Exactly...he has shifted into, if not panic mode, then "very seriously concered mode"...and as far as I am concerned let him sweat...he has done nothing for me lately...:)))

Off topic: As the resident environmental specialist what do you know about the proposed Pebble Mine in Bristol Bay, Alaska?

Got a petition from Robt Redford and NRDC today asking for my signature and a donation. This appears to be a major environmental disaster carried out by two foreign mining companies, Anglo American and Rio Tinto.

Out "time to shine" would have given our country SuperPacs forever. We can either "shine" or win to end this later. Which is better, a pyrrhic victory or a real one?

Yep! voted ^

Exactly! ^

I am ready to hear the roar of the engines

Ignorant , impractical, naive flying elephant turds.

You need to stop looking in the mirror when you post. Like how some can stoop to your level too? How about learning how to debate people like an adult?

my dad always said
" you make the one that put you in the trash can clean up the mess"
because he know how he did it
and he Knew about print lice also

Agreed 100%
Brainwashed works both ways...makes no difference what elite political party one has been indoctrinated into. Hypocrites one and all.

Cool...:)

Yes they are...

I am never elated by taking the low road and emulating that which is wrong.

Sometimes you have to get down in the gutter with your adversaries in order to fight. President Obama has taken the high road every step of the way, now it's time to fight fire with fire . Nice guys finish last, and he knows it!

I think their great white hope doesn't have enough practice and the easy life has caused them to loose their jewels

Embracing the tactics that one knows are wrong and openly used by those one despises results in becoming that which is despised.

Tell me that naive , ideological bullshit after all 3 branches of Government turn Republican because Democrats refused to fight fire with fire. It will help me a lot as my civil rights are being stripped away from me.

The Dems and the Repubs have already joined forces to deprive us of our rights. Buying into the notion that one is better than the other keeps us in the condition we are in.

Sorry, I don't buy into paranoia and conspiracy theories without hard evidence. Your opinion does not qualify.

Patriot Act, NDAA.

Not doing anything wrong, don't give a frack. What are you hiding?

I don't like the potential for those tools to be used against the American people by a Bush like president down the line. Too much power concentrated in too few hands.

Well there isn't much that anyone can do about it with a republican Congress. I choose the battles I have a realistic chance of winning , not the one's that are a fait accompli. As long as Obama is in the White House he's made a signing statement that he will not use it on any American citizen. If any of the Republicans are elected they'll be bombing Iran on their first day in office and carting anyone they wish off to camps. Just one more reason to keep Obama right where he is. The other reason , and the main reason I always vote for Democratic presidents , is the Supreme Court. The thought of one more reactionary on that court deciding what happens for the next generation is reason enough to never, ever vote republican. Those of you who believe it makes no difference who is in the White House
are just plain wrong.

Here's an idea for what someone could do about it. Vote against the legislation and don't sign it into law. I am glad President Obama won't use it and has issued a "signing statement" stating so publicly. But establishing the potential for its later use is dangerous.

I understand your reasoning vis a vis the Democratic party. My brother embraces a similar philosophy. Of course I am disappointed by what Republicans do, but I am equally disappointed by Democrats when they pursue the same policies as the Republicans.

I still do not blame Obama. His veto would have been overriden as he explained, which is why he made the signing statement.

He could have vetoed it out of principle and demonstrated the wrongness of the thinking behind the bill to the world. Instead he signed it. Now, thanks to this bipartisan effort, all future presidents will have this power--even the ones that have an R after their name.

Symolism means nothing since it would have become law anyway. Re-elect Obama and a veto proof Senate and a Democratic House and overturn it.

you haven't seen the action yet nor the battle front
and the red coats had money and power but they lost to love of country soosayers and doomsayers

why should he vetoed it ?
what he is for they are against so against they will stop at nothing to defeat the person that has brought fear and dishonor to the south
praise the lord

you got a good defense

Thanks , cmc.