Community | February 07, 2012 | 24 comments

U.S. experiences 4th warmest January on record; Mississippi 14th warmest

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This winter season continues to push the envelope for warmth across the country with January 2012 going down as one of the warmest on record.

http://www.examiner.com/weather-in-jackson/u-s-experiences-4th-warmest-january-o...
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24 comments // U.S. experiences 4th warmest January on record; Mississippi 14th warmest

  • JanforGore
  • coolplanet
  • jimstoner
  • IceKat
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    • jimstoner:

      So the U.S. has had a warm January. Many would be happy with that, but it seems some people think colder is better and I just don't get that.
      If you take the fact that North America is somewhere around 4% of the planet, you'll see that a warm January in the U.S. does not mean the planet is cooking. If you look at the rest of the planet you'll see that the entire northern hemisphere is currently experiencing a pretty nasty winter with temperatures way below average and hundreds already dead.

      You'll like this. If you take a different time period and use NCDC data you'll find that even though you've had a warm January this year, Januarys in your country are cooling at a rate of -0.82F/Decade.

    • 4 months ago
  • jimstoner
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    • IceKat:

      I found this graph much like yours. Almost the entire graph shows above average temperatures, but somehow the trend is downward. In both this, and the graph you provide , the trend line begins in the above average position. This would show that the trend is downward, but it does not say a thing about the fact that both graphs still show above average temperatures. And in the graph you provide the temperature is on it's way up again. But, you did show up as predicted.

    • 4 months ago
  • IceKat
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    • jimstoner:

      Looks like a lot of the predictions were wrong. People were predicting a monstrous winter, and if you look at the rest of the northern hemisphere right now it is happening in many places. Most places are currently below average temperature, and parts of the U.S. are predicted to be below average next week too.

    • 4 months ago
  • jimstoner
  • IceKat
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    • jimstoner:

      It depends on what is used to determine average temperature. In the graph I presented I took the average from 1997 - 2012, it looks like your graph is similar.
      Both our charts show a downward trend, and I'll be the first to be say that a trend is not a prediction, the trend could continue downwards or rise again.
      January's Global temperatures as measured from satellites show a downward trend and currently stand at -0.093 globally; -0.059 northern hemisphere; -0.127 southern hemisphere; -0.138 in the tropics.

    • 4 months ago
  • IceKat
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    • jimstoner:

      If those predictions are wrong too then look to the person who predicted them and ask him/her questions.

      Don't forget, the data prediction I supplied for next week is for temperature anomalies, it is not a weather prediction and does not predict snowfall/rain or any other weather event.
      Also, be thankful you have had a warm winter, unless you're into winter sports ;)

    • 4 months ago
  • IceKat
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    • jimstoner:

      "We think colder is normal. That seems to be what you don't get."

      Oh I get it, but I don't subscribe to the view that just because the weather is different now to what it was when you were born it's wrong, broke, or dangerous.
      People have been writing about climate changes for thousands of years, and that will probably continue for thousands of years to come.

    • 4 months ago
  • jimstoner
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    • IceKat:

      You do not seem to understand that this kind of weather is bad for our agriculture. We will have drought like conditions because of the lack of spring runoff, and the ground will be like concrete in the fields because there was no frost heave. You seem to be willfully ignoring the consequences of this weather just so you can convince yourself that global climate change is not happening. Are you that terrified by the whole idea? This weather is not normal. It should not be happening.

    • 4 months ago
  • jimstoner
  • IceKat
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    • jimstoner:

      "You seem to be willfully ignoring the consequences of this weather just so you can convince yourself that global climate change is not happening. "
      I just don't get this. How many times have I stated that the climate is changing, has always changed and will always change? And now you tell me I deny climate change? Why?

      "Are you that terrified by the whole idea?"
      Blimey, absolutely not, I love all this stuff. I relish in the fact that I can watch our ever-changing climate happening right in front of my eyes. And the research is fascinating too, that's why I've had an interest in this for over fifty years.

      Maybe you think this weather is not normal, but it's all you've got and you're going to have to learn to live with it because you aren't going to change it. Maybe there were times when your weather was ideal for whatever you do, but that does not mean the weather at that time was correct, and it doesn't mean the weather you have now is wrong or 'not normal'.

    • 4 months ago
  • jimstoner
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    • IceKat:

      Then I apologize for getting the wrong impression. And I will live with it. I am certainly not in a state of panic. It seems sometimes that you are dismissive of some of the consequences of the weather to us here in Canada, and probably the U.S. and other places. It is not a question of enjoying the weather as a lot of people in my community are, (and I must admit it's pretty comfortable) but there are real economic effects to this cycle for whatever reason it is happening, as we have discussed in the past. For these reasons it is wrong, broken and dangerous. Even if it is a natural occurrence.

    • 4 months ago
  • IceKat
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    • jimstoner:

      I don't dismiss people's concerns about the weather at all. Most peoples' lives are dependent on the weather to some extent, and we all have to adapt and learn to live with whatever climate we have.
      I am no less horrified to see the fate of some people who endure severe weather than other people here, and believe me, I have been seen some severe events myself.
      The only difference is I don't see these weather or climate events as being the fault of man.
      Obviously, if you are enduring hardship in your life/profession due to the weather or climate then I sincerely wish you well and I hope things improve.

    • 4 months ago
  • jimstoner
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    • IceKat:

      Very seldom do you hear anyone on this site blame man for this weather. Some do. I never have because I don't know why it's happening. I am not enduring hardship personally but I was talking to the daughter of a farmer the other day and apparently they are very concerned.

    • 4 months ago
  • coolplanet
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    • Weather Channel meteorologist Stu Ostro, a former skeptic of the science of climate change, writes that this winter’s weather — shattering historical records, destructive, and utterly extreme — is yet more evidence that climate scientists were right to warn that greenhouse pollution would fundamentally alter our climate system:
      "Weather extremes have existed for as long as there has been weather on Earth. That’s a fundamental reason why as a meteorologist who is routinely observing them I was so skeptical for so long that anything was out of the ordinary.
      However, increasingly during the past decade or so, the extremes have been so frequent, and so extraordinary, and sometimes even at the same time and in such close geographical proximity to each other, that I have become convinced that something ain’t right. That while there have always been extremes, their nature is changing.
      This winter convinces me even further."

      thinkprogress.org

    • 4 months ago
  • IceKat
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    • coolplanet:

      Thinkprogress.org... oh dear!!! Is that the best they can come up with?
      Come on, as you well know, even the usually alarmist UK's Met Office have conceded the fact that there has been no warming for fifteen years.
      Now we have some very strange people telling us that climate changes are natural, but now the change in the changes are something to be scared of.

      Story so far: Earth warms naturally from a cold period. Alarmists blame man for the later portion of the warming, call it Global Warming.
      Earth stops warming, alarmists rename it Climate Change, blame man.
      Now it seems Climate Change is natural - it has been happening since... - now the changes in climate change are what we need to be scared of.

    • 4 months ago
  • maasanova
  • coolplanet
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    • This does not bode well for our forests under attack by insect infestation.
      Temperate forests require temperatures below zero to remain healthy.
      So do humans.

    • 4 months ago
  • IceKat
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    • coolplanet:

      "Temperate forests require temperatures below zero to remain healthy.
      So do humans."

      So do humans? Ah... right... so that's why people who live in deserts have to spend weeks in a refrigerator on a regular basis. I get it now! Thanks.

    • 4 months ago
  • maasanova
  • coolplanet
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