Obama Proposes $800 Million In Aid For Arab Spring

Dude, 800 million dollars is less than 0.0004 percent of the Federal Budget.

Get your numbers in order if you're going to complain about budgetary issues. We can fucking afford it.

How would you know, we haven't had a Federal Budget since Obama got in office, we have no fucking idea what we are spending money on. We are $15 trillion in debt and counting now, I am quite sure we can not afford it, no matter the percentage. Does that number work for you, $15 trillion, in the hole?

That's 15 Trillion in debt coming from over 30 years of reckless spending and useless tax cuts. 4 of it is Reagan's and 6 of it is Bush's. A lot of it is from wars or specific tax breaks as well.

I know we have the money because the Fed pulls in, on average, 2.2 trillion a year in taxes. And 800 million is like a couple of dollars per person.

So yeah, we have the money, chill out.

Depending on which accountant you talk to. We have to address our debt, not borrow less than last year.

In three years Obummer has driven up the debt almost the same amount as Bush 43 did in eight. No contest.
Budget deficit this coming year > One Trillion.
We should stop all foreign aid, throw the U.S. out of this country, don't spend 800 million on islamist radicals. How about we give $2,591,000 to every person in the U.S (308,745,538 per the 2010 census) which should take care of that 800 million + keep the money here and help us. Oh I get it. It is so much easier to blame and confiscate.

800 million from the govt that helped Wall Street rip you off?

What possible benefits could their be for the US?

Wow, a lotta downvotes there. It was just an analysis of the decision guys. It's not like I was advocating for any specific position.

To answer your question. Instability, or even regime change, in places like Iran, for instance, is highly advantageous to our foreign policy. Especially right now when the entire middle east, with the exception of Saudi Arabia, is pretty much totally hostile to us right now.

Consider Libya if you want an example of what I mean. For decades the U.S. dealt with Gadafi through strong-arm diplomacy and extorted cooperation from him with various means. But as soon as the opportunity prevented itself, we moved for regime change.

And, given how long it took to start this fund, that's probably what we're after.

Yeah, it worked out so well in Iraq, didn't it. No money poured down the drain or Amercan boys killed for nothing there. We need to get out of their business and start taking care of our own.

Again, I'm not advocating for any position. I agree with you about Iraq. I'm simply stating their line of thinking on this issue.

Devil's advocate, that's cool.

No, I'm not playing Devil's advocate because I'm not advocating any position.

I'm just speculating as to why they're doing this.

And now we see that it was certainly the Winter, not the Spring.

it has nothing to do with any rational expectations, but one mans tin foil hat conspiracy theories.

How about we let the world take care of itself for a while? Since when is it the American taxpayers duty to give up their hard earned money for the world's interests? They have money, we got our own problems, let them clean up their own mess for a change.

cuz the middle east are presently a complilation of societies that have just undergone, or are going through revolution, with their new identity and policies yet to be determined.so while they are creating who they are, and what policies they will guide themselves by, it would be in our best interest to place ourselves on the helping them side.
in doing so we can put a positive spin on who we are, so that they will percieve us well.much in the way europe does thanks to how we handled them after ww2, when they were reformulating who they were.

what doesnt change is we are a world power and presence.the question is what kind of world power and what kind of presence.the kind you hate, or like?
do we want to achieve security the bush method of military oppression to keep them from blowing us up?or maybe remove the basis for why they want to blow us up to begin with?

the smartest thing we can do is help them rebuild,so their new freedom is synonomous with us.

An what do I get for my Tax Dollar? Free Oil?

most importantly you get the liberty we all demand and love exported and supported in a place that previously had been attacking it.thus making being free easier for us.

but if you are looking for results in tangable terms, just add up all the money we have spent to suppress middle eastern hatred fro us, and that is how much we save in tax revenue going forward if we are able to gain the good will of them today.

had we done this in the 40's instead of installing proxy regimes, we could have avoided the last half century of tax dollars wasted on military ventures in the middle east.

i mean wouldnt it be nice if for once a bin laden type asshole popped up and tried to wage war with us, and the regional powers shut it down, the way the brits or australians do?rather than allowing its proliferation based on mutual distain for us?

You may be able to get an Obama 2012 bumper sticker

I don't believe for one second that Obama is siting around crunching numbers. That being said, whomever is in control of the economy, we shouldn't be printing free money to send to anyone, especially for fomenting political unrest.

OH Bull! bush was doing it to. Their friends are getting rich from it.

So if Bush did it, that makes it OK for Obama to do it?

No but everybody seems to forget what was going on before obama got into office

I cut these presidents a lot of slack to be honest. I don't really think that they are up there making a lot of decisions. It seems that they are just told what to say and what to do.

so you are a fan of pearl harbor huh?
you like the policy of nuetrality?
the rest of us figured out it is not sustainable in the 40's but you still havent gotten there yet?

Yes it does! The freak-in-chief also voted for every spending increase that came to the Senate in that short period of time he was a senator. So, when the prick trys to blame Bush for the debt that he created himself, he should remember that he contributed to it as a senator before he took over the Whitehouse. The debt is stuck on Obama's ass like a dirty diaper.

Yes indeed, could not agree more. It makes no difference if it is Obama funny money, or money borrowed from the communist dictatorship of China that people who have not even been born yet will get stuck paying back, it should not be sent to OUR DEAR AND STABLE ISLAMIC FRIENDS IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

Uh let's see,,,,unemployment of 7%, gas at $1.60 per gallon, a 4 trillion deficit. Geepers, seems like it wuz pretty good times before the Ass Clown got elected by the brain dead mouth breathers!

Ya gotta wonder who's telling Ass Clown what to do. He's certainly doing everything he can to make America a bankrupt, nuke free, gas free, job free, 3rd world country.

That was under clinton not bush

We got the NDAA.

They get bridges and we get treated like terrorist.