Stand Your Ground Law, OVERKILL?
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- thinkingblue
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http://current.com/community/93741296_stand-your-ground-law-overkill.htm
http://www.thethinkingblue.com/kos/overkill.htmlAfter Zimmerman arrest, questions about ‘stand your ground’
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/y-big-story-zimmerman-arrest-questions-...
{{{If self-defense is sufficient, they argue, "stand your ground" may, literally, be legislative overkill.}}}
Do you ever feel like you are the only one, oh just hanging around, with at minimal, A HALF A BRAIN?
Good grief, from the get-go this nasty Florida (along with many other states) law was OVERKILL, “literally”!
The NRA is an organization made up mainly (it appears anyway) of very frightened human beings. They fear every unknown in their life, which is of course most everything. No one can count on the next minute, hour, day, month or year to be without danger or mishap; most of us carry this thought way, way back in our minds, deeply tucked away, safely hidden within the brain, so we can behave normally and act unafraid most of the time. But with the card carrying people of the NRA, this dark thought is up front, right beneath their forehead, at the tip of their frontal lobes. In actuality, they're like frighten little children and cannot feel grown-up unless they carry a gun around and have an arsenal of weapons "LEGALLY" within their homes.
The NRA, along with its lobbies and members, get outrageous and dangerous laws passed like the STAND YOUR GROUND or SHOOT FIRST LAW, because they can, they're a large institution with many big bucks (ALEC) which enables them to buy our legislative leaders and turn them into puppets that they can play with...
(That is, when they’re not playing with their guns!)
I’m not sure the whole reason why they want to push laws that force us to live in a menacing environment but one thing for sure it involves
BIG GREEDY BUCKS!
because they have these oversized greedy pockets to fill, and they do not give a RAT'S ASS who gets hurt while they fill them.
It's SAD !
thinkingblue
ALEC Exposed Through the corporate-funded American Legislative Exchange Council, global corporations and state politicians vote behind closed doors to try to rewrite state laws that govern your rights. These so-called "model bills" reach into almost every area of American life and often directly benefit huge corporations. In ALEC's own words, corporations have "a VOICE and a VOTE" on specific changes to the law that are then proposed in your state. DO YOU? MORE HERE http://alecexposed.org/wiki/ALEC_Exposed
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Accountability and responsibility for the guns everywhere mentality
In the last few weeks, an awakening has occurred. We have always known that public opinion comes down on the side of reasonable measures concerning gun control in America. (Here and here)We have also always known that too many of our elected leaders have chosen to ignore the support for reasonable gun control measures in deference to an organization called the NRA whose uber power and influence in America has led to the passage of gun laws which have made us all less safe instead of safer as is the job of our leaders.
Who is accountable for the culture in America where guns have become more important than people? This article makes it clear:
"How many students have to be shot to death in their schools before this country has a serious discussion about guns? Are the 10 who have been gunned down just since Feb. 27 enough?
The question of the constitutional right to own guns is irrelevant here—even if you believe that the Constitution gives every last American the right to own a firearm (which The Times editorial board does not, but many other reasonable people do).
There is simply no defending the many states that allow people not just to keep guns in their homes, but to buy an unlimited number of weapons each month, and to carry guns, concealed or visible, into public areas, including schools and churches and libraries. The culture of permissiveness is now so out of control that the city attorney in Tampa has said he cannot stop people from carrying guns into the security perimeter that will be established around the site of the Republican convention in August."
There is no defense for what is going on in our country. But yet, the NRA, its' bought and paid for politicians, the entire gun lobby, those involved in ALEC, and the public (who have been lulled into complacency by the onslaught of laws they did not want but got anyway) are all responsible. But Congress and our legislators are the ones who pass the laws and make the rules. They should be making the rules, not the NRA. The guys with the guns should not be making the rules: MORE: http://www.commongunsense.com/2012/04/accountability-and-responsibility-for.html
To join the Brady campaign on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/bradycampaign
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Morris_Greer
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Now ask Brady to fined Over one million Mexican drug cartels gangs here in are U.S. cities. That are killing are young. But he has not done anything about the most evil evanescence out there. And ADD the other two more million gangs in American street's small towns. We are losing the war on gangs. But they won't money for stop the good people from carrying a pistol on them.And so they would like you and me to get killed like a bug from the devil running are street's.THE HR822 BILL IS If I take my family from my home. And we are on a trip in the car to go see yellow stone park. So now I go over the state line. That now law is for that state to see my carry permit the same as my state. So if me and my little girl get a bad guy or guys won't to rob or rape my baby.So I can keep my pistol on me the same way as I was still in my home state. That's it. We are American's Not from MARS.
SYG LAW ←↓↓↓↓↓
"A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force, if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony."
SYG LAW ←↑↑↑↑↑..
So if that lady or the man in the with a wheelchair can't run. Do they call you to save there life. Mr Brady do people call you if the killer is going to kill them. And what your saying they will stop if they talk to you. I can't see what and why you lie to so many with your junk words. I'm have one of my officers writing about you and you lying words. And IRS showing how much free money you got from so many good people you lying to. Getting rich off of a great lie. Sad very sad.
Have a great lying life Mr B( B IS FOR BULL S )
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Morris_Greer
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Morris_Greer
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People you have to be on the street's and a bad ugly person gets you. Are you just going to let them do what ever they won't to. SYG LAW is not the right to kill anyone. This Brady is getting rich of your money. 2A Law is your right to stop the evil people for hurting or to kill you and yours. Go to the sheriff office and look at the pictures of the victims.. Violent crimes is not a joke, And why do the people like Brady all way hurting the good people. And not starting up a site to go after the Criminals. That's to hard right Mr Brady,Criminals don't have any money that you can take from them.. Tell the people you keep pulling junk words over there eyes. FBI Reports tell everything you need to understand. Show you what cities have the most killing's - Raping's to are young, And the evil ugly things they do to them. They are the devil demons of are world. And the states the have carry permits in there states,Crimes go down my 30-40%.
That is a lot of people not getting killed, rapes,robbed, & robberies in that home..People need to take the time out. Yes there been good people that made a bad judgement call. And did kills some one,When they should have not done it. But when you look at how many good people made that type of dumb judgement call. Maybe every two years if that. But Mr money taker Brady,Keeps lying to you people. Look at how many Criminals do in one years time. And then look at where a good person made a bad judgement call.. There is know way they add up. And this BRADY is tell you all like this is all the time. What is that, Do you people understand the evanescence shows.South America in to Mexico,How much firearms comes from there in to America. Millions per year, So how and when will we start working on the real problems. Do your own home work,So you know what is real and not. This Brady is not helping us.He is making to many problems for you all. You will no the real truth, It's so dumb the news tell people a lie and they think is the read deal.When they are just make money off of lies. It is so sad how many people in the news and others do this.And what do we see all the time. ( Non-profits company ) So you make them rich. For lies.
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Morris_Greer
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Paratus
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Didn't get passed the comments on NRA members. Figured the rest was as stupid and stopped reading. Thumbs down.
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Paratus
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crabbyoldguy
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Someone has to stand by the tent flap and snap the nose of the camel, from time to time, if that be the NRA/ALEC/GOA or other pro gun groups so be it.
As far as the Brady Campaign goes, the first line of their mission statement reinforces my comment above.
"We are devoted to creating an America free from gun violence, where all Americans are safe at home, at school, at work, and in our communities."
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crabbyoldguy
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bailey78
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relating to the use of force or deadly force in defense of a person.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. Section 9.01, Penal Code, is amended by adding Subdivisions (4) and (5) to read as follows:
(4) “Habitation” has the meaning assigned by Section 30.01.
(5) “Vehicle” has the meaning assigned by Section 30.01.
SECTION 2. Section 9.31, Penal Code, is amended by amending Subsection (a) and adding Subsections (e) and (f) to read as follows:
(a) Except as provided in Subsection (b), a person is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor [he] reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect the actor [himself] against the other’s use or attempted use of unlawful force. The actor’s belief that the force was immediately necessary as described by this subsection is presumed to be reasonable if the actor:
(1) knew or had reason to believe that the person against whom the force was used:
(A) unlawfully and with force entered, or was attempting to enter unlawfully and with force, the actor’s occupied habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment;
(B) unlawfully and with force removed, or was attempting to remove unlawfully and with force, the actor from the actor’s habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment; or
(C) was committing or attempting to commit aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery;
(2) did not provoke the person against whom the force was used; and
(3) was not otherwise engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic at the time the force was used.
(e) A person who has a right to be present at the location where the force is used, who has not provoked the person against whom the force is used, and who is not engaged in criminal activity at the time the force is used is not required to retreat before using force as described by this section.
(f) For purposes of Subsection (a), in determining whether an actor described by Subsection (e) reasonably believed that the use of force was necessary, a finder of fact may not consider whether the actor failed to retreat.
SECTION 3. Section 9.32, Penal Code, is amended to read as follows:
Sec. 9.32. DEADLY FORCE IN DEFENSE OF PERSON. (a) A person is justified in using deadly force against another:
(1) if the actor [he] would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.31; and
(2) [if a reasonable person in the actor's situation would not have retreated; and
[(3)] when and to the degree the actor [he] reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to protect the actor [himself] against the other’s use or attempted use of unlawful deadly force; or
(B) to prevent the other’s imminent commission of aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.
(b) The actor’s belief under Subsection (a)(2) that the deadly force was immediately necessary as described by that subdivision is presumed to be reasonable if the actor:
(1) knew or had reason to believe that the person against whom the deadly force was used:
(A) unlawfully and with force entered, or was attempting to enter unlawfully and with force, the actor’s occupied habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment;
(B) unlawfully and with force removed, or was attempting to remove unlawfully and with force, the actor from the actor’s habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment; or
(C) was committing or attempting to commit an offense described by Subsection (a)(2)(B);
(2) did not provoke the person against whom the force was used; and
(3) was not otherwise engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic at the time the force was used [requirement imposed by Subsection (a)(2) does not apply to an actor who uses force against a person who is at the time of the use of force committing an offense of unlawful entry in the habitation of the actor].
(c) A person who has a right to be present at the location where the deadly force is used, who has not provoked the person against whom the deadly force is used, and who is not engaged in criminal activity at the time the deadly force is used is not required to retreat before using deadly force as described by this section.
(d) For purposes of Subsection (a)(2), in determining whether an actor described by Subsection (c) reasonably believed that the use of deadly force was necessary, a finder of fact may not consider whether the actor failed to retreat.
SECTION 4. Section 83.001, Civil Practice and Remedies Code, is amended to read as follows:
Sec. 83.001. CIVIL IMMUNITY [AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE]. A [It is an affirmative defense to a civil action for damages for personal injury or death that the] defendant who uses force or[, at the time the cause of action arose, was justified in using] deadly force that is justified under Chapter 9 [Section 9.32], Penal Code, is immune from civil liability for personal injury or death that results from the defendant’s [against a person who at the time of the] use of force or deadly force, as applicable [was committing an offense of unlawful entry in the habitation of the defendant].
SECTION 5. (a) Sections 9.31 and 9.32, Penal Code, as amended by this Act, apply only to an offense committed on or after the effective date of this Act. An offense committed before the effective date of this Act is covered by the law in effect when the offense was committed, and the former law is continued in effect for this purpose. For the purposes of this subsection, an offense is committed before the effective date of this Act if any element of the offense occurs before the effective date.
(b) Section 83.001, Civil Practice and Remedies Code, as amended by this Act, applies only to a cause of action that accrues on or after the effective date of this Act. An action that accrued before the effective date of this Act is governed by the law in effect at the time the action accrued, and that law is continued in effect for that purpose.
SECTION 6. This Act takes effect September 1, 2007.
Handgun ownership: unrestricted, no permit or license requiredRifle and Shotgun ownership: unrestricted, no permit or license required
Semi-automatic "assault weapon" ownership: unrestricted, no permit or license required
Machine Gun Ownership: no state restrictions, compliance with federal law only
Firearm law uniformity: preemption statute, firearm laws uniform throughout state
Concealed carry: licenses granted on a "shall issue" basis; reciprocity available for nonresidents with carry permits from certain other states......................... I Love Texas :)
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bailey78
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cherry5000 [removed]
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cherry5000 [removed]
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bailey78
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cherry5000:
is it yours or do you have the right to have it? if so YES! you can carry an AK-47.
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bailey78