Heartland Institute compares belief in global warming to mass murder

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By Leo Hickman | Friday 4 May 2012 06.03 EDT
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2012/may/04/heartland-institute-globa...
It really is hard to know where to begin with this one. But let's start with: "What on earth were they thinking?"
The Heartland Institute, a Chicago-based rightwing thinktank notorious for promoting climate scepticism, has launched quite possibly one of the most ill-judged poster campaigns in the history of ill-judged poster campaigns.
I'll let its own press release for its upcoming conference explain, as there's simply no need to finesse it further:
“Billboards in Chicago paid for by The Heartland Institute point out that some of the world's most notorious criminals say they "still believe in global warming" – and ask viewers if they do, too…The billboard series features Ted Kaczynski, the infamous Unabomber; Charles Manson, a mass murderer; and Fidel Castro, a tyrant. Other global warming alarmists who may appear on future billboards include Osama bin Laden and James J. Lee (who took hostages inside the headquarters of the Discovery Channel in 2010).
These rogues and villains were chosen because they made public statements about how man-made global warming is a crisis and how mankind must take immediate and drastic actions to stop it.
Why did Heartland choose to feature these people on its billboards? Because what these murderers and madmen have said differs very little from what spokespersons for the United Nations, journalists for the "mainstream" media, and liberal politicians say about global warming. The point is that believing in global warming is not "mainstream," smart, or sophisticated. In fact, it is just the opposite of those things. Still believing in man-made global warming – after all the scientific discoveries and revelations that point against this theory – is more than a little nutty. In fact, some really crazy people use it to justify immoral and frightening behavior.”
But then comes the best bit:
“Of course, not all global warming alarmists are murderers or tyrants.”
It tries to morally justify its posters - the first of which appeared over the Eisenhower Expressway yesterday - by saying that, due to ""Climategate" and the recent incident in which a US scientist called Peter Gleick admitted to obtaining and releasing internal documents (one of which Heartland claims was faked) detailing Heartland's funding and policy strategies, that "the leaders of the global warming movement are willing to break the law and the rules of ethics to shut down scientific debate and implement their left-wing agendas".
It adds:
“The people who still believe in man-made global warming are mostly on the radical fringe of society. This is why the most prominent advocates of global warming aren't scientists. They are murderers, tyrants, and madmen.”
The bigger question, beyond trying to analyse the collective mentality of an organisation that would sign off a poster campaign like this, is whether it will now lead any of the speakers, attendees and sponsors to pull out of the conference and dissociate themselves from this thinktank.
As a result of the embarrassment caused by the release earlier this year of its internal funding documents, the US car giant GM pulled the plug on its funding for Heartland. Will Microsoft, Pfizer or GlaxoSmithKline, for example, now also choose to cut their funding to this organisation?
You also have to wonder if any of the scheduled conference speakers are now having doubts about whether they want to be associated with Heartland. One person who is on the list to speak is Roger Helmer, a British politician who has attended previous conferences. Having recently left the Conservative party as an MEP, the prominent climate sceptic is now the UK Independence Party's spokesperson on industry and energy.
Earlier, I sent him an email with a link to Heartland's poster campaign press release and asked him: "Will you now be reconsidering attending in light of this new poster campaign for the conference? Do you approve of or condemn the poster campaign?"
He confirmed he was still attending, adding:
“I am delighted that the Heartland campaign for the Chicago climate conference has succeeded in its purpose and attracted the attention of the Guardian. I urge Guardian readers to attend the conference if they can, but failing that, to follow it on the web.”
I simply have nothing further to add.
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Only the Heartland goon squad and idiots talk about killing people and alarmist claims of Heartland. Heartland is not a charity or science organisation and it promotes lies that only an individual with seriously limited intellectual capacity would repeat. When such individuals say they don't support Heartland they then repeat the same lies Heartland publishes.
To think people would believe anything an organisation like Heartland says is at the most just sad. 20 years from now they will be asking why no one told them what was happening.
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LivingPong:
Always love hearing from you LivingPong!
But 20 years from now?
I think it's more like 2 months at the rate things are transpiring..... - 1 year ago
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coolplanet:
Yeah, but sometimes there are always people who take a little while to catch on. It took the church 200 years to accept the world was not flat.
I hope people would catch on in as little as two years (I hoped that a decade ago), but sometimes I'm sadly unoptimistic in relation to people understanding science.
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So, Heartland is a propaganda front for the Oil Industry, is what this boils down to. Then isn't it time to slam back against the death and destruction that Big Oil has heaped upon the world for an entire century now? Doesn't this boil down to a cry of "Death To Big Oil!"?
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COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM:
"heartland" is definitely a right-wing propaganda machine, no doubts there. Death to big oil sounds good to me!
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that's so middle age!
pathetic, ignorant, mean and destructive, just missing the inquisitions
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They should have left it up. To me, it says, "Even Ted is smarter than a teabagger ..."
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How many will suffer and die because we did NOT act on global warming ? Mass murder . Case of projection seems to me ....
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artemis6:
Darling, we all will! It's a closed system, even the wealthiest can't survive forever in a glass bubble of purified elements.
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IceKat:
Ever notice how ice in a melting drink tends to congeal as it shrinks?
At this point it doesn't matter if the glass is half full or half empty.
What matters is that ice around the world is turning to slush. - 1 year ago
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As a drinker don't you know that the top half of a drink gets colder as the ice melts?
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IceKat:
Look, it's a picture with snow in it! That has to be scientific proof of snow! AMAZING!
Stone the crows! Ring the bells! The utter brilliance of people never ceases to amaze me!
Check this out! Proof I have an eye!
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If you don't believe in global warming or climate change the green army have orders to burn down your house. To me that's a crime but for the green army it's okay to kill people who don't share their believes, last time I check there is document called the bill of rights , that says freedom of speech , to me that means every one has the right to say what they think. Personally I love the planet but I'm not going to kill people because they don't believe or agree on something. By the way the planet is hot because the ozone layer is weak right now and the sun is having a lot of flares. The idea of the global warming is to collect the carbon tax , which will end on the hands of the elite. We need to educate people about recycling not in killing humans . COMPRENDE SENOR !
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How do you explain this?
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Tayllerand:
Who is the green army and who's houses are they burning down? If the carbon tax idea said the money would go to the elite, it would already be in place.
Here is a quote from Professor Micheal Oppenheimer of the Department of Geosciences at Princeton University "People often confuse global warming with the hole in the ozone layer. The most important connection is that the gasses that cause the ozone hole are also greenhouse gasses, and contribute to the warming of the Earth. Some people are under the delusion that the ozone hole opens up, allows more sunlight in, and warms the Earth. This is not true".
The people who operate large corporations like oil companies know that global warming is caused by man through the burning of fossil fuels. They use institutions like Heartland to protect their interests. How many people will their lies kill in the long run? A hell of a lot more than the Unabomber or any other other serial killer. Their lies might just end up killing people at the level of some diseases.
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IceKat:
What's so disgusting about holding liars responsible for what their lies create? Funny you should even be concerned about what Steve Zwick or anybody else says about holding denialists responsible for their lies. According to you, their not lying, and there won't be anything to hold them responsible for.
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IceKat:
Now you are starting to sound like Mishima. Which view is thin? That people who lie should be held accountable for it, or that nothing is going to happen to hold them accountable for? You can't have it both ways.
If man made global climate change is real, and the corporate world is lying about it, they should be held accountable for every death and property loss their lies contribute to. If man made global climate change isn't real, then there won't be anything to hold them accountable for.
Are you saying that if by some impossibility man made climate change turns out to be real, these corporations will be able to claim ignorance and say they didn't know any better? Do you think they will be able to claim no one told them what the truth was? Is it your contention that if man made global climate change is real, the fossil fuel industry and other corporations don't already know it, and are not lying to protect their interests? What if it is real? What if we find out they are lying? Should they be held accountable then?
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IceKat:
Well if it's not real, then why is Steve Zwick's comment disgusting? Pseudo-religious left wing views? It is the right that believes things they are told to believe by conservative politicians and their corporate masters without thinking about it.
I guess believing the corporate line, the contentions of the very people who gain the most from denying man made global warming isn't faith. Your just another conservative toeing the party line.
It's not the people who know man made global climate change is real that are called the science deniers are they? It's you, and people like you, that are known as a science deniers.
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IceKat:
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-04-02/politics/31273580_1_liberals-and-...
http://climatecrocks.com/2012/03/29/chris-mooney-why-conservatives-dont-believe-...
http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2095549/Right-wingers-intelligent...
http://digitaljournal.com/article/322787
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-sweeney/theres-no-arguing-with-co_b_126805.htm...
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/01/social-conservatives-have-a-lower...
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/03/chris-mooney-republican-brain-scienc...
The only reason I pulled it was because there is no point trying to talk to a conservative. Studies are under way right now questioning why it is conservatives only believe things that are not true. Studies that are looking into why it is that conservatives will not believe science, but will believe the same Republican and corporate liars that they themselves know have lied to them about just about everything in the last 30 years. I don't have to claim conservatives are stupid. Study after study is confirming it. There's the rub. Conservatives don't believe in science, or at the very least don't trust scientists, so the studies won't mean anything to your conservative mind. Will they?
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IceKat:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/scientific-study-boils-conservatism-down-to-a-br...
http://www.asanet.org/images/journals/docs/pdf/asr/Apr12ASRFeature.pdf
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2008/09/backfire-effect
Here is another scientific study that shows conservatism is a brain disorder.
Here is a paper from the American Sociological Review that says less than 4 out of 10 conservatives trust science.
Here is another study explaining the Back Fire effect. It shows how giving a conservative the truth only makes them believe the lie more.
Much easier to trust the political party that lied about Iraq's involvement in 9/11 or their weapons of mass destruction. Much easier to believe what corporations want you to believe. Don't have to give it much thought then do you?
Face it Ice Kat. You are a perfect example of what conservatism is. The inability to grow up.
For the people who are now reviewing this comment. Yet again we prove a conservative wrong and you guys want to review the comment. I don't know if this Ice Kat character asked you to do it or if you are becoming more conservative with every passing day. If Ice Kat asked you to review this comment, and when you find nothing wrong with it, do something about frivolous flagging. The conservatives who comment here are flagging my comments all the time. Just being proven wrong on a regular basis should not allow conservatives to make allies out of you.
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My my. Can't refute any of the studies that prove how stupid conservatives are so you go after a spelling error. I provide scientific studies, you provide a spelling error (sort of making my point for me). Every one of these studies is relevant, but how would you connect them. You are a conservative. I should know better than to get into a conversation with a conservative. Scientific studies show there is no point in it.
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jimstoner:
Gaia bless you jimstoner!
You are good.
I enjoyed you're exchange with icekat. - 1 year ago
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If they want to really scare people they should use my picture. I am not bad like those guys but the picture will be scarier.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/4V5Sx3A1Mxk?version=3&
Heartland Pulls Unabomber Billboard Ad
What were they not thinking???
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Here's one they'll have a harder time removing.
It's obviously stuck with real glue (made from horses hooves). - 1 year ago
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coolplanet:
Sounds like Fox!!! They Suck!
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Lisayou:
“Of course, not all global warming alarmists are murderers or tyrants.”
Nice to know all the Fox news types are so fair and balanced.
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Well, if we're gonna play THAT game, I know a thing or two about design too!!!
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O this is SO good!!!
Thank you for reminding us of the power of propaganda. - 1 year ago
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what was it Chris Hedges said...."societies that cannibalize themselves?"
what a perfect example this is of exactly that.....
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So today, I followed a Land Rover with 2 bumper stickers. The first one said, " I 'heart' Global Warming" and the other one said "Who is John Galt"
People - these righties are CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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There is at least one petition:
http://act.engagementlab.org/sign/climate_killers?referring_akid=107.79285.7_Px0...
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Original tea party members brought to us by Heartland.
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That tank ain't thinking. You can show them pertinent data and it will not matter. In their minds their view is paramount.
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Their real title should be propaganda mill.
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patew... global warming is a myth...
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It's as if we're all locked in a small room with a grenade and we're doing our best to prevent certain idiots from pulling the pin.
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Wow and yep! Feel like that too much sometimes so it's nice to hear others-thanks. Get out the vote, it's not a Liberal/Democrat viewpoint in any way.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/5eN5TxYn0W8?version=3&
Anti-Science Lobby Winning? Money Vs Science
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Thanks!
But I think this goes far beyond mere stupidity. It is evil.
It's the same thing that happened in Nazi Germany when a whole nation rejected "liberal Jewish" science. - 1 year ago
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Really so the Unabomber & Bin Laden had some things right? &?
They were probably right on far more than that issue but I'll stfu....
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Oh !Please!! tell Us More :)
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They chose kaczynski cuz he was a fan of earth in the balance by al gore.
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http://current.com/technology/93589228_32-000-scientists-a-primer-in-denial.htm
Their MO is well known and well worn.
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Stupid strawman argument. John Wayne Gacy was married. Are you?
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mrpuma2u:
hahaha...love this one! Logic is "evil" to some people I guess..;-)
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Not only billboards, they also teamed up with Phillip Morris to question secondhand smoke's health risks, in addition to lobbying for privatization and creation of for-profit charter schools.
Heartland is a conservative think tank closely related to The Heritage Foundation and ALEC and is funded by Exxon-Mobil and the Koch Brothers.
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It is these Big Oil Whores who are committing a crime against humanity!
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What do you expect? It's all they have.
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JanforGore:
Even I am stunned by this evil tactic.
It will blow up in their ugly faces! - 1 year ago
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...and Faux Noise rupert goebbels to push the b.s, big kohk-brothers money behind it all to back up the mad-lies!
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It's their tactic of keeping the conversation revolving around whether this is real because they know more people of all politics experiencing these effects are connecting the dots. Notice they use the word " believe " on the billboard which is misleading. This isn't a "belief" it is a scientific fact and present reality that they want people to stop talking about because they fear the truth stopping the oil gravy train which financially keeps them afloat. So yes it will blow up in their faces. I know I'm not shutting up.
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Can't argue against it with facts and science, so they resort to this. They are pathetic.
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Truth!
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Yea, can't win with Policy ideas, oh I know lets just STOP people who vote Democrat from voting
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The UK Guardian, which broke the story this morning, calls this “possibly one of the most ill-judged poster campaigns in the history of ill-judged poster campaigns."
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/05/04/477921/heartland-institute-compares-...
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coolplanet:
...and the right-wingers will still eat it up! Their insani-tea knows no bounds!
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This REALLY crosses the line!
Where is the outcry from Occupy??? - 1 year ago
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