Yep! There is not a shred of credible or admissible evidence to connect Bin Laden with 911! NONE!

There is not a SHRED of admissible evidence to support any portion of Bush's official conspiracy theory of 911!! Not a SHRED!

1) NO WRECKAGE traceable to a 757 was ever recovered from the Pentagon. As a hard-bitten major market/network reporter who covered numerous crashes (including airliners) during my career, I am confident that the laws of the conservation of matter and energy (see ANY university level physics text) were NOT repealed for Bush's benefit. Crashes of ANY type short of light-speed leave wreckage. See: the 'Conservation of Matter and Energy'.

2) American Airlines (and BTS) says that Flight 11 did not fly nor had been scheduled to fly on 911. Without Flight 11, Bush is not left with much! Flight 11 is crucial to his conspiracy theory!

3) NO Arabs were on the official autopsy report nor were any arabs buried

4) Only Pentagon employees were buried at Arlington National cemetary; there is NO record that any passengers were buried. So --if Bush's theory had been true, passengers would have been recovered and buried. So where are they, Mr. Bush?

5) Washtington Post (and, as I recall, the BBC) reported that Hani Hanjour could not have gotten on board because he did not have a ticket! Are we to believe a 90 pound weakling crashed the gate?

6) Official BTS records indicate that the cockpit door was never opened during the flight! Let's assume that Hani managed to crash the gate and get on board! The question remains: how did he manage to walk through a closed door? David Copperfield, eat your heart out!

Bush and co are motivated NOT to bring this case to court. In a court, the prosecution MUST prove its case. Any effort to PROSECUTE Bin Laden, for example, must be supported with ADMISSIBLE EVIDENCE! Else --Binny walks! Even if Bin Laden had been captured, charged with crimes, Bush would not have had 'probable cause' to bring the case and most certainly would not have won a conviction.

I can tell you that your first point is right on....I worked on planes like this. Before the roof collapsed on the Pentagon , it is obvious to anyone who knows aircraft that a passenger aircraft of that size cannot make a hole in the Pentagon that size. It is impossible outside of a bugs bunny cartoon, but hey physics was not working that day in history.
You have great points but I have been arguing this for years. The one thing that cannot be denied is Physics. This will show anyone who knows of the subject that the Pentagon crash and the Building 7 collapse, and to a lesser degree the demolition style fall of tower 1 and 2 were impossible and the govt lied and continue to cover it up. Not conspiracy not who was where and with who...but physics has formulas, diagrams, and mathmatical facts that cannot be denied. I love when people disagree with me because I can slap 100 bucks down and give them some formulas and a piece of paper and say "PROVE IT and the money is yours" .....its a great party trick. Education the gift that keeps giving and making idiots sound stupider since Aristotle.

Thanks and you are correct! The best candidate is the U.S.Global Hawk. That's consistent with one witness who described a craft that he said looked like a 'hump-backed whale'. There is a hump on the U.S. Global Hawk.

Moreover, the Hawk could have skimmed across the Pentagon lawn leaving it very nearly pristine. That was the case just prior to the roof collapse --looks almost like you could have played golf on it. Having covered several airliner crashes, this is the only one in which it was alleged that the laws of physics had been repealed, specifically, the law of the conservation of matter and energy.

The real killer of 'official conspiracy theories' is the SINGLE rotor found. There are TWO compressor rotors --one for each of TWO engines on a 757. ONLY ONE ROTOR was found. That single rotor is probably less than one third the diameter of EACH of TWO that would have been recovered had a 757 crashed into the Pentagon.

Some rabid Bush types tried to tell me that the missing mass to include one of the rotors was due to the incredible heat! Hey --these are engine rotors! They are designed to withstand the heat inside the engine. Otherwise --the flight is going to be very, very short indeed! Secondly, jet fuel is kerosene! The heat of a kerosene fire can be looked up and M.I.C. If kerosene fires could 'vaporize' AL, then all your flights are going to be very, very short and highly dangerous.

The weight of a 757 is 3,600 pounds! Let's subtract the weight of spent fuel! Even so, four or five white-shirted geeks are not going to be able to hall that much wreckage off the lawn on a wooden gurney!

In short --a non-fuel weight of some 3,000 pounds is going to leave some 3,000 pounds of wreckage behind!! Unless it popped into a wormhole! A better explanation is that Bushco LIED about 911, in fact, concocted a BS cover story simply because 911 was an inside job and Bush, high ranking members of his admin should be tried for the crimes of HIGH TREASON against the people, mass murder, and terrorism.

BRILLIANT SIR! you see how science never lies....LOL. Somehow the drooling masses don't know they can look up the melting point of steele, look up the type of steel in building, look up the max heat of kerosene, and then figure out....how did a steel and titanium engine vaporize while they say they identified the bodies with "bone and teeth". This probably why the keep cutting money to education....we learn too much.

And yes this is high treason....and where we differ from conservative repubs is....Obama goes too because we can admit that we are not just pointing at bush either! He is an accomplice after the fact too actually I say everyone in both houses who voted for the wars should be put on trial for treason too

if the void of information makes it so that you cant prove bin laden has a link to 9/11 how can you then dictate the opposite.being that the required information isnt present.

it makes you just as ridiculous as anyone else who claims knowledge about that which that dont actualy have knowledge about.

i dont think bin laden has a link to it either, for a variety of reasons.but i sure cant state definatively anything.while you some how can huh?

well their is a credible link between the events of 9/11 and bin laden as the events of 9/11 are exactly what the pathology of bin ladens efforts always resulted in, when it comes to the unted states of america.

like busting a guy for selling drugs to a drug addict 75 times, and when that drug addict dies of an overdose claiming their is no link between that drug dealer and the victim.he may not have bought that dose that killed him from his regular dealer, but the link is pretty well established.

actualy the science does lie and quite often, as that is the nature of science.it is subject to verification, with each advancement in verification creating new scientific standards.

cuz if the science never lies, then we have a lot of catchup to do with burning our witches, as any one who floats on water is obviously a witch, as science states it is wood that burns, which witches do as well.being that science never lies and all.

" new data" not a term you have heard on the evening news almost every night huh?

???
I dont think I understand.... steel, kersosene, mass, speed, gravity, thermite, demolition & civil engineering are the sciences I am refering to.

nope i understand quite clearly, that you think contemperary science is fact in the same way religious idiots think what they believe is fact.i got it and it is abundantly clear.

which doesnt change that all science,including the the forms of it that you cited, are subject to verification, making each new method of verification presented a new conclusion.thus the science changes.cuz if science didnt change their would be no drug recalls, nothing new to learn, and we would still find ourselves burning witches.as that was predicated on the "science" of the day.

making what you cite also the science of the day, which will be different tomorrow, so science does in fact change.contrary to your claim.

uh, I am...we are talking about pounds, physics, speed, and melting points and you have mentioned witches twice....I unfortunately dont think you are mentally equipped for me to take up a debate with you. Go take a read of a physics book and we will chat later....

You can also disagree with all the accreditation in this video... here's a hint: the world is not flat and gravity is a constant acceleration..... PHYSICS, THE GIFT THAT KEEPS GIVING SINCE THE BIG BANG!!! If you want to point to a specific part in any of these videos I will be happy to work out the formulas with you, ok?

http://www.youtube.com/user/ae911truth

im allgood.i dont need to alter reality to suite my view.

i recognize variables exist, and methods of verification are subjective as well as always changing making nothing as factual as you claim.im more than equipt to discuss this as i have proven my point repeatedly with no counterance from you, just anger at being told you are wrong.

ironically just as the religious folks do when their ideas are put to the scrutiny of basic reality.

i bring up witches as they are an absurd notion, and also had science that once upon a time explained how to identify them.just one example amongst millions of how science changes.
we can break out science journals from the 50's 60's even the 90's if you like to alook at all the scientific changes that have come due to ever more effective methods of verification.

unless you suppose we know all their is to know, science will assuredly change its conclusions yet again, as it has for the last few thousand years.other wise get cracking getting those witches, as science never changes,making all those who float in water evil witches.

LMFAO ......"variables exist, and methods of verification are subjective" LOL..... Aww....its cute that when a child doesn't know that physics is the exact opposite. The adults are having a conversation, ok? Go back and play.

If you don't want to look at the section that I gave you marked "9/11 Physics" and have an intelligent discussions on the science involved with theorems, and formulas and all....it is an insult to my intelligence as an engineer myself. Thanks, for playing. night night....

The mind is a terrible thing to waste.

lol.....and another thing to you also thing that space flight, astro navigation and landing on the moon is "subjective" ......LMFAO.....you lunatic that is the EXACT NATURE OF PHYSICS.....LOL LMFAO OMG I HAVEN'T LAUGHED THIS HARD IS SOOOOO LOOONG OMG OMG I CAN'T BREATH.....LLOOSO HAHAHAHAHA

I AM a witch and I DO float in water! Now you have to go back and retool your hypothesis.

That story on here last week with the vid of the towers collapsing -- what I took away from that vid was that it IMPLODED just like buildings that a city decides to demolish, and cities certainly don't fly planes into them ... they plant explosives at strategic points and explode them. I guess maybe that's a WITCH'S form of physics :-)!

lmao....

I'm sorry that you are off a little on your understanding of what science is. The theories are not the core . They are tools we try out to see what works . If they don't work they might be replaced if we can find something that does work. Or that works a little bit better.The actual core of science is the struggle to know the truth, the reality that is constant. Science is the full human effort to know "what is". And how things work. It is a struggle that will continue a long time because we don't know much yet compared to what is in the cosmos to be learned. Burning witches is a political action. Not science and never was science. The recall of bad medicine is done because drug pushers lie about the usefulness of trash they get patents on . They lie so they can get money selling poison as medicine. Nowadays the courts and lawmakers are working more directly for the poison pushers so recalls are becomeing things of the past. This also is political. Bad drugs are burning alot more people than just accused witches. There is the term political science. But that is more dogma and deception , not a real science. It comes close to anthropology which is "the study of man". But with a lot of missinformation. I don't know what you guys were argueing about. Good luck to both of you . I'm out of time to look see right now.

so physics is no longer subject to the scientific method?cuz that is the only way it is the opposite.

being as physics is a matter of science it is a matter of verification, as no principals of physics have been derived from simple theory and collective aquiesance.

like i said before im all good.i havent mixed the concepts of faith vs fact, im straight.

and i feel awefull for you that you will never be able to enjoy any scientific andvancements,being as their cant be as science never changes.speaking of which, spend all day in the sun cuz it is good for ya, so says science, which never changes, making this notion just as true today as it was when people believed it originaly.enjoy your cancer

The Bush Boys are the regular dealers to your entire world. Bin Laden was one of thier workers. Thats how the Bin Laden family got rich in the first place. The bush Boys brought us CRACK COCAIN. By the name you created for yourself you should know about that. Do you trust crack dealers? You do if you trust the Bush Boys.

glad your laughing im just feeling bad for ya

not at all, as floating on water is done by people as well (reference the dead mans float if this is tricky) making it not the specific variable to defines whether or not one is a witch.what is happening these days.why is common sense and the tenants of basic deductive reasoning so foriegn?

unlike the rest of the paranoid self rightious conspiracy nutbags i make absolutely no claims about the towers or claim any superior knowledge to any one in regards to what happened.

well except for the people who photo shopped out the planes and made them missles as that is just fucking stupid.

im simply discussing the point that science does change by defenition, as opposed t other folks notion that places the scientific process as a substitution for religion, as a faith based entity.divinely perfect, when it is literally the process which is subject to verification.making it that science changes all the time.

if not your witch ass would be burning right now.this really isnt tricky.

yup, and you just outlined my point.
it is not a matter of theory but of what can be proven, or verified if you will.
making every advancement in methods of verifying a change the the conclusion that had been previously reached, thus science does change.certainly its conclusions do.

once again, if not enjoy your witch burnings, as science doesnt change, making that science still valid.

right.a matter of trust rather than a matter of actual knowledge.im just not into supposing that my suspicions are the same thing as fact.call me crazy like that.
but do go on telling all about your theories that are shared by mosr schitzophrenics and anarchists

This is what is called "word vomit"

2+2=4 until you cnage the variables, and 2 no longer represents what is did previously.

you can go on and on explaining you position, but it doesnt change the reality that all we know today is built on the errors of yesterday, just as what we will know tomorrow will be built on the mistakes of today.hence science changes.not the method, but its results.

if that isnt the case as you claim we have a rampant witch problem as science dictates

Somebody needs to up your meds

Analysis changes. Knowledge accumulates. Science stays the same.

so now you are flagging my comments because you didn't take math class.....you are not even worth the time..... Why am I wasting my time with someone who is actually arguing that 2+2 DOES NOT = 4.

i know it as common sense as taught by any history of scientific achievements.but if you would like to argue semantics what ever

i know right?cuz im crazy like that and need a massive dose of medication to pretend science has always yielded the same conclusions.i wonder how the religious nutbags are able to dellude themselves with out the meds, as the rest of us need them to accomplish this.

anything else from your bag of childish attacks that make no point other than you have nothing of value to say, yet still desire to speak?

jthe scientific method doesnt change, but is understood as a result of it does, which is all that i was (and still am) saying.which is funny, cuz who knew it would be so contentious for s many.

so many jonny come lately's without out avitars brimming with personal opinions,ahem huffington rejects

sure why not.
im flagging you cuz you matter that much to me.
keep going.what other examples to you wish to share of your faulty reasoning process?

id sooner aquiesce to your stupidity than flag you.
btw,welcome to current, where lil napoleans use the flagging feature as their only way of satisfying their need to effect the world, as they other wise cant.

so much so im on the verge of being kicked off the site as a result:)

GFY

wow.who knew i pegged you so perfectly.thanks for confirming my theory, and im sorry to hear about your damage

Hopefully this is our last communication so I will spell it out for you: Good For You! Now, GFY.

Quite fond of your posts _ I +^ them whenever I learn something new & between you & Des_Akkari, that seems to be all the time!

im a sucker for that type of wit, so i applaud making go fuck yourself, good for you.
nicely done

Exactly the point.

http://current.com/community/93815965_new-9-11-documents-expose-the-nobody-could...

Actually I think the twisted term Bush used for this practice was "tough love." At least that was the term he used regarding his time as Governor of Texas when executing prisoners.

It's extremely rare (but theoretically possible) that an innocent person may lie about a crime, say, to protect a guilty person.

That's not the case here. Ergo: the record of crime in the world supports the assertion that the GUILTY are always motivated to lie about a crime primarily because they wish to save their sorry crooked asses!

That is --indeed --the case with Bush the Shrub.

He lied to justify his crooked oil wars!

And he lied about that to save his crooked, lying ass!

- I know! What a shocker!

- more of that "compassionate conservatism"?

He didn't actually lie he just engaged in a little misinformation :-)!

Made me LoL!

just a little fib or so