Community | August 30, 2012 | 28 comments

Republican Tom Smith of Pennsylvania Says Rape Pregnancy, And Pregnancy Out Of Wedlock Is The Same For The Woman’s Father

Mark Scolford: How would you tell a daughter or granddaughter who, God forbid would be the victim of a rape, to keep the child against her own will? Do you have a way to explain that?

Tom Smith: I lived something similar to that with my own family, and I commend her for that. Don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t rape.

Mark Scolford: Similar how?

Tom Smith: Uh. Having a baby out of wedlock.

Mark Scolford: That’s similar to rape?

Tom Smith: No, no, no, but put yourself in a fathers situation and yes it is.

The difference between rape and consensual sex seems to be a very fine line for Republicans.

Are the women of America ready to let these guys make decisions for them?

Rape pregnancy and out of wedlock pregnancy are the same to this conservative mind?
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28 comments // Republican Tom Smith of Pennsylvania Says Rape Pregnancy, And Pregnancy Out Of Wedlock Is The Same For The Woman’s Father

  • Paratus
  • jimstoner
    • +1
      jimstoner  
    • Paratus:

      http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/08/27/747511/gingrich-huckabee-obama-abor...

      That bill, which Obama did vote against, would have required doctors to resuscitate an aborted fetus if legislators felt it had any chance of viability. But Obama’s reasoning for voting against the bill was nothing like how Gingrich and Huckabee represent it. In interviews with a range of media outlets, Obama expressed that he feared the bill would undermine Roe v Wade by defining any fetus as a human with human rights and claimed it could be used to take down any abortion rights legislation that anti-choice activists didn’t like.

      Obama was, however, “fully in support” of a federal bill that provided the same protection viable fetuses while also including protections for Roe v Wade :

      OBAMA: I have said repeatedly that I would have been completely in, fully in support of the federal bill that everybody supported – which was to say – that you should provide assistance to any infant that was born – even if it was as a consequence of an induced abortion. That was not the bill that was presented at the state level. What that bill also was doing was trying to undermine Roe vs. Wade.

      Obama also felt that the legislation would have taken decision-making out of the hands of doctors, giving anti-abortion activists an opening to sue abortion providers by alleging that they chose to terminate the life of a viable fetus on purpose. He did not, however, express any support for “infanticide” or for ending the life of a viable fetus, as Huckabee and Gingrich claim.

      I wonder where he got the idea the Republicans would use any means possible to effect abortion laws?

    • 9 months ago
  • JustZ
  • MSII
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      MSII  
    • More disgrace for PA. We do have more then our fair share of right-wing-corporate-FASCIST sick bastards... This guy needs to be purged from government as do all the right-wingers a.s.a.p!

    • 9 months ago
  • Leen61
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      Leen61  
    • "Republican Tom Smith of Pennsylvania Says Rape Pregnancy, And Pregnancy Out Of Wedlock Is The Same For The Woman’s Father"

      WTF?! These living slime bags want to degrade women to the point of sub-human level. Any woman still voting Republican needs their heads examined

    • 9 months ago
  • warman1138
  • chew_chew
  • HarukoHaruhara
  • MSII
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      MSII  
    • HarukoHaruhara:

      Reverted? This has always been their "thing" the dead rotting past, they so desperately want to return too! BURN WITCH BURN!!!!, Where's my branding iron!?! HEAT the fire!!!!! Oh the stuff right-wing wet dreams are made of!

    • 9 months ago
  • kennymotown
  • FoolMeOnce
  • jimstoner
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      jimstoner  
    • FoolMeOnce:

      What, no opinion about the mindset of this conservative representative? Kenny is gross in his language but you are just going to give Tom Smith a pass?

      You make two replies and in both of them you have something to say about the people making comments here, and nothing to say about what this fool of a Republican said.

      If you’re a Republican voter, foolmeonce is not a very appropriate name.

    • 9 months ago
  • cmc101
  • MSII
  • Varex_Sythe
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      Varex_Sythe  
    • Tom Smith: "No, no, no, but put yourself in a fathers situation and yes it is."

      So essentially, Tom Smith of Pennsylvania IS saying, "yes, having a child out of wedlock is similar to rape."

    • 9 months ago
  • cw9000
  • rerushg
    • +4
      rerushg  
    • I think we're watching a political party devour itself. There are too many people saying stupid stuff. There is no message from the GOP; there are only wedge issues aimed primarily at retaining their base while the middle slips away.
      Democratic strategy is perfect. STFU and just let it happen.

    • 9 months ago
  • jimstoner
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      jimstoner  
    • rerushg:

      One pregnancy is caused by an act of traumatizing violence, and the other may well be an act of love and this guy thinks they are the same for moral reasons.

      How sideways is that?

    • 9 months ago
  • rerushg
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      rerushg  
    • jimstoner:

      PF sideways.
      As I say below, I think these guys are just, in plain speak, fucked up.... and they know it, and they don't know what the hell to do about it.
      Think about it: Akin totally dumps in his mess kit. The party says get the hell out. He says kiss my ass. Sound like a party that's got their act together?

    • 9 months ago
  • kennymotown
  • MSII
  • jimstoner
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      jimstoner  
    • I wonder how this kind of thinking would affect the laws that say a husband can't rape his wife. I wonder if this guy who thinks pregnancy caused by consensual sex out of wedlock, and rape is the same, thinks consensual and non-consensual sex within a marriage is the same.

      Will we soon start hearing Republicans say a husband can’t rape his wife because they are married?

      These modern Republicans are frightening.

      I would have never believed I was going to say this, but I miss Ronald Reagan.

    • 9 months ago
  • rerushg
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      rerushg  
    • jimstoner:

      If you start missing Nixon we'll have you committed for sure.
      Sometimes, Jim, I think we're taking much of this too seriously. These are wedge issues created by almost a daily basis by an increasingly desperate party trying to work though a hell of a lot of internal problems. They're also diversionary. How much time have we spent hammering Akin's bullshit instead of pounding Romney on back taxes and Ryan on Ayn Rand?
      They may even have too much money and figured to just buy the damn election without having to answer to anyone who actually casts a ballot. Now that that's not really working they don't seem to know what to do.

    • 9 months ago
  • jimstoner
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      jimstoner  
    • rerushg:

      I don’t think this is just a wedge issue for these guys. I think if they get the power they want it will be their ideas on health care, especially for women, that will have a bigger impact on Americans than Romney’s tax history.

      These guys really will start passing laws infringing on the rights of American women given half a chance.

      They won’t stop infringing on rights with just American women either I would guess.

    • 9 months ago
  • rerushg
    • +3
      rerushg  
    • jimstoner:

      Well of course Romney's tax history has little impact on Americans. My point was simply that the tax issue is important to Romney's electability. That is the overriding issue.
      I simply think that the GOP is struggling with its two monsters, the Tea Party and Ron Paul, because that's where the weirdness comes from. The result is chaos.
      If they prevail will they pursue women's issues? Federally.. no. In the red states... yes. Will it be serious? No. It's just not worth it politically.

    • 9 months ago
  • HarukoHaruhara
  • jimstoner
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