That graph certainly reflects accurately the opinion of Canadians. We basically see him as a dangerous crazy person.

Wow. I had never SEEN this ! +^d

+^d

good news, thanks for the update!

Aw man, that battleship was loaded with horses and bayonets. We're doomed!

That ship is sailing in Iran's route to the sea through Syria.

On wheels. Being pulled by the backbone of our military: horses.

Ha Ha

About time vacuum are so 20th century---robot cleaners are the way to go.

There will never be any "lasting and just settlement" in the Middle East as long as there is a superpower hellbent on controlling the resources of those countries.

The middle east is a human disaster created/ engineered by the rich and violent "deciders" of the English/ Western empire of greed. Isreal was not meant to be secure but was meant to be in peril. A hostage always in peril to promote the schemes of western "interventionists". The creatures of political power purposely will that no human on this planet be "secure" but by the creatures own favor. And that only temporarily. Dependant upon continued servitude and self abandonment on our part. They have set themselves to be gods. Gods that demand bitter bloody human sacrifice. There is no structure or city we can build that they cannot destroy. There is no human they consider to be anything more than thier rightful domestic help. To them we are each third world and slave dependant in life or death upon thier moods and violent nature. Such is our current human dilema. We are all Isreal . And we are all screwed. Rather than building lasting and meaningfull social structures and institutions we are serveing mad masters who would punish us even for an untoward thought if they even suspect we have one. I have little faith that Freedom will evolve under presant conditions. But I wish it would.

That's an interesting thought. Though it might just as well be argued that they did indeed mean the country to be secure -- never once imagining that their seemingly unassailable colonial grip on the region would one day be threatened.

Good point. But, in the case of the Palestinians, (who don't control oil reserves), their desire for self government, (and the reclamation of land that they see as having been stolen from them), spurs on underground movements that act out, and are reciprocated upon, by Israel. This endless push and shove, (with deadly consequences), is not predicated on the desire for raw materials. It is a seething problem that has been going on since the creation of Israel. If we don't work this out diplomatically, (if it can ever be worked out), the violence continues, and the region remains in a state of destabilization. To give up is to put ourselves in Bush's corner, (of unilateral military intervention, regardless of the consequences).
What you are saying is that we wouldn't even care except for the oil, (and their is a certain amount of truth in that). But what do you say to Israel about that? Do we have their back or not? And, apart from the Israeli connection, should the United States turn its back on the region?
Obama makes a good point about building up the alliances, and the economic pressure points, and using these methods as a substitute for troop placement. It doesn't always work, but it should be used as a first option.

Another spoke on the wheel of economic imperialism is the rise of China, which now accounts for an increasing amount of raw material acquisition. It will not just be the West that will demand oil from the Mideast. So, to abandon hegemony, (short of getting a more sane energy policy), will be to invite further economic ruin for ourselves. This does not justify the exploitation, it brings it home. Maybe we should all keep our expectations low because it is going to get rougher around here. If we continue on the road we are on it is suicide.
But again, the problems in the Mideast are not so simple. The "Arab Spring" has raised hope, the killings in Syria may give rise to a different radicalism, (other than Muslim dominated). The West, (and China), will be put in the same idealistic boat as the rulers are, (to the downtrodden on the ground). The needs of the poor in many of these countries are not being met. But this takes us back to the president, and his idea of keeping the communication channel open. Without that what will we have? We will wind up on the outside looking in, again.

You are right, that should also come into the discussion, (and the fact that it usually doesn't indicates an anti-Semitic bias).

We would still care, in spite of oil. It wasn't necessarily oil that was the issue at the time – surely both the Sykes-Picot agreement and the Balfour declaration preceded that interest. It was more about gaining control of the Med seaboard, crushing the Ottoman empire (and with that, its power in the Balkans) and so creating a bulwark against (then revolutionary) Russia. Similar geopolitical strategies still at play even today.

Yes, US imperialism is indeed alive and well.
Not much to distinguish between the two here in terms of their support for war, drones, illegal killings, "intervention" (what a lovely euphemism), lynching other countries' leaders, geopolitical hegemony, global militarism etc.
Lots of tough talk about "taking out" and "options on the table" and using "any and all means" to get their way.
Basically, it seems that anyone who appears to pose a threat to "American interests" (though these, interestingly enough, were never actually defined) is fair game.
On that the two candidates clearly agreed.
Obama did seem to have the upper hand in terms of general knowledge of geography, though -- but that's a purely academic exercise (like chastising a commenter for a typo).

NOOOO! THE NAVY yes Mitt Anything noooo!

My pop was Marines ... Navy pukes are horrendapigs.

I'm not touching that one.

Horrendapigs. Good expressive word.

Easy now says the former navy corpsman. I may have taken care of your dad.

All in good fun. ☺

How cynical.
When you're young you have have faith in humanity.
When you're old you just expect everyone to shit on you.
I side with the twenty year olds.

They have better dope, too.

Absolutely agreed!
Sometimes it's too much for my aging brain to handle.
But I swear it keeps me young.

I disagree. I'm in my 50's and was a conservative in my early twenties. When I began to understand how things like Reaganomics devastated the middle class I became independent with a liberal bias.

The way I see it is this. I don't care if a person is conservative, moderate or liberal. If what that person says is rational and sensible, I'm all for it and they get my vote. Period. Unfortunately almost nothing conservatives have said over the last 30 years makes any sense UNLESS you're a millionaire or billionaire.

Additionally, in an attempt to shore up a flagging base conservatives made two pacts with the devil. The first was aligning themselves with the christian fundamentalist crazies the second was aligning themselves with the Tbagger crazies. The result is both those groups have taken over the GOP and purged it of any remaining rationality and common sense. Anyone who isn't an independent or liberal nowadays just isn't paying attention.

Your Joker inferance.... is that "mad" Joker? I bet you have deep stories to tell everyone about how you became cynical. I for one would like to hear them. We all learn by eachothers experiences. I have plenty of stories also. I try not to give up my heart despite my desperation for a better world for humanity. Please share some of your story. People need to know eachothers plite. And I thirst for knowledge.

I beg to differ. ; )

I don't think mitty, knows what a submarine looks like. (LOL)

mormons don't go down?

Too funny dude!

Mitty also forgot the Navy, has guided missile cruisers, frigates, nuclear and attack submarines.

LMAO!!! I played that game growing up.

You sank my battleship!

HA!

Boy, it sure shows that Romney doesn't know much about geography, as well as having little knowledge of math or history. Maybe we should be asking to see his school transcripts, since that is all the 'right' keeps harping on about Obama.

Thank you. That was the exact song I was thinking about when I said what I said. (little play on the words Romney uses because he has said so many lies in the last 18 months even he can't remember them all).

"are you smarter than a 5th grader" litmus FAIL.

Absolutely. Canada is totally for Obama. Romney scares the bejeezus out of us.

Bravo!!!!!! re-posted on the realm.

You got that right and Obama will prevent Harper from selling the biggest oil company in Alberta to a Chinese government owned company because America has a say since all the pipelines currently going into the US from this oil company. That is why Harper is waiting until after the election to make his decision. If 'China loving' Romney wins, Harper will agree to the sale. But, if Obama wins he will have no choice but to veto it. This is why this election is as important to Canadians as to Americans.

Remember, Obama wouldn't allow the China government owned company to buy that wind farm in Oregon. He recognizes that it would be a national security issue.

Thank you.

I'm inclined to doubt that since Bain Capital has made so much money transferring American jobs over there.

Your right Mark. He sent China many of our jobs but during the debate he is going to crack down on China. Another flip flop to make himself look good.

It was bro. I still liked the previous debate more of a cock fight. Today Obama showed who is the right choose for the USA if we go on foreign policy only.

Such a nutty professor!

As usual!

☑jackhole's pick.

Too true. Robbinme was just jacking Bamz's good ideas, and saying I can do the same thing, but I am not a negro, so vote for me. What a tool.

He may have learned something tonight!

Obama needs a bayonet! :D

And an ax.

What? No, no he doesn't. It is making good fun with a trope from the movie, with the spectacular Bruce Campbell, Evil Dead.

Evil Dead II is a masterpiece.

Night of the liveing dead reagans!!!

Post that on the other thread!

To vote for the 'lesser of two evils', is simply showing an extreme level of complacency of those spoon fed mainstream media options. This country, our future, our planet, our children ... deserve better from 'us'.

http://votesmart.org/voteeasy/

You comment is a good one. However I suspect it's difficult for a democratic incumbent to talk about peace when doing so will open you up to attacks by FAUX News et al about being "weak".

Fact is Obama got us out of Bush's Iraq quagmire and has set a time-line for us to get out of Afghanistan. Given America's near paranoia and a GOP that takes every opportunity to mindlessly obstruct his initiatives simply because they are his, what Obama's been able to accomplish is almost miraculous.