Um.. what?

I love how when the ACLU writes something critical about Romney it is practically the word of god, but if it is critical of Obama it is "yellow journalism."

The hypocrisy you read from the Nobamabots is the currency of a closed mind.
Please don't trouble yourself attempting to open their minds. It would take 100
sticks of dynamite or nitroglycerine to accomplish that. And the end result would
not be pretty. My point is their double standard is nauseating. You've made valid
points. They've pretended reality doesn't apply to their " messiah " . This idiot
system of voting comments down instead of merely the article down reflects a
website in decay because it gets too politicized. The Nobamabots prove that by
voting down any valid point every time. It's now the Poopflingers' sandbox, bro.

It will take a decade if the method used to unclusterfuck is the same as the method used to clusterfuck .

Lol.

Yeah Ron Paul "Doesn't believe in capitalism" Tell me more about your political wisdom. Oh and "Most pro Israel candidate" is laughable considering he wants to end all foreign aid and intervention. He never said he wants to take a woman's right to choose, he said he disagrees with abortion personally but that he respects Roe Vs Wade and would not try to overturn it as president. Also can I get a source for Accecpts money from BOA UPS ect? He flys fist class while other senators hire personal jets, his office gives money toward the federal deficit every year!

I come for the intelligent discourse...but I stay for the ignorant mudslinging!

Don't worry about anyone glorifying Ron. Now that he's not in Congress--he's one step closer to the historical "footnote" that will be his legacy.

Truth be told he is BUYING Gold not selling it! I think over the last 40 years that he has been buying it Gold has out performed our Fiat $ every year.

He has been buying it in the hope of his succeeding in reinstating the gold standard, which would then make him one of the richest guys in the USA. Greed, nothing else.

Yes I do - greed. All the rest is smoke and mirrors. There simply isn't enough gold in the world to cover all the American dollars in a gold standard. He is a silly little greedy empty suit of a sad individual.

Actually he studies history and he can see that historically Fiat currencies always fail and they often end with the installation of a dictator. You cant be mad at him for placing a wager on the failure of a system which has failed countless times throughout history.

Well said!

His only solution is reinstating the Gold Standard, which is patently impossible. On the other hand, he has been hoarding gold. My husband has met him and interviewed him many times, his assessment of the man is like mine even though I have never met him.

Again his "hoarding of gold" is basically a bet against a system which is doomed to fail. It is like saying evacuating yourself and family from a hurricane zone is selfish. He has been fighting against FIAT his whole life and no one will listen. Can you blame him for putting his money where his mouth is?

Probably not enough Gold. For that matter probably not enough Silver either.
But I notice the U.S.Treasury had no problem having the Denver mint produce
$750 Billion worth of solid Copper " Ameros " to ship to Chinese banks in 2007
to make payments on the national debt they owned the Federal Reserve sold
them. I blogged a UTube video through this website's links I think showing one.
They were the size of a Silver dollar but double the thickness. Copper was the
chosen metal the Philadelphia mint elected to use to produce " pattern " coins
for the new designs of Double Eagle Gold coins during the 19th century when
American money was honest money and real. Ie in accordance with the Con
stitutional legal standard for genuine coined money of real intrinsic value.
( Platimum, Gold, Silver, Copper, are all intrinsicly valuable metals because of
their industrial uses as much as their rarity. ) Still Copper is the most common
semi precious metal. And the Treasury mints would not have the least problem
coining solid Copper or Bronze coins if they didn't completely abandon their
once prudent system of weights & measures they used from 1792-1964.

It's more due to the U.S.' official mismanagement by granting an UnConstitutional
Monopoly to an international Corporate Banking cartel & their investors that
we have a " secret " national debt of over $68 Trillion..And that American
taxpayers have to pay these Banksters $ 1/2 Trillion annualy to print their
phony debt based currency instead of the U.S.Treasury Notes which were
always sound because the promisory notes were limited to the mintages of
coins. I've studied how the Federal Reserve system works. Eliot Spitzer was
our Attorney General here in New York. He has the legal education to under
stand the Federal Reserve is a Ponzi Scheme of fraudulent conversion which
embezzels the valuation of our coined money & it's buying power and sells us
into Usery Slavery. Thomas Edison and Henry Ford spoke out denouncing the
Federal Reserve, not merely Ron Paul. Btw, humans can artificialy manufacture
Gold but so far it costs them $234 to produce $.02 worth of it. When it becomes
cost effective in the 22nd century, it will keep up with the population's demand.

I remember once pointing out that he voted against renewing the Voting Rights Act, and for two days I got swarmed by Ron Paul supporters insisting blacks were happier before the Voting Rights Act of 1964 was passed. I swear I had a pounding headache after that.

One guy told me, "how DARE you insult the greatest man I have ever met!"

All I did was point out he voted against renewing the Voting Rights Act.

Those who want to go back to 1950 heard the dog whistles he put out - and were in perfect agreement.

Did someone say "dog whistle???"

LMAO!!!!!

Ron Paul: Mr. Speaker, I rise to explain my objection to H.Res. 676. I certainly join my colleagues in urging Americans to celebrate the progress this country has made in race relations. However, contrary to the claims of the supporters of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the sponsors of H.Res. 676, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not improve race relations or enhance freedom. Instead, the forced integration dictated by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 increased racial tensions while diminishing individual liberty.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 gave the federal government unprecedented power over the hiring, employee relations, and customer service practices of every business in the country. The result was a massive violation of the rights of private property and contract, which are the bedrocks of free society. The federal government has no legitimate authority to infringe on the rights of private property owners to use their property as they please and to form (or not form) contracts with terms mutually agreeable to all parties. The rights of all private property owners, even those whose actions decent people find abhorrent, must be respected if we are to maintain a free society.

This expansion of federal power was based on an erroneous interpretation of the congressional power to regulate interstate commerce. The framers of the Constitution intended the interstate commerce clause to create a free trade zone among the states, not to give the federal government regulatory power over every business that has any connection with interstate commerce.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 not only violated the Constitution and reduced individual liberty; it also failed to achieve its stated goals of promoting racial harmony and a color-blind society. Federal bureaucrats and judges cannot read minds to see if actions are motivated by racism. Therefore, the only way the federal government could ensure an employer was not violating the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was to ensure that the racial composition of a business’s workforce matched the racial composition of a bureaucrat or judge’s defined body of potential employees. Thus, bureaucrats began forcing employers to hire by racial quota. Racial quotas have not contributed to racial harmony or advanced the goal of a color-blind society. Instead, these quotas encouraged racial balkanization, and fostered racial strife.

Of course, America has made great strides in race relations over the past forty years. However, this progress is due to changes in public attitudes and private efforts. Relations between the races have improved despite, not because of, the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, while I join the sponsors of H.Res. 676 in promoting racial harmony and individual liberty, the fact is the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not accomplish these goals. Instead, this law unconstitutionally expanded federal power, thus reducing liberty. Furthermore, by prompting raced-based quotas, this law undermined efforts to achieve a color-blind society and increased racial strife. Therefore, I must oppose H.Res. 676.

I am going to miss having a Congressman who means what he says and says what he means.

Like ... "I had nothing to do with those newsletters..."

Thank you for posting this statement by Ron on the Civil Rights Voting Act. I was so engaged with his clowning around--I had forgotten what a vicious closet racist he really is. So rather than goodbye--let me say good riddance.

"The greatest man I've ever met!"

Like "I did "NOT" write those newsletters! The times those things were written Llewellyn Rockwell "NOT" Ron Paul was in charge of the day to day operations of the Newsletters.

"I had no idea what was in those newsletters..."

[.... that had my name on it and I made millions of dollars off of.]

http://Horse.no

Well said. That's what Mathew McConeghy said some years back. " I'm from
Texas where we say what we mean and mean what we say. " Politicians are
actors on a different stage is all. Based on all I've experienced, human life
is a monkey jungle comedy of errors for the amusement of the Gods. George
Carlin had it right when he called it as how apalling the stupidity of the average
person is, then abhoring how even more stupid half of them are than that. Still, I
applaud your maintaining a positive outlook on the stances of this H.R.Rep. I'm
justly cynical about most national level politicians because intelligent people
know what an Aegean Stables the Federal behemouth is, so I don't blindly follow
anyone, but I do respect his p.o.v.. Thanks for restating his speech so that we,
who don't allow emotion to close our minds, can see all sides. A mind is like a
parachute-it only works when it's opened. I'm so bored of some attempting to
control the minds of other community members because they're minds are closed.

And then reading their negativistic sympathizers dump their stinky trash too.. If
they're still living in the USA 10 years from now they'll be sorry they attacked him
instead of reasoning and considering his stances against the Federal Reserve
Trojan Horse when they see what kind of hyperinflation $68 Trillion will cause,
especialy when the " secret " military national debt Congress has to classify to
keep from the taxpayers is already over $68 Trillion. Communist propaganda
couldn't hold a candle to the disgusting, disgraceful hysterical vitriol I've had to
tolerate reading over the years slinging mud on this man. They've gone out of
their way to react, instead of respond, as if Ron Paul personaly traumatized
them with some Assault. You know he had to have touched a nerve when he
opposed the TV ass media people allow to mind control them. The Courts ruled
they're " entertainment " and don't have to tell the truth in the USA as they do
in Canada as newspapers must publish. Yeah, Carlin was spot on. I wrote in a
vote for Ron Paul. One of my neighbors supported him with a sign this year.
I voted your post up, and voted down the other's hate post in the same way I'd
vote spam down. This website has been shit on badly by haters attempting to
dominate it by making personal attacks on other community members . They've
earned their reputation for hypocrisy. WBradleyjr1's posts here on current have
borne out most of what Ron Paul has told us.

What did you say?

Someone keeps flagging me even though I am not in violation of Current's TOS so I cannot understand the context of your post.

Apparently someone's idea of "having fun with me" means flagging all of my posts in an attempt to get me banned instead of engaging in an intellectual debate.

That usually means that what I posting is the truth and that some cowards are afraid of the truth.

I like being Kosher, that means a cut above.

What did I say? Re-read my comment...and it's far from the stuff from which "intellectual debates" are made.

I have not flagged you once---the moderators are free to call me out here.

Very much so.

Oh, crap! first Patreous goes down now me! who will save the nation?

You Know what Vic for someone who declares time after time that you dislike this sort of thing you ALWAYS show up right on time.

Thank you Vic. These BULLIES are nothing but troublemakers.

I meant to say a cut above the rest ;-)

Ha!

Now, now, now.....don't get angry. I'm just bored.

Lets just have a recap.

You made an anti-Semitic post. It got pulled before I got to post a reply and I never flagged it, though in the interest of decency rest assured I would indeed have flagged it, you then made several LOADED posts regarding me being Jewish. When called out you resorted to whine about me flagging you---AGAIN wrong, then you just made an attempt to flame out, followed by more Whine.

I did not know you were that fragile, consider the matter dropped. I have no interest in engaging base element.

Just curious, say bored? maybe we can set-up a Craps or something.

This site would do well with a poker room or some sort of gaming link. If things get a little too heated, then just head over and play some cards or something like that....like Pogo type thing.

Ok, that's your right---how about trying to be pro Human instead?

Oh, right. That's what they all say.

"First They Came for the Jews"
By Pastor Niemoller

First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Oh, my God, it's my dad ... back from the dead...

Was this his favorite tune?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3fP15F6szA

Aha - and so it goes...

I have come to realize on Current when you are voted down that USUALLY means you are either speaking truth or common sense.

Yes, indeed ! This voting of community member's comments up or down
( vs voting an article up or down ) is so degradingly freshman high school.
It coincides with the drastic changes this website made years ago importing
a company swarming with Southern right wing religious Baptists with a
personal religious/political agenda as moderators. After that valuable
community members such as Animalia Libero, Snookums, et al were gone
from this site, and virtualy disappeared without a trace as though they'd
been obliterated by a Chinese Communist Maoist Red Guard purge of the
1960s. It also coincided with the proliferation of spam, sock puppets, trolls
etc. And also the jettisoning of Adam, Maria, Erin, Infomania as though they
were too heavy to allow this airplane to continue flying. I liked the old system
of color coding the 5 bars like a cell phone signal strength meter. It's disgusting
that they degraded this cyberneighborhood, let it go to hell, then pandered to
trolls and popularity contests. Now they want to sell it ? Ha. It makes better
business sense to improve a property's value rather than fumble around with it,
and let it degrade before they sell it, no ?

How about being positive, and not being trying.

Bravo. The hive mind is still alive and hyperagressive on this website. I believe
it started by attracting " political " merde instead of promoting interesting topics.
How many times Delia the Artist has featured spectacularly valuable articles on
this website, then has disappeared after reading how the muckers still like to
play in the mud. It reminds me of a recurring feature they used to air on the
Man Show's first 2 seasons. The Poopflingers were monkeys they used to
portray in human situations-sitting on a barstool telling jokes, arguing with
their wife at home... My idea of a Platonic dialog is to learn from others' p.o.v.s,
not to kick shit around. Btw, I like your green screen type background. If that's
meant to be subtle by refering to a domineering troll color coded that way, then
I applaud that too. The hive mind is that person's specialty.

It's been this way since I opened my account.

I've just gotten used to it, and enjoy throwing a jab or two in the fracas. Some folks take it a lot more seriously. Overall, I've had a nice love/hate relationship with the site.

Who knows what'll become of this place now that it's on the auction block? Maybe a big-money tech foundation like TED will buy out the network and go big time--I'd like that. Of course, AOL/Huffington Post could also make a bid--bleeech.

Either way, the political "merde" is what we got for now. Just try to have fun with it.