who demands the destruction of whom again, and i ask you based on the simplest most basic reality possible, what was the population pre-israel, as opposed to post israel, according to you claim of being wiped out of existance?

cuz all reality proves the exact opposite, while you suppose a secular democracy that has seen regime change as often as they have elections (like us) holds a singular policy and mind to even speak of.

nope, as it is as simple as it was when the greek philosophers stated as much, that people get the governments they deserve.it is up to the people to take charge of their governments, and bad ones like the french monarchs during the french revolution, and the arab despots, all eventually are over thrown.

And it seems the hawks in Israel are determined to push western powers into a war in Iran. Sadly, such an enterprise might bring Russia and China into the fray. Only winners will be arms merchants. Israel will suffer no matter what the hawks think.

And many evangelicals in the US want a huge war in the Middle East because they believe it will hasten the 'second coming of Jesus'. What it will hasten is even more terrorism worldwide.

Damned fools.

Yes and this may also be a backdoor way of getting the war with Iran they really want which of course will be WW3.

Iran, formerly the center of the Persian empire , has Big Oil, no central bank
and legal marijuana & hashish. 3 irresistable reasons for the CIA/MIC/Banksters
& their minions to want to knock it off as they did Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan. In
the movie Battle for L.A. the actor spokesman said: " Invasions occur to seize
natural resources. For that, invaders must first eliminate the native population."
Big duh, huh ? The average American is so half awake, totaly brainwashed,
and ignorant they'll believe any bs the Big G feeds them through the ass media.

From Vietnam in 1963 to Iraq in 2003, they've needed to garner support for
foreign invasions to hoodwink people into supporting them. Fools & their money
are soon parted. They even send their sons & daughters to the meat grinder
after false flags staged to mimic patriotism. LBJ came here to Syracuse in 1964
to raise support to invade North Vietnam after the Gulf of Tonkin incident. It
mattered not that the U.S. Navy provoked them. The Vietnamese have Oil too.
So many Americans are virtualy sleepwalking in their own little dreamworld
that they could have a zombie apocalypse occur without even breaking stride.

Yes, they are fools. To think they can coax God into anything is beyond me!

and the million palestinians who live in israel and have since 67, with absolutely no discussion about moving them based on them being palestinian, or not making any legislation about palestinians in general doesnt prove the opposite.

but the war that the palestinains wage, and israel's response to it does speak to israel's will, while their own government and in house policies doesnt?really?

who demands the destruction of whom?

i can toss as many examples from the hamas charter and fatah charter to prove it, can you offer a single piece of israeli policy that does the same?

but keep talking shit

well yeah, israel would like for once western powers to step up and do their end, as opposed to leaving it to israel to take all the responsibility and heat, as was the case with iraq and syria

while still clearly speaking of the red line israel has marked as the point at which they will act regardless of the west, making your position not accurate but demonizing spin.

why would it be ww3 when iraq and syrias nukes being destroyed werent even a war, no less one for the world?

ROFLMVO

I 'demonize' hawks of all nationalities. But I only get attacked for it if Israeli hawks are involved, There is a word for that.

WWII because CHINA likes oil from Iran.

you get attacked for it when it is about israel, as you are ignoring they arent the ones waging the wars.

you cant call those in the defensive position the war hawks and be accurate.you either are a racist (which i dont think in the slightest) or have found comfort in what racist claim in order to proliferate it.

you dont call the americans war hawks for responding to nazism, just as the vietnamese werent war hawks for responding to our invasion.nor can israel be as they have yet to declare a single war.

as does china and russia from syria and iraq too, which doesnt change anything.

and if you are going to tout china, they get their resources from a variety of sources all over the middle east and africa.making it a nonissue, especially when china hasnt said shit about it, and if anything are content with letting others take the political heat for what they have felt no need to oppose.

or does this issue need to be discussed for another 5 yrs, as opposed to the previous 5 yrs it has been before china puts in their two cents as it matters so much to them?