herr rupert goebbels is nothing but the propaganda-minister for the right-wing-corporate-FASCIST-party. Nothing but a propaganda pusher for the rethuglican party.

You are purposefully confusing corporate plants and provocateurs with Occupy patriots, TROLL!!!

"Except for destroying private property, rapes, assaults you are correct."

Funny thing, the occupy movement in Eugene was put to an end because of assaults, destruction of private property, and a death... the problem is that the occupy movement here did not destroy property, they actually took better care of the park that they set up in than the city did and did not vandalize the city. There was an assault... as in a single assault... which resulted in a death, but the assault resulted from the city police releasing a mentally disturbed individual they had in their jail to start a fight. Well it worked better than they'd hoped, that mentally disturbed person not only started a fight, but he ended up having a coronary after he was subdued and turned back to the police by the occupy protestors.

They are not patriots. They are anarchists, criminals, thrill-seekers, communists and statists.

Even though those you picture are more likely to be Corporate Right / FBI agent provocateurs, both symbolic actions in the pic are very similar to such protests during the VietNam War. The Corporate Right government and forces has been using the American Flag to shit on America and the rest of the world for a century, and a symbolic shit on the flag they have been abusing us all with is a symbolic shit on the Corporate Right. Considering the way the Corporate Right utilized statist police forces to violate Occupiers civil rights and physically abuse them, such a person would be justified in shitting on the face of the police while others hold them in place. Symbolical protests are non violent, and are effete compared to what they would be justified in doing to those who are waging a violent war to the death on peaceful American citizens. The Corporate Right initiated a violent war to the death on America, Americans and democracy decades ago. Now, we all see that what should be our government is singularly the tool and mechanism of the corporate right, and American citizens are left to fend for themselves in any effort to improve the quality of our existence. I don't expect for you to be able to recognize or understand this, because you either suffer an amygdala dominant disorder, or are blinded to truth by 40 pieces of silver. Either way, you are not an American citizen by definition of embracing the essential principles that are the foundation of America and our Constitution. You are a traitor to your country, at best. Involuntary manslaughter is still manslaughter, and "ignorance is no excuse in breaking the law, or violating morality."

You are ignorant! Che Guevara was a freedom fighter as much as George Washington was, and every bit as moral.

It wasn't garbage until statist police forced American citizens to abandon their property and turned it into garbage.

Only to the Corporate Right who endeavor to institute their own self enriching and parasitic laws and institutions in place of our Constitution, it's protections and intents.

{those you picture are more likely to be Corporate Right / FBI agent provocateurs}

Easy to say, but a clear case of denial of truth.

The PROOF is in the fact that people around degenerates who burn and crap on our flag, destroy property, scream obscenities and such are all cheering. I suppose all the people who cheer are "plants," too. What a joke.

{symbolic actions in the pic are very similar to such protests during the VietNam War.}

Dumping a load of feces on an American flag is what anarchist-traitors do.

{a symbolic shit on the flag they have been abusing us all with is a symbolic shit on the Corporate Right.}

Tell that to people who think of Iwo Jima, who know the history of the War of 1812, and to the parents of dead soldiers who are draped in those flags, pal.

{such a person would be justified in shitting on the face of the police while others hold them in place.}

Violence and destructive impulses of the Left. The police are brave and heroic. Maybe they should not have volunteered from ALL OVER THE ENTIRE STATE OF CONNECTICUT after the Newtown shooting, eh? Hold down police who volunteered in that town and "shit on their faces?"

{ we all see that what should be our government is singularly the tool and mechanism of the corporate right}

There is now medication for paranoia.

Not at all. They all should be thrilled that someone is stepping out of their characteristic but inappropriate civility, and doing a little more than simply restating to deaf corporatists, "Hey, that isn't fair, it's unconstitutional, hurtful and will destroy democracy."

To the contrary, the anarchists/traitors are people like you who desire to destroy democracy and the Constitution by suppressing the right to free speech. You are very simply a tool in the War On America, witting or otherwise.

Flags have many uses, good, bad, honest, dishonest, patriotic, deceitful and destructive. Sadly, our flag has been used primarily for destructive, dishonest and unpatriotic purposes since WWII. When the flag is being deceitfully and symbolically used as such, to draw attention to that fact, as pictured herein, is a patriotic, pro democracy and pro Constitution act. Again, I don't expect you to be capable of understanding these deeper thoughts.

Painting everyone and everything with one brush and one color will not win you an argument with a thinking person. Sorry.

I'll treat you to a prescription of it, if you won't conclude that it's a conspiracy to turn you into a more intelligent person.

Jesus Christ wasn't treated very royally when he was murdered either. Was he?

You just don't grasp reality, do you? OWS never left -on their own accord-. They were usually forced away from their property, generally without notice, sometimes in the deep of night, without ample time to make the multiple trip to take their property with them. OWS in New York City was forced away and not allowed the time to box and retrieve a very extensive library which they had collected and cared for. Corporate didn't want them to have books which would help them improve their lives, in the same way that the Catholic church burnt numerous libraries in medieval times and during the inquisition. Look up the writer of this: "A little learning is a dangerous thing. Drink deep, or taste not of the Pierian Spring..." The author is a celebrated American writer.

"Not at all."

Not at all what? I do not know to what you are responding.

{the anarchists/traitors are people like you who desire to destroy democracy and the Constitution by suppressing the right to free speech.}

If you consider defecating on the flag and police cars, disrupting people in a city going to work, trashing parks, destroying property, throwing firebombs in the streets and screaming obscenities in public "free speech," then our country is lost. We have degenerated to an ugly mob.

300,000 people (read that number!) gathered in D.C. in the summer of 2010 to protest. There was not a single fight, and they left it clean. ONE-THIRD OF A MILLION PEOPLE!

And these people changed the composition of the United States Congress! You certainly did not like how they changed it, but they did. Without burning flags and destroying property and attacking police; without raping and leaving filth; and without showing disrespect to the public and working people.

{Painting everyone and everything with one brush and one color will not win you an argument with a thinking person.}

No, not all Nazis were "bad," I suppose. Not all those in Pol Pot's army were nasty. There are many "nice" Klansmen, of course, so no need to call them "racists" or anything like that.

This is the line of reasoning that you are using, ya know.

Tripe. Don't start with the "we-are-like-Jesus-Christ" for people who trash property, yell obscenities in public, advocate for anarchy, burn flags, and rape.

{They were usually forced away from their property, generally without notice.}

I cannot know every single case, and I am sure you will do the anti-capitalist, Left-winger thing: Find some rare examples and present them as commonplace and pervasive. I DO know that the park in NYC became one of the most dangerous places in the city, and filled with trash and filth. I DO know that these OWS "protestors" are asked - again and again - to submit to lawful orders to disperse and not "occupy" property illegally. They have stopped trade in Oakland. They have raped and destroyed property.

Tell it to the kid Occupying Tiananmen Square? The poor beguiled kid believes the flag represents what it used to mean, before it was appropriated by the Corporate Right and used to disguise false truths, propaganda and destructive actions.

False, but I suppose GHW Bush's grandfather, August Bush, who cofounded Auschwitz and supported Hitler in WWII, along with J.P. Morgan, are of the same ilk as those in Pol Pots army. I guess you would be in it to though.

"Judge not that ye be not judged." "Let he that be without sin cast the first stone." Mish, I understand your condition, your illness. I hope they pay you very well. The more money they have to pay their operatives the less money they have to destroy America in other ways.

You're amusing. I'm a business person dealing in million dollar commodities, designing and manufacturing them. Like the Texas idiot governor, I can distinguish between socially beneficial capitalism and parasitic and "vulture capitalism." Can you?

blah, blah, blah, blah.... There are none so deaf, dumb or blind as those who insist on being so.

{Tell it to the kid Occupying Tiananmen Square? The poor beguiled kid}

Don't you know that after Gorby left China, the filthy COMMIES killed tens of thousands? For things like hoisting an American flag?

You assert that the flag " was appropriated by the Corporate Right?" Therefore, in your mind, one can crap on it and burn it? That is your "higher reasoning?"

Those stories are puerile speculations. Many businessmen continued business with the Nazis, of course. Why not bring up the Left-winger icon, Georgy Soros? It is inane to get into a competition of "who-can-name-more-putative-Nazi-collaborators," of course. Childish.

{Mish, I understand your condition, your illness.}

Look up this term:
Serbsky Institute.

It is there that they did precisely what you are doing. Look it up. It specialized in those techniques. Go ahead.

{ I can distinguish between socially beneficial capitalism and parasitic and "vulture capitalism." Can you?}

Why do you ask foolish questions? You are proposing anarchy and communism, and that is your tactic? Crap on our flag? Proclaim you have a "higher awareness" (or understanding or some other Marxist-inspired drivel. Yes, Marx actually did popularize that.)

{There are none so deaf, dumb or blind as those who insist on being so.}

Right. If you had your way, I would be put into a re-education camp.

It astounds and amuses me the way the corporate right goes into absolute hissy fits when someone outside of their, by invitation only, club is successful, or when all of their spending can't shut someone down. They're spinning Dervishly and bemoaning that Soros is making money that they believe only they should be making, even though they rant and rave that everyone should be able to employ their practices.That's when they typically have them murdered -assassanated-, and why Soros is compelled to travel with such a security brigade as he does. Dick Scaife blew a gasket when all that spent Pittsburgh money couldn't sink Clinton, and they're all fuming now that their unlimited spending couldn't shut the majority of America and Obama down. You Obama haters are punching and spitting at the majority of America. It's worth considering the psychological makeup of people who insist on maintaining an ongoing fight with the majority of America, when their decisions have already been implemented.

Wow, now you really gave your right wing extremism away! It's been the practice of the Corporate Right for decades to blame and accuse the innocent of the offenses which the Corporate Right itself commits. Here, your are accusing me of your actions. That's called projection and it's part of psychosis. Tread carefully or you might fall off your tightrope of sanity.

Typical Corporate Right propagandist verbal garbage, invoking the "boogey man" names which they have spent decades indoctrinating Americans that the "boogey man" is here and is out to get them. Mish, wake up! The majority of Americans lost faith in the Commie / Marxist scare campaign years ago. Everyone commenting herein knows better, despite that Corporate Right trolls like you keep throwing tinder on the fire.

Not! I don't think you can be helped Mish...

{They're spinning Dervishly and bemoaning that Soros is making money that they believe only they should be making...}

No, referring to Soros is only to bring out the hypocrisy of the Left-wingers. He collaborated DIRECTLY with Nazis AS AN INFORMANT! And the Left-wingers will never bring up this multi-billionaire who destroyed currencies for personal gain for a simple reason - Soros HATES America and donates to Marxist-Socialist causes!

{ they typically have them murdered -assassanated-, and why Soros is compelled to travel with such a security brigade as he does.}

No, all very rich people travel with security, of course. Heck, that nemisis of the Left, David Horowitz, ain't even "wealthy" but has armed bodyguards with him because of Left-winger hate.

{It's been the practice of the Corporate Right for decades to blame and accuse the innocent of the offenses which the Corporate Right itself commits.}

Why do you lie about me? You are protraying me as someone who supports corporations. You have quite a vivid imagination, of course. Just because I do not endorse criminals, degenerates, rapists, destroyers of property, thrill-seekers and such who only want to destroy our economy and set up a Statist government or anarchy, you then fabricate the nonsense that I then must be supporting some rich people I do not even know.

AND I DO NOT ENVY, EITHER......

{invoking the "boogey man" names which they have spent decades indoctrinating Americans that the "boogey man" is here and is out to get them.}

Who is this bugaboo, anyway? To what names do you refer? Where is this indoctrinating taking place? Did they take me away someplace and make me a "Manchurian Candidate?" Is that why I cannot remember the indoctrination? Please tell me, and be specific.

Until now, I thought that I was choosing where to live, moving freely about the country, changing jobs as I pleased, picking friends because I enjoyed their company, reading what I thought was good literature. But it looks like I am mistaken. I have been under the control of some kind of power elite. Please let me know, and be specific. Thanks.

Did you look up the "Serbsky Institute" yet?

Oh yes, Soros hates America. That's why I see him at parties with American capitalists in American homes having a very good time with a bevy of beautiful American women. Of course, anytime the people ask that some of their money be spent on them, for their benefit, people like you call it Socialist/Marxist. But, people like you only delude yourselves, because reality smacks most people in the face on a daily basis, forcing them to deal with facts, truth.

Bullshit! I deal with multibillionaires in my business and they typically do not travel with security, unless they are from corporatized foreign countries and oligarchies, which is what you are helping the Corporate Right create right here. You, obviously believe in the Corporate Right idea of personal superiority and aristocracy of money, whether the money is stolen or not, whether the money is blood money or not...

Your monologues and diatribes in themselves promote the Corporate Right agenda, even if you've been unwittingly indoctrinated by the Corporate Right propaganda/marketing machine. Rich people are not bad simply because they are rich, in my view. But very few get quite rich without harming, exploiting or oppressing another. Stockholders who know that they are earning dividends or stock price increases by poisoning other people's air, food or water are guilty of their stock's corporate sins. Those who get rich from the deaths and spilled blood of soldiers on the oil sands of the Middle East knowingly, are as guilty of manslaughter as the Pentagon. The hypocrisy in all of your posts herein is that those who you advocate for are the "criminals, degenerates, rapists, destroyers of property, thrill seekers" and so much more. The difference between those you advocate for and those related to OWS actions is that your heroes commit all of their sins on mass and international scales. You have buried your head in the oil sands if you don't recognize the assault on mankind by the Corporate Right, for decades.

Ronald Regan rhetoric was one and your worship at the altar of FOX is sufficient in itself. Anyone who listens to FOX is being fed crack pipe smoke.

{The majority of Americans lost faith in the Commie / Marxist scare campaign years ago.}

I see you are one of those who did not perceive Communism as a threat.

You must be watching that Comrade Oliver Stone - Peterovisky Kuznick TV crapola that people think is some kind of a "documentary."

You admire Soros, eh?

“Destroying America will be the culmination of my life’s work.”
-George Soros

Well now your admiration is understandable.....

{You, obviously believe in the Corporate Right idea of personal superiority and aristocracy of money, whether the money is stolen or not, whether the money is blood money or not.}

You are repeating yourself. I already pointed out how you are wrong. I am only trying to provide some insight.

{very few get quite rich without harming, exploiting or oppressing another.}

Left-winger propaganda, completely untrue. If one is around those who have built businesses, one easily and readily knows. This thinking stems from rabid anti-capitalism. There were anti-free market people before Karl, of course, but not on such a level as after Karl and Engels. You have absorbed these views and it is unfortunate.

{The hypocrisy in all of your posts herein is that those who you advocate for are the "criminals, degenerates, rapists, destroyers of property, thrill seekers" and so much more.}

No hypocrisy, none at all. I described the OWSers accurately. I never even wrote about what you are calling "evil corporations" at all.

"your worship at the altar of FOX"

I do not get American television in my home. (SIXTH repetition.....)

lol,,,you have so outed yourself as a troll with this comment. any further response to you is a waste of time. over & out...

You didn't point our how I am wrong, at all. You merely vomited more propaganda, in hopes that some of it will stick to someone. You're disgusting!

There has never been a free market in the U.S., because Jefferson and others were advocating for businesses in Europe right after the American Revolution. Import taxes, tarriffs, duties, trade restrictions,... were implemented from the word go and has continued to this day. All of those are NON-free market practices. Corporate subsidies, trade negotiations and pacts all disqualify the U.S. as a free market. You are preposterous!

After posting what you have, who would believe anything you post. I believe that you are educated, but education doesn't necessarily equal intelligence or awareness. But hey, enjoy your self delusion, it's your right, and I support you in exercising that right.

{who would believe anything you post}

People who believe in a future Arcadia will not believe anything, of course. For them, it is imperative to believe the myths of anti-capitalism. Those who do not consider anything that I post ignore history completely: They actually think that their utopia is right here - now - but reactionary forces are holding us back. "If only" we can rid ourselves of these "evil ones," then the millennium will be ushered in, the "dream" can be realized.

This "vision" has caused more starvation, suffering, tyranny and death than any other idea in human history. Those who ascribe to it are akin to religious fundamentalist fanatics who actually believe that they have some kind of "higher" awareness or realization.

{There has never been a free market in the U.S., because Jefferson and others were advocating for businesses in Europe right after the American Revolution.}

Typical LEFT-WINGER tactic: Take a commonsensical term, and write it in terms of PERFECTION - A perfection that cannot exist, of course. The tactic is to claim that unless the concept is perfect 100% of the time, in 100% of situations, it is not valid and therefore does not exist.

This can be applied to anything: Love, friendship, hatred, health.

Left-wingers apply this absurd idea to the free market.

{You merely vomited more propaganda}

No, look at your posts. You promote all sorts of conspiracy theories, implying your chilisam is at hand "if only."

Funny guy.

The market is only free for the 1% who bbribe congress to write the deregulation and subsidies, the house of lords and the corporate royalty.

Well, in my world, the proof is in the pudding, as some say. I started and built a multimillion
dollar business. I'll wager you have not, and are only spewing what is written on script sheets before you.

LOL,,,your vision is encased in hardened cataracts, at best. In typical Corporate Right fashion, you attack those not in your camp with charges of your own offenses. Hence, you, a fundamentalist ideologue, and indeed, the entire Corporate Right which has been widely recognized and accepted as being supported by fundamentalism, are trying to divert attention and popular opinion from the fundamentalism that has fractured any unanimity in the HOUSE. Yes, most people aren't as highly educated as yourself. But, "...,you can't fool all the People all the time."

In the words of the guy you consider was the least offensive Corporate Right monkey, "There you go again." You claim sanctuary in the fact that you and yours can't be 100% perfect. After all, to many that would be blasphemy. Yet, you act to hold the Left to the perfection standard, and go "Queen of Hearts" on them when you deem then not to be 100% perfect, and in tantrum style shout "Off with their heads." Sophistry will only get you so far. Smoke and mirrors will cloud the understanding of many, but not all. But you are commenting in this forum because your employers know it's simply a "numbers game." Pound away Mish, it's all in a day's pay, and I'm happy for you that you are one of the fortunate to have a job.

I appreciate it is your job to attempt to spin history and facts as conspiracy theories. The Right has gotten away with that b.s. for decades, if not centuries. But, under the penumbra of evil acts, death and destruction which your "Right-wingers" have perpetrated upon the world and humanity, biblically speaking, you and the entire Corporate Right constitute the Anti Christ. Evil guy...

Really? Then why do I know many middle-class people who have made plenty in the market?

{ I started and built a multimillion dollar business.}

You wrote that about six times already. I ain't impressed. Sorry.

It is unfortunate that you do not feel in control of your life.

{You claim sanctuary in the fact that you and yours can't be 100% perfect.}

You misrepresented what I wrote again. I simply pointed out a tactic of yours.

So, it seems that you actually do believe that if the "evil ones" are eradicated, an Arcadia will be ushered in.

EVERYONE probably believes that OWS would just get up and discard their sleeping blankets, clothes and protest signs in perfectly good condition, NOT...

Because your definition is skewed to a very personal definition.

lol, NOT. So not so. But, if your alias is Warren Merrill, who has sort of dropped off the pages since you've started commenting, I believe I commented so in response to one of his aspersions that as a non business person, I -of course- couldn't understand the loftier ideas, principles and notions of the business world. As Warren Merrill, you were ultimately rebuffed into incredulity and disappearance (although Warren may now reappear in effort to suggest you are not he). At least you remember some of your former conversations. While I have nothing to benefit from correcting your similar aspersions, other readers will probably understand that this is one business person who you can't deceive or bully with your Corporate Right rhetoric and propaganda.

No, you misrepresented the truth, and are now trying to slide out of responsibility for doing so. That was an anemic attempt. You are capable of better. You should give your employers their money's worth, and not represent them so poorly. It would be better for you not to comment until you're more up to it.

Yeah, thanks. I tried reversing the rotation of Earth so that the sun would set on the Atlantic, but it just wouldn't cooperate. Fortunately, I'm able to adapt and have learned to accept the sunrise on the Atlantic...

While I don't think in terms of the fairy tales you keep referring to, I believe that the Arcadia you refer to is more a state of mind in the moment. Yet, the battle civilization will continually have to wage against the "evil ones" is the baser, more primitive, part of human nature. Physiologically, it is the cerebral hemisphere's (frontal/prefrontal cortex's) -commonly associated with the "Left-winger nuts and civilization"- permanent struggle for dominance over the amygdala (the primitive, lower functioning part of the brain) -commonly associated the the "Right-winger fundamentalist extremists and the more isolated nomadic hunter-. Condensed, it is the battle between civilization and it's antithesis, the "individual" nomadic hunter. Notice that the salient distinction is that the "individual" nomadic hunter, or hunter group, does not create. Instead, they wander around stealing, killing and attempting to take that which civilization produces. The implication is that they are barbarians, by modern standards of civilization, as in "Barbarians At The Gate." In case you have chosen to forget it, "Barbarians At The Gate" is a metaphor for the Corporate Right, aka "Vulture Capitalists."

I wrote an email to the Washington Post in support of them and emailed people to join me.

Using the totally social and politically ignorant Corporate Right stooly, Ronald Regan, reveals that you are incapable of grasping reality any more than Regan was. He entered the Whitehouse with the early stages of alzheimers/dementia, so he had an excuse at that time. What's your excuse?

No, the very early stages were found YEARS after he left the White House. Ronald Reagan was the greatest president of the 20th and 21st centuries. Heck the American people voted him as the #1 president in our ENTIRE HISTORY for three years in a row! Where ya been?

Ha! They only acknowledged it after he left the Whitehouse, of course. Why else was he known to sleep through meetings and couldn't remember anything at the Iran-Contra hearings? Run that one up someone else's flagpole, yo. Or, are you saying your Jesus Christ of the Corporate Right was pretending not to remember anything about his decisions, aka lying.

"They only acknowledged it after he left the Whitehouse, of course."

Nope. There is documentated testimony that I can post. But you will say it is all a "conspiracy" and that the doctors who clearly and unequivocally said that there were no signs are involved in a cover-up.

That is how Left-wingers work: Agree with them, and it is OK. If not, one is either a liar, brainwashed or involved in a conspiracy.

Must be nice having pat excuses for any conflict or dissent.

{The NY Post is a worthless rag and a poor excuse for journalism.}

It is not worthless, but I keep my paper subscription to the National Review.

I wrote an email to the Washington Post in support.