Better yet we all can be progresshiv, i'm looking for a pair of funny looking glasses as I type.

I left Current a few years ago for over a year. I did not make a big deal about leaving or returning. I was not trolled out, ran off or tired. I just realized I was spending too much time both at home and at work arguing with people about BS that at the end of the day did not amount to a hill of beans.

Then one day I was at my desk working on a Cost-benefit analysis and realized why I like Current. Current is a lot like Masturbating neither is particularly productive but BOTH are a hell of a lot of fun, so I returned WITHOUT fanfare.

My only advice to Progresivehiv “whom I disagree with regularly, but like a lot” or anyone else is if Mishima or Molliblum are able to effect you so badly you have to leave a chat forum then maybe you are not sufficiently thick skinned enough to be on the Internet at all.

That's a very valid question Buck. Maybe it's because they have more control over their own websites and are able to kick out trouble makers that Current seems to have a "reverse policy" on. That is, they kick out the non-troublemakers and leave the trolls to continue to stir up resentment and anger. Yet, if you notice, they all return here from time to time to check out what's going on and contribute in their same masterful ways.

{ if A or B are able to effect you so badly you have to leave a chat forum then maybe you are not sufficiently thick skinned enough to be on the Internet at all.}

Sounds advice. But I do have a question, and it is not about any judgment: Why do people get so upset over strangers in cyberspace, strangers that they can just ignore? I can understand if there is gossiping or bullying among people one knows, like we see with high school students, but we are all adults, and I think most are considerably advanced enough in age to have a variety of life experiences, jobs, friends, family.

I don't get it.

I give them an opportunity but as soon as they start crap I ban them, ask Molli.

As far as I know you are in good standing at the realm. The only thing I keep away from folks is the key to the liquor cabinet because they drink my top shelf booze, eat my cocktail olives and stick back the used tooth picks in the box. Say that's pretty good ASCII art you got there.

Excellent points here.

"The only thing I keep away from folks is the key to the liquor cabinet because they drink my top shelf booze..."

Now I know why you won't let me near your abode! Hey! I did bring some half-eaten shrimp, did I not? Shrimp on the skimpy Barbie?

LOL I'm just joshin' yaz!

I remember Currentexile Buckeye. I thought we had a neat site till one of them trolls copy & paste something I said onto Current. I think it was one of them times you came to the rescue and in time was deleted. It made me realize you can't mention names on any site as they may be looking over your shoulder.

have you ever had shrimp cocktail sauce, that stuff is nasty.

"as soon as they start crap"

Translation: They either disagree or ask me to explain. I prefer personal attacks and mud-slinging.

It was sad Buckeye. There were some I considered good friends. One that was banned from Current for far less then what is happening now. As always good comment.

I never saw that site , what ever happened to it ?

As the trolls came around we all in time left. Last I looked someone had a blog but none of us. It's gone. It was on wordpress.

No safe harbor then .... thank you for the history .

{Over time, I will try to recruit some of my more conservative friends to occasionally post here. This will provide much-needed opposing viewpoints to the Current community and help thin-out all the liberal commenters.}

Excellent idea! I invited one Conservative friend. He quit after a few posts because so many simply jumped on him all at once for simply voicing an opinion that did not align with Left-winger ideology.

Another of those 3-4 month old accounts that suddenly appears after a hiatus sanctimoniously passing judgment about someone they admit knowing nothing about.

"I don't know who Mishima is either."
LOL!

Luke I Am your father!

And who would you be, stranger?

{Mishy says, "Over time, I will try to recruit some of my more conservative friends to occasionally post here. This will provide much-needed opposing viewpoints to the Current community and help thin-out all the liberal commenters."}

Please stop lying. I did not write that. Please stop the distortions and prevarications. That is the crux of the problem about which Progresshiv has complained.

{One less sock puppet in the world....}

Please stop lying. Please stop the distortions and prevarications. That is the crux of the problem about which Progresshiv has complained.

{ you have finally admitted your "goal" to "thin-out" us Liberals}

Please stop lying. Please stop the distortions and prevarications. That is the crux of the problem about which Progresshiv has complained.

Why not deal with concepts, ideas, and principles?

Again...thanx for supporting this Muslim site with your visitations and comments!

Alla Be Praised!

(Amazing how your comments get up-voted one second after they're posted!)

And about lies and truths...if I'm called a liar by someone of the caliber of a Mishima, I wear it as if it were a badge of honor. For a lie to him is as a truth and a truth as a lie.

If I tell the truth about lying, then lie....is that a truth? Do two truths make one a lie? Do two lies make a truth? If you lie about lying, isn't that the truth? "That's true, he lied", said the liar.

Mishy said, " He quit after a few posts because so many simply jumped on him all at once for simply voicing an opinion that did not align with Left-winger ideology."

Why would you invite a "friend" here KNOWING they would not fit in and possibly...most likely... receive negative replies to their comments? Why would ANYONE frequent a site that is left-leaning when they themselves lean far right?

Masochism?

Jus' askin'...

And what would occur if I visited Fux Noise or Glennda Beckistan's site and voiced my opinions? Why they would tear me up limb from limb!

But then again, I'm not a masochist....so, this will be my LAST reply to your responses to one of my comments.

I'm going to restart my promise to myself to not answer your queries...again.

{And here I thought that that was your alter ego named Culdee typing those words...am I wrong?}

No point in my answering now - is there?

Why not write about concepts, idea, and principles?

{Why would you invite a "friend" here KNOWING they would not fit in and possibly...most likely... receive negative replies to their comments? Why would ANYONE frequent a site that is left-leaning? }

Distortion. Read the original post. You are lying about what I wrote.

Ha! :)

He was caught on another site saying in just so many words he was here purely to troll, and even after that was all laid out to the "moderators" he's still here... amazing! We could use some of that sharia-law here! What's the approved punishment? Off with those trolling hands - no more typing for joos! As you said in the 1 earlier post "Alla Be Praised!" :)

LOLOLOL!

All who know me know that I'm an Earthling...a Human Being...first and foremost. I do not follow any "religion". If I had my way, all Mankind would view it differently. We should become the best we can be to one another. And then if there is more than one God, we get to choose which one WE wish to worship! But we need to make ourselves presentable enough to be fought over by those supposed Gods. More precious than diamonds or gold. Make THEM jealous of US! Cause THEM to want us to GLADY worship the "Winner"!

REAL brotherly (and sister) love! That's paramount!

However, it begins with how we treat those who transgress against us as a population. I am against prisons and physical punishment. We should inculcate into each child the desire to NOT want to be banished from our "tribe". We are social beings. We need to nurture the positives within each and every one of us so as to want to be part of society! That ought to make the difference between treating others like less than human but as a close family member. As we truly are! DNA-wise!

That's my dream. And if, as I think...there are no "gods"...would it hurt for us to treat each other with kindness and compassion? None that I can decipher!

Cave ab homine unius libri. Beware the man of one book - no matter which it is!

+^d

Oh ... interesting ...

Don't think he's going to be recruiting anyone to Current....

Culdee got kicked? What'd he do?

Nothing as far as I can tell.

I suspect he was flagging too many comments without good reason to try to get someone else banned.

Just before he got removed, one of my comments was removed. Perhaps he flagged it without cause.

Bwahahahahahaha! ((gasp)) Bwahahahaha!
That was hilarious, Bucky.

"Please stop lying."
Buckeye Bill is NOT the person you should be directing this admonishment to.

One can have their own account removed if they want to suddenly leave for some reason. I think that is what happened in this case as I don't believe Culdee ever said or did anything abusive

I get you now, silly me in not seeing it before, to you everything we say are distortions because that is how you see the world.

Try sticking to concepts and ideas.

Well I'll be it is. Funny I never bothered with it when I switched to Fios.

"Hey!!!! Al Gore...Al Jazeera....they both begin with "AL"!!!!"

Ah-hah! It's surely a "Leftist", anti-american conspiracy!!! I see it all now! It's "revealed"! I'm sure Faux Noise will break the story any moment now! ;)

Dang! I fed 'em with their lead-in title, didn't I? Oh well...Al Capp, Al Capone and Al Jolson might make an argument against the correlation, if they were still alive that is.

+^d

...those deaths are just a RUSE I's tells ya! A RUSE to divert us, yes that's it!!! Those "leftists" are wily theys is!

..if only we could just do gods-work and "home-school" um all! Or "privitize" all those god-less heathen "leftist"/"commie"/"pinko" "liberal" public schools! Those good-ol corporate-boys'll teach-um "right" (not "left")

I would put purchasing a cable channel that has a viewership of less than 35,000 waaay down on the list of priorities of American assets lost compared to shipping ports GWB's Administration approved the sale of to the United Arab Emirates or how the Chinese are buying up homes and brick and mortar businesses throughout the country! Or how about that California oil company China nearly bought?

Of course, Fixed Noise said nothing about the Saudi oil Prince buying up NewsCorp shares enough to be second in controlling interest power! Which happens to be majority controlled by an Auzzie named Murdoch. What's so "American Owned" about that?

Ha! yup, I can definitely see that.

Truth!

I can't wait to see what happens. As far as the trolls go, some will go back to Breitbarttv and moonlight over on yahoo news but one the Dalai lama of trolls will set-up shop on some poor left leaning site as it's his calling in life.

Thanks for posting video.

You're very welcome, llip!

I hope no one thinks I'm leaving because of the ownership change. Not at all true. The press and Fox in particular has failed to see the honesty in their reporting. The were thought to be an arm of AlQiuida (sp?) because it was the only place the Talaban would use to spread their hate. Like Ben Franklin said, Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. But I've been fortunate enough to see the real mindset of AlJahzeera by seeing what it contributes at RT news, and it's nothing like it's portrayed to be.

"Like Ben Franklin said, Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer."

And RT News....now who always went on a rant about them on this site?

Can you recall?

Sure can't remember that. I know it was not me though. I was amazed from the first time I watched it how balanced and honest their reporting was. And to think it was Russian-owned, I just could not believe what I was hearing. That's when I went on an on-line hunt to see why and how long we've been lied to. In fact, when I found out about it, I told everyone here and no one seemed to disagree, in fact, most hardly acknowledged my comment.

Well Faux Noise... consider the propaganda lies from them and nothing but LIES.

Does that mean you're the one who is opposed to RT.TV? I'm sorry to hear that because I find it much more informative than our news here. For example, the filmed a live debate of issues that teens in Great Britain feel are important for them, and it was held inside the House of Lords. That was something we would not see here but we should have that kind of forum for mid-to-late teens. Also, it surprised me that Great Britain is experiencing the exact same financial and poverty problems that we are, due primarily to the extreme costs paid out for war efforts. There are many things I heard there first that I didn't hear about here until 2 weeks later.

No I was just saying that the same people who are making a fuss about this sale seem to be the ones who are all wrapped up in the LIES that Faux Noise tells them (the Faux Noise "faithful"), they seem to have a major disconnect there.

The major disconnect is the news propaganda we receive here. If you had been watching Oliver Stone's series on The History of the United States, you'd find that we had been lied to and cheated for decades by the press. The needless and pointless wars we got involved in, and even now, the spin our press puts on facts about what's happening in the middle east, in eastern and western Europe, China, and everywhere else on the globe. We get reports here. On RT we get videoed interviews so it's more like "from the horse's mouth." I prefer that.

Let me give you a quote by the #1 labor leader, George Meany, at the time that Comrades Stone and Kuznick said America was evil:

Right after WWII, urging the adoption of the Marshall Plan TO STOP COMMUNIST SOBs. Unless we do..
"we will find ourselves on the Atlantic shore - Joseph Stalin's brutal, fascist dictatorship."

In a speech, George Meany referred to the
"....stinking America haters who love Moscow. I am prepared to sign a non-Communist affidavit."

You need to read some REAL history. THIS is an issue that really bothers me because there are many Americans who will believe this tripe that should be mocked and thrown in the garbage.

If I am here in Japan when Kuznick comes on his yearly propaganda trip to Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I will meet him. I will face him and tell his students what he is. I will do that. I have already asked him a pointed question, asking as though I were interested for "scholarly" reasons, and the idiot couldn't freakin' answer! He did not know the very thing that he pretends to know in his propaganda.
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YOU CAN CHOOSE TO TAKE THIS AS A PERSONAL ATTACK, BUT IT IS NOT. In fact, I am honestly saddened to hear that anyone watches that and believes it. It is sad for the country that I love. It is not a personal attack on you. It is on those ..... who would produce such lies and hate.

"Sure can't remember that."

Wasn't it Warren Merrill? Or David_H? I can't recall, either....but I has an excuse...dementia is setting in! I'm getting older by the day....or is it month....no...year! But it sure feels like seconds to me.

Is it Edward R. Morrow you're trying to think of? And David H.? Could that be Chet Huntley and David Brinkley? You happen to have caught me at a lucid moment. I'm suffering the same memory problems. But yes, that was when the true story was more important than the cost of getting it. No matter where they had to fly to, they'd get it from the folks on the ground. It's just not that way here anymore.

And if you had been paying attention to Oliver Stone's History of the United States, you would find that he had not relied entirely on press accounts, because the press was lied to. Don't look at this one comment of the hundreds you post as encouragement by me to engage you in dialogue. I'm really not interested in any more of your spin strategies. You can down-arrow me and my friends all you like.

"Is it Edward R. Morrow you're trying to think of? And David H.?"

Eddy? Naaa...I can quote him in my sleep! And thank your lucky stars you never got to meet David_H (with underscore), or congoboy or many of the beauties that used to call this place their second home!

I was hinting that you seem to be very familiar with this place and was wondering if you have been here in another lifetime...reincarnation, don't you know! Your sentence structuring and word usage sounds so...so...like I've read your posts many times before. But, like I said, my memory banks aren't what they used to be.

Perhaps we've met on another site and I may be recognising your choice of word usage here. Like a voice blast from the past!

Theres an old saw, "the winners write history..."

The only other places I have ever posted before, and I was a moderator at both sites, was AmericanEagle.com and Pete'sPond, both on Ustream. I didn't even know about Current until shortly before the election when Dish gave it to me for free for one month and I watched it. It blew my mind, but now it's crumbling. Can only hope Al Jaz saves it.

Oh, NOW I know what David H. you're talking about. I thought you were talking about reporters. David H. is the one who has been banned from Current. Well, guess what! He's not banned from GetSatisfaction despite my efforts to find out why. He's relogated to stalking that place now. Check it out. Go file a complaint against one of the trolls here and you'll probably find him there to disagree and call you a crybaby. Is that what you're talking about?

Where's McCarthy when you need him?

Our circumstances between 1933 and today is that while in 33 the big corps. had influence on the government, they were not as great a presence IN government as they are today. Sure there were communist-fascist senators and house reps. Also, in 1933 neither the democratic president, the congress nor the people were about to stand for sitting by while these people tried to destroy their democracy.

Today, we're seeing a lot more people who should be standing tough and fighting, instead bailing because they can't cope with this extreme tea party movement. And the public is so wrapped up in Kim Kardashian's butt size, they haven't a clue what's going on. The "Red" states, mostly in the south, are buying into everything the tea party is selling until they see them in action. Then they vote them out, but this is a slow process. Also, the Red states seem to be convinced there is going to be a revolution and they need to be armed military style. Can the NRA be responsible for this train of thought? I don't know, I'm not one of their supporters, but I'm seriously afraid of if it comes down to a revolution, whose side are all these Red states going to be on? Are they going to kill the people they voted into office for lying to them, or are they going to want to kill the opposing party, the liberals? Things to ponder while I go rest. Thanks for the video.

Yes, those sites that I moderated all had a code of conduct for comments. When you're moderating a group that's focused on a pond, waiting for a lion or an elephant to show up, conversations drift. We could give warnings to those whose drifted to an unacceptable zone. But we had to take snapshots of exactly what was said each time, as well as what we said back to them. If it was kept up, I just cut their cord. If they came back to complain to the management about this, or me, I had to have the proof, but they were out. It may be one month, 3, 6 or permanent. Depends on how much they wanted to maintain the privilege of contributing to the site.

Current has rules, but ............?

"...they were not as great a presence IN government as they are today..."

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa????????

This is where I get off that history train of yours you're riding into a station somewhere!

They OWNED the government...lock, stock and barrel. AND the politicians, too! They were even far more open about it then, also!

Things are so tame now compared to the days of old...national guards were sent out to shoot striking employees and physically force them back to work! Police busted heads of workers seeking fair wages and safe working conditions! What those who came before us suffered no one would think of going through that today! But slowly and surely, our worker rights are being eroded away.

And these things happened for the benefit of corporations, friend!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPOSPECfOkU&feature=player_detailpage#t=120s

The Chineese are laughing all the way to THEIR OWN banks while our so called international corporations continue to fund their factories, raise their middle class and working class economic strength, and thereby fund there infrastructure improvements such as the three gorges dam and hi-speed trains. All things our so called international corps refuse to do here. So whom is waging class warfare here????

If they were actually a "Person" they would be charged with Treason.