The Electric Universe
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lightningthunderfox
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savroD:
the first link i find very poor. Im an extreme skeptic and can see both sides of every argument and can see flaws in the electric model but the first link is taking things that i never even heard the electric theory say and pointing to those points as why the theory is wrong
- 4 months ago
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lightningthunderfox
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lightningthunderfox
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lightningthunderfox:
or rather they are taking things in the electric theory and explaining them wrong.
i think the suns corona, the dirty snowball, redshift, quasars, dark matter are all things that are against standard theory and support electric theory or some other theory that we dont know about yet - 4 months ago
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lightningthunderfox
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s_peak
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Sweet. Hadn't heard of this before. I'm a fan of Holographic Universe theory, which has more to do with fractals... and consciousness essentially being the precursor to matter.
Electric Universe fits into this view, actually. I love thinking about this stuff. Thanks for the post!
- 4 months ago
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s_peak
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rodstradamus
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I've been trying to wake people up to the Electric Universe Theory for a couple years now, but Current stopped allowing me to upload posts from www.thunderbolts.info. My group is www.current.com/groups/electric-universe
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rodstradamus
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lightningthunderfox
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rodstradamus:
awsome, the thunderbolts group helped me out alot. I love their stuff on comets
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lightningthunderfox
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mitekillem
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This can't be right, it's too dumbed-down. We're not scientists, so there's no way we could possibly understand how the universe works. Only scientists know that. They have the over-inflated degrees and tenure to prove it. Also, their work is "peer-reviewed", this isn't. Therefore, it cannot be true.
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mitekillem
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lightningthunderfox
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mitekillem:
cant tell if you are being sarcastic.
its when knowledge is institutionalized that we have problems, The Nazis had very good science that they were the master race and would laugh at anyone who said other wise. Same thing applies nowadays, we have universities that might as well be churches you are laughed at when you simple question things like the big bang or evolution. Its fine to say its the best explanation that we have right now but to deny scientist the right to experiment because they don't agree with the status quo is wrong. Things like quasars have claimed a lot of scientists their jobs because they stumbled upon something that didn't match up with what the old guys said - 4 months ago
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lightningthunderfox
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mitekillem
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lightningthunderfox:
I was completely sarcastic. I've taken a lot of slack for a while on here because I do love science, and I also love history. And if history tells us anything is that scientific answers aren't permanently fixed; they change with time and new discoveries.
Otherwise, we'd still be practicing blood-letting for curing ailments, the Earth would still be the center of the solar system, Comets would be bringers of bad-luck, and the sex of your child would be determined by which phase of the moon it was conceived under.
Which is why when someone says something is "settled science" I laugh in their face.
Science is not what we know, it's what we think we know.
Look at what the discovery of Quantum Physics did to the world of Physics. - 4 months ago
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mitekillem
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lightningthunderfox
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mitekillem:
ok cool. i hear you on people strange notion that science is such a powerful or onesided view. Southpark did it good when they replaced the word god with science in a episode just to show how people can be. statements like "This isn't about what I "feel." It is scientific fact." make me testy.
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lightningthunderfox
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letsliveinpeace
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Great post, thanks for sharing.
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letsliveinpeace
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Vierotchka
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I think you might find this interesting:
http://current.com/technology/94014280_sciencecasts-dark-lightning.htm
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Vierotchka
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lightningthunderfox
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Vierotchka:
im subscribed to sciencecast! :)
and yes this is very interesting i like how they talk about matter moving close to the speed of light along the magnetic field lines.
"Everyone knows that electric fields are the most efficient way to accelerate electric particles. Well, everyone except solar physicists, whose thinking is still constrained by the nuclear furnace theory" - 4 months ago
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lightningthunderfox
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NewToEU
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For anyone looking for a beginner's introduction to the Electric Universe model, a free book is available at http://www.newtoeu.com
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NewToEU
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lightningthunderfox
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NewToEU:
27 MBs! better not download this to work computer. :)
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lightningthunderfox
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treewolf39
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NewToEU:
Thank you!
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treewolf39
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Vic_Romano
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I always wonder if everything I've been taught is wrong.
But a lot of it is still just simply not truly understood.
What the f___?
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Vic_Romano
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lightningthunderfox
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Vic_Romano:
Powerfull Vic_Romano!
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lightningthunderfox
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Vic_Romano
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lightningthunderfox:
Good thread on which to lose oneself. Thanks for sharing this.
Another classic. Spiral out. Keep going.
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Vic_Romano
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lightningthunderfox
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Vic_Romano:
awesome. been awhile since I listened to Tool, this got me through some tough times in high school. Im defietly gonna try listening to this album in the sequence given.
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lightningthunderfox
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Gordon_Shumway
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Vic_Romano:
Yes! Everything You Know IS Wrong ...
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Gordon_Shumway
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treewolf39
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Vic_Romano:
I love this stuff. Thanks!
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treewolf39
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Vic_Romano
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Gordon_Shumway:
Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
Who better to further my understanding of the universe than your avatar?
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Vic_Romano
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Vic_Romano
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treewolf39:
Me too. At the end of the day, it's a very humbling experience to ponder how little I really know about how it all fits together.
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Vic_Romano
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lightningthunderfox
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its when knowledge is institutionalized that we have problems, The Nazis had very good science that they were the master race and would laugh at anyone who said other wise. Same thing applies nowadays, we have universities that might as well be churches you are laughed at when you simple question things like the big bang or evolution. Its fine to say its the best explanation that we have right now but to deny scientist the right to experiment because they don't agree with the status quo is wrong. Things like quasars have claimed a lot of scientists their jobs because they stumbled upon something that didn't match up with what the old guys said.
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lightningthunderfox
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lightningthunderfox
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“Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality.” Tesla
^why I think dark matter and dark energy is a mathamaticians scapegoat instead of admitting to himself that gravity cannot be the only driving force in the Universe. - 4 months ago
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lightningthunderfox
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lightningthunderfox:
Maybe the driving force in the universe is the drive to equilibrium/homogeneity. Universes like ours are temporary anomalies. What we perceive as the second law of thermodynamics and time flow is an attempt to restore equilibrium. But there is always an overshooting and slight imperfections that give rise to limited separate "realities".
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fiberbundle
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mitekillem
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fiberbundle:
What is space? It is the distance between two objects.
In the big bang theory, there was a single object which burst and created mutliple objects. It's postulated that time did not exist before this moment. -This is in error, because without time you cannot have cause and effect. This is what I consider laziness.
Because if time did not exist before the big bang, then there was no cause, nor was there a creation for the mass and energy which exploded. It had to come from somewhere.
I think in following generations, the Big Bang Theory will become obsolete, and people will come to realize the truth. The universe is infinitely large, infinitely small, has always existed, will always exist, and will constantly continue to evolve and change. - 4 months ago
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mitekillem
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lightningthunderfox
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http://www.deceptiveuniverse.com/quasars.htm
why I don't believe in the Big Bang the way "they" present it. - 4 months ago
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lightningthunderfox
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s_peak
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lightningthunderfox:
The "big bang" is kind of like the panspermia approach to the "where did life come from" debate. If the big bang happened then what was before that, and before that? Where did that matter come from? How did it bang?
I think it makes more sense to think of our universe as being part of integrated life systems (or possessing some kind of driving proto-consciousness), personally. I think of it more in terms of a fractal, which requires consciousness to become material.
Basically, the big bang is akin to the sprouting of a seed... and life is a prevalent precursor, not a random post event.
There's interesting evidence of this, actually. Consciousness, to me, MUST exist before matter... which is to say, matter is created from the drive of consciousness. Much like how the human mind expands into infinity, so too does the universe.
The Holographic Universe is a great book on that note.
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s_peak