LOH: Leftist Obsessive Hate

{I got them good & they end up ignoring me.}

That is NOT why those whom you mistakenly label "trolls" are not responding to you.

feeling personally attacked?

revealing, very revealing

{feeling personally attacked?}

No, vindicated.

Thanks for asking, anyway.

{cuz her time in the lime light ran out.
it happens to everyone.}

Yes, Governor Sarah Palin has undoubtedly already reached her plateau, and she will not be as much in the foreground as she was. She will still remain a force, but not as before.

Very true. And threads like this one are further proof that she still "remains a force".

Some people keep telling her to go away, yet they keep bringing her up again. If they REALLY want her to go away, they would completely ignore her and not mention her anymore.

I see your still here.

Please turn the lights out when you leave.

G'night

{If they REALLY want her to go away, they would completely ignore her and not mention her anymore.}

Yes. I asked the question before and got no answer: Who were the vice-president choices for Kerry and Gore when they ran for office? Palin's partner, McCain, lost. Any other VP candidate would be relegated to obscurity very fast. But they still rage over her.

{"I asked the question before and got no answer: Who were the vice-president choices for Kerry and Gore when they ran for office?"}

Hey let me jump in here on that statement! You asked that question, and you did get an answer, because I answered you. Correctly.

And BTW, while Palin may be relatively well known for a failed VP Candidate, she's not known FOR being a failed VP Candidate. I'd bet that most of the people who "know her" think she was from "The Real Housewives of Somewhere" or was perhaps a runner up on "Celebrity Apprentice".

If all former VP candidates made a 4 year Reality TV Show out of their lives following their defeat, they'd all be better known ...

Note to Jay Leno: Asking people just who Sarah Palin is / was might make a great "Jay Walking" segment.

i hate to break it to you (really i do cuz it is just sad at this point) but she never was a force.she was a fase prophet to those who would believe anything.

if she is still a force in the future, that says more about those who support her, than anything else.

if the right makes a move to step away from the hyperbolic bullshit, and get back to actual conservatism, she like glenn beck and so many others will be the thing that is the stain on their history not the force that drives them tomorrow.

the difference between being a political party, or continuing down the path to the republican clown factory they have been heading towards.999

{I'd bet that most of the people who "know her" think she was from "The Real Housewives of Somewhere" or was perhaps a runner up on "Celebrity Apprentice".}

That is Left-winger vindictiveness and envy.

{If all former VP candidates made a 4 year Reality TV Show out of their lives following their defeat, they'd all be better known }

No, Governor Palin was an immediate success, of course. I really tire of the denials. They are really silly.

{i hate to break it to you}

Of course you do not.

{she never was a force.}

She was and still is, of course.

{she was a fase prophet to those who would believe anything.}

Palin galvanizes the base, draws crowds, gives hope, and inspires many. This is incontrovertible. You may not like the people to whom she appeals, and you may not approve of Palin, but she is a force. Undeniable.

no i truly do hate to break it to you, as i had stated at this point it is sad.

it isnt the case of me being an asshole who found the opportunity to bash a fellow asshole, and the "hate to break it to you" was a sarcastic preface, but me being an asshole in general who at this point feels truly bad at how confused another human being can be.

the joy of being correct is greatly soured knowing that me being right isnt posed against some asshole, but a pathetic mislead fool.

so yes, i do hate to break it to you, but will none the less, as letting people who are wrong, continue to be wrong, is enabling their problem.that is what would be cruel.

galvenizing the base and giving hope is why she was a false prophet.

it is why she isnt a legit force, but a snake oil salesmen.

hope, and drawing crowds arent the strength of a politician.look at the name, the title.the ability to create policy, and politic, are what makes the politian.

the whole thing is sad, as watching you guys in the right trying to polish so many turds is like watching the arab world right now having to confront the truth we have been telling them for years.

they at least arent as stubborn and self destructive as you guys are, in that they are getting the reality that the core values that supposedly they all shared werent shared, and their leaders were fooling them.you are like an iraqi trying to find a way to validate saddam hussien letting people starve while he built another palace.you are the iranian trying to find a reason not to sell out to us or israel.you are the lybian trying to explain how lybia was better when they were lied to.

the rest of us saw through the bullshit right off the bat.we made no quams about pointing it out, and we had alot of damn fun at your expense.and rightfully so.that is how in a polite society free speech allows us to steer ourselves straight.olberman calling her an idiot, when he doesnt do that to anyone else.katie couric mocking her for not being able to answer the most basic questions all public office holders are asked, that are known as soft balls.tina fey literally just reading palins exact words with no editing and having that be funny on its own.

we gave you every opportunity to learn, and you didnt.

now your party has collapsed.fractured to a point almost beyond repair, and has such little credibility, that the next outing after you had one embarssing person on a ticket, had an entire field of jokes.as that is what you get when you validate the joke, as opposed to laugh it off as you are supposed to.

so we had bachman doing her crazy, godfathers pizza trying to supersize the white house with an economic plan perfect for a pizza deal, and a bush knock off who publically was stoned on who knows what to such a degree he could barely stand, no less speak about any of the shit as president would be the basics.

you ended up with the twitchy ken doll who wasnt gunna win, cuz he was already trahsed by your own party years earlier with no repairs to it.

so she is a joke, and when you support her so are you.
only you still refuse to see it.which doesnt change what it is.

it has nothing to do with me liking the people she appeals to.

i dont like tyler perry either, but i dont think he isnt a joke, just as i dont think eric cantor is a joke.

a joke is a joke, if you get it or not, and my prejudice has nothing to do with it.
seeing russia from alaska as your national security criteria goes is the joke.

if your thinking.

have you ever watched portlandia by chance?
being as obsessed with the left as you are, you should.
maybe then you can see how it is done.how the left mocks its own bullshit, and we all laugh at the jokes, as opposed to trying to make them not what they are.

{seeing russia from alaska as your national security criteria goes is the joke.}

The media lied about that - that Palin claimed she could see Russia from her house. And you actually believed it?

{have you ever watched portlandia by chance?}

I had no idea what it was; had to look it up. Even if I were in America, I wouldn't watch such tripe.

"MY" party? I did not really realize there was a "Conservative Party" vying for high offices.

You are distorting: I do not support Palin as a political candidate, and just wrote that to a reasonable and rational person on a thread today.

I state what she represents to many people, and why LEFT-WINGERS HATE HER. It reveals the attitudes of LEFTISTS.

Yawn ...

She can always get a gig on "The Real Housewives of Atlanta." (LOL)

{She can always get a gig on "The Real Housewives of Atlanta."}

What is that? A movie? A radio show? Sorry, I am not au courant with People Magazine and such. Please let me know. Thanks.

No, she will always be the bete noire for Left-winger haters of America, their nemesis. The reminder of their moral turpitude, their prurience, their perfidity.

(Governor Palin was an immediate success, of course.}

An immediate success at WHAT? She was a failed (0.5) Governor, a failed VP Candidate, a failed FOX pundit ...

It's seems like a Paris Hilton type phenomenon. She's famous just for being famous. I don't see what else there ...

Hey, wait a minute. Is there a sex tape I don't know about?

Absurd

YOU try it, pal. Let me know when you run for governor of your state. She won in an "old-boys'" place, pal.

Your envy reeks. Any normal person would DREAM of having such failures.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

clearly you wouldnt watch such tripe as portlandia, as you have to appreciate the difference between the joke, and what isnt, which you seem to not be able to afford to for what ever reason.

you are doing yourself a disservice.not cuz i like portlandia, as they have a funny sketch here or there, but over all arnt my cup of tea.but every sketch mocks the hell out of the stuff you think is legit criticism.making you still not getting the joke, the rest of us are well over and have moved passed.

i dont make it your party, you do.time and time again.

it only reveals your usual bigotry looking for any reason to bash thoe you came to bash already.

that is called an excuse.

left wingers dont hate palin.if they did she wouldnt be merely a matter of poking fun, but she is.she is a joke.nothing more.and that is what you cant handle for what ever reason.

So true.

{She won [the Governorship] in an "old-boys'" place, pal.}

Ah ... OK, on that point you've got me. I was so caught up in the back and forth of more recent events that I overlooked her initial run for Governor. That was a real accomplishment. Moreover, from what little I know about it, I understand that she did run as a true outsider and reformer.

My oversight, and on that point I stand corrected. My apologies ...

Absurd

{not cuz i like portlandia}

But of course you do, and that is the point. Turn off the TV

{left wingers dont hate palin.}

Of course, of course they don't. They just rant and scream, they just rage and foam at the mouth, they put up obscene and derogatory pictures, they profane her religious beliefs, they demean her handicapped child, they speak about her body parts, they insist that she is a stupid failure......

Of course they do not hate, of course.....

You should hear what he says about Swedish women.

what is absurd is trying to defend the indefensible, and in this case you trying to make a joke more than what it is.so much so in the face of all of it all you can muster to offer in response, is dismissive "absurd"s in lue of any thought that is valid.

Sent you a message, please check.

Thank you,

no actually, i dont particularly like portlandia, which is why i mentioned that it is not cuz i like portlandia that im bringing it up.im not trying to sell you on some entertainment i personally like as tho you should too, but in lue of how i feel about portlandia, it is germain to the subject under discussion.

and no thank you, i will not turn off the tv, or i may find myself like you unaware of the common themes we know of, find value in its humor, and then could be claiming a sexual pun is what im all about, not able to get why it is funny that i want to be a tea bagger and tea bag the white house.

i prefer to stay in loop, know the concepts, and unlike you and palin, not be the constant joke through ignorance.

is that even a thing one can say anything about even in general terms?

what that they like to wear lederhosen or clog shoes?
big fans of holes in their cheese?

Governor Palin is an entrepreneur. She will have no problem. She does not "find jobs." She creates.

Every time I read your posts, I am reminded of just what it is that we on the Left need to continue to fight. Thanks for making yourself useful.

yeah she gives latenight Tv something to talk about thats for sure. Don't think she does anything for the country or the state that she was suppose to be working for. Well other than quit.

Envy plays a large part in Left-wingerism.

And this has actually been studied and reported by psychologists. The egalitarian impulse (the leveling impulse) is in virtually all cultures. The radicals - Leftists - actually believe that by redistributing wealth (the extreme form being their COMMUNISM) they can relieve society of this envy.

This is why I maintain and keep emphasizing a truth about Liberals today: They do not understand or accept human nature.

Ha! So perfect, yes you got it correct!

Ex-governor Palin could not even keep her own job.

Governor Palin CHOSE to leave, of course. Of over 300 MILLION people in the country, there are only 50 governors at any one time. Try it.

Sarah Palin was the GOVERNOR of a state, a GOVERNOR.

Try it, pal!

"Left do not envy Right wingers who believe the world is 6,000 years old"

I know of no Conservatives who believe that, of course, but the Left-wingers believe in their Arcadia, their Shangri-La, their chiliasm. This is the main problem with LIBERALS: They actually use those utopian ideal as the benchmark to which to compare the great nation of America. It falls short of this quixotic vision, of course, so they belittle, demean, malign and profane our great nation.

I did not try it, of course. But I am not stupid enough to criticize and person for actually DOING it.

Read some books. Turn off your TV.

Her "choice" to quit came after multiple allegations of ethics violations.

They were trumped up, and found to be forgeries. Don't you keep up?

{Doing what?}

I have no idea to what you are referring, comrade. Please reference your posts.

{Are you serious?}

Serious about what? Reference your posts, please.

{You, the one defending your hero Sarah Palin?}

"Hero?" Show me where I wrote anything like that. I describe the truth about Governor Sarah Palin to the envious and hateful Left-wingers on this thread. That is all. For the SEVENTH time, I clearly said that I do not think she should go out for national office. You are obsessing over her.

He just prove he's a communist, he called you "comrade." (LOL)

{If Sarah isn't your hero than why are you defending her so vociferously?}

Two main reasons I write what I do. (I do not acknowledge your continued distortions; in fact, they are really tiresome and boring. In this case, it is the last 4 words in that question: Inane, vapid distortion yet again.)

1. The mention of certain people brings out the true character of LEFT-WINGERS, and she is one. Others are Milton Friedman, the venerable Ronald Reagan, etc.

2. Palin actually does inspire and galvinize many. Why would CPAC have her speak at the convention otherwise? And when she did, the feral OWSers tried to break in - succeeding somewhat - to stop her speech. Why is that, pray tell? (Contrive something creative, OK? Some excuse to discount it as your Leftist training compels you.)

{could barely speak American English?}

A perfect example of absurdity and hate. Perfect. Just listen to her speech at the Republican convention or at CPAC, bub. If you want to compare her to some of the greatest speakers around today, go right ahead if that is a way that you feel can validly demean her. Go ahead.

{just because your psychiatrist spent years discussing "penis envy" with you}

Typical ploy of the Left. You have been well-trained. The LIBERAL vacuous tactic is to proclaim some sort of personal, sexual, psychological weakness, problem or dysfunction. I hope you realize how puerile it looks.

A surprise to see that name mentioned here.

I admit I only know "of" him (through his reputation at the university of Mainz) but haven't actually read any of his works. Time to change that, I think.

I wonder whether some of his ideas about "envy" and the impossibility of "equality" were perhaps shaped by his own personal experience of the Nazi idea of "gleichschaltung" -- levelling -- as a youth. (Did you know, for instance, that he was the only one in his school who refused to join the HJ?)

He may be thought of primarily as a "conservative" because of his attacks on leftwing policies in Germany, and because he wrote for a right-leaning newspaper there. but he seems to have been against totalitarianism of any stripe.

His willingness to challenge accepted mainstream ideas was certainly anything but conservative.

One for the booklist. Thanks.

Sedwin -- Schoeck was not a "right-winger" in the "Fox news" sense.

He was against totalitarianism of both the right and the left.

His refusal to join the Hitler Youth in a time when there was huge pressure to do so should tell you all you need to know about that. He also worked with the Allied Forces after WW2 to help shape the media landscape in Germany's nascent democracy.

Just because the title was suggested by a commenter you disagree with doesn't necessarily make it "right-wing tripe". It might even be interesting.

So, you call a scholary work by a German psychologist "right-wing tripe?"

Then you must know something about this classic, something about the content. You have really shown the kind of person you are to dismiss this book in the manner that you did, without knowing anything about it. This is the main reason that it is so difficult to respond to you. The 1/3 - 2/3 problem, the refusal to answer a simple question about how you supposedly know what the Japanese think, the distortions of a clear and succinct statement about obscenity and the First Amendment. Heck, you are obtuse enough to proclaim that the that because Bush or somebody used a curse word, that proves some kind of point. And you wrote that you have a minor in Constitutional law or something? I cannot keep up with the multitude of your achievements and accomplishments.

I do not know about the author, only that he has a scholarly reputation.

There really is not much about politics in the book. The author presents chapters of history and psychology of envy. He spend a lot of time citing anthropological studies of primitive peoples from all over the world on every continent to establish that envy is part of the human psyche - It exists in every culture, everywhere.

What is fascinating about the idea is how humans usually fear being envied and go to lengths to avoid or deflect it. Haven't you ever noticed that if you present or state something about yourself, you will often follow it up with something dismissive? Like "I was lucky," or "but Johnny, my friend, did it in half the time," etc.? This is instinctively to avoid envy.

The difference between envy and jealousy is interesting. With jealousy, the person DESIRES the object, and is aware of this. With envy, the person wants to DESTROY the owner of the object. For example, the guy down the road has a pool and a Mercedes. The jealous person will admit, "I really would like to have those things," and either admits he cannot or tries to figure out a way. The envious guy wishes harm, thinking, perhaps, that the owner will lose his job, or that his wife will leave him. He is sickly joyful if one of his kids gets in trouble or the car breaks down.

In more simple cultures, it actually become very dangerous.

The way it becomes political is the ideologies that claim that they can rid society of this malignant and malevolent emotion. The communists, for example, speak to greed (envy). They think that property is the origin, so if there is no property ownership, the emotion of greed will be amelioriated. But it will not, because it will just go someplace else - the level on the Party Presidium, influence, power, one's spouse, whatever.

{I typically read 3-6 books at a time}

As the venerable Ronald Reagan once said, "There you go again!"

{I have read plenty of criticisms of egalitarian and anti-capitalistic views especially when they approach them from the viewpoint of "envy."}

One can CLAIM that, but it is an entirely different thing to SHOW it via discussion, explanation, discourse.

{as you can watch or read any News Corp publication on any particular day and find this exact viewpoint expressed in plain terms.}

Illogical. The CPUSA approves of Obama's presidency and many of his policies. Does that mean that he is therefore a Communist? People on FOX news say that our Constitution is important. Does that mean that what they say should be dismissed? Or that they are the only ones who think this is so?

{What don't you understand about please disengage?}

Two points:

1. This is an open forum. If you want to have personal discussions with someone and not have other opinions, I suggest that you use Current's email system.

2. I understand the intent. You refuse to answer the question about how you know what you claim about what the Japanese think of Palin; you refuse to have a discussion - despite claiming to have a minor in the subject - about the Constitution (First Amendment) and obscenities. Therefore, I should not keep asking you.

I just want to have this in writing for the public record on this thread.

Not meagan!!!!!!!!!

PLEASE! Lol. .. :)