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Gun Owners Refuse to Register Under New York Law

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“Largest Act of Civil Disobedience in State History”

After Democrats in New York rammed a sweeping assault on the right to keep and bear arms through the legislature that failed to exempt police officers from the draconian restrictions, gun owners and even some lawmakers are planning what has been dubbed potentially the largest act of civil disobedience in state history. According to news reports, gun rights activists are urging everyone to defy far-left Governor Andrew Cuomo’s new registration mandate while daring authorities to “come and take it.”

Analysts say the legislation, passed in a frenzy last week in the wake of the Newtown shooting, represents the most brazen infringement on the right to keep and bear arms anywhere in the nation. Among other points, the so-called SAFE Act seeks to limit magazines to just seven bullets, require virtually all of the estimated one million semi-automatic rifles in the state to be registered with authorities, mandate reporting of patients who express indications that they may have thoughts about hurting themselves or others by doctors, and more.

Aside from being unconstitutional, experts on gun violence also point out that the draconian schemes are a bad idea: Studies have repeatedly shown that more guns lead to less crime, and the phenomenon is obvious across America — just compare Chicago or D.C. to Alaska or Wyoming. The mandated reporting requirements for doctors, meanwhile, have come under fire from across the political spectrum. Whether it will even be possible to enforce the bill, however, remains to be seen.

Preparations are already being made for mass resistance. “I’ve heard from hundreds of people that they’re prepared to defy the law, and that number will be magnified by the thousands, by the tens of thousands, when the registration deadline comes,’’ said President Brian Olesen with American Shooters Supply, among the biggest gun dealers in the state, in an interview with the New York Post.

Even government officials admit that forcing New Yorkers to register their guns will be a tough sell, and they are apparently aware that massive non-compliance will be the order of the day. “Many of these assault-rifle owners aren’t going to register; we realize that,’’ a source in the Cuomo administration told the Post, adding that officials expect “widespread violations” of the new statute.

Threats of imprisoning gun owners for up to a year and confiscating their weapons are already being issued by governor’s office, headed by a rabid anti-Second Amendment extremist who suggested before the bill passed that “confiscation” of all semi-automatic rifles was being considered. If tens or even hundreds of thousands of otherwise law-abiding citizens refuse to comply, however, analysts say New York would either have to start raising taxes and building a lot more prisons, or give up on the scheme that experts say will do nothing to reduce violence and that lawmakers say is aimed at eventual confiscation.

Activists involved in the state-wide boycott against the unconstitutional statute who spoke to the Post almost taunted authorities, saying gun owners would essentially dare authorities to “come and take it away.” According to the paper, leaders of some of the state’s hundreds of gun clubs, dealers, and non-profit organizations, citing the New York Constitution’s guarantee that gun rights “cannot be infringed,” are currently involved in organizing the resistance. Among the primary concerns is that, with registration, authorities would know where to go for confiscation, an idea already proposed openly by Governor Cuomo himself.

“They’re saying, ‘F--- the governor! F--- Cuomo! We’re not going to register our guns,’ and I think they’re serious. People are not going to do it. People are going to resist,” explained State Rifle and Pistol Association President Tom King, who also serves on the National Rifle Association board of directors. “They’re taking one of our guaranteed civil rights, and they’re taking it away.”

The NRA itself, while saying that it did not participate in organizing resistance to the law, admitted that it was not surprised by the open defiance among gun owners. “I will say this: Historic experience here and in Canada shows that when you try to force gun owners into a registration and licensing system, there’s usually mass opposition and mass noncompliance,” NRA President David Keene told the Post. “I think it’s going to be very difficult for the governor to get mass compliance with this new law.”

Throughout the short discussion on the bill, GOP legislators warned about the prospect of resistance — potentially resulting in violence. Indeed, even some lawmakers have already promised to defy the new unconstitutional statute. Republican state Assemblyman Steve Katz, for example, told his colleagues during the debate that the legislation’s attempt to re-define semi-automatic rifles as banned “assault weapons” creates “a new class of criminals overnight.” However, he also mentioned that he had no intention of complying with the arbitrary seven-bullet maximum demanded under the legislation.

“I leave my wife and three young daughters home alone for days at a time to represent my constituents here,” Katz said on the floor of the Assembly. “After what happened to the young mother in Loganville, Georgia who defended her two young children against an intruder, this bill will turn me into a criminal because you can bet that before I leave to do the people’s work, there will be more than seven bullets in the magazine of my wife’s firearm.”

He concluded his plea for respecting gun rights with some quotes about the reason for the Second Amendment and New York state’s even more overt prohibition on infringements. The first one he read came from George Washington: “A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.”

As in the rest of the United States, law enforcement has also been speaking out about infringements on the right to keep and bear arms — especially after the SAFE Act was rammed through so hastily that, according to analysts, "oops," police officers are now in violation of the law too. New York sheriffs have become outspoken about the rights of citizens, as well, expressing serious concerns about violations of unalienable rights contained in the new state statute.

"This law has some issues pertaining to the Second Amendment," explained Putnam County Sheriff Donald Smith, one of many to express reservations about the new rules. "I'm deeply concerned in haste to pass the law, they may have missed the point on some of the mental health issues and are dealing with some ammunition and gun issues and law-enforcement issues."

Steuben County Sheriff David Cole, meanwhile, released a statement backed by the local police union criticizing the highly controversial statute as well. "These laws will now make it so thousands and thousands of law-abiding citizens, who go to work, pay their taxes, and [are] concerned about their children's future, will now be considered criminals if they choose to stand up for the Second Amendment rights guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution," Sheriff Cole noted, echoing widespread concerns being heard throughout the state....
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119 comments // Gun Owners Refuse to Register Under New York Law

  • NYVoter
  • Tayllerand
    • -1
      Tayllerand  

    • Every 24 minutes a person dies in America from prescribed drugs ( Painkillers,Anti-depressants) no one seems to care, but as soon there is a shooting or a problem with weapons, gun haters start crying WOLF,WOLF,WOLF.

      The End.
      PS(MMMMMMEEEEEEEOOOOOOOWWWWW)

    • 4 months ago
  • alexandrekBack
  • Dagum
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      Dagum  
    • alexandrekBack:

      There are not enough prisons in existence to jail all the gun owners refusing to comply with the new law. You're going to have to start advocating for the building of mass concentration camps in New York to imprison all the resident that will not comply with this law, if you want to see this law enforced...

    • 4 months ago
  • alexandrekBack
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      alexandrekBack  
    • Dagum:

      that sounds like a great business opportunity, lots ofjob too, building, feeding, managing new jails, all private!

      Such a huge market, such a giant pot of cash, that might just turned the Rep very Anti-gun in a split second.

      imagine, instead of a few hundred dolls for a gun, is hundreds per day per owner, this is best news!

    • 4 months ago
  • Dagum
  • alexandrekBack
  • dugdog47
  • Dagum
    • 0
      Dagum  
    • alexandrekBack:

      "drug does, isn't it?"

      And look how that turned out? Millions of U.S. citizens incarcerated generations of families torn apart because a spouse or both parents in jail, ex-convicts unable to get jobs because they have a criminal record, unemployed ex-cons ending up on the welfare. It's destructive to the economy. The war on drugs and criminalizing possession of drugs is a failure. So too weapons.

      Criminalizing mere possession of Anything is destructive to society. The cost of policing possession crimes, and the unintended or unforeseen side effects outweigh any benefits.

      It's when you do something wrongful with the item you possess, that should be criminal.

    • 4 months ago
  • alexandrekBack
  • alexandrekBack
    • +1
      alexandrekBack  
    • Dagum:

      so let's stop jailing drug dealers? that's your view, let it all be free, drug, sex, guns, a NY1997 turning true, a US somalia like, anarchey and all free, for the love of guns?

    • 4 months ago
  • dugdog47
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      dugdog47  
    • alexandrekBack:

      Ding ding ding! You win a cigar!

      Yes, the similaritys of Hitler to king Barry are striking! Hitler said Jews were the problem, and small minded sheep like you agreed.

      King Barry says gun owners are the problem, and small minded sheep like you agree.

      Yeah, I'm sure things like history, freedom, and liberty seem stupid to you, you're a communist. I've been called stupid, crazy, anarchist, racist, and worse.

      Why?

      Because I believe in freedom? I don't want the government to take care of me?

      Self suffiency is what made this nation great. People like me pay taxes that support communists like you.

    • 4 months ago
  • alexandrekBack
  • Paratus
    • -1
      Paratus  
    • alexandrekBack:

      How do you feel about putting people in jail for possession of marijuana which is not a civil right? People who advocate putting folk in a camp for not registering their firearms are our true enemies. Whatever happens to them, as long as it is negative, is to the benefit of the country.

    • 4 months ago
  • dugdog47
  • Paratus
  • Paratus
  • Dagum
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      Dagum  
    • alexandrekBack:

      No because murder would still be illegal, so would robbery and theft.

      That's the point I'm getting at. Mere possession of something shouldn't be a crime. Doing something wrong with what you possess should be a crime and is.

    • 4 months ago
  • alexandrekBack
  • alexandrekBack
    • +1
      alexandrekBack  
    • dugdog47:

      I am socialist at hearth, born French, from a family of leftist, it is just that our socialism is not the Americans biased cliche.
      we just want the right to a decent life for all, any worker should be able to afford a roof, 3 meals a day, education for its children and access to health care.
      That.s what is socialism, a universal solidarity, in France, you can have a PHD without paying a dime for it, free medicine, and a social friendly environment.

      No miradors, no goulag, no dictator

    • 4 months ago
  • alexandrekBack
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      alexandrekBack  
    • Paratus:

      you certainly should,
      Hitler restrained gun access to targeted minorities only, that is what was wrong, Obama and Biden will restrict to all in a beautiful egalitarian American way.
      That's the sort of "details" who makes the differences between a free country like America and a Nazi dictatorship.
      hence the reason the references to hitler wrong, biased, tactless and ignorant

    • 4 months ago
  • Dagum
  • Dagum
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      Dagum  
    • alexandrekBack:

      American socialism must be much different than French socialism.

      Most of the hard-core Socialists here in America are armed to the teeth and truly believe that "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.".

    • 4 months ago
  • alexandrekBack
  • alexandrekBack
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      alexandrekBack  
    • Dagum:

      "That creates a superclass of citizens exempt from the laws" that is the best definition of the American dream turned the todays nightmare.
      let be honest, when did a poor black man had the same right as a rich white man, in real life, not in theory!

    • 4 months ago
  • alexandrekBack
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      alexandrekBack  
    • Dagum:

      Most of the hard-core Republicans here in America are armed to the teeth and truly believe that "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.".

      Most of the hard-core NRAist here in America are armed to the teeth and truly believe that "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.".

      Most of the hard-core tea partyist here in America are armed to the teeth and truly believe that "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.".

      ettc

    • 4 months ago
  • Dagum
  • Dagum
    • 0
      Dagum  
    • alexandrekBack:

      Many people own guns in America. It's part of our culture. France wasn't settled by the gun.

      But the United States the cowboys,frontiersmen, western expansion was done by the gun. Guns are in our media, in Movies on TV everyday. Guns are just part of who Americans are, Virtually part of our DNA.

      Very different culture from Europe.

    • 4 months ago
  • alexandrekBack
  • Dagum
    • 0
      Dagum  
    • alexandrekBack:

      Disarmament is devolution. And will lead to serfdom. I bet the police and ruling classes of Europe have all sort of weapons. As do the mafias/cartels. And the ruling class of China is a perpetual human rights violating oligarchy.

      No, the U.S. will not take a step backward to the middle ages when the peasants couldn't have weapons and only the royals, the nobles and their cronies were armed and could do whatever they wanted to the disarmed peasants.

    • 4 months ago
  • Paratus
    • 0
      Paratus  
    • alexandrekBack:

      "i don't consider Marijuana as a drug, it's a raw green unprocessed natural plant, it's a creation of God and nature.
      Crack, Heroin are drugs"

      Interesting rational. I suppose the fact that the ingredients in the plant exert an influence on a persons mind and body is immaterial in your reasoning?
      Does the processing of the poppy into heroin make the poppy a drug? Well our esteemed president has made a mockery of the rule of law so I suppose, using that as a litmus, all laws are subjective. This could see negative results on liberals.

    • 4 months ago
  • Paratus
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      Paratus  
    • alexandrekBack:

      "we just want the right to a decent life for all, any worker should be able to afford a roof, 3 meals a day, education for its children and access to health care. "

      You have the same right to these things that everyone else has. The right to provide them. You do not have the right to have these things provided by the government at a cost to others. These are not inherent rights. They are things you provide to yourself and y our family as a result of your labors. Mandating other people to provide these things to you infringes on those persons rights.

    • 4 months ago
  • Paratus
  • Paratus
  • alexandrekBack
  • alexandrekBack
  • Dagum
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      Dagum  
    • alexandrekBack:

      You've never fired a weapon in your life, have you?

      Guns really aren't that scary. Maybe you should try it before making personal attacks and calling everyone else idiots who disagree with you. Might get you over your fear of the sight guns.

    • 4 months ago
  • alexandrekBack
  • Dagum
  • alexandrekBack
    • 0
      alexandrekBack  
    • Dagum:

      no security training neither knowledge of.
      Majority of people would not be able to use properly their weapon under stress, attacks, they will mostly shot their wife by accident than a burglar

    • 4 months ago
  • Dagum
    • 0
      Dagum  
    • alexandrekBack:

      What's the basis for that opinion? Unlike other countries Americans have had and used guns for nearly 300 years.

      Why do you think they are now suddenly unable to use them properly?

    • 4 months ago
  • alexandrekBack
  • kvb1
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      kvb1  

    • In US v. Miller and DC v. Heller, the Supreme Court ruled that the government has the right to limit the type of weapons that can be for sale, who can own them, and where they can be carried.

      Justice Antonin Scalia, writing for the majority in DC v. Heller, "Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited," he stated. "The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms."

      The NY law will pass the SC standard as set by the conservative court.

    • 4 months ago
  • Dagum
    • 0
      Dagum  
    • kvb1:

      It's a fundamental right so it gets strict scrutiny which means it is almost guaranteed to fail Constitutional scrutiny because it not even close to being narrowly tailored.

      Moreover the law is violation of the New York Constitution protecting the right to bear arms.

      Add in the fact that the law will get little-to-no compliance making it more of an embarrassment to keep on the books than anything else.

    • 4 months ago
  • dugdog47
  • gypsysailor
    • 0
      gypsysailor  

    • Alaska and Wyoming have far fewer people than Chicago or DC. Thanks for playing. Try again? Having said that, the New York law is way over the top.

    • 4 months ago
  • dugdog47
  • Paratus
  • dugdog47
  • Paratus
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      Paratus  
    • dugdog47:

      "I think the NRA should go on the offense. "

      I stopped sending money to the NRA some years ago and told them that the reason is that they are not aggressive enough in countering the anti gun b.s. There IS NO COMPROMISE in this matter. Gun owners have been the whipping boys for the left every time some moron shoots up the town. Gun control does not work. Punishing those who would not do crime and/or making many instant criminals for not begging the government for permission to own what is an inherent right is lunacy. I cannot express my contempt in suitable words for those who would espouse this as a panacea for violence, turning people into victims for the criminals. We need to fight.

    • 4 months ago
  • hombre76
  • Paratus
  • DianaCancer
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      DianaCancer  

    • It is astounding to see so many apparently clued in to the increadible corruption, greed, and abuse of power in our government and corporate America, yet the willingness to give this government/CA more power and the abilty to use force at the expense of the people. Totally illogical, unless?, this is partisan team politics which is known for its selfish, self-destructive short term thinking and temporary brain death. As if the state of things right now will exist forever.
      Let me guess that our next 8 year backlash President will be an extremeist right wing christian who will send left wingers heading for the hills, and pissing themselves along the way screamin "our rights! we have rights!"
      To see so many of you played,,unreal.

    • 4 months ago
  • NYVoter
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      NYVoter  
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    • Actually , the majority of Americans (incl Military and Law Enforcement) support the 2nd Amendment and stand against an Assault Weapon Ban and Hi-Cp Mag Ban.
      Sorry if that conflicts with your Liberal paranoid views .
      Anti Gun fanatics innocently claim that “No one wants to take your Guns away” , why are you afraid to Register them ? .. The fact is , advocates of "gun control" eventually want all Guns Confiscated …Gov Cuomo even admitted it. They say that every "gun control" measure they support is merely a "reasonable" step that would not infringe on the 2nd Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens to shoot, hunt, or protect themselves from violent crime. Gun owners have learned the hard way that these Politicians can’t be trusted . Anyone inclined to trust these claims would be wise to study the history of firearms registration in New York City.

      NYC 1967 –Gun owners were told that the new Laws would not affect them , it was just for registration. Years later they took that list and started Banning & Confiscating them.
      Gun owners were lied to –they were forced to either turn them in to the NYPD or sell them.
      Here are the facts - http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/fact-sheets/2000/firearms-registration-new-yor...
      They did it again gain in California 1989 – Article - “ First Registration, Then Confiscation”
      By Tanya Metaksa
      FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, July 12, 2001 http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=23707
      Hurricane Katrina Confiscation - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4

      http://jpfo.org/kirby/kirby-confiscation-good.htm

    • 4 months ago
  • BrushwithDeathToothpaste
    • +2
      BrushwithDeathToothpaste  

    • The majority of Americans do not want assault weapons in the hands of individuals. Sorry if that ruins the closing scene of your fictional movie "Last stand against the fascist police state"

      This law is a measure to stop the flow of assault weapons. Not a measure to confiscate them. But feel free to take to the streets and wave them around. It will make it easier to arrest your ass.

    • 4 months ago
  • hombre76
  • Radical_Centrist
  • wally60
    • +1
      wally60  

    • http://happen.no

      what did people expect to happen.now we will throw good people in jail this is how it works .good to see the cops dont agree with this.but if we put a quarter million people in jail look at what the stocks in prisons will do and do these lawmakers own stocks in prisons?

    • 4 months ago
  • NYVoter
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      NYVoter  
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    • New York State Sheriffs’ Association Has Evaluated Cuomo’s New Gun Law ..They agree with us , They don’t Like It
      FINALLY a NY State Law Enforcement Agency speaks out ,defends our rights , and questions this Law .
      Also , look at the Headline the Liberals gave this article ..they downplayed the Sheriffs confirming that they will not search Homes and they will defend the Constitution .
      When Law Enforcement comes out against a Law and How it was done …you know there’s a problem.
      Albany better wake up and repeal this Assault Weapons Ban and reinstate the Grandfather clause for hi Capacity Magazines that were legally owned.
      - We have reviewed other provisions of the new law, and strongly believe that modifications are needed to clarify the intent of some of these new provisions and that revisions are needed to allow Sheriffs to properly enforce the law in their counties.
      • Assault weapon ban and definition of assault weapons. We believe that the new definition of assault weapons is too broad, and prevents the possession of many weapons that are legitimately used for hunting, target shooting and self defense. Classifying firearms as assault weapons because of one arbitrary feature effectively deprives people the right to possess firearms which have never before been designated as assault weapons. We are convinced that only law abiding gun owners will be affected by these new provisions, while criminals will still have and use whatever weapons they want.
      • Reduction of ammunition magazine capacity. The new law enacts reductions in the maximum capacity of gun magazines. We believe based on our years of law enforcement experience that this will not reduce gun violence. The new law will unfairly limit the ability of law‐abiding citizens to purchase firearms in New York. It bears repeating that it is our belief that the reduction of magazine capacity will not make New Yorkers or our communities safer.
      • Method of bill passage. It is the view of the Sheriffs’ Association that anytime government decides it is necessary or desirable to test the boundaries of a constitutional right that it should only be done with caution and with great respect for those constitutional boundaries. Further, it should only be done if the benefit to be gained is so great and certain that it far outweighs the damage done by the constriction of individual liberty. While many of the provisions of the new law have surface appeal, it is far from certain that all, or even many, of them will have any significant effect in reducing gun violence, which is the presumed goal of all of us. Unfortunately the process used in adoption of this act did not permit the mature development of the arguments on either side of the debate, and thus many of the stakeholders in this important issue are left feeling ignored by their government. Even those thrilled with the passage of this legislation should be concerned about the process used to secure its passage, for the next time they may find themselves the victim of that same process. Fortunately, the Governor has shown himself open to working with interested parties to address some of the problems that arose due to the hasty enactment of this law. We will work with the Governor and the Legislature on these issues.
      • Sheriffs understand their Constitutional obligations and the concerns of constituents Sheriffs and other law enforcement officers are not called upon by this new legislation to go door‐to‐door to confiscate any weapons newly classified as assault weapons, and will not do so.
      Sheriffs represent all the people, and we take an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of New York. Sheriffs will continue to enforce all laws of the state and will protect the rights of all citizens, including those rights guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of New York.
      http://www.wktv.com/news/local/New-York-State-Sheriffs-Associations-Offical-Resp...

    • 4 months ago
  • NYVoter
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      NYVoter  

    • Gun Control’s “Battle of the Bulge” grinding to a halt ?
      Law Enforcement across the Country are telling Washington they will NOT enforce new AWB Gun Laws.
      States passing Laws preventing Federal Gun Bans from being enforced.
      Millions of Gun owners Nationwide and even some lawmakers are planning what has been dubbed potentially the largest act of civil disobedience in history.
      Result ? Washington woke up and is looking for a way to calm things down and back peddle out of their Liberal Gun Grab.
      They didn’t expect us to respond like this …they thought they could just jam a new a Law through .
      So now they “Dance” and try to save face while backing off.
      http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/27/us/politics/obama-says-gun-control-advocates-s...

    • 4 months ago
  • coolplanet
    • +1
      coolplanet  

    • My best bud is an ex-Marine who lives in upstate NY.
      We talk a lot about this issue.
      He understands that the Second Amendment is all about 'a well-regulated militia' and that semi-automatic rifles should not be in the hands of civilians.
      Yet he is refusing to register his guns.
      I try to explain that the Founders were referring to muskets and 'a well-regulated militia'.
      He agrees that automatic weapons shouldn't be in the hands of dumbfucks and told me that Chris Rock has the best solution: Make bullets for automatic guns so expensive that only the military (taxpayers) can afford them.
      I totally agree.

    • 4 months ago
  • oldbanjo
    • +1
      oldbanjo  
    • coolplanet:

      That would only effect a few gun owners, I don't own an AR15 but I have no doubt that most people that do own them have no need for additional ammo, because they know that stupid people would make suggestions like this.

    • 4 months ago
  • tgace
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      tgace  

    • Our district attorney pleads out violent felonies and we think prosecutors across the state are going to start locking up people whose first offense is going to be refusal to register their constitutionally protected right? Good luck with that.

    • 4 months ago
  • MSII
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      MSII  
    • tgace:

      Why do they plead out guilty offenders? Because there's been so many mandated sentences for very small (personal) quantities of pot, judges are forced by over-crowding (because of these "war-on-drug" lunatic policies) in prisons to throw these people back on streets. Then there's the numbers of mentally ill that have been thrown into the prison-system... that's an entirely other issue.

    • 4 months ago
  • Culdee
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      Culdee  

    • I fail to see why the governor Cuomo has turned law-abiding citizens into criminals. They know this too. Here's why...

      The reason NY lawmakers didn't jump straight to assault weapon confiscation was a *strategic* one. They dialed back the severity of the legislation to give the pseudo-impression that it was more moderate---that they are merely asking you to registure, not confiscate, your assault weapon.

      However, once the weapon is registured, they know you have it. Registration was only phase 1 of their long-term goal: confiscation. If they attempted confiscation right off the bat, it would come accross radically extreme and nobody would comply. Merely requiring registration first allows them a foot in the door and a much easier shot at enforcement when confiscation comes down the road.

    • 4 months ago
  • cmc101
  • hombre76
  • cmc101
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      cmc101  
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    • hombre76:

      yes they do show
      I pay my bills and all my taxes with no argument

      I register to vote ,to be a member of a political party,to be a dues paying member of a union, my car is licensed and the insurance is paid I have driver licensed
      I must lock up things just to keep honest people honest
      yet the real thieves are stealing my retirement
      feeding poison to my children
      destroying my water supply
      forcing the less fortunate to work in deplorable conditions that some ass thinks that they don't like it then leave

    • 4 months ago
  • hombre76
  • Paratus
  • alexandrekBack
  • hombre76
  • alexandrekBack
  • Paratus
  • jackhole
  • dugdog47
  • Paratus
    • -1
      Paratus  

    • Outstanding! I hope this catches on exponentially. If I were on a jury and the defendant in the trial was charged with violating this SAFE Act. b.s. I would find them not guilty. If the voters have any sense they will kick Coumo to the curb in the next election. He is not a good example.

    • 4 months ago
  • NYVoter
    • +1
      NYVoter  

    • So , the Liberals think they Finally “defeated” the great Evil NRA (those money making capitalists) and showed the NY Gun Owners how fast our rights can be taken away.

      They can enjoy it, for now …but when the party’s over , they should read up on how prohibition worked out.
      Then think about the 100’s of Thousands/millions of unregistered Rifles/Shotguns/Pistols with Hi-Capacity Mags that will now be worth a fortune on the Black Market.
      They’ll come in from small towns and cities across the State ..and all end up on NYC Streets . Why the Cities you ask ?
      The major Drug Dealers/Gangs & Criminals are all there , and they can afford to pay top dollar ..and soon they’ll have the latest in Hi-tech Assault Weapons to chose from.
      Cuomo did away with the Grandfather Clause that allowed us to keep the Hi-Cap magazines we legally owned ..the State is now mandating that we sell them out of State.
      NY has no idea what people own so , imagine how many of those Magazines will also end up on the Streets ,with those Criminals.
      And they were all so paranoid about the NRA & “Gun Nuts”
      Hey ! They got what they wanted
      Enjoy the party

    • 4 months ago
  • oldbanjo
  • MSII
  • Paratus
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      Paratus  
    • MSII:

      "Now you've gone and shown yourself for who you really are, another right-wing ideologue. Cut and paste from Faux Noise."

      No, a person who believes in freedom. For some reason many here think that because they would not have an opinion unless it is proffered by MSNBC, or media matters, any idea that smacks of freedom or the Constitution is "Faux Noise". Wrong. The left wing can worship at the alter of state supremacy if they wish. They have good company with the communist party USA, and Chinas government. Those wishing to take our freedoms are a danger to those freedoms and our country. In fact, they are a greater danger than any islamic nut job.

    • 4 months ago
  • MSII
  • cmc101
  • dugdog47
  • cmc101
    • +1
      cmc101  
    • dugdog47:

      it was not
      it was anyone that disagree with McCarthy was black balled
      and was prevented to ever hold an job in the united states .
      He only needed to mention socialism and the companies would discharge immediately
      people feared him as bad as a welfare whore until,Edward R. Murrow nailed his ass

    • 4 months ago
  • Paratus
  • Paratus
  • MSII
  • MSII
  • cmc101
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      cmc101  
    • MSII:

      some body is behind time Reagan was for gun control and bands
      and those do not remember Reagan and Brady being shot had to miss civics class that day

    • 4 months ago
  • MSII
    • +2
      MSII  
    • cmc101:

      Well you know it's never really about what their saint-reagan ACTUALLY did, or said, but what the holy-gospel-according-to-Faux-Noise-says he said and did. Facts don't ever distress the right-wing-corporate-FASCIST-partiers, it's all about their "beliefs".

    • 4 months ago
  • cmc101
    • +1
      cmc101  
    • MSII:

      advertisers spend a lot to get their products sold
      but what the holy-gospel-according-to-Faux-Noise-says keeps them the NO.1
      and the people need their daily fix of testosterone of manhood even tho it is pure lies

    • 4 months ago
  • MSII
  • cmc101
  • jackhole
  • dugdog47
  • bailey78
  • cmc101
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