{He asked a rhetorical question, followed by some folks in the back shouting "2nd Amendment!". But I would hardly call that 'heckling'.}

Exactly. In fact, the first time he asked, nobody even responded. He turned around and asked once more and got a response. It was not heckling at all but simply an answer to his question.

{he wasn't shocked or outraged by hearing the response, he acknowledged their opinion and continued with his statement.}

Yes, that is true. He showed no outrage or anger or sadness. He even seemed to recognize this as valid (or at least indifferent to it).

{This is bullshit sensationalism.}

You are right. I have previously posted a video - I will try to find it - in which a daughter actually SAW her parents murdered by a crazy person who kept reloading his gun in Texas, killing everyone he could. She became a doctor and was very articulate. She lamented the fact that she had been given a pistol and left it at home. She was a supporter of the Second Amendment.

Any normal and reasonable person will be saddened for this man's loss and grieve for him; many closer will support him. His grief should not be USED, however, as a pretext for an agenda that is very clear.

Again, you are right. You will be criticized and condemned for being heartless, simply because you do not go along with the agenda that the anti-gun people have. Please do not be daunted and continue to support our Bill of Rights.

I do not own a gun. I have been shot myself. I joined the NRA. I am with you!

"His grief should not be USED, however, as a pretext for an agenda that is very clear."

Agreed. Voted up.

Right ! Emotional card played over and over. Red meat for the rabid. He asked a question and got an answer.
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L/R wingers have extremely short attention spans, are impatient, have lost the abilty to think critcally, jumping to conclusions, knee jerking to emotion, and above all have a selective filter that only lets in information that supports their beliefs.

This site is getting terrible. I have 2 comments supporting what I said and all of them are in the negatives including my statement and no one dares to comment. Bitch ass drive by downvoters. Grow a pair you pussies.

No, it would explain why you refused to answer my question about how you drew conclusions about what you CLAIM the Japanese people think. How you know. How you proclaimed what you did. I am still waiting for an answer.....

Pot-Kettle-Black

Yes, it is sensationalism pure and simple.
I listened to the video, and he asked whether anyone in the room could provide a reason for owning such weapons -- some responded (it did not even sound aggressive) with "2nd amendment". While I may not agree with their views, I did not consider their responses "heckling" at all.

So says the guy who is trying to politicize the debate based on the deaths of those children.

Really?

That is an accurate perception.

I disagree. I think ALEC fights for gun rights because it is one of the few truly polarizing issues left to appeal to their base. The GOP is so far from its principals that abortion and guns are just about all they have left keeping their roles going to the voting booths.

ALEC is an engine by and for The Koch Bros.Corporate interests. "Gun Rights" is a wedge issue. I think we may actually be in agreement, sort of. But The GOP is to them just a convenient tool, hardly "their base" A disposable tool too, you betcha.

please take the time to actually watch the exchange. I think you will agree that he was not being heckled and the guys were not being disrespectful. The victims father asked a question and waited for a response. The "Hecklers" didn't answer the question out of respect. The victim's father then says"See... no one can answer that question!" to which the "hecklers" replied albeit briefly. They didn't even have to be asked to quiet down as they were already quite by the time the chair could even react.

You are right. The man was not being "heckled." People responded to a question that he asked. The man actually turned around to the audience, repeated the question and paused.

The "shame" here is the fact that NBC/MSNBC has once again been caught red-handed doctoring audit/video in order to push a false narrative and people just unquestioningly lap it up. How many times does this have to happen before people stop falling for it so eagerly? Give the confirmation bias a rest and try exercising a modicum of skepticism. Equally shameful is the fact that those who point out the deception are the ones being downvoted. Apparently honesty is just flat out of fashion here.

They are definitely crazies; so hateful!

Did you even watch the exchange? I bet you didn't

While I agree with nearly everything you are saying and it is all spot on, I still don't think you watch the actual exchange either. That said good on you for calling it how it is. Weapons of mass distraction while elephants and asses screw over the masses.

{What's the difference between these guys and the Westboro Baptist Church because frankly I can't see any?}

Illogical. Read my comments.

I suppose you would like to see the "Fairness in Broadcasting" Act reinstated so that the GOVERNMENT can control the media.

Nobody reads your inane comments - hadn't you realized that yet?

- "What's the difference between these guys and the Westboro Baptist Church because frankly I can't see any?"

Perhaps if you weren't so easily duped by yet another NBC/MSNBC dishonestly edited video you might see the difference.

The video has since been exposed as dishonestly edited by MSNBC, and no one was either heckled or interrupted. And your hypocrisy in decrying "hateful" people while in the same breath branding them as "crazies" would be funny were it not so pathetic.

Oh I don't doubt that. It wouldn't surprise me. MSNBC and Fox News are chock full of propaganda intended to keep people fighting and hating each other. Assuming you are correct, is it safe to assume that since you provided this information to me that you knew that at the time of my comment that I didn't realize this? If so, then what was the motivation for your personal attack (which could not logically follow from the aforementioned assumption -- if these people were not being hateful then obviously my criticism would no longer apply -- and generally speaking, it is not hypocritical to criticize people who are hateful)? Did your emotions just get the better of you? I'm just curious. I am currently focusing a lot of my energy on learning about how people are purposely divided. Are you a victim of this partisan illusion, or were you actually participating in it knowingly?

{And no the government didn't control the media when the act was in effect for decades.}

Word games. It did not control it when that Gestapo regulation was around, but in effect it did, of course. And you know it.

Radio stations were faced with a choice: They had to "balance" the news. First question is WHO the f.... decides what is balanced, pal??? By what criteria? By WHOSE criteria?

Next, the people were not listening to LEFT-WINGER radio. That is why it failed when the GESTAPO LEFTIST UNfairness in Broadcasting was gone!

So, a station knows that if they "balance" the news (put in Liberal garbage that nobody wants to hear), they will lose listeners (therefore sponsors, remember the free market). So, they simply have no such broadcasts that the GOVERNMENT is going to monitor and supervise and tell them to "balance."

Typical of the Left: Get the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT in to monitor CORRECT SPEECH.

Any more recommendations to support our FIRST AMENDMENT???

"They are definitely crazies; so hateful!"

And in your reply to sedwin you seem to be in favor of eliminating News Corp and Rush evidently because you don't like the message. So much for the hate your have for freedom of speech. Definitely crazy.

I didn't reply to that comment by sedwin about News Corp and Limbaugh. I personally never said anything about "eliminating" anyone or taking action to limit anyone's free speech whether or not it is hateful. So, what motivated your comment?

I think you might have just read the conversation between Mishima and sedwin and projected some of those thoughts on me. It was probably just an honest mistake on your part. I don't think you were trying to troll me (which is why I am taking the time to respond to you). Further convsersation may reveal otherwise, but I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt for now.

For the record, I am not in favor of limiting individual free speech at all. I dislike people who hate other people for silly reasons, but they should still be allowed to express themselves. We would be better off with a more honest media however, so people can make informed choices. Personally I think one of the goals of our current media is to just make people hate each other. The way wedge issues are framed now, it's so easy just to put a label on someone and discard everything they say.

Also, I support the 2nd amendment. However, I will not participate in the curent partisan bickering over it because I really do believe that this issue is currently being used as a wedge issue to divide the people. It is my opinion that this is the whole point of the current argument. Politicians and the media do not want any solution whatsoever. The goal is just to keep people divided. We just get propaganda from both sides intended to reach this end.

If you read my comments in the future, you'll need to remove your partisan glasses and see me as an individual if you goal is to be sincere.

{YOU claimed falsely, as you always do, that the GOVERNMENT would control the media under the act. That is a blatant lie.}

Nope. The FCC was empowered to make specific requirements in their broadcasting: Divergent political views. You need to read up on the stuff before you write something like that. In this Gestapo act, the term "controversal public issues" was used. It is a manifest attack on free speech. Left-wingers want it because they hate divergent views and fear alternate sources that reveal LEFTIST distortions, perfidity and deceit, sources that expose the LEFT-WINGER agenda.

My father called me from Florida to tell me how it was all fake and I had to correct him because one I have an associate that knows one of the families that lost a daughter. The fact that this easily discredited lie continues to be popular is disgusting.

The utility of the "Big Lie" demonstrated. And did you know that Hitler's Final Solutioin" was a fabrication too?

Just in case, that was a snark - NOT a position!

Query "The 14 Characteristics of Fascism
by Lawrence Britt "

This was not a demonstration. I am not saying that "Big Lies" do not occur, but dead people with families and an entire community of grieving friends is not one of the examples that you speak of.

{they think all of the parents are actors and the kids are fake.}

Not true.

"My father called me from Florida to tell me how it was all fake and I had to correct him because....." "it was all fake' being the 'big lie' to which I referred. You do go off in strange directions.The denial of the final solution was a famous "Big lie", by the way. The "snark" to which I referred. I think you are reading me upside down.
Denial of "dead people with families and an entire community of grieving friends" is an example of a big lie.
No comment required.

I think I may have misunderstood what you were saying.

I won't pretend to be the clearest thinker or speaker on the planet, so I don't mind being told when I go "fuzzy". : )

No problem. :)

I very often laugh when I am nervous. It is something that some people do to cope with unbearable situations. The fact that Robbie Parker was seen laughing proves nothing. In fact it is just another victimization of the poor man to accuse him of being an actor with nothing more than what could have been his own natural nervous reaction.

Listen to the video. He was not "heckled." Read my posts, please.

Listen to the video. Nobody heckled. A question was asked; there was a pause, and some provided answers. Now, I don't agree with those answers, and it is more than likely that the speaker did not agree with them either -- but "heckling" it wasn't, by any stretch of the imagination.

{gun laws, like car insurance, should be up to the states not the federal government.}

As a Conservative, the position that the power that is relegated to the states, as in our Constitution, is emphasized and central to the Conservative position. But notice that there are enumerated powers in the Constitution for the federal government, and those not enumerated are within the power of the states. Left-wingers have undermined this already, of course, and caused much damage in the process.

That said, this is one time in which the federal government DOES have the power, not the individual states. There is room for background checks and such, but not to take away our CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT AS CLEARLY STATED.

That would be akin to denying racial groups the right to vote.

I agree. - I don't care if it was NRA supporters or if it was Code Pink - makes no difference. Human decency and sensitivity to another's pain - which separates us from many other, higher-ordered, animal species - is the order of the day. Gladly, this mourning, grieving father was numb to their idiocy.

Welcome to Hartford. We're the city where a dude got hit by a car in broad daylight and everyone went about their business like he wasn't even there. There are some good people in CT but there are some real assholes too. Like everywhere, I guess.

{Human decency and sensitivity to another's pain}

It calls for emotional support, grieving with the person.

It does not call for a change in our Constitution.

What's your position on video that's been doctored by a "news" network in order to push a false narrative, and then defending that false narrative even after it's been widely exposed for the lie that it was?

You poor soul. My only suggestion is that you re-examine your ability to empathize.
And stop instructing others to "re-read your posts" - you are NOT our teacher.

I see. You think that people should simply read any phrase or part of a post and respond emotionally, stressing how much they "empathize." Forget logic and cogent thought.

Hey, there was a thread on "empathy" itself before.

Don't give the narrow minded any ideas. :D

The cat's out of the barn!

Well, the OWS street trash claim that the rapists, the foul-mouthed screamers of obscenities, the rock-throwers, the fire-bombers, the public defecators, the destroyers of property, and the flag-burners are all "plants" to discredit their wonderful movement.....

How are you feeling today Mishima?

Constipated. Crampy. Could be his "time of the month."
Of course, he will deny this - will call it a "left-winger tactic" used by marxists - but it is his truth. Alas, he's a grumpy old gasbag - or a big 'bag-o-gas..." to put it another way.

where does it say AR15's from walmart with no backround check? Does it also give you the right to drink and drive during your "pursuit of happiness"?

"The right to Keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
Simple.
And please stuff any BS about militias.

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

{His and anyone elses grief is not reason enough to strip me or any citizen of the right to gun ownership granted in the US constitution.}

You are right. Please read my post above.

{And please stuff any BS about militias.}

Good idea. Also, as you are no doubt aware, the Founders' intent in relation to militias was that the federal government could NOT disarm INDIVIDUALS in the process of disbanding militias. The right of INDIVIDUALS to own firearms was part of the intent with the militias, as well as individuals being able to protect themselves, of course.

You wrote to HOMBRE:

{Did you forget your medication?}

Why not respond to Hombre's statements? His concepts? His ideas?

Good man.

I know we don't have the greatest history on here Mishima, but I do respect you. Keep that in mind next time we have a major disagreement.

Thank you. Same here. You make my brain cells - few as they are - go to full capacity sometimes!

Nope calling you a hypocrite for being ok with banning others from owning what you claim to have right now just cause your shit will be grandfathered.

No mish, I don't like you or what you have to say, even when we agree.

{I don't like you or what you have to say, even when we agree.}

As a reasonable and mature ADULT, I find it preferrable to stick to content and concepts. But LEFT-WINGERS are different in that arena it appears.

You frame it in terms of "liking" or not liking another poster. This is the way of the LEFT, of course. I never posted to "make friends," but focused on the issue per se.

I came across an interesting short article today: "Re-branding Guevara: Che the Butcher."

The author thinks that branding this animal's photo taken by Alberto Korda in 1960 is akin to displaying one of Adolph Hitler, and I agree. He described how this blood-thirsty reprobate scumbag set up FORCED-LABOR camps for gays and Catholics. The most famous being LA CABANA FORTRESS prison. The animal supervised EXECUTIONS of many there.

To prove how filthy this low-life was, this craven POS murdered Eutrimion Guerra and wrote, "I ended the problem with a .32 caliber pistol, in the right side of his brain....His belongings were now mine."

Do you know that the scumbag attempted a terrorist plot to murder THOUSANDS of INNOCENT Americans in 1962?

It was a plot with 1,200 pounds of TNT to be set off in public areas of NYC, to murder women, children and any innocent who happened to be in department stores!

A question to you, very simple: Do you wish Che Guevara succeeded in his revolutionary plans? DO YOU?????????????

The Left's nescience concerning the First Amendment is appalling, frightening considering that they can vote.