Great question, Molli.
I'm not making any assumptions including assuming anyone may have reported this post to be removed last night. I certainly didn't report it to be removed; I was happy to see it reinstated, because I think a lot of the dialogue on this thread is important and bring things out in the open. As always, I'm for full disclosure.

No. But, the party to whom you refer is now on notice.

Hey sent you some thoughts about this issue, as much as I hate to PM people I think you have valid questions that I can answer.

Why not answer them publicly?

Rumours spread via PM are a very large part of the whole mess here.

You have already alluded on this thread to the reason being a lack of "support" (albeit not from lack of support from the "community"). So why not just say what's on your mind?

However, if the commenter who left has chosen not to state the reasons, there is no reason to indulge in behind-the-scenes speculation.

I attempted to do so below, but my comment got flagged and is now hidden.

You should see who's online right now.

One--- because what I need to say is none of your concerns.

Two--- when I made this page I let HH know I would post it, she set no rules I just left it up to her to state her reasons for departing if she chose to.

Three --any speculation that happened here happened by the community's choice---you don't get to dictate what other should or should not say.

Four---"Rumours spread via PM are a very large part of the whole mess here." how do you know what others share via PM is rumor? You do PM others here do you not? If so then I ask you why do you engage the rumor mill?

Lastly, forgive the observation but opened that door when you asked "You have already alluded on this thread to the reason being a lack of "support"...It was quite clear what I meant, I can't understand why someone who speaks English ( Brit ) has such a hard time understanding precise comments.

I saw your comment (in my e-mail notifications) and I don't understand why it was hidden.

Just look at who's online. That ought to answer your questions.

So this page has been getting flagged did you see who did it? and who is here voting comments down? come on vic spit it out.

Maybe we just define "precision" differently, Jack.
Two countries separated by a common language.

Jack -- I have noticed that you often state with great confidence that you know exactly who is flagging or downvoting stuff.

Could you please explain or provide a link to that feature?

I do realise that it is possible to see who votes things "up", who has "earned" themselves a special badge for frequent flagging, and what a member's ratio of comments to voting is... but this is a feature I would also like to know about. Where is it to be found?

"...any speculation that happened here happened by the community's choice-.."

Oh, so there was no insinuation whatsoever in the wording of your "article":

"Thanks for your excellent contributions to Current TV Kiwi---you have a permeant home on my site, free from Right-wing trolls."

Looks like your comment was probably gang-flagged.

I love the running with scissors monument.

I love you too trut----seriously I have nothing against you. I just diametrically oppose your views but it ain't personal.

Nothing to add I see. This post, I'm responding to, folks is typical of the problem.

You are aware of the site's new feature which allows users to see who's online and voting on threads, right? It has confirmed many suspicions, and you'd be surprised to know who's online right now.

I didn't get to see what Vic_Romano said in this instance but I tend to really like his comments. I never saw him trolling anyone.

Cool I have nothing to hide, pass it along to me I think there are some folks here with hundreds of attack socks maybe they can be banned before the new site is in place.

Disagree.
This kind of thread is typical of the problem.

Vic - Where is this feature, please? It sounds interesting.

I am not aware of this feature, but I have no doubt whatsoever that it is ... (searching for a word here)... intriguing.

As are you for taking part in it no? I'm just following your logic.

"...cool I have nothing to hide..."

"... hey sent you some thoughts about this issue, as much as I hate to PM people..."

Well?
Which is it?

As for the "sock" issue -- that is clearly stated in the TOS.
No exceptions, I hope.

And we will respond again. ;-)

Thanks pal.

A history of flag abuse? Now it seems to me yo've got your fingers in every flaghole you can find. You're talking to yourself bud, get over yourself.

I vote down when warranted I'm even more conservative in my flags. When I do it's to point out an abuse and I include as much info as I can. Today is one of the few times I used the email to make a complain, the last time I used it was a few weeks back when the site was out of whack.

I won't ask anymore as i know now they won't do it I have asked repeatedly the moderation to call out if that if I'm one of the ones abusing the flag system. Can you say you've done the same?

but jack there are always alternatives when that happens.

One should believe in what one posts and should also have the freedom to do so. It's those who disagree with a post or a comment and use their overbearing influence and clout to have individuals comments flagged or removed that we need to be concerned about. One mans freedom of thought is anothers hate speech. Peace.

So much to say from such a new account.

"...It's those who disagree with a post or a comment and use their overbearing influence and clout to have individuals comments flagged ..."

That's the the thing one individual will pass her/his judgement on all ( claiming moral superiority) and then cry bloody murder in order to gain the clout and influence you speak of, the flags then become automatic---powerful forces these sphere of influence. The answer no matter how many times I say is ignored---one should just roll over other people's comments who one disagrees or just don't like.

Sorry... I buttinski here... but I agree w/you. Like you say, 'One man's ceiling is
another man's floor', nyet? That song by Paul Simon from days long gone.

Wise and saged advice I am sure. Thanks.

Butinski anytime friend. Happy you agree but disagreement can be healthy and even fashionable as well. As long as mutual respect remains.

Thanks for your commentary I can see it was offered earnestly.

Good content of thought.

GREAT attitude Marsha!

Thanks foos.

I'm Christian by birth not by practice, I won't turn the other cheek. Let me be CLEAR on this, I don't egg anyone on, If I reply in a questionable manner be sure it's because of the two scenarios:

1. I was given reason to by someone trolling me first.
2. My sarcasm to low brow individuals appears as an attack.

But yes I delight in playing with them sometimes, how could I not when they ridiculous claims? What I do 90% of the time is ignore a post I disagree with, I just roll over it---I rather wait for an argument ( as in stated point of view ) that I can seek my teeth-in or take apart.

One thing to remember is that HH did not just leave over trolls there are other reasons.

I find it hard to believe there could be any other reason. She's extremely well-like and supported. I've thought about leaving myself more than a few times. In fact, every time a blog gets overrun with B.S. Troll noise covering whole pages. It does not take much to encourage them to keep spewing.

Support should not only come from the community---believe me I love that about current, I have been supported to my dismay many time by old time current members to whom I'm grateful. I hope you stick around but really you have been lucky not to have been trolled here.

What is your definition of good people? Deep breathing also helps.

Good people are those who care about others as much as they do themselves. They care about the environment, the children who can't get food because those who are able to make sure they have enough to eat, would rather put that money in their own pockets. They care about all the people whose saftynets are sysemmatically being taken away. They are open-minded and willing to listen to another point of view as long as it does not result in name calling and belittling.

"...Support should not only come from the community..."
If, by that, you mean it should also come from admin/mods, then yes, of course -- with a caveat:
Stick to the TOS.
For instance: one account per member. It's not difficult.
Anyway, it's a private site.
So they can decide which behaviours they support and which they don't.
No doubt you can appreciate that.

Nailed that one, Bailey. A "whole new breed of Bully...talking shit" about whoever they target for the day. It's hard to watch, and to tolerate this targeting, and I think she's just tired of it. The lurkers are among us - watching and downing. Kind of weak.

I love that song. But we really need to fight them with what annoys them the most, and that is just not answering.

YES! Exactly!

Des, we can't let them win, and leaving does that.

Des my AfroAmericanKiwi friend I respect and understand your decision. Although I can't understand why a certain Right -winger gets under people's skin, mediocrity is easy to dismiss. The site should be neutral with regards to posters.

Great points my friend(s)...I just wish they would police fools who are intentionally inflaming others with nonsense. Your points are well taken....like I said, I have actually learned to not even read some the fools comments anymore....I just delete when they come in.

Yes, we have an out of control media that does enough inflaming.

Until it's done I'll second your sentiment.

I hope you and others do not think that just because someone doesn't personally respond on a post that those people are not reading or don't care. I read Many posts on Current without responding but that doesn't mean that I didn't get anything from it or that I don't agree.

I just sent her a message saying the same thing. I'm praying she reconsiders.

When the trolls are the only ones responding and voting everyone down it gets a little much. It helps to look at how many views your post gets. It's nice to know that hundreds of people took a look. I mean, isn't that the whole point?
In 2010 I posted an original joke to Current (an exclusive) that had a quarter million hits. It's fun to go viral! Like winning the lottery.

Yes, and we must take the good with the bad.

Darn, buckeye, I can't get it to work for me. Do you have the link?

Why. yes I do!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=trhqdaxX1Vw#t=1s

Or... http://youtu.be/trhqdaxX1Vw

Or..."copy and paste" it. Current is stopping it from going through....?

Thanks, that worked great. Except it was annoying as hell to watch. Just what I want to see, more of the same sh@t we have to wade through right here.

LOL

The opposite of every time a bell wings an angel gets his wings...I wish she would stick it out but she already made the request.

Totally sucks!

I think she was getting tired, of getting her threads hijack.

It is exhausting, but I thought HH did fight the good fight well!

What do you mean "she already made the request?" How does that work? I thought when you want to go, you just close out.

I agree.