Thanks :D

please stop the good-bay's

That's a great suggestion, keith.
Unless a member's profile is completely removed, I won't believe that they're gone for good.
Sometimes, members just need a break during a transition; that's understandable.

Voted up! Thank you for referencing Heraclitus!

Way to Go Vic. Thumbs up!

lol ...

perfectly explained...

Absolutely!

"Life is the result of our choices..."

Very true. Too many "Progressives" claim it is society, some kind of "ism" (racism, sexism, capitalism, etc.), or the "other" (evil rich, Republicans, etc.).

Our present situation - friends, money, family, health - is a result of the choices we have made. It is amazing how many people refuse to accept the irrefutable fact.

{Pretend to be on my side but using my words to try to make me angry,}

Please do not make up stuff. I do not try to get on anyone's side. I leave those who are members of the "Liberal Borg" to do that. They want reassurance, votes, praise and encouragement. I take most posts in isolation, unless the person simply rambles on in every post with the same Socialist-Statist, mindless nonsense.

I took your words for what they meant. If they mean something else, let me know. If you think that the situation in which people find themselves is due to racism, evil capitalists, oppression, and society in general, let me know. It could lead to an interesting discussion.

Thanks.

Question mishima..

in your oppinion; what causes racism, evil capitalism, oppression, etc...?

"in your oppinion; what causes racism, evil capitalism, oppression, etc...?"

Each is differnent, and that is a broad question. Let me know if you are serious about such a request or simply playing some kind of game. Thanks.

It's thanks to the Al Jazeera reporters around the globe that has kept us informed of BOTH sides of a story, and actually the stories it presented were far more honest than the politically biased reporting we've gotten from US reporters, even "white house correspondents." AJ helped us syphon through the line of crap we've been handed for so many years. So I'm sticking it out. Regardless what creeps may come here and spew a bunch of faux noise, some of it so outrageously inaccurate that you'd have to be from another planet to believe any of it, the rule of thumb has always been to just ignore it. That does not mean that a difference of opinion can't exist, but to undermine what for me has been one of my greatest learning experiences, is to cut off my avenue of mind-expanding.

My point exactly. I ask the question to provoke thought. There is some truth in everything that everybody is saying but the fact of the matter is that we all need to stop playing the blame game.

Try reddit or a number of other sites. What you are talking about is an overly-gnawed bone thrown to half-dead starving dog. Not like how it used to be

"we all need to stop playing the blame game."

Yes, Left-wingers need to see that the individual is responsible for his own life, not the government, not the "evil rich," not the putative racists and sexists.

"I don't know what people are complaining about. Current is absolutely nothing like it was when it first started in 2005..."

Uhhhh...that IS their point. So many of the ones that have been here since the "grand opening" feel this is THEIR site and no one should rock the boat. Reminds me of one of those exclusive clubs you can only join through a sponsor who has taken the time and effort to screen "new members" prior to acceptance.

I wonder...could they be members of an organization that prohibits an "open door" policy like the Masons? Is that where they get the idea of filtering who can come here to share their own personal thoughts on a whole range of subjects that need discussing to make this nation a better place for all?

I wonder if those who profess to be progressive in their ideals aren't? After all, if one is a progressive at heart, wouldn't they be the first to accept change as a natural order of things?

Nothing remains static. Evolution cannot be stopped unless there's tremendous effort applied to devolution. And that seems to be the case with closed minded folks. They miss the "good old days" from the past. Just like it appears the GOP would love to drag us back into the stone age...or to at least prior to 1861.

But, when you get down to it, these naysayers are our fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, cousins, aunts, uncles, grandfathers and grandmothers.

We must be patient and understanding of their fears they have of entering into the future.

Because trying to deny there will be a future of changes is a fool's way of viewing the world and all who reside upon it.

do you have a point buried in there? The fact is Current started as a Citizen Journalism project where "the people" would report on the stuff overlooked by the media which going on around them all the time. Management changed and over time more emphasis was placed on their own professionally produced shows while drawing in other shows like Rotten Tomatoes and The Young Turks. Meanwhile user content faded to the point of nothingness. This was not a natural evolution of change by a long shot if that is what you are talking about.

oh dear god, please don't respond to me if you are just going to babble utter nonsense. I know you think you are being deep with this comparison of Current with the banks and the military but you're not. You just come off as a rambling nutter and Current is not that big of a deal in the long run or the short run.

"My suggestion to you is, "Get ready for change, 'cause it's a'comin'!"

But I have a feeling you won't head my warning."

Well, you certainly are off your head.

"I have been told your birthday is tomorrow.

Happy Tenth!

Now, go outside and play with your little friends and don't bother us adults."

What are you talking about? Seriously, dude, you make no sense even when you try to insult. Just please stop replying to me with your babbling nonsense.

seriously, what are you trying to accomplish here with your childish nonsensical responses? You do realize you are part of that group people are complaining about, right? Nothing you have said has any relationship to my original post. You just went on some long-winged rant about change and whatever else your drug addled mind could conjure up. I know you think you make sense but honestly you don't and when you sober up or come down off whatever you have been huffing, you will realize this.

On another note, if you are typical of remaining posters on this site I can see why people have been leaving

"seriously, what are you trying to accomplish here with your childish nonsensical responses?"

I'm just playing along with a child...like I did when my sons were young. I'd play games with them. Now, I'm having fun with you, young'un.

I'm a problem....you're a problem...we're ALL problems to someone.

Anything else you need to get off your chest?

Just let me know...

and rightwingers need to follow their own philosophy of individual responsibility and not try to get the government which they hate and want limited to legislate morality on people's personal life

True. (I know it is sarcasm.) But what you wrote is accurate. Morality should be in the arena of the community - social values and pressures, not legal action.

However, communities can inforce laws that help support moral behavior and punish degeneracy, such as zoning laws. In addition, individual states can have laws that protect the lives of unborn babies and preserve marriage.

But yes, if one simply looks at the Constitution, the branches of federal government has no business in legislating, enforcing or adjudicating morality, of course.

That is a temp issue. "On the basis of known reserves,
it is estimated that oil will run out by about 2050."
( http://www.sigmascan.org/Live/Issue/ViewIssue/491/4/after-the-oil-the-future-of-... )

That is a big thing when you think that we all need to be
running on something else!
No oil for lube for the engine, so this is bad.

I think that is why there is a push for new things, like digging for gas!
The oil running out in 2050, might be 2030, or something longer.
It depends what they did, did they pull out more oil to stabilize the world,
making the run out date 2030?

Anyway It's not about the oil it's the end date.
The End date has nothing to do with the big oil cartel of Qatar country!

"The reason why the liberal community is jumping over board is because Current is own by big oil cartel of Qatar country, and that goes against the green movement policy."

Interesting. I never really considered that. Very possible.

I remember when that happened.

You might be right. Problem is...I don't know who's from the Huffington Post and who's not.

v-. You're part of that crowd.

You and and your little buddies, food-fight with that character that originally came over from Huffington post as "David_H" and brought along his buddies.

Both of you guys' groups should go back to huffington post to politically food fight.

"v-. You're part of that crowd."

Are you referring to me?

Nothing unique, weird, or corky about Current when into turns into the cafeteria for the huffington post political section.

Why do you and the latest incarnation of "David_H" come here to fight?

(Yes, I downed you comment. That's what the V- means, voted down.)

See that? You just made his point for him -- try some diplomacy, or simply ignore what you disagree with instead of attacking.

Then why are we raising the White flag and abandoning our post ?

We're the quitters. That's worst than anything than you can ever call them ! ANYTHING.
So what do we do ? Go to someone else's site and do to them what you're saying the Huff Po immigrants did to this site ?

I'm not blaming anyone. I'm simply asking questions about why the regulars are jumping ship on raft boats and you're actually making him sound as is he's right. Dagum has been here for years and he was never known to be a troublemaker. Again,I'm just trying to find out why people are leaving. I don't know you from Adam.

but what I do know is that...a hit dog will always holler.

(_)_) zzzzzzzzzzz

"Dagum has been here for years and he was never known to be a troublemaker."

Well, maybe you can explain why he picked me out of the crowd to chuck his negative remarks towards.

Since all I can fathom his reasons are is that I've only been here since June, 2011.

My reply to his original comment was posted with respect and he felt the need to go on the attack because of that?

Oh well...

I think that you just proved his point. You didn't come here to join Current. By what you just said, you came here and tried to take over Current with your format from the Huffington Post.

I'm originally from HP. Thank you for bringing this up to bring this out in the open.
HP is a very clique-type environment. Very Face-Bookie and certain members can often be quite territorial protecting their HP turf; those same members will often trash HP, constantly. It's bizzare at best. Perhaps, just another part the on-going frustration of censorship overload at HP?
And, a lot of HP's problems (back then that you're referring to) were also due to very shoddy moderation issues; one of the biggest problems was that they allowed flash-mob gang activity to harass certain members.

That is incorrect, Dagum.
David H came to Current by himself. I remember it well because on his FIRST day here, he was immediately (ambushed) with accusations of being congoboy, Funky, and Political Amazon by another former banned Current member.

It's very hard to be a newbie on Current. Newbies often get attacked and get accused of being other individuals or having secondary accounts which is so unnecessary; it causes more friction on this site. Especially, when an innocent newbie gets banned, unjustly.
It also isn't fair for anyone who wants to join as a newbie on Current.

"you just said, you came here and tried to take over Current with your format from the Huffington Post."

I don't think he said that.

"Those that hold a grudge against HuffPo and all who frequent the site limit their information that's available to learn a thang or three, IMHO. They most likely don't like MSNBC, NBC, or any left-leaning site, for that matter."

I must agree, certainly seems the case.

There's no need to have a grudge against HP. HuffyPuffy with all of its excessive censorship is a joke. LOL

I made a correction on that post...I meant to say, "...and all who DO NOT frequent the site limit their information..."

OOOPS! When I reread my comment I realized it wasn't what I wanted it to convey.

+^d

No thanks, MSII. I do not watch Fox News.

"LMAO on that one...and a "keeper", too!"

Holy shit! Like the old man in Robo-Cop said " I'd buy THAT for a dollar!"

Is anyway I can get this poster?.....PLEASE?

" I'd buy THAT for a dollar!"

SOLD!!!!! LOL

+^d

...the old false-equivalency "argument" yes I know it well, we here are somehow equal and opposite to Faux Noise - bull$hit! They allow no discourse or disagreement from the reich-party-line at Faux Noise.

No idea! Sorry.

right-wing-wet-dream, maybe they can run next "cycle"! although the right-wingers would be droppin like flies from the "excitement" it would bring them - all those old-white-men getting much too worked-up for their aged-"hearts" to handle.

V's going to "save" your poster and print it out! He really likes that!

It's one of my favorites too. Really encapsulates the truth of Faux Noise the ministry-of-(DIS)-information for the reich-party. Could go into business selling them! I don't remember where I got it, so no idea if it belongs to anyone though...

Yep.

...or if anyone gives a sheet

Naa not really. Either you are a productive member of the community or like myself and so many others your just a Phucking Troll looking to poke folks with a dull stick. I'm just here now for the free coffee and the parking spot.

everything runs in cycles .

Hell, I go to Fixed Noise occasionally...just to see what and how the "enemy" is taking current news and twisting it into pretzels!

always know your enemy. First rule of war.

Keith Olbermann got K.O'd but before he did, he had his own show that really wasn't a part of this community. The community never bought into his act and that's partly why he got kicked off the team here. HE WASN'T A TEAM PLAYER. My only wish now, after listening to you, was that someone else would have given him a job so the parasites that followed here would have left with him. Keith Olbermann left his trash scattered all over the front lawn of Current.TV. I liked Keith but I never drank his Cool-aid. You shouldn't have either. Now I understand.

Dude, please stop grinding your teeth. I never have like the Huff Po format and no, I never have posted one comment on any of their blogs. NEVER. I occasionally blog on the USA Today site and that's it for me. I was never attracted to the Huffington Post.

What's my agenda ? I didn't know that I had to have one. I guess my agenda, where as you're concerned is to try staying away from people that have these huge chips on their shoulders.

Bill, I'm using a wide brush. I'm really just responding to you. I'm talking about you right now.

"Bill, I'm using a wide brush. I'm really just responding to you. I'm talking about you right now."

Ta Ta! La vie n'a jamais été meilleure! Je suis désolé pour tous les péons vous!

or a wish sandwich.

"I hear ya, Pal!"

Morning Bill!

"I hear ya, Pal!"

Notice how someone is showing me the love (voting me down) already this morning, and to think, V-day was yesterday! Ha,ha,ha