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Dagum
When I decided on a scientific career, one of the things that appealed to me about science was the modesty of its practitioners. The typical scientist seemed to be a person who knew one small corner of the natural world and knew it very well, better than most other human beings living and better even than most who had ever lived. But outside of their circumscribed areas of expertise, scientists would hesitate to express an authoritative opinion. This attitude was attractive precisely because it stood in sharp contrast to the arrogance of the philosophers of the positivist tradition, who claimed for science and its practitioners a broad authority with which many practicing scientists themselves were uncomfortable.

The temptation to overreach, however, seems increasingly indulged today in discussions about science. Both in the work of professional philosophers and in popular writings by natural scientists, it is frequently claimed that natural science does or soon will constitute the entire domain of truth. And this attitude is becoming more widespread among scientists themselves. All too many of my contemporaries in science have accepted without question the hype that suggests that an advanced degree in some area of natural science confers the ability to pontificate wisely on any and all subjects.

Of course, from the very beginning of the modern scientific enterprise, there have been scientists and philosophers who have been so impressed with the ability of the natural sciences to advance knowledge that they have asserted that these sciences are the only valid way of seeking knowledge in any field. A forthright expression of this viewpoint has been made by the chemist Peter Atkins, who in his 1995 essay “Science as Truth” asserts the “universal competence” of science. This position has been called scientism — a term that was originally intended to be pejorative but has been claimed as a badge of honor by some of its most vocal proponents. In their 2007 book Every Thing Must Go: Metaphysics Naturalized, for example, philosophers James Ladyman, Don Ross, and David Spurrett go so far as to entitle a chapter “In Defense of Scientism.”

Modern science is often described as having emerged from philosophy; many of the early modern scientists were engaged in what they called “natural philosophy.” Later, philosophy came to be seen as an activity distinct from but integral to natural science, with each addressing separate but complementary questions — supporting, correcting, and supplying knowledge to one another. But the status of philosophy has fallen quite a bit in recent times. Central to scientism is the grabbing of nearly the entire territory of what were once considered questions that properly belong to philosophy. Scientism takes science to be not only better than philosophy at answering such questions, but the only means of answering them. For most of those who dabble in scientism, this shift is unacknowledged, and may not even be recognized. But for others, it is explicit. Atkins, for example, is scathing in his dismissal of the entire field: “I consider it to be a defensible proposition that no philosopher has helped to elucidate nature; philosophy is but the refinement of hindrance.”

Is scientism defensible? Is it really true that natural science provides a satisfying and reasonably complete account of everything we see, experience, and seek to understand — of every phenomenon in the universe? And is it true that science is more capable, even singularly capable, of answering the questions that once were addressed by philosophy? This subject is too large to tackle all at once. But by looking briefly at the modern understandings of science and philosophy on which scientism rests, and examining a few case studies of the attempt to supplant philosophy entirely with science, we might get a sense of how the reach of scientism exceeds its grasp.
The Abdication of the Philosophers

If philosophy is regarded as a legitimate and necessary discipline, then one might think that a certain degree of philosophical training would be very useful to a scientist. Scientists ought to be able to recognize how often philosophical issues arise in their work — that is, issues that cannot be resolved by arguments that make recourse solely to inference and empirical observation. In most cases, these issues arise because practicing scientists, like all people, are prone to philosophical errors. To take an obvious example, scientists can be prone to errors of elementary logic, and these can often go undetected by the peer review process and have a major impact on the literature — for instance, confusing correlation and causation, or confusing implication with a biconditional. Philosophy can provide a way of understanding and correcting such errors. It addresses a largely distinct set of questions that natural science alone cannot answer, but that must be answered for natural science to be properly conducted.

These questions include how we define and understand science itself. One group of theories of science — the set that best supports a clear distinction between science and philosophy, and a necessary role for each — can broadly be classified as “essentialist.” These theories attempt to identify the essential traits that distinguish science from other human activities, or differentiate true science from nonscientific and pseudoscientific forms of inquiry. Among the most influential and compelling of these is Karl Popper’s criterion of falsifiability outlined in The Logic of Scientific Discovery (1959).

A falsifiable theory is one that makes a specific prediction about what results are supposed to occur under a set of experimental conditions, so that the theory might be falsified by performing the experiment and comparing predicted to actual results. A theory or explanation that cannot be falsified falls outside the domain of science. For example, Freudian psychoanalysis, which does not make specific experimental predictions, is able to revise its theory to match any observations, in order to avoid rejecting the theory altogether. By this reckoning, Freudianism is a pseudoscience, a theory that purports to be scientific but is in fact immune to falsification. In contrast, for example, Einstein’s theory of relativity made predictions (like the bending of starlight around the sun) that were novel and specific, and provided opportunities to disprove the theory by direct experimental observation. Advocates of Popper’s definition would seem to place on the same level as pseudoscience or nonscience every statement — of metaphysics, ethics, theology, literary criticism, and indeed daily life — that does not meet the criterion of falsifiability.

The criterion of falsifiability is appealing in that it highlights similarities between science and the trial-and-error methods we use in everyday problem-solving. If I have misplaced my keys, I immediately begin to construct scenarios — hypotheses, if you will — that might account for their whereabouts: Did I leave them in the ignition or in the front door lock? Were they in the pocket of the jeans I put in the laundry basket? Did I drop them while mowing the lawn? I then proceed to evaluate these scenarios systematically, by testing predictions that I would expect to be true under each scenario — in other words, by using a sort of Popperian method. The everyday, commonsense nature of the falsifiability criterion has the virtue of both showing how science is grounded in basic ideas of rationality and observation, and thereby also of stripping away from science the aura of sacred mystery with which some would seek to surround it....


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42 comments // The Folly of Scientism

  • mitekillem
    • +2
      mitekillem  
    • I think this article presents a valid argument that I agree with.
      Science is slowly becoming an authority, much in the way the church or magicians were to kings many years ago. If you don't know something, ask an expert.

      I find more often than naught if I make an intelligent observation, and it opposes what scientists believe, then suddenly my credentials come into question. People will say "well, you wouldn't know, because you're not a scientist" or because I don't hold a PHD, in a specific field.
      It's exactly this kind of lazy thinking that puts us in danger and at risk.
      I have good enough sense to follow most scientific and medical journals without requiring a dictionary. -And so should everyone else.

      When we start to hold scientists in a place where they are above reproach, above failures/faults, above corruption, mistakes, etc, then we put ourselves at risk by accepting false information - because of our inability to discover the same conclusions on our own, or to verify their work.

      Scientists are human. They're not sorcerers that can only be validated by other sorcerers, and no one else.

      Just as Economists shouldn't be the only ones who understand the economy and stock markets. Just as Bankers shouldn't be the only ones who understand complex banking transactions.

      People have to get away from deifying Scientists and their work, and then refuting or punishing others when they come up with evidence which either makes the previous work obsolete, or refutes their work as being incorrect.
      Science is never settled. It is always learning.

    • 1 month ago
  • Me3zzeyi
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      Me3zzeyi  
    • mitekillem:

      good post -reminds of that experiment where people were told to shock others, and they were more compliant to do so when the person telling them so was wearing a lab coat.

    • 1 month ago
  • hombre76
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      hombre76  
    • Warning to all posters on this page and site. there is a group of gestapo running around Temporarily hiding any comments that dare disagree with their agenda. Do not let them bully you into submission! They are scared little children with nothing better to do than try and bait people into confrontations with personal attacks and then remove those personal attacks while flagging any response whether in retaliation for the personal attacks which only serves to get said poster banned or by temporarily blocking anything posted by their target there by essentially blocking that person from participating in the discussion with the temp removal exploit. It is a petty and pathetic attempt at censorship and should not be tolerated by the community or the moderators at this site. I encourage everyone who reads this and or experiences this silencing to report it to the moderators and please pass this information on to others on the page in which it happens as I have here. Together we can overcome these bullies on the right and left and return this site to the discussion board of modern issues and not the partisan hack site like Hufpo or Alex Jones others would see it become.

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      Here is a reprint of what I have already posted and had censored through the abused Temp hidden feature available right now on Current if enough Nazis flag your post.

      "So now I finaly get the coward game being played on Current. Make a personal attack on a poster and when they respond in kind remove your personal attack post and flag the poster who responds. Its clever for a spinless self important bunch of little Hitlers. I will make sure to keep an eye out for this trap from now on."

    • 1 month ago
  • MolliBlum
  • hombre76
  • MolliBlum
  • TanzaniteDiamonds
  • hombre76
  • MolliBlum
  • TanzaniteDiamonds
  • hombre76
  • matka
  • matka
  • YourTaxes_MyPaycheck
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      YourTaxes_MyPaycheck  
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    • There are many scientific statements in the Bible about the "circle of the earth", the ocean surface a circle, and the Heavens being like stretched fabric and tent cloth. They were authored hundreds of years prior to Jesus' birth.

      Plus the apostle Paul mentioned matter too small to see? Yep. Paul knew atomic matter our eyes were unable to see?

      What else can't we see? Energy? How about Beings made of Energy then? We can't see them either because our eyes were not made to see Energy. If we were to see Energy we would be blind as bats, just as was told us in the 1960's Ray Milland movie: The Man with the X-Ray Eyes.

      We couldn't see Jesus if he was standing right beside us nor angels if they were flying over top us and completely blocked out the Sun. They're in a dimensional state we cannot see everywhere they go unless they decide to MATERIALIZE IN OUR STARTLED FACES.

      Prepare to be startled soon.

    • 1 month ago
  • ThirdSection
  • matka
  • YourTaxes_MyPaycheck
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      YourTaxes_MyPaycheck  
    • ThirdSection:

      In that case Modern Physics needs to know something rather important => Matter is Stored Energy.

      And I like being a "spectacle" because I'm right & they're stupid.

      I used that photo because I knew it would draw people to read my warning. Worked on you eh Matka? It will work on everybody.

    • 1 month ago
  • matka
  • matka
  • Me3zzeyi
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      Me3zzeyi  
    • Excellent post Dagum, i've been trying to point out that flaws and consequences of scientism for a while now on this website. Scientism becomes a real problem when its smuggles itself into identity politics.

    • 1 month ago
  • matka
  • matka
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      matka  
    • What about 'Scientology' ?

      Ron L. Hubbard

      "By 1952, Hubbard had moved past thinking of Dianetics as simply a
      self-help religion.

      in his research, he had discovered that pre-Clears were demonstrating
      chains of painful moments thta preceded their current lifetime.

      Infact, they go back many lifetimes, indicating the possibility of past
      lives, which naturally, opened the door to the realm of the spirt.

      This led RLH to another discovery; that man existed in three parts -
      the body, the mind, and the spirit. He called the spirit the 'Thetan.'

      It was immortal, and it was also the most important of the three parts.

      Without it, there would be no body or mind. A Thetan wasn't a thing,
      but rather the creator of things and the animator of the body.

      The was the computer, the body was the vessel for the Thetan, and the
      Thetan was the life force.

      THUS, SCIENTOLOGY WAS BORN.

    • 1 month ago
  • WalmartRamen
  • matka
    • +2
      matka  
    • WalmartRamen:

      I know that Walt, I was always wonderin' wot the Scientology bit was about,
      whatt w./all the so-called 'thoughtful' celebs belonging to this weirdness.

      I had heard of Hubbard in the 60's, when I was in high school and browsed
      briefly thru a book of his - -
      it was the self-help era, but Ron didn't appeal to me nor his approach to the
      subject was confusing and boring to me.

      Thanks for this post though - helps show what a dippity con the guy actually
      wuz............
      had to have been another money based, greed-ridden, illushionistic
      convincings of his mind that he had these layered thought prococesses,
      that I'm surprised he didn't run for President, and maybe he did....

      But well-a-day, nuff' said on this nutcracker. The 'sweet' taste of success
      is rather rancid for him now. Or did he croak and go the way of infintistimal
      clusters of souls?

      I wonder what HIS epitaph would be?

      I was Ron Hubbard
      Came outta the cupboard
      With this mockery of religion,
      Thousands liked it,
      Took to sinnin'.

      Was fun while it lasted,
      Now I'm blasted.

      HAHAHAHAHAHAH !

    • 1 month ago
  • Dagum
    • +2
      Dagum  
    • matka:

      "Scientism" and "Scientology" have much in common, they are religious beliefs in the sense that they both believe they have a universal monopoly on truth.

      That being said, this is an article on Scientism and Philosophy, try not to fall off the thread.

    • 1 month ago
  • matka
    • +1
      matka  
    • Buckeye_Bill:

      I know this. I had always wondered about dis Scientology and Ron L. Hubbard.
      This information was around when I wuz in high school in the 60's - I checked it
      out, but found it boring, so went on to other studies and personal researching.

      Decades later, I quite impromptu stumbled across a book entitled, Beyond Belief:
      My Secret Life Inside Scientology and My Harrowing Escape; Jenna Miscavige
      who was the daughter of David Miscavige.

      This book was just published in 2013 by Harper-Colllins, so has the most up-to-
      date info.

      I'm still working on finishin' it, but it's a very captivating read.

      Thanks anyway, for what it's worth, for a background explanation.

    • 1 month ago
  • matka
    • +3
      matka  
    • Buckeye_Bill:

      P.S. I must say that yer submittal was REALLY a dern good, true, and phew,

      'I-couldn't- have-said-better' ... pleeze dohn come down on me with
      anti-matka Prozac Nation fist-shakin' in me face, shout it out.

      I say this with all sincerity..... honest to anus ! LOL

    • 1 month ago
  • Milieu
    • +2
      Milieu  
    • " National Review columnist Jonah Goldberg described The New Atlantis as "a new and interesting magazine" that "seems to be trying to carve out the space for the government to stop the more offensive aspects of biotechnology."

      jonah Goldberg. JONAH GOLDBERG? JONAH GOLDBERG!!!?

      The journal has particularly gained a reputation among the transhumanist movement for its criticism of human enhancement. James Hughes, a techno-progressivist and at times director of organizations such as the World Transhumanist Association and the Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies, notes that the journal "has published influential attacks on artificial intelligence, nanotechnology, biotechnology, reproductive technology, and life extension." Natasha Vita-More has described it as a "journal known as a ring of bioconservatives bent on opposing the cyberculture," while the Extropy Institute has called it "a high-powered rallying point for the neo-Luddites."[64

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Atlantis_%28journal%29

    • 1 month ago
  • Dagum
    • +1
      Dagum  
    • Milieu:

      I am surprised this post would trigger you? A innocuous article on the realm of philosophy and science and where they mesh and mash, and yet you seem to have gotten defensive over it, so much so you tried to attack the credibility of the article by citing Wikipedia. Intriguing...

    • 1 month ago
  • Me3zzeyi
  • matka
  • matka
    • +1
      matka  
    • Dagum:

      Wikipedia........hmm...must remember....must remember this exchange between

      u and Mileau, mon ami. Call in Tallyrand...where is he? No trigger to tigger to

      'men-yow' !

    • 1 month ago
  • Milieu
    • +1
      Milieu  
    • Dagum:

      Wiki is generally where I start out simply because it has links to real articles in real journals or those lead to real articles in real journals.

      But I repeat: Jonah Goldberg.

      Read down through the list of references at wiki and read some of those articles or presentations by Goldberg. Even if you don't actually read them, (I read 65-70% of them) you'll see that his Major Patrons are the Brothers Koch.

      Then you read his articles and they tie in quite well with Charlie Koch's "The Science of Success" which is nothing but economic Darwinism with a mask on. But then if I, like the Brothers Koch, was raised a Bircher and worth Hundreds of Millions of dollars as a teenager I might have a sick and sociopathic view of the world too.

      btw, if you wandered into my personal library, you would see the political/economic runs the gamut from Bill Buckley, Barry Goldwater, and Dinesh D'Souza to Michael Harrington, Michel Foucault. I read everything I can get my hands on from both sides (Crap, I even waded through Charlie Koch's book.)

    • 1 month ago
  • Dagum
    • +2
      Dagum  
    • Milieu:

      Hair trigger? An obscure, irrelevant, third party's opinion on something triggers all that, an extreme tangent? Focus on the subject matter. This is an article about Scientism and Philosophy which is an interesting discussion. Don't let extraneity trigger you into thread jacking territory.

    • 1 month ago
  • thedirtman
    • +3
      thedirtman  
    • Science is a bit like a jigsaw puzzle. We only have a few of the pieces. However, when the pieces fit it isn't hard to tell. I don't know philosophy and I will never pretend.

    • 1 month ago
  • WalmartRamen
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • ThirdSection
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +7
      Buckeye_Bill  
    • ThirdSection:

      I visit YouTube to watch videos of Carl Sagan...just to get a good dose of intelligent "conversation" occasionally. It helps me to deal with all the insanity that abounds in politics and religion that inflicts Mankind.

      +^d

      }B^)

    • 1 month ago
  • WalmartRamen
  • matka
  • matka
    • +2
      matka  
    • Buckeye_Bill:

      Fantasy of sitting w/Carl Sagan smokin', tokin' 747. He be man after my own heart if
      he smokes cannabis sativa. pfft......ah yes, kick back.

      Think less than one dimensional.

      And reflecting on, as u say, some of the insanity that afflicts mantype.

    • 1 month ago
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