Entertainment | January 24, 2012 | 22 comments

Tim Thomas White House Snub Stirs Outrage and Support

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When the Boston Bruins travelled to Washington on Monday to visit with President Barack Obama, the team was missing goaltender Tim Thomas. Thomas refused to attend the ceremony honoring the 2011 Stanley Cup champions because he does not support the current administration. The Tim Thomas White House snub has stirred up outrage from some NHL fans who think should not have put his personal feelings above his team. Others, however, feel the Boston Bruins player was justified in expressing his personal feelings by bowing out of the event.
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22 comments // Tim Thomas White House Snub Stirs Outrage and Support

  • davjam
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      davjam  
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    • Tim Thomas had four stints playing in the Finnish professional Hockey League. He saw clean streets, no poor people, and enjoyed wonderful health care. These are a few of many of the qualities of life that we enjoy in Finland. Some Americans, like me, come to Finland and marvel at the way that humans beings care for each other. Other's don't. I feel sorry for Tim that he couldn't understand that our taxes are higher than Mitt's but we know that the money is being invested in children and care for the elderly. My Children are almost adults. My wife and I, although fully employed, have received more benefits than we have paid. Now that the kids are old it is our turn to pay. The US is 29th in terms of debt compared with Finland at 53. (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2186rank.h...) Tim should be complaining about the cost of war, instead of what he perceives as wasteful government spending.

    • 4 months ago
  • grammabet
  • RevKen
  • Truthitswhatsfordinner
  • RevKen
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      RevKen  
    • Truthitswhatsfordinner:

      It is a waste of time and money. If we are going to cut spending we should begin with waste and this is nothing more than window dressing. The President has more important things to do than hang out with a bunch of grown children that whine and cry when they do not get their way.

    • 4 months ago
  • ahiguy
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • Oh, God forbid we abandon the "team" and think for ourselves. Good for him for speaking the truth. Afterall politicians use these events to up their "cred" all the time by doing these events. Why do teams who win "cups" get to visit the White House anyway? There are frankly people in this country who do much greater things who are never acknowledged.

    • 4 months ago
  • fiberbundle
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      fiberbundle  
    • JanforGore:

      One use of sporting events is to bring a respite of unity among politically squabbling factions at least in one shared human endeavor. The ancient and modern Olympics are an example. You don't think the Spartans and the Athenians had some political differences, but at the Games, for the moment they were all Greeks.

      The team visit to honor the team's achievement in the sport was of that nature. But Tim decided to spoil it and interject political squabbling. I therefore nominate him for "The Rovie" in recognition of finding a way to use sport to increase political divisiveness in our country. Congratulations Tim.

    • 4 months ago
  • JohnA
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      JohnA  
    • Ouch, he'll pay for that, disparaging the mighty Obama. He must have been under the assumption we are a free society, how naive of him.

    • 4 months ago
  • fiberbundle
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      fiberbundle  
    • When the Boston Bruins (A TEAM) travelled to Washington on Monday to visit with President Barack Obama, the team was missing goaltender Tim Thomas.

      "This was not about politics or party, as in my opinion both parties are responsible for the situation we are in as a country. This was about a choice I had to make as an INDIVIDUAL."

      Immature whiney baby. The team should fine him; not for his beliefs---but for embarrassing the team on a national stage and needlessly injecting the politics of division on the fan base directly affecting the way the Bruins earn their living.

      Being on a sports team is like being a soldier---you don't drop the ball to espouse your individual political philosophy. And he did embarrass the TEAM not just himself.

    • 4 months ago
  • cantucwearebrothers
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    • fiberbundle:

      I don't understand this cease to be an individual theory. Regardless of what my profession, race, gender, religion, economic, military status is...I will always be an individual with thoughts and opinions that are my own.

      I find no reason why the team should feel embarrassed.

    • 4 months ago
  • fiberbundle
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      fiberbundle  
    • cantucwearebrothers:

      This was a team event which was an inappropriate platform for insertion of an individual political statement. Why does he get to use a team event to push his individual agenda. I don't get to do that; you don't get to do that. He just stole the spotlight for his individual agenda from his team mates. He spoiled and overshadowed their honor.

      No one's taking away his right to his opinion or to express it in an appropriate venue.

    • 4 months ago
  • cantucwearebrothers
  • fiberbundle
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      fiberbundle  
    • cantucwearebrothers:

      He leveraged the event for his own selfish purposes. That's the criteria that I used to form my opinion of the inappropriateness of the venue. Had he called a press conference on a different day and said I have an announcement to make,"I Think government is bad". No one would have come or he would have been laughed off the stage. So he cheated. He hijacked the event for his personal use. Now you've got your opinion and I've got mine. But why don't you get a little more specific than "Who gets to determine the appropriate venue?" My opinion of variations of the who sets the standards argument;and what do you mean by meaning; etc is that it is intellectually lazy.

    • 4 months ago
  • cantucwearebrothers
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    • fiberbundle:

      A couple of things...

      A) His purposes don't seem that selfish to me.

      B) Opting not to attend and posting a statement on his Facebook page doesn't amount to 'leveraging an event'.

      Who gets to determine the appropriateness of the venue is not an intellectually lazy question. What you find appropriate and what I find appropriate are clearly two different things and therefore legitimizes the question. At the end of the day the person taking the stand gets to make the decision. It's perfectly fine if you do not support them, but don't be confused that there are several of us who do. Many who think it's time to break the cycle of apathy and actually take a stand, have a voice and create forward motion based on action.

      So while you say it's inappropriate I say it's about damn time.

    • 4 months ago
  • fiberbundle
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      fiberbundle  
    • cantucwearebrothers:

      B) Opting not to attend and posting a statement on his Facebook page doesn't amount to 'leveraging an event'.

      The Tim Thomas White House snub has stirred up outrage from some NHL fans who think should not have put his personal feelings above his team.

      I'm not saying he was smart and thought it all the way through. Maybe you will grant that his actions did have unintended consequences. His actions and those consequences reflected back on the team. So I'm criticizing his actions; I'm not on the apologist or encouraging side of this argument. Just like I wouldn't be rooting for the Captain of the Costa Concordia, even though I'm sure he didn't intend to capsize the ship through his ill considered actions.

    • 4 months ago
  • cantucwearebrothers
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      cantucwearebrothers  
    • fiberbundle:

      "He chose not to come,” Bruins general manager Peter Chiarelli said." "I can require someone to attend a team event. If they don’t, I can suspend him.” Chiarelli told the Boston Globe. “I’m not suspending Tim. Whatever his position is, it isn’t reflective of the Boston Bruins nor my own."

      I don't know that his team is upset with him nor do I think that would be a reason for him to not act as he did. Fans are entitled to their own opinion and often become upset with anybody for any reason. Their loyalty can be fleeting and shouldn't determine someone's behavior.

      I'm unsure if he thought it through or not. Perhaps, as some have said, he gave up a golden opportunity to speak with the president up close and personal. All things aside he should be applauded for standing behind something that he believes in.

    • 4 months ago
  • fiberbundle
  • cantucwearebrothers
  • fiberbundle
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      fiberbundle  
    • cantucwearebrothers:

      I really don't care if Tim Thomas is a spoil sport and a no show.

      But how about these two assholes not attending the state of the union address?

      Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas rarely attend State of the Union addresses. Scalia last year in a speech to the Federalist Society called the annual gathering on Capitol Hill “a juvenile spectacle. And I resent being called upon to the indignity.” Thomas has said the event has become too “partisan” and he finds it uncomfortable as a judge to sit there. Scalia appeared yesterday before the House Tea Party Caucus to discuss how to write constitutional legislation. The talk was hosted by Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-Minn.).

    • 4 months ago
  • cantucwearebrothers
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      cantucwearebrothers  
    • Such drama added to this whole situation. Abandoned his team...seriously? God forbid we each take a stand for what we individually believe in. He's bringing attention to something that matters to him in a manner that he is able. Each of us should be doing the same.

      This is what he posted on his facebook page:

      I believe the Federal government has grown out of control, threatening the Rights, Liberties, and Property of the People.
      This is being done at the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial level. This is in direct opposition to the Constitution and the Founding Fathers vision for the Federal government.
      Because I believe this, today I exercised my right as a Free Citizen, and did not visit the White House. This was not about politics or party, as in my opinion both parties are responsible for the situation we are in as a country. This was about a choice I had to make as an INDIVIDUAL.
      This is the only public statement I will be making on this topic.

    • 4 months ago
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